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When the police pull you over.....

CharlieandLola Avatar
7y, 10m agoPosted 7 years, 10 months ago
Do they actually have to have a reason? Just curious as my brother in law purchased a Subaru Impreza last week and although he's fairly young at 24, he's now been pulled over 3 times in the space of a week, and two of them happened on the same day ! He's not been speeding, driving stupidly or anything like that, so I was just wondering if the police are supposed to have a reason to stop someone or if they can just pull people over because it's a youngish man in a fast car.
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7y, 10m agoPosted 7 years, 10 months ago
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banned#1
They can stop and search anyone if they have a reasonable suspicion about them. A young person driving a powerful car is suspicious as insurance premiums are huge on those cars. Better safe than sorry.
#2
It's almost a standing joke it happens so often that a young man in a new car gets pulled over.

Seems to me, cops are always looking to catch someone out instead of actually stopping real crimes from happening and helping the people who need it.

I wonder if you put in a complaint if it'll just make them do it all the more, just to take the mick.
#3
What if the man happened to be black?
#4
like has been mentioned, the Police only need 'reasonable suspicion', so effectively they can pull you over for everything and anything.
#5
lumoruk
They can stop and search anyone if they have a reasonable suspicion about them. A young person driving a powerful car is suspicious as insurance premiums are huge on those cars. Better safe than sorry.



That makes me fel old now - I've also got one and not been stopped once, therefore I must look ancient :-D


Thanks everyone for your opinions. I wasn't too sure, but it does seem to be common. He's already thinking about selling it because the last time they stopped him, it made him late picking up his little girl from school and he had to call his mum to do it, and he said he can't be done with the hassle. Maybe I should tell him to get a flat cap and draw a 'tash on or something.... :-D
#6
If he is clean - they'll soon start ignoring him - being used to him and his car!
#7
Double edged sword this, you could go to the local Police Station and let them know (not nastily) just as a ' Look this is my motor I have been stopped several times, here is proof its me etc etc.'

Problem is when some 24 year old yobo chav nicks his motor and the police don't stop him, he'll be the first to shout about it.

Its always been the case, Young guys in nice cars get stopped, no biggie, chances are the regular traffic guys will get used to him and it will become a joke, but in my opinion I would rather have them stopping my car just in case the wrong driver is behind the wheel one day.

Lighten up they are just doing their jobs
#8
Charlie&Lola
That makes me fel old now - I've also got one and not been stopped once, therefore I must look ancient :-D


Thanks everyone for your opinions. I wasn't too sure, but it does seem to be common. He's already thinking about selling it because the last time they stopped him, it made him late picking up his little girl from school and he had to call his mum to do it, and he said he can't be done with the hassle. Maybe I should tell him to get a flat cap and draw a 'tash on or something.... :-D


How awful for him! I'd be really loathe to give up my personal choices because of police harrassment though.Wonder what he could do about it, if anything. Perhaps contact his local MP? Explain the situation and ask him/her to write a letter to the local force.
#9
My friend was in the same position, 23 (looks younger) new nice car, he was pulled over 4 times in 5 days, what bothered him was 3 of the times was by the same policeman!

So, he went to the ppolice station to present his insurance / reg doucuments and asked to speak to the duty seargent ( or whoever was in charge ) and made an enquirie about why this was happening, he didnt get a real answer so he asked what was the procedure for a complaint about harrasement.

As soon as he said the magic words " complaint" and "harrassment" the seargent (or whoever he was) asked him to leave the issue with him before taking it further.

Guess what, he has not been pulled over since - thats now almost 3 months ago!
#10
i remember just a few weeks ago i was stopped and asked how @ 25 (didnt think that was that young lol) i could afford to own the car i did, didnt give me any reason for pulling me over and followed me from where i live if remember rightly :-D

lumoruk;4495477
They can stop and search anyone if they have a reasonable suspicion about them. A young person driving a powerful car is suspicious as insurance premiums are huge on those cars. Better safe than sorry.
#11
Celticsun
Double edged sword this, you could go to the local Police Station and let them know (not nastily) just as a ' Look this is my motor I have been stopped several times, here is proof its me etc etc.'

Problem is when some 24 year old yobo chav nicks his motor and the police don't stop him, he'll be the first to shout about it.

Its always been the case, Young guys in nice cars get stopped, no biggie, chances are the regular traffic guys will get used to him and it will become a joke, but in my opinion I would rather have them stopping my car just in case the wrong driver is behind the wheel one day.

Lighten up they are just doing their jobs


Good point!
banned#12
ClarityofMind
How awful for him! I'd be really loathe to give up my personal choices because of police harrassment though.Wonder what he could do about it, if anything. Perhaps contact his local MP? Explain the situation and ask him/her to write a letter to the local force.


Ever done bullying and harassment course at work? you go speak to the individual first in this case it would be the police before you go bothering their boss :thumbsup:
#13
Thing is, the police service has been subjected to bean counters along with most other professions these days. They know that if they stop someone with a car then the checks they run might uncover a different misdemeanour. The probability must work for them or they would do something different.
This then shows that they are clearing up X number of crimes. Much quicker to get probably 20 motoring offences than to bring an assault charge to fruition.
Says a lot about out society though that we have allowed this to happen.
#14
I was under the impression that every traffic stop had to be logged, called in, and then subsequent paperwork to be filed... As if they are gonna stop some oink in his flash car just so they can fill out paperwork.

The other thing is 9/10 young lads in flash cars do drive like class 1 Nobs, so yeah stop them before they kill someone
#15
Celticsun

Lighten up they are just doing their jobs


Err, there's nothing to lighten up about, as stated I was simply curious as to whether they were supposed to have a reason because the last time could have left a little girl stranded at school until they'd finished checking his details out if his mum wasn't available. It's not like I was jumping up and down saying it's outragous, is it.
#16
Celticsun
Double edged sword this, you could go to the local Police Station and let them know (not nastily) just as a ' Look this is my motor I have been stopped several times, here is proof its me etc etc.'

Problem is when some 24 year old yobo chav nicks his motor and the police don't stop him, he'll be the first to shout about it.

Its always been the case, Young guys in nice cars get stopped, no biggie, chances are the regular traffic guys will get used to him and it will become a joke, but in my opinion I would rather have them stopping my car just in case the wrong driver is behind the wheel one day.

Lighten up they are just doing their jobs


I think the police do a really important job and when they repeatedly do it wrong like this it's really bad for relationships with the general public and engenders disrespect.

Also, if I made this many mistakes in my work, it wouldn't be acceptable by my clients. The police are public servants. They're our clients. They shouldn't be allowed to function on the basis of stereotypical prejudices in the attempt to seek out more "crimes".
#17
It may just be that the car is showing as no registered owner - owing to the fact it has just changed hands!
#18
Abvance
What if the man happened to be black?


then he's obviously a drug dealer....... no sterotypes here :thumbsup:
#19
WoolyM
Thing is, the police service has been subjected to bean counters along with most other professions these days. They know that if they stop someone with a car then the checks they run might uncover a different misdemeanour. The probability must work for them or they would do something different.
This then shows that they are clearing up X number of crimes. Much quicker to get probably 20 motoring offences than to bring an assault charge to fruition.
Says a lot about out society though that we have allowed this to happen.


Precisely :thumbsup:
#20
A lot of the time its a power trip for the police,
#21
Charlie&Lola
Err, there's nothing to lighten up about, as stated I was simply curious as to whether they were supposed to have a reason because the last time could have left a little girl stranded at school until they'd finished checking his details out if his mum wasn't available. It's not like I was jumping up and down saying it's outragous, is it.


Relax, I wasn't talking about you it was other people jumping to 'Write to your MP Etc' lol



ClarityofMind
I think the police do a really important job and when they repeatedly do it wrong like this it's really bad for relationships with the general public and engenders disrespect.




I wouldn't say they were repeatedly doing wrong, I think the Police get a raw deal a lot of the time, you shouldn't believe everything the Tabloids print you know :roll:


ifyoudontask?
A lot of the time its a power trip for the police,


Oh come on, Your local B&Q parking warden is on a power trip, or the guy down the local shopping centre in his ill fitting uniform chasing kids on heelys. Theres a little more to it than that.
#22
Celticsun
I was under the impression that every traffic stop had to be logged, called in, and then subsequent paperwork to be filed... As if they are gonna stop some oink in his flash car just so they can fill out paperwork.

The other thing is 9/10 young lads in flash cars do drive like class 1 Nobs, so yeah stop them before they kill someone


That is true - a stop form should always be filled out.

I used to have to file the damn things - and wow - it must be boring filling them out - just to check someone out.

I'm sure - generally police have much better things to do with their time... and if one cop keeps stopping the same car - he either really likes the car or has an issue with the driver!
#23
MinstrelMan
then he's obviously a drug dealer....... no sterotypes here :thumbsup:
:giggle:


Thanks for the suggestions everyone - I'll pass on to him that if it keeps happening, to take all his papers down to the station and ask them to log down it's him and if they can stop pulling him over.

No, being stopped isn't the end of the world and it's a pain in the bum at most for the majority of people, but his big concern, and rightly so, is that if they stop him on the way to pick his little girl up again, is she going to be left there stranded until they've finished checking him out as his mum's not always there to be able to collect her in emergencies. but hopefully they'll stop pulling him over or handing in his documents will sort it all out. cheers people :thumbsup:
#24
ifyoudontask?
A lot of the time its a power trip for the police,





Oh come on, Your local B&Q parking warden is on a power trip, or the guy down the local shopping centre in his ill fitting uniform chasing kids on heelys. Theres a little more to it than that.


Does that mean im wrong?
#25
My brother used to get pulled over all the time once the excuse they gave him was 'aggressive accelleration' so to me that means they can make up their own offences :S...he started to record all the times with his phone (used the voice recorder to record what they were saying, being sarcastic about his private number plate while they were checking it etc) then went to the police station on his own terms with the recordings and said how annoying it was (keeping calm!!!) ...he hasnt been stopped since!
#26
Butterflies
That is true - a stop form should always be filled out.

I used to have to file the damn things - and wow - it must be boring filling them out - just to check someone out.

I'm sure - generally police have much better things to do with their time... and if one cop keeps stopping the same car - he either really likes the car or has an issue with the driver!



Joking apart, a lot of the Traffic guys DO like some of the cars they stop thats why they went into traffic.. the best you can get is swapping your vauxhaull for a scoob in joining an Interceptor divison so the guys generally have an interest in fast cars and this can build up to a great rapport with the local uniforms, and I have always said better to be on side than not.
#27
Celticsun








I wouldn't say they were repeatedly doing wrong, I think the Police get a raw deal a lot of the time, you shouldn't believe everything the Tabloids print you know :roll:


I don't base my opinions on unsubstantiated tabloid accusations. Jumping to conclusions, no?
#28
Celticsun
I think the Police get a raw deal a lot of the time, you shouldn't believe everything the Tabloids print you know :roll:


I agree, I think the Police do get a raw deal a lot of the time, but a lot of that isn't directly down to them. I've had neighbours jumping up and down because they couldn't come out to an attempted break in straight away when it turns out that all officers in the area were already out because of a little lad being hit by a bus, not that they really cared about that, it was still 'but someone tried to get in my back door at some point during last night'

If I obviously didn't look so old and was considered worth repeatedly pulling over in my car, I'd probably have the same issues, not that I was being pulled over, but panicing about my kids getting picked up on time. Where I live, I actually think increased police presence would be a good thing.
#29
I haven't read the responses, so apologies for repitition.

They are doing their job, by checking. It's not exactly common for a young male (I'm 21 for your info) to have a nice car of their own, so they are ensuring it isn't stolen etc. Clearly more commonplace in England with the high volumes of chavs and [retards]"gangstazzz"[/retards] milling about, so there is more of a chance of it being nicked.

Just tell him to take it with a pinch of salt, and be glad he's getting the recognition and attention he's after (be it from the wrong people) with his new motor.

Again I've lost my concentration mid discussion... Meh.

*edit* Just buy a Micra. Awesome car.
#30
my brother likes his fast cars! hes had a subaru and he now has an s type jag when bought it had a private reg which made him get stopped all the time but he'd get the quiestions like, is this car yours? how can a lad of your age afford a car like this cos I can't !
well he touched lucky with a really well paid job and has no kids so he can afford to I think if they want to pull you over they will but should ask if the cars yours and ither normal qs but why make the stupid comments cos they're green with envy that you have a better car than them if your fully legit! he was also stopped three times in one nite himself which they gave comments that they pulled him over cos they thought he was a drug dealer a burglar and somthing else stupid and that was when he was in a golf estate!!!
#31
I was 19 and had a black mini with all the trimmings (not chav trims, just chrome etc) I was pulled over all the time, at one time I had 3 producer docs pinned up on my board to take in lol. They dont have to have a reason at all. And if you make a comment, it makes them dig harder for things to get you on. If they pull you over, the best thing I have found is to get out, and meet them at the car. most of the time they will just see you are cool and let you on your way!! You can call the police and put a harassment complaint in, they will investigate then!
#32
ClarityofMind
I don't base my opinions on unsubstantiated tabloid accusations. Jumping to conclusions, no?


Whoa, that was a collective "you" not YOU shouldn't, but irrelevant now as you added to the post I was quoting thus adding more weight to your point :)
#33
My brothers were always getting pulled over when they were younger but not so much now.

There was a huge debate in Bristol and I remember going to a meeting with Avon & Som police about it.

It was mainly young officers though and one was actually an old school mate of one of my brothers, he felt a tad embarassed to say the least
#34
Celticsun
Whoa, that was a collective "you" not YOU shouldn't, but irrelevant now as you added to the post I was quoting thus adding more weight to your point :)


I edited my post as I created it.

You quoted my words and then used a collective "you"? Misleading the communication if it wasn't meant specifically to me. Especially straight after "Relax, I wasn't talking about you it was other people jumping to 'Write to your MP Etc' " a twist on something I suggested.

Anyway, I hope the car isn't stopped again.
#35
Its all down to his choice of car, I used to have a RS Cosworth, and was pulled in that frequently, I got exactly the same treatment when bought an evo VIII, now I have a Subaru forester STI, basically an impreza in a more sensible cop friendly body and I dont get pulled :thumbsup:

Always be nice and pleasant however arsey the cops get, as long as your all legal you will soon be on your way.
#36
They do need a reason but they just make any old reason up same as the old stop and search they needed a reason ok you look drunk or a theft as happened and you fit the description its all a load of balls the old bill are bent.
#37
I've had an impreza STi for over a year and have never been pulled over yet when I drove an old 1990 3 series BMW I got pulled over quite a few times. Admittedly my impreza is about 12 years old, obviously not expensive enough lol. Hopefully I will get the same treatment when the time comes to invest in a dodge viper :)
#38
I used to get pulled over all the time, but I soon learnt to keep my bound and gagged victims out of sight in the boot, and not on the back seat. :)
#39
thesaint
I used to get pulled over all the time, but I soon learnt to keep my bound and gagged victims out of sight in the boot, and not on the back seat. :)


As it should be too :thumbsup:
#40
Could always leave that bit earlier to pick up the girl.

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