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Why do you need a tv license?

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I know alot of people think that you don't need one if you don't watch bbc which is untrue. Does anyone know what it pays for? I thought that you need a license to receive programs over the airwaves…
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8y, 10m agoPosted 8 years, 10 months ago
I know alot of people think that you don't need one if you don't watch bbc which is untrue. Does anyone know what it pays for? I thought that you need a license to receive programs over the airwaves, does that mean you don't need one if you have sky or cable?

I know you don't need one if you watch programs on Iplayer. So you could potentially drop the tv license and watch everything a few hours later on iplayer etc.
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8y, 10m agoPosted 8 years, 10 months ago
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#1
I always thought that it is because BBC don't show third party adverts.
I didn't think that if you didn't watch any BBC channels you didn't need to pay your TV License, that's just ignorance really lol
#2
http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/information/index.jsp which says:-
Do I need a TV Licence?

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You need a TV Licence to use any television receiving equipment such as a TV set, digital box, DVD or video recorder, PC, laptop or mobile phone to watch or record television programmes as they're being shown on TV.

If you use a digital box with a hi-fi system or another device that can only be used to produce sounds and can't display TV programmes, and you don't install or use any other TV receiving equipment, you don't need a TV Licence.
and here http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/licencefee/
How your licence fee was spent in 2006/2007

In 2006/2007 each household's colour TV licence cost £10.96 every month. On average this was how the BBC used your money:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/licencefee/images/licencefee2.gif

Whether that you use the BBC is irrelevant as this is a national revenue collection scheme. As for the army, national health, cemetery, national parks, museums, .....whether or not that you use it or not you have to pay your contribution.
And this is how much the BBC is given : expenditure of £3.3billion in 2006/2007. About 25-30 million licences including the cheaper B&W and free ones. This amount of tax/licence revenue is essential if UK is to be a world player in multi-media global empire building around the world. This means that since the UK population is about 55 - 60 million, the licence collection is pretty much > 90% of all home assuming on average there are 2 people per home.
#3
I think you need one if you have any equipment that enables you to recieve broardcasts including pc cards ect.

worto.
edit - or what splender said :)
#4
splender
http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/information/index.jsp which says:-
Do I need a TV Licence?

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You need a TV Licence to use any television receiving equipment such as a TV set, digital box, DVD or video recorder, PC, laptop or mobile phone to watch or record television programmes as they're being shown on TV.

If you use a digital box with a hi-fi system or another device that can only be used to produce sounds and can't display TV programmes, and you don't install or use any other TV receiving equipment, you don't need a TV Licence.


Thanks, but to use Iplayer you don't need a tv license. So you could ditch the license and just watch things on Iplayer, although you'll be limited to about 10 channels.
#5
the tv licence pays for bbc bbc 2 news broadcasts
bbc radio bbc world radio digital services
even if you dont watch you have to pay because you can receive them

if you record them you pay
if you download them you pay
if you have sky you pay
if you have a tv you pay
end of story you pay
else we'll end up like usa tv with adverts every 5mins lasting 15mins try watching a 2hour film in the states then u'll understand

its really a good deal so dont be tight and pay
#6
And why don't ITV show adverts on their programs? Watched Teenage Kicks and there were no adverts! Why on earth would I watch it again when it's shown with the adverts when I can watch it whenever I want over the next 30 days without having to sit through the adverts??
#7
If you have a b&w tv, you pay less. So if I turned the saturation on my TV down to 0, making it b&w. Would I pay less? Watching it b&w all the time obviously.
#8
"Will I need a TV licence to watch programmes on BBC iPlayer?
TV licence

You do not need a TV licence to download TV programmes which are available on the current version of the BBC iPlayer."
#9
Benjimoron
And why don't ITV show adverts on their programs? Watched Teenage Kicks and there were no adverts! Why on earth would I watch it again when it's shown with the adverts when I can watch it whenever I want over the next 30 days without having to sit through the adverts??


To add, surely the advertisers are going crazy about this? ITV Catch-up is basically a replacement for taping a program and watching it later. If you taped it you'd still see their advert, if you watch it on ITV Catch-up you don't see their advert. I bet they're still paying the same price tho!
#10
you also don't need a tv licence if you're not receiving anything as it is broadcast, so you can own a tv for games/dvds etc. that's what i do, tv is rubbish these days, the ocaisional good program can be bought on dvd at a later stage, not worth the £180 or whatever.

i've been without tv since september and i don't miss it at all...
#11
gav989
you also don't need a tv licence if you're not receiving anything as it is broadcast, so you can own a tv for games/dvds etc. that's what i do, tv is rubbish these days, the ocaisional good program can be bought on dvd at a later stage, not worth the £180 or whatever.

i've been without tv since september and i don't miss it at all...


Very true, why buy it on dvd later when you can watch it on iplayer or similar. Assuming it's not on a channel not on iplayer etc.
#12
£500 fine for me from a few years ago for no licence, I was watching tv at exes about 5 years ago when I got "THE KNOCK" I naturally assumed she had got a licence!! Saying this though ive not paid a penny of the fine, do you think they will have wrote it off by now???
#13
Basically if you have a TV then you need to buy a licence thats the long and short of it..

At the moment no licence is needed for downloading tv content on say BBCI player, if that was the case then everyone that owned a pc would have to buy a licence and I don't think many would be having that would they..:roll:

TV = Licence..

No TV = don't need a licence
banned#14
a video explaining how to become exempt very clever!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
#15
we live in a free society ?

but why are we forced to pay for telly.

which other country has a tv licence?:x
#16
splender;1939147

How your licence fee was spent in 2006/2007

In 2006/2007 each household's colour TV licence cost £10.96 every month. On average this was how the BBC used your money:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/licencefee/images/licencefee2.gif


Thanks for the breakdown... very interesting.
#17
crazylegs
Basically if you have a TV then you need to buy a licence thats the long and short of it..

At the moment no licence is needed for downloading tv content on say BBCI player, if that was the case then everyone that owned a pc would have to buy a licence and I don't think many would be having that would they..:roll:

TV = Licence..

No TV = don't need a licence


Not really.

You can have a tv and not have a license, it depends on whether you use it to receive live broadcasts.

If they made Iplayer require a license (which they will do in the future) then it doesn't mean that having a pc means you need a license, it would mean that if you used your pc for Iplayer you would need a license.
#18
Magic_monkey;1939190
If you have a b&w tv, you pay less. So if I turned the saturation on my TV down to 0, making it b&w. Would I pay less? Watching it b&w all the time obviously.

You will still have a Colour TV, so you still pay for a Colour TV licence.
#19
crazylegs
Basically if you have a TV then you need to buy a licence thats the long and short of it..

At the moment no licence is needed for downloading tv content on say BBCI player, if that was the case then everyone that owned a pc would have to buy a licence and I don't think many would be having that would they..:roll:

TV = Licence..

No TV = don't need a licence


surely that simplifies it too much....it isn't as such a TV as any product that receives and displays a television signal...for example a laptop can have a dongle added which can then receive and show broadcasts, which by definition turns it into a TV. or am I mistaken.....

I think the TV licence helps to keep the quality of BBC products and its independance, and I am looking forward to F1 returning to the beeb...no bloomin' adverts.....having said that I wonder how much advertising the beeb would need to sell to cover the licence fee.
#20
imranmaz
a video explaining how to become exempt very clever!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU


Thanks, I sat through the whole thing.
#21
Agent_Silver
surely that simplifies it too much....it isn't as such a TV as any product that receives and displays a television signal...for example a laptop can have a dongle added which can then receive and show broadcasts, which by definition turns it into a TV. or am I mistaken.....


You're right, it's whether the device actually receives live broadcasts or not. Not whether it's capable of it or not, it's whether it actually does it.
banned#22
Benjimoron
Thanks, I sat through the whole thing.


the informative bit is right at the end :thumbsup:
#23
Benjimoron;1939331
Not really.

You can have a tv and not have a license, it depends on whether you use it to receive live broadcasts.

My understanding is that if the TV is CAPABLE of receiving broadcasts then you will need to have a TV licence. Saying that you do not use your TV to watch TV is not enough. You will have to prove to the licencing authority that you will never use the equipment to view TV programmes.
"You need a TV Licence to use any television receiving equipment such as a TV set ...."
#24
erics
My understanding is that if the TV is CAPABLE of receiving broadcasts then you will need to have a TV licence. Saying that you do not use your TV to watch TV is not enough. You will have to prove to the licencing authority that you will never use the equipment to view TV programmes.
"You need a TV Licence to use any television receiving equipment such as a TV set ...."


...to watch or record television programmes as they're being shown on TV.


You missed the bit on the end.
#25
this is why when you buy a new tv, they send your details off to the licencing people, my missus pays the licence and I got a nice letter from them asking me to supply the details of my licence!!
#26
Teqnophile
which other country has a tv licence?:x


That would be the majority of them. :)

From wikipedia:

"The Museum of Broadcast Communications in Chicago notes that two-thirds of the countries in Europe and half of the countries in Asia and Africa use television licences to fund public television. TV licensing is rare in the Americas, largely being confined to French overseas departments."
#27
Benjimoron;1939384
...to watch or record television programmes as they're being shown on TV.
You missed the bit on the end.

But if you have a TV capable of receiving TV broadcasts then you can also watch or record television programmes can you not? The assumption by the TVLA is that any equipment so equiped to receive broadcasts will be used to do so. You will have to jump through hoops to prove to them that your TV will never be used for such a purpose.
#28
so you can watch left wing biased news and loads of repeats
#29
erics
But if you have a TV capable of receiving TV broadcasts then you can also watch or record television programmes can you not? The assumption by the TVLA is that any equipment so equiped to receive broadcasts will be used to do so. You will have to jump through hoops to prove to them that your TV will never be used for such a purpose.


I would agree it is the capable bit that is important, otherwise you could time shift by 30 seconds and try and get out of paying your licence....

Blind people pay a reduced fee I believe....mind you when they talk about what the licence pays for, they seemed to have missed out some of their income streams generated by selling off programmes abroad.
#30
erics
But if you have a TV capable of receiving TV broadcasts then you can also watch or record television programmes can you not? The assumption by the TVLA is that any equipment so equiped to receive broadcasts will be used to do so. You will have to jump through hoops to prove to them that your TV will never be used for such a purpose.


I'm not going to do it so it's irrelevant, but they'd have to prove that I do use it for that. They cannot assume, makes an ass out of u & me!
#31
Agent_Silver
I would agree it is the capable bit that is important, otherwise you could time shift by 30 seconds and try and get out of paying your licence....

Blind people pay a reduced fee I believe....mind you when they talk about what the licence pays for, they seemed to have missed out some of their income streams generated by selling off programmes abroad.


I don't remember seeing that time travel had been invented???

You'd have to receive the signal at the time it was broadcast then delay it 30 seconds, but you'd still be receiving it as it's being broadcast, just watching it 30 seconds later.
#32
imranmaz;1939323
a video explaining how to become exempt very clever!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU

son of a ****ing bitch
ill have that bloody tune rick rolling round in my head all sodding day
banned#33
raptorcigs
son of a ****ing bitch
ill have that bloody tune rick rolling round in my head all sodding day


HAAHAHAHAHAHA!
banned#34
gav989;1939253
you also don't need a tv licence if you're not receiving anything as it is broadcast, so you can own a tv for games/dvds etc. that's what i do, tv is rubbish these days, the ocaisional good program can be bought on dvd at a later stage, not worth the £180 or whatever.

i've been without tv since september and i don't miss it at all...

Not true at all. If your TV has a tuner then you have to have a licence. The only way around it is if you only have a monitor.
#35
Teqnophile
we live in a free society ?

but why are we forced to pay for telly.


who forces you? nobody, just get rid of your tv and you don't have to pay!
#36
Benjimoron;1939463
I'm not going to do it so it's irrelevant, but they'd have to prove that I do use it for that.

My understanding that the responsibility of proof lies with you. They will be able to prove that you have purchased a TV capable of receiving, so it is up to you to prove that you will not use that functionality.
Benjimoron;1939463

They cannot assume, makes an ass out of u & me!

I think they do make that assumpion and I suspect it is true for a very high percentage of people.
#37
csiman;1939650
Not true at all. If your TV has a tuner then you have to have a licence. The only way around it is if you only have a monitor.


Apparantly the way around it is not to have an aerial and to ensure that all your receivers are de-tuned ... and make sure you are not caught retuning with an indoor aerial!
#38
csiman
Not true at all. If your TV has a tuner then you have to have a licence. The only way around it is if you only have a monitor.


But it says you need a license to use it to receive broadcasts, not you need a license to own one.
#39
erics
My understanding that the responsibility of proof lies with you. They will be able to prove that you have purchased a TV capable of receiving, so it is up to you to prove that you will not use that functionality.

I think they do make that assumpion and I suspect it is true for a very high percentage of people.


They surely can't just say we assume he's doing something illegal so we'll fine him. That's like taking someone to court and saying you assume he broke the law, you'd have to prove that he broke the law.

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