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While opening my Birthday cards this morning........updated:-D

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I get a parking fine!! I'm really annoyed.....I went to Tesco on bank holiday Monday to find not a single carparkin space so I parked on a double yellow! Wrong I know, but I have 2 small children …
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7y, 9m agoPosted 7 years, 9 months ago
I get a parking fine!!

I'm really annoyed.....I went to Tesco on bank holiday Monday to find not a single carparkin space so I parked on a double yellow! Wrong I know, but I have 2 small children and live half an hour away so didn;t wanna turn round and come back later! Anyways, I get a ticket saying details will follow in post. I went in and complained and the GM agreed they should have been leanient being bank holiday. So I filled out an appeal form which he also made comments on. This morning (my brithday, may I add lol) I get a £70 fine:(
Not a very nice gift hey?? :cry:
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7y, 9m agoPosted 7 years, 9 months ago
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1 Like #1
http://www.pepipoo.com/

Was it from a private company or a traffic warden?
#2
here we go again.....
#3
Happy Birthday btw
#4
If its from a private firm then ignore it...they cant do anything.....

if its from the Council Parking Wardens then pay up before the price doubles...:thumbsup:
#5
jtx
http://www.pepipoo.com/

Was it from a private company or a traffic warden?

Private I think:? Thanks for that, will take a look:thumbsup:

casparwhite
here we go again.....

Wot........?? :p

jtx
Happy Birthday btw

lol, Thanks :thumbsup:
StevenA2000_uk
If its from a private firm then ignore it...they cant do anything.....

if its from the Council Parking Wardens then pay up before the price doubles...:


Really?? Is that true??
The company is UK Parking Control limited:?
#6
Told you being 30 was s**t!:p







Ps just joking:) x
#7
tut tut...again :p
#8
GAVINLEWISHUKD
Told you being 30 was s**t!:p







Ps just joking:) x

LMAO.....I'm beginning to believe u:p

dontdothatagain
tut tut...again :p


:shock: Wot u mean.....again???
#9
StevenA2000_uk
If its from a private firm then ignore it...they cant do anything.....

if its from the Council Parking Wardens then pay up before the price doubles...:thumbsup:


Well I presume they are working on behalf of the council or if it's a private road then the land owner (if it was a purpose built road for the supermarket then probably Tesco)
#10
hannah19790
The company is UK Parking Control limited:?


LOL H.....they are a private company, I bet you got an offical looking letter as well?....I got one of these in December last year when I parked in a disabled space in a retail car park at Argos.

Have a read here H...http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/parking-traffic-offences/63235-ukpc-parking-fine.html

I basically ignored them, and I have heard nothing from them in almost 6 months. They are not legally enforceable tickets. The ticket represents a civil request for monies by a company that you have no contract with and therefore not legally obligated to pay.

They may even show a picture of your car committing the "offence".....its all an effort to make it look as official as possible. Ignore it.
#11
starsparkle2311
tut tut begging for happy birthday wishes again, jees, and to think I kept mine so quiet!!!!!

27th of May btw!!!!:-D


I had no need...........already done for me:p

GAVINLEWISHUKD
Well I presume they are working on behalf of the council or if it's a private road then the land owner (if it was a purpose built road for the supermarket then probably Tesco)

Yh for Tesco I think:thumbsup:

StevenA2000_uk
LOL H.....they are a private company, I bet you got an offical looking letter as well?....I got one of these in December last year when I parked in a disabled space in a retail car park at Argos.

Have a read here H...http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/parking-traffic-offences/63235-ukpc-parking-fine.html

I basically ignored them, and I have heard nothing from them in almost 6 months. They are not legally enforceable tickets. The ticket represents a civil request for monies by a company that you have no contract with and therefore not legally obligated to pay.

They may even show a picture of your car committing the "offence".....its all an effort to make it look as official as possible. Ignore it.


Oooh really??? Hope so, thieving B******* will take a look at ur link then:thumbsup: Thanks hun x;-)
1 Like #12
StevenA2000_uk;5393933
LOL H.....they are a private company, I bet you got an offical looking letter as well?....I got one of these in December last year when I parked in a disabled space in a retail car park at Argos. Have a read here H...http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/parking-traffic-offences/63235-ukpc-parking-fine.html I basically ignored them, and I have heard nothing from them in almost 6 months. They are not legally enforceable tickets. The ticket represents a civil request for monies by a company that you have no contract with and therefore not legally obligated to pay. They may even show a picture of your car committing the "offence".....its all an effort to make it look as official as possible. Ignore it.


So pleased you got away with it.

I hope you also get away with ever NEEDING to use a disabled car space
#13
If its private property...tesco or not...then its not legally enforceable under the Traffic Management Act 2004, and therefore there is a civil matter between the said private company and the individual they are "ticketing". The private company UKPC would have to pursue H in a civil court, prob small claims court in which they would incur costs in bringing the case against her and also have to provide clear evidence that the money was "owed" to them. As the company do not own the land then they will have a very difficult task of doing so...and it would take up a considerable amount of time and effort for it.

These companies rely on being paid by people who believe them to be official, thats where they make their money. :thumbsup:
#14
hannah19790



Yh for Tesco I think:thumbsup:





So you went in to Tesco and they said they should have been more lenient yet they employ them to put tickets on your car!
Well fighting things is a hard battle so maybe go see the tesco boss and see if as a gesture of good will he'll give you £70 worth of Tesco vouchers so you wont be out of pocket and retaining them a good customer. Worth a shot.:thumbsup:
#15
iglimpse
So pleased you got away with it.

I hope you also get away with ever NEEDING to use a disabled car space


Cheers, but i treat everyone equally. I'm all for equality, even with disabled folks :thumbsup:

and yes, knowing the law helps me a lot actually. Especially when company's try to shaft people. Thanks.
#16
GAVINLEWISHUKD;5394031
So you went in to Tesco and they said they should have been more lenient yet they employ them to put tickets on your car!
Well fighting things is a hard battle so maybe go see the tesco boss and see if as a gesture of good will he'll give you £70 worth of Tesco vouchers so you wont be out of pocket and retaining them a good customer. Worth a shot.:thumbsup:



Thats what i'd do then still feed the letter through the shredder:whistling::-D
#17
StevenA2000_uk
If its private property...tesco or not...then its not legally enforceable under the Traffic Management Act 2004, and therefore there is a civil matter between the said private company and the individual they are "ticketing". The private company UKPC would have to pursue H in a civil court, prob small claims court in which they would incur costs in bringing the case against her and also have to provide clear evidence that the money was "owed" to them. As the company do not own the land then they will have a very difficult task of doing so...and it would take up a considerable amount of time and effort for it.

These companies rely of being paid by people who believe them to be official, thats where they make their money. :thumbsup:


Well yes they will incur them costs, but also the time and effort for you is a cost to you. Well first H was there and she did park on the double yellow lines and they are employed on behalf of the land owner (Tesco) to enforce it. So apart from trying to p*ss them off I'm not sure there is much point?
#18
iglimpse
So pleased you got away with it.

I hope you also get away with ever NEEDING to use a disabled car space


Please don't start a row on here, I'm just askin for some help:thumbsup:

StevenA2000_uk
If its private property...tesco or not...then its not legally enforceable under the Traffic Management Act 2004, and therefore there is a civil matter between the said private company and the individual they are "ticketing". The private company UKPC would have to pursue H in a civil court, prob small claims court in which they would incur costs in bringing the case against her and also have to provide clear evidence that the money was "owed" to them. As the company do not own the land then they will have a very difficult task of doing so...and it would take up a considerable amount of time and effort for it.

These companies rely of being paid by people who believe them to be official, thats where they make their money. :thumbsup:


Thanks hun, that's really interesting...will defo look into it then:thumbsup:

GAVINLEWISHUKD
So you went in to Tesco and they said they should have been more lenient yet they employ them to put tickets on your car!
Well fighting things is a hard battle so maybe go see the tesco boss and see if as a gesture of good will he'll give you £70 worth of Tesco vouchers so you wont be out of pocket and retaining them a good customer. Worth a shot.:thumbsup:



Yh, although I said £70 it's knocked down to £40 if I pay within 14 days

Hey hey, that's a good idea.....might try that if it don't go to plan:-D
#19
harlzter
Thats what i'd do then still feed the letter through the shredder:whistling::-D


lol, an even better idea:w00t:

GAVINLEWISHUKD
Well yes they will incur them costs, but also the time and effort for you is a cost to you. Well first H was there and she did park on the double yellow lines and they are employed on behalf of the land owner (Tesco) to enforce it. So apart from trying to p*ss them off I'm not sure there is much point?



Think I'm gonna have to do some reading up......not tonight tho lol, it is my birthday after all :w00t:
#20
GAVINLEWISHUKD
Well yes they will incur them costs, but also the time and effort for you is a cost to you. Well first H was there and she did park on the double yellow lines and they are employed on behalf of the land owner (Tesco) to enforce it. So apart from trying to p*ss them off I'm not sure there is much point?


Thats what they rely on, and all I'd say to them is good luck in court. UKPC have a contract with Tesco, not Hannah. They are issuing a "ticket" saying that H now owes them money...for what exactly? If its not under the Traffic Management Act then its a civil matter....and UKPC must prove that Hannah had a legally binding contract in order to successfully get that money from her. I dont believe Hannah signed anything when she parked there, the fact that it was a double yellow line means nothing unless it was put there by the council and is a public road, neither of which is the case.

Edit : and trust when I say that Tesco will in no way pursue a customer in this manner. In fact they will take nothing negatively to do with it at all. They will leave it to UKPC to deal with as that is what they pay them for.
#21
StevenA2000_uk
Thats what they rely on, and all I'd say to them is good luck in court. UKPC have a contract with Tesco, not Hannah. They are issuing a "ticket" saying that H now owes them money...for what exactly? If its not under the Traffic Management Act then its a civil matter....and UKPC must prove that Hannah had a legally binding contract in order to successfully get that money from her. I dont believe Hannah signed anything when she parked there, the fact that it was a double yellow line means nothing unless it was put there by the council and is a public road, neither of which is the case.

Edit : and trust when I say that Tesco will in no way pursue a customer in this manner. In fact they will take nothing negatively to do with it at all. They will leave it to UKPC to deal with as that is what they pay them for.


I think you missed the point a little unless you are stating that Tesco have used the double yellow lines without registering them with the highways agency and council which I be amazed if true. If it is indeed a true private road then it must have signs clearly stating so. It is most likely a privately paid for road which has public access (not hard to find out) thus road traffic regulations are executable by whoever is governed to do so, be it the a private company, the council or the police.
#22
GAVINLEWISHUKD
I think you missed the point a little unless you are stating that Tesco have used the double yellow lines without registering them with the highways agency and council which I be amazed if true. If it is indeed a true private road then it must have signs clearly stating so. It is most likely a privately paid for road which has public access (not hard to find out) thus road traffic regulations are executable by whoever is governed to do so, be it the a private company, the council or the police.


They dont need to register them. Its private property, thats the difference. More than welcome to seek legal advice which I would always advise if in doubt. I'm not in any doubt as I;ve already been through it. :thumbsup:
#23
I'm not intending to start a row.

Just want to ask why you would feel proud of parking in a disabled space.
#24
iglimpse
I'm not intending to start a row.

Just want to ask why you would feel proud of parking in a disabled space.


It has nothing to do with being proud or not dude, get over it. Its private property, its a parking space, thats all. nothing more, nothing less.
#25
StevenA2000_uk
They dont need to register them. Its private property, thats the difference. More than welcome to seek legal advice which I would always advise if in doubt. I'm not in any doubt as I;ve already been through it. :thumbsup:


What, yes they do. So your defense is the yellow lines are not legal thus not enforceable! So as there were no parking signs the ticket is not enforceable!
Well on your method as none of it is enforceable then Asda(or whoever) would be better off just parking a truck in the middle of the road to stop loads of business and it would only cost them a few pounds!
It will be a privately owned public highway. If hannah had parked across the middle of the road then the police would have been called and a private company would have towed her car.

Ps If your in Scotland which you maybe it maybe different but I'm not sure.
#26
GAVINLEWISHUKD
What, yes they do. So your defense is the yellow lines are not legal thus not enforceable! So as there were no parking signs the ticket is not enforceable!
Well on your method as none of it is enforceable then Asda(or whoever) would be better off just parking a truck in the middle of the road to stop loads of business and it would only cost them a few pounds!
It will be a privately owned public highway. If hannah had parked across the middle of the road then the police would have been called and a private company would have towed her car.


Not going to argue. Read the forums, ask any solicitor. :thumbsup:
#27
iglimpse;5394398
I'm not intending to start a row.

Just want to ask why you would feel proud of parking in a disabled space.


it was double yellows:p:p:p:p
#28
if it is an 'unadopted' road which means it is not a road for the public in the councils eyes - also classified as a 'private' road belonging to someone else then so long as they put up notices they can 'fine' you for parking on it they do not need yellow lines just proof that they have informed you of illegal parking - if it is the same sort of road with yellow lines and no signage about fines etc - then you can park there and they cannot do anything about it
#29
harlzter;5394425
it was double yellows:p:p:p:p


OP was double yellows but Steven was parked in a disabled space. But he is very clever and knows big stuff so he is OK:whistling:
#30
Oh dear......didn;t mean to cause arguments guys.......really really appreciate ur help, might just give it to hubby to sort out:lol:
#31
iglimpse
OP was double yellows but Steven was parked in a disabled space. But he is very clever and knows big stuff so he is OK:whistling:


Yep, knowledge is power as they say :thumbsup:
1 Like #32
StevenA2000_uk;5394470
Yep, knowledge is power as they say :thumbsup:


They also say a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Your right though, Tesco won't chase it, but If the company who 'controls' the carparking at that tesco are contracted to pursue and maintain then they could pursue the claim in a civil manner.

PS I think anyone who parks in a disabled space is selfish (Mod Edit) and deserves a fine, if I see anyone parking in one who looks pefectly able and doesn't display a badge... I quite clearly walk past them and say "Must be a mental disability then!"
#33
Celticsun;5395779
They also say a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Your right though, Tesco won't chase it, but If the company who 'controls' the carparking at that tesco are contracted to pursue and maintain then they could pursue the claim in a civil manner.

PS I think anyone who parks in a disabled space is selfish and deserves a fine, if I see anyone parking in one who looks pefectly able and doesn't display a badge... I quite clearly walk past them and say "Must be a mental disability then!"


hahaha gotta love the antagonism :thumbsup:
#34
Just to let u know, I went into the store the other day and spoke to the manager and he said he'd sort it for me......how sweet :-D I have received a letter saying it has been cancelled:-D
1 Like #35
For he's a jolly good fellow for he's a jolly good feeelow and so am I:w00t::w00t:
#36
starsparkle2311
tut tut begging for happy birthday wishes again, jees, and to think I kept mine so quiet!!!!!

27th of May btw!!!!:-D


Repped lol
2 Likes #37
hannah19790
Just to let u know, I went into the store the other day and spoke to the manager and he said he'd sort it for me......how sweet :-D I have received a letter saying it has been cancelled:-D


yay, thats fantastic sweetie, I am so pleased for you x x
#38
renown
For he's a jolly good fellow for he's a jolly good feeelow and so am I:w00t::w00t:


:lol: lol, and that u r hun;-)
ClarityofMind
yay, thats fantastic sweetie, I am so pleased for you x x


Thanks hun, yh I'm well chuffed:-D
#39
hannah19790
:lol: lol, and that u r hun;-)


Thanks hun, yh I'm well chuffed:-D


a nice birthday pressie after all :)
#40
ClarityofMind
a nice birthday pressie after all :)


yh, spose it was really.....a gift from Mr Tesco:-D

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