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Wii Downloaded games form the Shop Channel.

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9y, 4w agoPosted 9 years, 4 weeks ago
Does anyone have the definitive answer as to whether games that are downloaded to your Wii from the Shop Channel are transferable when the console is sold on ?

My feelings are NO because I think they are linked to the owners account and not the actual console.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong please :)
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9y, 4w agoPosted 9 years, 4 weeks ago
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#1
Chapter: Wii Shop Channel Services.

Article: Wii Shop Channel Account.

Your Wii Console includes a Wii Shop Channel Account that allows you to use the Wii Shop Channel Services. A Wii Shop Channel Account is personal to you. You may not sell or transfer your Wii Shop Channel Account or any Content or Product associated with your Wii Shop Channel Account to any person other person.

You are responsible for monitoring your Wii Shop Channel Account and setting up appropriate parental controls functions and measures to limit access to your Wii Shop Channel Account. You are responsible for anyone using your Wii Shop Channel Account, whether with or without your permission.

Source : http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/wii/en_na/privacyEULA.jsp

edited to provide link.
#2
AFAIK, the games are on your console, and it stays with the console, wherever that console may be. They cannot be transferred anywhere.

Eg If I sold my Wii, the buyer would get the content I've downloaded using Wii points.

What account? You switch the wii on, and away you go. You don't 'log in' or anything.
#3
What account? You switch the wii on, and away you go. You don't 'log in' or anything.


Your shop account, specific to you.

The other part of your post Deal4Me is the grey area and needs looking at closely.

When you download games from Nintendo you actually download the licence for the game and that licence is specific to you, not transferable. They are locked to your shop account.

So what, just leave the games on there when you sell would be the normal answer but this is forgetting that the Wii including the Shop Channel holds personal data on you. This information includes the Credit Card number used to download any games from the shop channel. The number is part encrypted obviously but I wouldn't want to risk some bright spark creating a hack at some future stage (if not already)

Before you sell your Wii you really should do a format on it. A bit like selling your laptop or PC.
You therefore delete your shop account and the downloaded games.

In any case the person buying your Wii would normally want to create their own account and you can only have one account per Wii.
When they create their account the blurb tells you that any downloaded games and Wii points will be lost.

You can't even download the games onto a SD card to get round it that way because they won't tie up with any new account.

In my opinion Nintendo have not issued clear enough info on this subject, most of it is hidden in the Users agreement. Here's one link, Google will provide a few others, all official Nintendo sites: http://wiiportal.nintendo-europe.com/terms/

As I have said this appears to be a very grey area and there's a possibility I may have got some specifics a little wrong but I do believe the general information is correct.

Please feel free to correct me by providing proper links etc. because a lot of people will be selling their Wii's and it's important. Keep it polite though please :)

Regards to all :)
#4
Hmmm good point with the card details.

Its been a while since I've used the shop channel, but I don't think I've never created an account.

I've only ever bought Wii points from Woolworths and used a code, so I've never entered card details etc.

Maybe its a different issue for people who pay by card / pre-paid points?
#5
Possibly Deal.
The whole thing is a bit of a minefield to be honest.
I know for sure I would make our lad here format his Wii if he ever sold it just to be 100% sure.

The initial point was that downloaded games can be passed on with the Wii when sold on but I really don't think that's the case especially if owners want to be safe and also if they comply to Nintendo's advice.

Thanks for your opinion, appreciated :)
#6
Yup.

I think the best way to find out is to find someone who has bought a second hand wii, and see what their experiences have been like regarding downloaded games.

"In any case the person buying your Wii would normally want to create their own account and you can only have one account per Wii." (hottoshop)

- Could the new owner not carry on with the account, keep the games? More beneficial to new owner. Just buy Wii Points card?

You're not wrong when you say its a grey area mate!
#7
I have recently brought a second hand wii with games downloaded on it but I have not gone on line with it yet. I will try it tonight and see what happens
#8
I just took delivery of a 2nd user Wii with downloaded games on it. Reading the above it seems I may have received less than I paid for? Those downloaded games, once the internal memory is full, will disappear from the Wii never to be seen again?
#9
If your internal memory is full, you 'should' be able to remove the game, and install the game again free of charge at a later date.

Another factor to be considered.
#10
Quinten
I just took delivery of a 2nd user Wii with downloaded games on it. Reading the above it seems I may have received less than I paid for? Those downloaded games, once the internal memory is full, will disappear from the Wii never to be seen again?


So... you're in receipt of stolen goods, huh? ;)
#11
fanpages
So... you're in receipt of stolen goods, huh? ;)


I think 'stolen' is the wrong word to use. The first owner downloaded the games to the Wii, which is now sold to quinten.

He's done nothing wrong.
#12
Indeed. As far as I am concerned, ownership of these games transferred to me, just like they would with physical games. I dun nothing wrong officer ;)
#13
Thats the issue. As hottoshop stated above, Nintendo say you can't sell or transfer these.

Its a grey area. It might mean that you physically cannot remove the games from the console to sell on? It could mean something else.

But the Wii now is yours, the downloaded games are on it. I thought of it as 'taking your wii to a friends house' to play. The downloaded games are on it.
#14
Deal4Me
Thats the issue. As hottoshop stated above, Nintendo say you can't sell or transfer these.

Its a grey area. It might mean that you physically cannot remove the games from the console to sell on? It could mean something else.

But the Wii now is yours, the downloaded games are on it. I thought of it as 'taking your wii to a friends house' to play. The downloaded games are on it.


Be careful... you don't want to give Nintendo ideas about having to apply for a public performance licence of the game titles ;)


It is one of those grey areas... much like lending video-taped TV programmes to someone.

BFN,

fp.
#15
Yup which I think is also silly! I remember watching Schindlers list in school, after the warnings like its for home use, cannot be used elsewhere etc etc.

fanpages
Be careful... you don't want to give Nintendo ideas about having to apply for a public performance licence of the game titles ;)


It is one of those grey areas... much like lending video-taped TV programmes to someone.

BFN,

fp.
#16
Deal4Me
Yup which I think is also silly! I remember watching Schindlers list in school, after the warnings like its for home use, cannot be used elsewhere etc etc.


Indeed.

Maybe where the phrase "taking the wii" comes from? :giggle:
#17
fanpages
Indeed.

Maybe where the phrase "taking the wii" comes from? :giggle:

:giggle: :giggle:
#18
In their terms + conditions they state that any games downloaded are for the individuals use only and if you sell your Wii you are responsible for deleting the games beforehand. Also if you buy a Wii you are responsible for deleting any of these downloaded games if they have not been deleted.


That being said I think that the T+C's on downloaded games are there mainly to cover Nintendo legally. I can't see them ever trying, or even wanting to try, to enforce this.:thumbsup:
#19
OK at the risk of becoming boring I have just been through this step by step on the console with our lad :)

Firstly if you have purchased a 2nd Hand console and it has downloaded games on then to keep those games you would have to NOT delete the previous owners shopping channel details. If you wanted to buy further games then you would have to buy a Wii Points card and download games using the specific number on the card.
You will NOT be able to open up your own Shopping channel account.

It goes without saying that this is against Nintendo's T&C's and probably not beneficial to you in the long run because you possibly won't benefit from any future promotions and also you won't be able to link your Stars account to the Shop Channel. (At some stage hopefully Nintendo will allow you to change Stars into Points !!)

It should also be noted that if you intend to sell your Wii you should definitely format it before selling because it does contain personal information.

Relevant quotes from Nintendo T&C's below
Wii has two types of data that are tied to your specific Wii console:

The internal Wii System Memory stores your photos, game save data, messages, address book, etc.
The Wii Shop Channel Account is tied to your specific hardware which contains the licenses for your downloaded games, and your account transaction history.
None of this information can be recovered if you return your Wii to the store, and Wii Shop Channel transactions are non-transferable and non-refundable. In addition, returning your Wii console to the store without formatting your Wii System Memory or Wii Shop Account account (how to) could allow others to see information (e.g., photos, messages, address book) that is tied to your Wii console.


Article: Wii Shop Channel Account.

Your Wii Console includes a Wii Shop Channel Account that allows you to use the Wii Shop Channel Services. A Wii Shop Channel Account is personal to you. You may not sell or transfer your Wii Shop Channel Account or any Content or Product associated with your Wii Shop Channel Account to any person other person.

You are responsible for monitoring your Wii Shop Channel Account and setting up appropriate parental controls functions and measures to limit access to your Wii Shop Channel Account. You are responsible for anyone using your Wii Shop Channel Account, whether with or without your permission.

Article: Points.

The Wii Shop Channel Services allow you to use Points you have purchased to license Content or purchase Products. Points are not your personal property. Points have no cash or monetary value and are non-refundable.

Points are for your own personal use. Once Points are placed into your Wii Shop Channel Account, you may not withdraw, sell or transfer them to another person. You may only use Points to license Content or purchase Product for your Wii console unless we expressly permit you to use Points for another purpose. You are responsible for your use of Points placed into your Wii Shop Channel Account, and for anyone else’s use of those Points, whether or not you give them permission to do so.

If we suspect fraudulent or unlawful activity concerning the Points in your Wii Shop Channel Account or your use of those Points, we may cancel, suspend or otherwise limit your access to the Wii Network Service, or any portion thereof, and your right to use the Wii Shop Channel Services, including your Points, will immediately end. If, as a result, Points are deleted from your Wii Shop Channel Account, they will only be reinstated at Nintendo’s sole discretion.

Article: Credit Card Charges and Your Billing Account.

You may use your credit card to purchase Points on-line. You represent to us that you are authorized to use the credit card and you agree that you are responsible for all charges to that credit card. Unless otherwise required by law, all charges to the credit card used to purchase Points are nonrefundable.

Article: Account History.

Each time you purchase Points on-line through the Wii Shop Channel Services, and each time you use Points to license Content or purchase Products, the transaction will be reflected in your account history. You may obtain your account history through the Wii Shop Channel Services. Account history information will be available for transactions conducted within the last calendar year.


Hope that helps and feel free to correct me by posting links if I've somehow still got it wrong :)
#20
I have just looked into this on my newly purchased 2nd hand wii and it states clearly on the shop channel that if you sell you wii you must delete the shop channel as you are not allowed to sell a wii with downloaded games on it. There is a button for you click on to wipe the shop channel & any games etc.
#21
Yup, I've discovered the same :)

A good thing that the previous owner used Wii points cards to buy the console games ;)
#22
It's an interesting issue- Sony seem to skirt around it by allowing the account holder to download online purchased games (five?six?) times. This means that the original purchaser doesn't lose out by deleting the games before they sell their PS3, and can get them again when/if they buy another PS3 in the future. I think Sony embrace the fact that some users will download their content onto friends consoles as a roundabout selling point- ie "Hey, if you buy a PS3 I can give you a few games for free"- and another console sold. After all, it is pretty much 'dead' content for them.
#23
My you have been busy :)

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