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Will this work? Dialaphone related

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8y, 3w agoPosted 8 years, 3 weeks ago
I've been looking to get a N85 for a while now, and it seems that the networks don't seem to want to push/offer this phone. Ebay is around £330 but I don't like going down that route due to insurance scammers, warranty etc.
Dialaphone has it, on Vodaphone and Orange, on some pretty crappy contracts. I was thinking of getting it on the lowest Vodaphone contract, 12m @ £25, then cancelling it straight away as I don't need another contract. Vodaphone then work out the settlement figure at the monthly cost without VAT, as they are not providing a service for the remaining months. This would be £288, with Quidco included and allowing two months contract at full price to ensure it tracks properly.
My question is: will Dialaphone try to do some kind of clawback (in regards to the phone subsidy) as I have broken the contract early (I'm sure some retailers used to do this) and they may not receive their full commission?
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8y, 3w agoPosted 8 years, 3 weeks ago
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#1
wouldnt they make you pay the full price of the 12 months as it is?
#2
monkeybrains;3872604
wouldnt they make you pay the full price of the 12 months as it is?


Nah, Voda charge the remaining months minus VAT as a early cancellation fee. As I don't need another contract, I thought I may as well do that than pay full price on a contract I don't want.
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MoneySavingG
Nah, Voda charge the remaining months minus VAT as a early cancellation fee. As I don't need another contract, I thought I may as well do that than pay full price on a contract I don't want.


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ho much you think all this will cost you in the end then?
#4
£25 x 2m = £50
£21.25 x 10m =£212.50
£85.57 (dialaphone charge)
£348.07
-£60 Quidco
£288.07
#5
MoneySavingG
£25 x 2m = £50
£21.25 x 10m =£212.50
£85.57 (dialaphone charge)
£348.07
-£60 Quidco
£288.07


makes sense. no idea if it willall work out though

mybe someones whose tried it can help the OP
banned#6
The provider should get a clawback from Vodafone for you breaking the contract... You can not cancel the contract, you can only give it back within 14 days in which case you have to give back the phone :) all seems like a really dodgy thing to do...

The handset is provided with the contract on the condition you remain on the contract for the set period, I dont see why Vodafone and or Dialaphone wouldnt not only charge you but also blacklist the handset

If however you are keeping up the contract payments then there shouldnt really be a problem, vodafone used to have a clawback period for retailers for upto 11 months thats why most smaller shops will not do Vodafone or O2.

12 * £25 = £300 per year on a 12 month Contract.
- £60 for Quidco cashback
#7
MobilePhonez
The provider should get a clawback from Vodafone for you breaking the contract... You can not cancel the contract, you can only give it back within 14 days in which case you have to give back the phone :) all seems like a really dodgy thing to do...

The handset is provided with the contract on the condition you remain on the contract for the set period, I dont see why Vodafone and or Dialaphone wouldnt not only charge you but also blacklist the handset

If however you are keeping up the contract payments then there shouldnt really be a problem, vodafone used to have a clawback period for retailers for upto 11 months thats why most smaller shops will not do Vodafone or O2.

12 * £25 = £300 per year on a 12 month Contract.
- £60 for Quidco cashback


good advice there
#8
MobilePhonez;3873572
The provider should get a clawback from Vodafone for you breaking the contract... You can not cancel the contract, you can only give it back within 14 days in which case you have to give back the phone :) all seems like a really dodgy thing to do...

The handset is provided with the contract on the condition you remain on the contract for the set period, I dont see why Vodafone and or Dialaphone wouldnt not only charge you but also blacklist the handset

If however you are keeping up the contract payments then there shouldnt really be a problem, vodafone used to have a clawback period for retailers for upto 11 months thats why most smaller shops will not do Vodafone or O2.

12 * £25 = £300 per year on a 12 month Contract.
- £60 for Quidco cashback


I think you've got the wrong end of the stick - I'm not going renege on the contract at all, I've got too good a credit rating to do that :thumbsup:. I'm planning on using the early termination clause (http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=9552, http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=13925) to effectively pay off a contract early (at a 15% discount).
I really want to know if anyone knows of anything in the Dialaphone t&c's which would not allow me to do this (and they will try to charge me), as effectively my contract is with Vodafone each month.
banned 1 Like #9
They dont really know unless there is a problem with your account... e.g your bills arent paid then Vodafone contact them and ask for your proof of id, etc and then decide whether or not to claw them back or not.

To be honest, I do believe that if they do clawback dialaphone, then dialaphone would probably try and block the phone.

Also I think this phone is set to drop in price shortly it is only that price as only Dialaphone/Phones4U seem to have them, its supposed to be the cheaper smaller brother of the N96 so it should be cheaper
#10
MobilePhonez;3874704
They dont really know unless there is a problem with your account... e.g your bills arent paid then Vodafone contact them and ask for your proof of id, etc and then decide whether or not to claw them back or not.

To be honest, I do believe that if they do clawback dialaphone, then dialaphone would probably try and block the phone.

Also I think this phone is set to drop in price shortly it is only that price as only Dialaphone/Phones4U seem to have them, its supposed to be the cheaper smaller brother of the N96 so it should be cheaper


Hmm. Im in two minds now on what to do. I know it can be a nightmare getting things like this sorted if something does go wrong.
The funny thing is the Dialaphone Voda N85s are actually Voda branded, but Voda have no intention (so they say on their forum) on stocking them directly. I've been waiting a few months now for a price drop, but it doesn't seem to be forthcoming, and I seriously need a new phone.
Anyway thanks for the advice :thumbsup:
banned#11
Another option would be to go for the £25 a month 18 month contract

Pay 9 * £25 = £225
then Downgrade after month 9 to the cheapest package then pay it all off
Pay 9 * £15 = £135 - VAT = £117

Total Spend £342 - £60 Quidco Cashback
= £282 total and you have less of a chance of annoying Dialaphone and you get a contract for 9 months...
banned#12
MoneySavingG
Hmm. Im in two minds now on what to do. I know it can be a nightmare getting things like this sorted if something does go wrong.
The funny thing is the Dialaphone Voda N85s are actually Voda branded, but Voda have no intention (so they say on their forum) on stocking them directly. I've been waiting a few months now for a price drop, but it doesn't seem to be forthcoming, and I seriously need a new phone.
Anyway thanks for the advice :thumbsup:


Thats what T-Mobile said about the N96 but I know lots of people that have those with T-Mobile, they lie :shock:, I personally would wait, even if Voda themselves dont get it, CPW and others will and the price will drop as it really was supposed to be half the price of the N96... That said my experience with it, is its a little buggy, you will need to update the firmware as soon as you get it :) still better than anything else out there though, should be a few new ones from Nokia soon though :)

Another problem you might have is if your not going to use it with Vodafone, you will probably need to get it unlocked, if it is Voda branded it will be locked, I cant remember if DM3 unlock these if they do then it will be about £25+ if they dont then Voda probably wont provide the code for a few months.

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