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Why Don't You See Any Chavs In Europe?

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8y, 3m agoPosted 8 years, 3 months ago
Thought I'd post this for a little amusement along with being a serious question.
Having visited quite a few countries in western europe over the last few months, one thing really struck me, you don't seem to see any 'chavs', by that I mean the baseball capped or hoodies with the adidas track suits etc generally being pretty anti social.
Is this a British phenomenom?
I found it a real pleasure to be able to walk around city centres late at night without having to half look over my shoulder to see who was behind me, there seemed to be a totally relaxed friendly atmosphere as opposed to the rather menacing one you often find in the UK and when you did see the odd person who'd obviously had a few too many there was no threatening behaviour just a bit of a stumble!
Any one got any ideas?
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8y, 3m agoPosted 8 years, 3 months ago
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banned#1
Cos our country gives kids nothing to do, so they spend all day ******* people off thinking they look good...

Plus our police are too soft, they're too scared of being sued for racism or false arrests..etc

My opinion anyway.....I agree though the rest of europe is far more grown up
#2
Having to watch you back is normal everywhere you go these days!
I think this thread is very wrong and offensive!
I always wear hoodies and i have many hoodies for my little one but i am not a "chav" as you call it - it's just what i wear and feel comfortable in!
banned#3
KELLY 'N' STEVE
Having to watch you back is normal everywhere you go these days!
I think this thread is very wrong and offensive!
I always wear hoodies and i have many hoodies for my little one but i am not a "chav" as you call it - it's just what i wear and feel comfortable in!


that's a bit of a daft comment, if you think wearing a hoodie with your hood up on a dark night is ok then your wrong. It can scare the **** out of people, so what if you comfortable, think about everyone else.!
#4
Not meant to be offensive just a question, I didn't have to watch my back at all in France, Denmark, etc.
#5
teenagers with hoods are scary and intimidating,theres a big bunch who hang around outside the lcoal shop and I wont go down there after dark as you get hurled abuse,they demand you buy them fags and booze etc,personally think that they should clear the streets after dark,no under 16's out after a certain time unless with an adult
#6
I took the ferry from Dover to Boulogne recently and saw some teenagers start waving at the passengers so we thought we'd be friendly and wave back, they then all stuck the middle finger up and ran off laughing, not a big deal but interesting.......didn't happen in Boulogne..
banned#7
I agree, I live in a small ish village and was called a ****** from accross the street for just walking? I have only just moved her so they don't know me, is this really what the world has come to these days? abuse for the sake of it
#8
Zootaga
that's a bit of a daft comment, if you think wearing a hoodie with your hood up on a dark night is ok then your wrong. It can scare the **** out of people, so what if you comfortable, think about everyone else.!


So i have to stop wearing my clothes just to stop others from being scared - are you on something! Talk about my comment being daft!
I dont wear my hood up nor do i hang around the streets.
I am a mum living at home with my other half.
banned#9
KELLY 'N' STEVE
So i have to stop wearing my clothes just to stop others from being scared - are you on something! Talk about my comment being daft!
I dont wear my hood up nor do i hang around the streets.
I am a mum living at home with my other half.


In that case I think you have missed the point of this thread. I too wear hoodies, in fact all the time, the point is that groups of teenagers gather in groups hurling abuse and causing trouble, often stealing, vandalising etc. It's common knowledge that they stereo type themselves by wearing hoodies, tracksuites etc.

Just because you also wear this type of clothing doesn't make you a chav, it's a combination of the clothing and behaviour that gives someone this label
#10
Imo the parenting of kids in other parts of Europe is a lot stricter than in Britain. That might have something to do with it, they seem to have stronger family values spend more time together as families and teach respect.
#11
I see your point but i dont like the fact people are labelled because of what they wear!
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My little one will certainly not be growing up in that way and thats a fact!!
banned#12
KELLY 'N' STEVE
So i have to stop wearing my clothes just to stop others from being scared - are you on something! Talk about my comment being daft!
I dont wear my hood up nor do i hang around the streets.
I am a mum living at home with my other half.


I think you've also proved my point, the reason this country is so ****ed when it comes to being able to walk around the streets at night or just go to the shops is the police are to scared they might offend someone. The police need to take action and get these kids off the streets, the council, government AND PARENTS also need to do their bit by giving them something to do....
#13
Zootaga
In that case I think you have missed the point of this thread. I too wear hoodies, in fact all the time, the point is that groups of teenagers gather in groups hurling abuse and causing trouble, often stealing, vandalising etc. It's common knowledge that they stereo type themselves by wearing hoodies, tracksuites etc.

Just because you also wear this type of clothing doesn't make you a chav, it's a combination of the clothing and behaviour that gives someone this label


Yes I think the clothing issue is pretty irrelevant, just because people wear hoodies track suits etc doesn't make them a chav it just so happens that most chavs seem to dress this way.
It's the behaviour that I'm talking about.
banned#14
queenlush
Imo the parenting of kids in other parts of Europe is a lot stricter than in Britain. That might have something to do with it, they seem to have stronger family values spend more time together as families and teach respect.


I totally agree, my kids also will grow to good family values.....What's wrong with going camping, playing board games etc....are these things a thing of the past?
#15
Zootaga
I think you've also proved my point, the reason this country is so ****ed when it comes to being able to walk around the streets at night or just go to the shops is the police are to scared they might offend someone. The police need to take action and get these kids off the streets, the council, government AND PARENTS also need to do their bit by giving them something to do....


Ha ha yeah i get it!! We have had a kerfew (spelling - i know!!) put in place in a couple of my local towns - not sure if the rebels are the reason though!:thinking:
#16
Zootaga
I think you've also proved my point, the reason this country is so ****ed when it comes to being able to walk around the streets at night or just go to the shops is the police are to scared they might offend someone (like you). The police need to take action and get this kids off the streets, the council, government AND PARENTS also need to do their bit by giving them something to do....


Why do you seem to think the council or government need to provide our kids with entertainment ? There are parks, youth clubs, leisure centres, cinemas, cubs, brownies.I never had computers or the entire contents of Game in my room when i was little. We went swimming, ice skating or bowling not terrorising the locals. :)
banned#17
KELLY 'N' STEVE
Ha ha yeah i get it!! We have had a kerfew (spelling - i know!!) put in place in a couple of my local towns - not sure if the rebels are the reason though!:thinking:


LMAO....ouch, talk about pointing the finger
banned#18
queenlush
Why do you seem to think the council or government need to provide our kids with entertainment ? There are parks, youth clubs, leisure centres, cinemas, cubs, brownies.I never had computers or the entire contents of Game in my room when i was little. We went swimming, ice skating or bowling not terrorising the locals. :)


I totally agree, BUT, I live near York, the nearest Ice Skating rink is 45 miles away, the local youth club was closed 2 years ago as it got vandalised, the scouts was closed down as it was previously subsidised by the council for 25 years, now it's not so it's gone. We had a skate park for a few years, now it's gone and a gym put in it's place. We do have cinema and bowling but these things will only entertain for a short while, things like scouts (not sure about brownines) are a valuable to start in life, I myself went to scouts and learnt a lot of values that have made me the decent hard working man I am today
#19
lol nothing like a good old debate 1st thing in the morning. My opinion on the problem teenagers of today is??? 1, The goverment as taken away the majority of parents rights. 2, You get the stupid do gooders ("professional bodies" )who say that children, from pre school age should be allowed to make there own choices leading to some parents giving there child a free reign to do what they want and never set any guidelines. 3, Parents born in the 60-70s buying there children what they want and when they want it using the excuse of "we never had anything when we were young" or "we had to wear hand me downs"
Children are a product of there parents and all of the above makes children of today what they are.

What did children of 20-30 years ago have to do in there free time? I think the "there is nothing for them to do" is used as an excuse. Why do people think that kids have to be kept occupied 24/7
#20
Now i didn't say mine just! But i live in quiet little cornwall! When we visited my sister-in-law who lives in london i was astonished by the difference! There were so many of these groups all hanging around the streets (daytime) compared to the 1 or 2 individuals you see down my way!
I was actually very concerned for us as they are so loud and "in ur face!":w00t:
#21
It can't be easy growing up now as everyone is so materialistic, kids want the best mobiles, wii, ipods, trainers etc. Our local park had a new football/basketball pitch put in and a skate park. Within an hour of it being opened some scrote had vandalised it. Kids aren't scared of anyone anymore because if anyone gave them an old fashioned clip around the ear they would be done for assault.
banned#22
It can be extremely scary....the problem for other kids is they either do their thing and get bullied or join them and make their groups even bigger.....
[admin]#23
Reinstating this thread. Please keep the discussion civil as any offensive comments or arguments will result in the thread being locked.
#24
juliet_bravo
Reinstating this thread. Please keep the discussion civil as any offensive comments or arguments will result in the thread being locked.


Thanks JB :-D
#25
Ah it's back.....i don't know what to say now lol
#26
queenlush
It can't be easy growing up now as everyone is so materialistic, kids want the best mobiles, wii, ipods, trainers etc. Our local park had a new football/basketball pitch put in and a skate park. Within an hour of it being opened some scrote had vandalised it. Kids aren't scared of anyone anymore because if anyone gave them an old fashioned clip around the ear they would be done for assault.


Agreed :thumbsup:
#27
queenlush
Ah it's back.....i don't know what to say now lol


Haha as the moment passed for you now :-D
#28
alfie73
lol nothing like a good old debate 1st thing in the morning. My opinion on the problem teenagers of today is??? 1, The goverment as taken away the majority of parents rights. 2, You get the stupid do gooders ("professional bodies" )who say that children, from pre school age should be allowed to make there own choices leading to some parents giving there child a free reign to do what they want and never set any guidelines. 3, Parents born in the 60-70s buying there children what they want and when they want it using the excuse of "we never had anything when we were young" or "we had to wear hand me downs"
Children are a product of there parents and all of the above makes children of today what they are.

What did children of 20-30 years ago have to do in there free time? I think the "there is nothing for them to do" is used as an excuse. Why do people think that kids have to be kept occupied 24/7


Agreed especially on point no 2, buying your kids the best of is fine but they need to value things, all mine had a paper round and if they wanted £70 trainers they had to put money towards.
#29
alfie73
Haha as the moment passed for you now :-D


kind of :oops: i should be working too :-D
#30
queenlush
kind of :oops: i should be working too :-D


Me too, I think i will make a coffee first thou lol
#31
hmm i feel a coffee moment too. oh well nice while it lasted.
#32
queenlush
Agreed especially on point no 2, buying your kids the best of is fine but they need to value things, all mine had a paper round and if they wanted £70 trainers they had to put money towards.


So much pressure on parent thou nowadays from when there children are at an early age. Unfort I think the only way things will change is if all parent make a stand (that will never happen and if it did prob not in our lifetime) :)
#33
It won't work because people don't have a sense of community anymore, in my parents day everyone mucked in if someone was struggling, everyone looked after and knew everyone elses kids. When i used to "play out" my mum used to say "behave cos Mr or Mrs whoever will tell me what you've been up to, and that was enough for me. Now Mr and Mrs whovever will probably get their windows put in for telling tales.
#34
I blame unemployment and the governments attitude towards it, in other words, none of these chavs seem to value anything and the reason they dont is cos in most cases they have grown up from a family on handouts and free council houses and havent seen the true value of money ie... that you have to work hard for it.
#35
I'm sorry to say that a lot of the problem is the lack of family guidance. I don't think that it makes any difference what your home background is. We live in a fairly nice area and still have gangs of local youths hanging around intimidating people and generally causing trouble, there is loads of provision for young people with clubs, teen discos, sports and after school clubs but the sort of kids who hang around in gangs don't attend youth clubs.
#36
kungfu
I blame unemployment and the governments attitude towards it, in other words, none of these chavs seem to value anything and the reason they dont is cos in most cases they have grown up from a family on handouts and free council houses and havent seen the true value of money ie... that you have to work hard for it.

There are people that genuinely can't get a job or afford a house but still encourage the kids to do better, it's the ones that are claming to be on the sick, drink all night then sleep all day apart from 3-5pm when they are dealing drugs and let their boys run riot and damage everything in sight. I know cos i have this lovely family on my road.
#37
queenlush
There are people that genuinely can't get a job or afford a house but still encourage the kids to do better, it's the ones that are claming to be on the sick, drink all night then sleep all day apart from 3-5pm when they are dealing drugs and let their boys run riot and damage everything in sight. I know cos i have this lovely family on my road.


lol thats exactly who im talking about, they make up 99% of them imo
#38
kungfu
lol thats exactly who im talking about, they make up 99% of them imo


It really disheartens me to think that i've been to work all month to earn what they have been given on a plate. I also wish i had the gumption to do something about it but i've just had new windows lol
#39
queenlush
It really disheartens me to think that i've been to work all month to earn what they have been given on a plate. I also wish i had the gumption to do something about it but i've just had new windows lol


yeh bugs me too when i set off for work and see people sat in their scruffy unkept front gardens full of old washing machines and sat there drinkin lager without a care in the world while im off for a 10 hour graft, governments fault tho innit.
#40
me and my brothers (all under 21) all wear hoodies cos they are easier than trench coats BUT we all have been brought up with respect. my youngest brother is 14 and is in doors by 9pm .... the next 2 are in when they want .........
BUT the only offence any of us has commited is one of my brothers was caught with a small amount of weed on him.
NOT all kids these days go around beating up old ladies BUT it does depend on the parents

our father is strict on his rules. you break one, and your gonna get it....... so we know how to behave. the problem is that parents can be in court for clipping their own child.

FFS children need tough love or they end up like the little chits that loiter the streets. We have no cinema here (town of 40,000) and we have no after school clubs etc thats why we have social problems here BUT if me and and my brothers can keep out of trouble, why can't everyone else .,......... Kids need to get a football and go over to the recreation field..... I do this a lot and it passes the time without having to mug some poor old lady for her pension.

rant over :-D

btw except one (just finished college), we all have full time jobs even my mum and dad ..........

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