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Who should the next England manager be?

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Given that Capello will almost certainly (I hope) lose his job who would you like to see take over? Hodgson and Pierce (or Beckham) for me. Should they be English or does it not matter? Or wo… Read More
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6y, 11m agoPosted 6 years, 11 months ago
Given that Capello will almost certainly (I hope) lose his job who would you like to see take over?

Hodgson and Pierce (or Beckham) for me.

Should they be English or does it not matter?

Or would you stick with Capello?
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#1
I think we should have an English manager. I don't know who, but I believe it would be a better idea, an English manager for the English team.
#2
Got to be old twitchey for me, he allways get the best out of average players and makes them feel unbeatable.

won the FA cup with poor portsmouth players
got 4th with poor spurs players

going to win the euro 2012 with utter C@#P england players
#3
Why does the blame always go back to the Manager? Is the Manager on the field? No.

When England were winning all their friendlies Capello was a "God", now they lose in the WC he is "crap".

England played bad, Rooney played like my Mum, if anyone is to blame, it's actually the back 4 or Rooney.
#4
Wotwot123
Why does the blame always go back to the Manager? Is the Manager on the field? No.

When England were winning all their friendlies Capello was a "God", now they lose in the WC he is "crap".

England played bad, Rooney played like my Mum, if anyone is to blame, it's actually the back 4 or Rooney.


Agree with above but the managers job is to get the players playing as a team, capello does not do that,

and why put heskey on when we need 3 goals!!
#5
beckham come on are you serious ?? whats he done to show he can run a team, there are two choice's and only two harry or hodgson
#6
Wotwot123
Why does the blame always go back to the Manager? Is the Manager on the field? No.

When England were winning all their friendlies Capello was a "God", now they lose in the WC he is "crap".

England played bad, Rooney played like my Mum, if anyone is to blame, it's actually the back 4 or Rooney.


Whilst the players were undoubtedly to blame I think the majority of it lies with the manager to me.
He took 3 or 4 known crocked players. He never tried any other formation than 4-4-2 even though we were dismal at half time in 3 of the 4 matches. He looked totally out of his depth to me and void of any ideas or alternatives. My biggest issue is that he seems to pick the 11 players and then find positions for them instead of picking a formation and then finding the best player for each position. Gerrard being a prime example of playing someone out of position just for the sake of it when he had a far better player in Cole (used to this position) ready to go.
banned#7
I'm normally not one to advocate sacking a manager this soon after a defeat, but the team looked tactically underprepared yesterday and bringing on Heskey and SWP when they're clearly not international class was just odd.

Whoever comes in needs time to rebuild. Capello was brought in as the 'missing piece' - the feeling being that we had the players but just lacked the coach.

I'd probably go for someone like Redknapp or Hodgson - someone who knows the English players who are on the fringes of the team, and has a record of getting the best out of teams who are lacking.

Beckham needs to stick around because of his attitude, but Pearce can do one.
#8
Dub1
beckham come on are you serious ?? whats he done to show he can run a team, there are two choice's and only two harry or hodgson


I meant Beckham as an assistant.

As for running a team what had Maradona or Dunga done before they went into running their national team?

It's not about coaching in my opinion it's about man management.
#9
Redknapp - Beckham as an assistant.
#10
doesnt matter whom the manager is they will not be allowed to drop those whom shamed the nation over the last few weeks because it will effect the FA's income.
personally after seeing Ashey cole, heskey, terry and lampard getting off the plane after the game and mucking about and laughing their heads off a couple of hours after getting thrashed shows the mentality of these people and their love of England . no pride .. no passion.
only capello, rooney, milner , upson and green seemed upset.

hopefully whomever takes charge/ remains in charge will drop Terry, A cole, lampard , gerrard, king and heskey and rebuild for the future
banned#11
compo
doesnt matter whom the manager is they will not be allowed to drop those whom shamed the nation over the last few weeks because it will effect the FA's income.
personally after seeing Ashey cole, heskey, terry and lampard getting off the plane after the game and mucking about and laughing their heads off a couple of hours after getting thrashed shows the mentality of these people and their love of England . no pride .. no passion.
only capello, rooney, milner , upson and green seemed upset.

hopefully whomever takes charge/ remains in charge will drop Terry, A cole, lampard , gerrard, king and heskey and rebuild for the future


Yeah - let's drop our one world class player (in his position).
#12
compo
doesnt matter whom the manager is they will not be allowed to drop those whom shamed the nation over the last few weeks because it will effect the FA's income.
personally after seeing Ashey cole, heskey, terry and lampard getting off the plane after the game and mucking about and laughing their heads off a couple of hours after getting thrashed shows the mentality of these people and their love of England . no pride .. no passion.
only capello, rooney, milner , upson and green seemed upset.

hopefully whomever takes charge/ remains in charge will drop Terry, A cole, lampard , gerrard, king and heskey and rebuild for the future


Ashley Cole is the only truly world class player we have IMO. My player of the tournement for England.
#13
maradona had at least managed a team, beckham is a brand and man only there for that reason, he wouldnt be able to manage england few people would, who ever did take the job would need to drop the flops drop the '' name brand players '' and have a squad/team with those who deserve to be there and not just because of who they are ie rooney, didnt score in the w/c yet crouch who has a good recent goal record didnt even get a start
greg_68;8929772
I meant Beckhan as an assistant.

As for running a team what has Maradona or Dunga done before they went into running their national team?

It's not about coaching in my opinion it's about man management.
#14
Stephen Hawkin

Mystic Meg

Simon Cowell
[mod]#15
Dub1
maradona had at least managed a team, beckham is a brand and man only there for that reason, he wouldnt be able to manage england few people would, who ever did take the job would need to drop the flops drop the '' name brand players '' and have a squad/team with those who deserve to be there and not just because of who they are ie rooney, didnt score in the w/c yet crouch who has a good recent goal record didnt even get a start



agreed!
#16
Capello.
#17
Wotwot123
Why does the blame always go back to the Manager? Is the Manager on the field? No.


So on that basis no matter how bad a team plays it is never the managers fault. How ridiculous.

Rooney has played as a lone striker for Man U all season (in a 4-5-1 formation) and done very well. Capello plays him in a 4-4-2 formation BEHIND Heskey or Defoe. Managers choice.

Gerrard plays in a team that uses 4-5-1 (Torres lone striker). Gerrard plays just behind Torres and makes late runs and does very well. Where does Capello play him, on the left wing. Managers choice.

Lampard plays in a team that plays 4-5-1 (Drogba lone striker). Lampard makes late runs in to the box and scored 20 goals last season. Capello plays 4-4-2 making Lampard play deeper in midfield. Managers choice.

In this world cup most stikers have been crowded out by defenders, so it makes sense to play 4-5-1 and have midfield players make late runs into the box (Gerrard, Lampard). What does he play - 4-4-2. Managers choice

In the first game Barry was injured and we had no "holding" midfield player. He plays 4-4-2 and has Lampard and Gerrard as central midfield players, giving them few chances to make late runs in the box. Gerrards goal in that game came from a late run in the box. Managers choice.

You could see by the players body language they were NOT happy with the formation, they were NOT happy with how they were being asked to play. This I believe was TOTALLY down the manager demanding they play HIS way and not the way they wanted. Managers choice.

When the dust has settled I think it will come out that there was behind the scenes problems in the camp between manager and players.
#18
splatsplatsplat
Stephen Hawkin

Mystic Meg

Simon Cowell


I'd take all three of these over Harry ****** Redknapp!!

Mind you, at least we know how to motivate old melting face... If there's a large brown envelope at stake for winning a trophy we'd romp home... :thumbsup:
#19
Capello, Why sack our managers when it's clearly the players that weren't good enough?

No I don't get his decision to bring Heskey on or indeed start with Heskey.

If we did change managers then I'd have Rednapp, Or bring back Sven Lol.

Other than that someone English...!!!

England always play 442 and Capello tried to fit the players around that formation, Perhaps now it's the time to change.
banned#20
shauneco
Capello, Why sack our managers when it's clearly the players that weren't good enough?

No I don't get his decision to bring Heskey on or indeed start with Heskey.

If we did change managers then I'd have Rednapp, Or bring back Sven Lol.

Other than that someone English...!!!


Because the tactics were clearly at fault - the defence got no protection from Barry yesterday. If he couldn't get Barry just to sit in front and protect them then why not bring on King to do it?

Tactically, the Germans were so far ahead it was untrue.

And bringing on Heskey was bad - bringing on SWP is just bizarre.
#21
Franz Beckenbauer :)

He certainly spotted early on that England were a weak squad and said so. ;-)
#22
FilthAndFurry
Because the tactics were clearly at fault - the defence got no protection from Barry yesterday. If he couldn't get Barry just to sit in front and protect them then why not bring on King to do it?

Tactically, the Germans were so far ahead it was untrue.

And bringing on Heskey was bad - bringing on SWP is just bizarre.


Perhaps YOU could do a better job? :-D

Remember, you can't polish a turd. :roll:
#23
Shambolic
Remember, you can't polish a turd. :roll:


You can roll it in glitter though :thumbsup:
#24
FilthAndFurry
Because the tactics were clearly at fault - the defence got no protection from Barry yesterday. If he couldn't get Barry just to sit in front and protect them then why not bring on King to do it?

Tactically, the Germans were so far ahead it was untrue.

And bringing on Heskey was bad - bringing on SWP is just bizarre.


Tactically he got it wrong, Yes, but even then Barry's overrated and we still wouldn't of been good enough.

The biggest problem was the tactic to have two England players on one German leaving the other German attackers unmarked. That was the biggest let down.

We attacked as a team and defended like chimps.
#25
If it's the players why have we dominated the ECL (where most of the players shining at this world cup are playing) for 4 of the last 6 years?

A place where Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney, Cole, Terry, Ferdinand and others look streets ahead of their opposition.

I just can't understand how these players look so great domestically but so inept nationally.
#27
Who has beem the most sucessful English manager in Europe in the last two years? I think it seems to be a guy who just won the dutch league with a unfacied side and just moved to Wolfsburg in Germany maybe we should get him. Though his name does escape me at the moment.
#28
greg_68
If it's the players why have we dominated the ECL (where most of the players shining at this world cup are playing) for 4 of the last 6 years?

A place where Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney, Cole, Terry, Ferdinand and others look streets ahead of their opposition.

I just can't understand how these players look so great domestically but so inept nationally.


I honestly think that the demands and expectations put upon them by their country is so great, that when they pull on the england shirt they are too nervous to relax and play like they do on a weekly basis for their clubs. Just my opinion.
#29
I think Capello should at least see out the remainder of his contract and take us up to the Euro's

Then Stuart Pearce to take over as he will have a good knowledge of the senior set up and we must keep him as the U21 manager during those two years as he can see the players coming through.

Just an observation, Maradona, love him or hate him but watching him reminds me of the passion that is missing from the England manager/team as the way he is so animated on the touchline and also when the players go to him when they score, he loves his country and his country, and their players love him as well.
#30
Mike Bassett :thumbsup:
banned#31
dananana
Who has beem the most sucessful English manager in Europe in the last two years? I think it seems to be a guy who just won the dutch league with a unfacied side and just moved to Wolfsburg in Germany maybe we should get him. Though his name does escape me at the moment.


There's a number of good reasons why Steve Mclaren isn't good enough to be England manager, but for now let's just focus on the stupid Dutch accent.
#32
zezlez
I think Capello should at least see out the remainder of his contract and take us up to the Euro's

Then Stuart Pearce to take over as he will have a good knowledge of the senior set up and we must keep him as the U21 manager during those two years as he can see the players coming through.

Just an observation, Maradona, love him or hate him but watching him reminds me of the passion that is missing from the England manager/team as the way he is so animated on the touchline and also when the players go to him when they score, he loves his country and his country, and their players love him as well.


I agree that passion is missing in the england squad.
Playing for the shirt seems to be a thing of the past.
#33
FilthAndFurry
There's a number of good reasons why Steve Mclaren isn't good enough to be England manager, but for now let's just focus on the stupid Dutch accent.


Can't wait for his german accent one to come out.
banned#34
zezlez
I think Capello should at least see out the remainder of his contract and take us up to the Euro's

Then Stuart Pearce to take over as he will have a good knowledge of the senior set up and we must keep him as the U21 manager during those two years as he can see the players coming through.

Just an observation, Maradona, love him or hate him but watching him reminds me of the passion that is missing from the England manager/team as the way he is so animated on the touchline and also when the players go to him when they score, he loves his country and his country, and their players love him as well.



Stuart Pearce is not a club standard manager, let alone an international manager. Hodgson actually sets up his teams to tactical perfection, understanding their limitations and minimising them which I was surprised to see Capello not doing.

As for Maradona, he barely scraped through qualification despite having Messi, Higuain, Ageuro, Tevez, Mascherano et al. Even then, Mexico were competing up until the dodgy goal.
#35
Terry Butcher
#36
Dont know what went wrong precisely but seemed like the players didnt want to be there. During the time when Venables and Robson were in charge the players looked to be enjoying themselves. But it didnt look that way during this tournament. To say that individual players are excellent or poor is not enough, as a good TEAM is always more than the sum of its parts. England never played well as a team and so we deserved an early exit.
Germany played well as a team making up for any percieved inadequacies.
#37
FilthAndFurry


As for Maradona, he barely scraped through qualification despite having Messi, Higuain, Ageuro, Tevez, Mascherano et al. Even then, Mexico were competing up until the dodgy goal.


I think Argentina will knock Germany out though, and Veron is playing well at the moment.
#38
We need a manager who will be able to pick the best team and not the best players. As I believe that Lampard and Gerrard are our two best midfields but they can't play in the same side as they like occuping the same postion. We went to SA wanting to play 442 but Capello also did not pick one player who is natural left sided midfield in the squad and this was another mistake playing sqaure pegs in round holes.
#39
I think our kick and rush football style has been well and truly found out now. Yes it creates probably the most exciting league to watch in the world as the ball pings end to end for 90 minutes but this also leads to probably the weakest league in the world skill wise.

Take a look at so called smaller countries teams like Ghana, how on earth can these countries be so much more advanced in passing, one touch footbal and overrall tactics when they have such limited resources and so little history?

I am begining to think that foreign players that do not make it in this country are not because they are rubbish but because they are 'too skillfull' and cannot adapt to our kick and rush play.
#40
don't think he'll go but i would prefer an Englishman to take over the job next time around - if for nothing else than to have some English Pride restored to the game and have a manager that truly wants England to win, not some Swedish/Italian manager that's in it for the money and will jump ship at the first sign of defeat for a bonus severance payout!!

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