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White Minority In Birmingham by 2027

boydent999 Avatar
9y, 4m agoPosted 9 years, 4 months ago
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/08/31/nbrum131.xml Daily Telegraph reports that Birmingham will have a "white minority" by 2027. I wonder what the full implications will be of that......:?
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9y, 4m agoPosted 9 years, 4 months ago
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#1
Not many implications really, dont really see to many people wanting a break away state or anything. Will just be an increase in cultural things such as shops, holidays, religious events etc.
banned#2
Will it take as long as that:giggle:
#3
There are already changes. Do you remember when at primary school, the pictorials on the wall, A is for Apple, B is for Bicycle etc? Well P is no longer allowed to be for Pig, cos it insults Muslims, although if you ask some of them, aside from the Politically Correct member's they'd say it doesn't. It's like the change from black-board to white-board.

You cannot say there will not be many implications. Here's one, how long before road signs will be in non-English?
banned#4
I moved to Olton a few years ago for a year. Lovely place, predominately a white area. Even though the schools children were a white majority, all classrooms had whiteboards and all muslim and other festivals were taught and celebrated and christmas plays had to be based around Father Christmas, elves and fairies etc. And anything to do with the bible was excluded.

This is where it sooooo wrong. If children are expected to learn about other cultures, then it should work both ways.

Over ten years ago I lived in Bordesley Green for a few months with relatives, even then, white people were a minority.

I have friends of all cultures and faiths but as with other countries, people should respect our countries religions and these should come first and foremost.

They shouldn't try to change our country.
banned#5
By the way I am an Essex girl not a Brummie so can give a different prospective.
#6
Prissymiss

I have friends of all cultures and faiths but as with other countries, people should respect our countries religions and these should come first and foremost.

They shouldn't try to change our country.


This is exactly how i feel, i am all for a mult cultural britain but dead against the way the PC brigade are changing our festivals just incase they offend a handfull of visitors.

I dont think its the fault of the people coming over here, its the damn PC gone mad
#7
Titchimp
This is exactly how i feel, i am all for a mult cultural britain but dead against the way the PC brigade are changing our festivals just incase they offend a handfull of visitors.

I dont think its the fault of the people coming over here, its the damn PC gone mad



totally agree.

As an asian myself i used to enjoy the christmas plays when i was at school.

It makes me cringe when i hear on the news that they will ban xmas plays :x

I feel that people may blame me :-(
banned#8
sko1984
totally agree.

As an asian myself i used to enjoy the christmas plays when i was at school.

It makes me cringe when i hear on the news that they will ban xmas plays :x

I feel that people may blame me :-(


Most asain people I know feel the same. It creates more problems for them.

It is a minority of foreign people in this country that oppose us celebrating our beliefs.

If they don't like our culture, then they are free to leave. It's as simple as that.
#9
It doesn't take a genius to work out whats going on, Immigrants are taking over the UK, Their kids then have kids, So its basically one huge "multi cultural society", Where every one has to be Politically correct.

To quote a comedian sadly no longer with us :

Q: Whats black with a few white spots?

Ans : Birmingham


And that was all them years ago, Its just getting worse and worse.

Plus a lot of the British people are emigrating elsewhere!
#10
I've travelled to and from Birmingham since I was young, the race difference is popular visiting there that often. I still go every 4 - 9 weeks now, and its crazy how much its changed. White people will be the minority in less years to come than that, guarenteed =/

But our government is too soft, our ways shouldn't have to change for the way other people live there lives when moving to this country, that goes for black, white, american, australian, canadian or alien.
#11
boydent999
Here's one, how long before road signs will be in non-English?


Thats already happening in a lot of places English is a second language, The same as Polish food in supermarkets etc.

Slough is one place thats particularly bad for immigrants, Some days you're lucky to see a white face, I went there on a couple of occasions because a friend lived there, They soon moved to the area we lived in because it was so much nicer..............then!

Where I used to live used to be a nice quite village were everyone knew everybody!, Now the character has been taken away, It now consists of mainly flats and by the day is getting fuller and fuller of immigrants. :roll:
#12
Iom-RF
Thats already happening in a lot of places English is a second language, The same as Polish food in supermarkets etc.

Slough is one place thats particularly bad for immigrants, Some days you're lucky to see a white face,


Foleshill Road, Coventry. :)
banned#13
Only one way for it, Vote BNP - Getting britain back by burning immigrants!
#14
JDeal
Only one way for it, Vote BNP - Getting britain back by burning immigrants!


Lol, thats pretty much how it'd be. I'm not racist, I can be at times, I'll admit that. But I don't thinks its right or fair, on how we should change our ways to satisfy people who come from abroad. It'd be different if we went over there...
#15
JDeal
Only one way for it, Vote BNP - Getting britain back by burning immigrants!


Well i'm forever being called a racist for going against the grain, Because I don't what Immigrants in the UK.

If anything the very people who are calling me a racist have caused me to have this opinion, Because instead of the immigrants actually trying to fit into (what was) a nice British society, They try and change it to suit them and their religion.

And the BNP will never win a place in the election because all the immigrants will vote for someone else and the immigrants outnumber the true British people in a lot of places.
#16
Iom-RF
Well i'm forever being called a racist for going against the grain, Because I don't what Immigrants in the UK.

If anything the very people who are calling me a racist have caused me to have this opinion, Because instead of the immigrants actually trying to fit into (what was) a nice British society, They try and change it to suit them and their religion.

And the BNP will never win a place in the election because all the immigrants will vote for someone else and the immigrants outnumber the true British people in a lot of places.


An opinion I agree with, and one of the reasons I get called racist.
#17
heres a little point my history teacher said last year about immigrants:

He said that what people forget when they complain about immigrants "wrecking our society" is that two of the strongest countries that ever existed(USA and Britain- it's massive empire) were formed out of a wide range of races and nationalities.

he kind of has a point, i would also like to add that in real life this teacher is a complete ****
#18
By any chance was your teacher not actually British?
#19
he was manx. :giggle:
#20
stratomaster
he was manx. :giggle:


You're joking!! :o
#21
No! Honest, he always went on rants about different things.

We were studying Nazi Germany you see, so everything could be linked back to modern day britain i.e Homophobic beliefs, racism, propoganda (he hated blaire)
#22
stratomaster
(he hated blaire)

well hes not in the minority there
#23
jamesterror
Lol, thats pretty much how it'd be. I'm not racist, I can be at times, I'll admit that. But I don't thinks its right or fair, on how we should change our ways to satisfy people who come from abroad. It'd be different if we went over there...


British empire comes to mind:whistling:


By 1921, the British Empire held sway over a population of about 458 million people, approximately one-quarter of the world's population. It covered about 36.6 million km² (14.2 million square miles), about a quarter of Earth's total land area. As a result, British influence remains strong throughout the world, such as in economic practice, legal and governmental systems, militarily, in society, sports (such as cricket, rugby and football), educational systems, and the English language itself
#24
Iom-RF
immigrants outnumber the true British people in a lot of places.


A question what would you class as true British? I am keen to understand how you define this.

Also the person whos History teacher said that was correct, the people of this country come mainly from invading empires over the years, thats why there are definitions such as Anglo-Saxon.
#25
hotdealing
A question what would you class as true British? I am keen to understand how you define this.


Someones who was born in the UK, Their parents born in the UK, Their parents born in the UK, Then their parents born in the uk etc.
[helper]#26
Iom-RF
Someones who was born in the UK, Their parents born in the UK, Their parents born in the UK, Then their parents born in the uk etc.

I think you could be on sticky ground here Iom - I mean aren't the Manx all descendent from vikings intent on pillage and rape..... must keep you busy :giggle:

I mean if you go back far enough aren't we all descendent from the same female? (lucy - very popular with the men so I believe)
#27
most of us are from german descent anyway.
my children are eurasian, my wife is asian and you may call her an immigrant she has intergrated really well.
i am a world person i love this world and have travelled and worked in many countries.
So i don't blame others for coming over here.
i did it in the past.
Our son has just had his passport renewed and at the office i was wishing passports were a thing of the past(i know it's not feasible)

i just wish we could go round this planet freely and without prejudice
#28
A question what would you class as true British? I am keen to understand how you define this

i would say someone who lives by british culture and the british way of life
#29
Iom-RF
Someones who was born in the UK, Their parents born in the UK, Their parents born in the UK, Then their parents born in the uk etc.



Well that to me seems ignorant, my parents were not born here yet I was and have lived here all my life. I class myself and family as British, as do our passports.

We work, pay tax, what would a person who has generations of roots here do that makes them more British than myself?
#30
jasonrat
i would say someone who lives by british culture and the british way of life


This makes more sense to me, yet again what is British culture? I live by the laws of the land and like british life. Yet my culture is not British and I would not wish it to be so. I come from a background that has its own rich heritage and culture and I like to live by that.

I do find it a shame that everything is so PC, I do like Xmas the plays and find it a shame that everything is becoming taboo. Why can't a person wear a cross or turban or whatever to denote their faith.

On a side note when I was at school we were taught about all of the cultures and religions including Christianity so it seems odd that some schools as people say are stopping this.
#31
if you don't feel british then i guess you're not
ok you have a british passport and use britishness for bureaucratic means

take the scots for example
The are true scottish and the majority i would say, say they are scottish not british.

My wife again would never say she was british because she wouldn't feel right.
all though she lives the british way of life.
if she did then it would be taking her culture away
#32
I never said that I didn't feel British, sorry if I gave the wrong impression. I do feel I am. I was merely trying to say couldn't I be British and still remain in touch with my culture that is not British? I whole heartedly engage in the good old beer drinking!!!

Also to find out how people define Britishness and what makes one person more British in their eyes than another. So when you mentioned British culture I was curious as to what you think that is.
#33
Iom-RF
It doesn't take a genius to work out whats going on, Immigrants are taking over the UK, Their kids then have kids, So its basically one huge "multi cultural society", Where every one has to be Politically correct.

To quote a comedian sadly no longer with us :



And that was all them years ago, Its just getting worse and worse.

Plus a lot of the British people are emigrating elsewhere!



Your not wrong there Iom, i have a friend imigrating to australia in January and another friend in June to Canada.
Britain isnt britain anymore.
#34
well its changed over the lst 50 years but i guess it's enjoying our traditions
like mothers day pancake day guy fawlkes etc ec.
respecting our laws
eating etiquette and expectations of visiting other houses
knowing what to epect if u visit a church weddings funerals etc etc
banned#35
Me and my "British" mates are all going to live in Canada soon:-D
#36
pcnutta
Your not wrong there Iom, i have a friend imigrating to australia in January and another friend in June to Canada.
Britain isnt britain anymore.


correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that hypocritical? :?

to complain about immigration but then to become one?
#37
pcnutta
Your not wrong there Iom, i have a friend imigrating to australia in January and another friend in June to Canada.
Britain isnt britain anymore.

people have been emigrating for years.

i think as you get older you just wise up and your feelings and ideas change.

things could be said for australia and canada.
i know for a fact australia has a huge asian population so you are not getting rid of it or running away.

the main problem is the political correctness of it all.

like other posters have said asians africans etc are not offended by our cultures, its just the pc brigade have noting better to do

john howard has the right idea
if you don't like the austrlian culture or way of life traditions etc etc
dont come here
banned#38
Most people are not racist, just fed up of letting go of our own country.
#39
i personaly not happy about people coming from other countries and being allowed to work its putting people like me and my friends out of work..

my friend is a labourer and was put out of work 6 weeks ago, he was earning aroung £70 per day but the company hired a load of polish workers for £40 per day who were not as skilled as my friend more and more pressure was put on my friend at work so he asked for a raise and he was told no when asked why he was told for his wages they could get 2 polish workers so there was no way he left and now cannot find work

At my place of work we have many different nationalites indian, english polish, bulgarian
whenever an english or indian person leaves a polish person is brought in as they are paid less than us we have no chance of a pay rise (last one was 3 years ago of 20p ph) the cost of living goes up but the wages stay the same

i really hate it when people say that these foreign workers are doing the jobs that our lot wont do, because there are people that want to do them but are getting so priced out in the wages department it does not make it worthwhile in the longrun.
#40
jasonrat
well its changed over the lst 50 years but i guess it's enjoying our traditions
like mothers day pancake day guy fawlkes etc ec.
respecting our laws
eating etiquette and expectations of visiting other houses
knowing what to epect if u visit a church weddings funerals etc etc


Fair enough I love pancake day, and fireworks.

As for eating etiquette not sure what you mean there but I can use cutlery but also use my hands depends where I am and what I am eating.

Expectations of other peoples homes again not sure what you mean, but I would expect everyone to treat my home as they would their own and I do this when I go to their houses. I wouldn't have thought this was anything to do with religion or Britishness just plain good manners.

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