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wing clipping what do u think?

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7y, 11m agoPosted 7 years, 11 months ago
when i went to pick my parrot up the other day the breeder asked me if i wanted his wings clipped so he couldnt fly into windows etc and hurting himself,stuppidly i hadnt done researched wing clipping and thought he was going to put some sort of clip on its wing,then when he got the scissors and cut a massive chunk of feathers out of the birds wing all his feathers fell to the floor and my heart sank and i have felt sooo guilty ever since
i have been told they will grow back in a few months but i just dont think i could get that done again but then i dont really want him flying into things and hurting himself or flying into the kids faces or something or escaping as with 5 kids they are always in and out of the doors
im so confused and feel so guilty about it
are there any other owners that have a parrot whose wings arent clipped?
would appreciate any advice
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7y, 11m agoPosted 7 years, 11 months ago
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#1
hi my birds wings are not clipped she doesnt come out alot as she hates females and there is 4 girls in my house but these birds are very clever cant see them flying into things(i maybe wrong) lets see what your other responses say but i think it is cruel but that is my personnel thoughts.
#2
Personally it's not something I do - both birds love flying round the lounge terrorising the dog. I don't have kids though so don't really have to worry about open doors, windows etc. When I got the pair they each had a wing savagely clipped - the poor grey took almost a year to grow his wing feathers back fully :( I also don't for the reason that my downstairs floors are laminated and grey split his chest open by smashing into the floor from the top of his cage repeatedly trying to follow me about.

Don't feel too bad about it - they will grow back :) Still, having his wings clipped now means he can at least adjust to his surroundings with no serious risk of injury.
#3
my parents have ducks, as pets, and clip their wings so they can't fly away.

I understand that their wings and clipped to different lengths so they can't fly well and so won't escape from the garden.

however I am not sure why you have to do it to inside birds. I kept budgies when I was younger and never heard of wind-clipping then.
#4
no no no :( how would you like it if someone amputated your arms for a few months??
#5
Can you get a birdy ball and chain? :P

I personally wouldn't feel guilty about it, its very common for pet birds to be clipped and for obvious reasons. A lot of people don't agree with it but I feel it's ok as long as it's done properly. I know that it isn't natural etc. etc. but then again neither is keeping a bird in a cage.
#6
AberBargoed
Personally it's not something I do - both birds love flying round the lounge terrorising the dog. I don't have kids though so don't really have to worry about open doors, windows etc. When I got the pair they each had a wing savagely clipped - the poor grey took almost a year to grow his wing feathers back fully :( I also don't for the reason that my downstairs floors are laminated and grey split his chest open by smashing into the floor from the top of his cage repeatedly trying to follow me about.

Don't feel too bad about it - they will grow back :) Still, having his wings clipped now means he can at least adjust to his surroundings with no serious risk of injury.


yeah thats what i have been telling myself at least he has time to get used to us all
still fell awful about it though,feel guilty every time i look at him :-(
#7
At least a breeder should have clipped his wing properly so it should grow back fairly swiftly - mine literally had a wing missing :cry:
#8
I must say its one of my personal hates,only because ive seen the damage first hand caused by wing clippings gone wrong,birds were born to fly and fly they love doing,mine does all over our 3 storey house,this poor grey was in a terrible state after a wing clip gone wrong,in fact his body shape just doesnt look right,he was in a pet shop that I ended up getting the rspca called down to
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#9
it went from bad to worse in that shop,imagine how many weeks these poor mites sat in this squalor,they sat gazing at a row of parrot toys yet none of them had a toy in their cage it makes me sick theyre treated like that,the rspca were great in this instance and immediatly went to the shop and told them to clean u their act,i visit there about once a month now and must say its not brilliant but a lot better than ebfore
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#10
AberBargoed
At least a breeder should have clipped his wing properly so it should grow back fairly swiftly - mine literally had a wing missing :cry:
havent forgotten about your grass cafe buddy i was off work ill yesterday so didnt venture out,will be going down there after my posties been today so will let ya know later :thumbsup:
#11
Thats awful! :x Hope things have improved since those pictures. £895 for an African Grey, blimey I thought my local selling them for £795 was expensive!
#12
Cruel, and to be honest should be treated as badly as tail docking.
#13
AberBargoed
Thats awful! :x Hope things have improved since those pictures. £895 for an African Grey, blimey I thought my local selling them for £795 was expensive!
yeah and the state they were in i walked away crying i felt so bad for em:x shops like that shouldnt have the right to sell animals when they cant give them a half decent life style within the shop
#14
Mardyass
havent forgotten about your grass cafe buddy i was off work ill yesterday so didnt venture out,will be going down there after my posties been today so will let ya know later :thumbsup:


No problem, thanks! :-D The boys have been having great fun over the past few days with pomegranate and strawberries, my walls looked like a crime scene :w00t:
#15
going off the point abit here but i read your first post so i take it you got a male then? what have you called him?
#16
edjaned if you let his wing clip grow out he will learn over time his limits of flying,especially as he is a baby,ive only ever had one fully flighted parrot that decided to crash land into a windowsill and that was because the sod was after the cat at the time!
alternatively if you think it may be a problem with kids coming in and out etc etc i can highly recommend the aviator harnesses,great for time out in the sunshine and "free flight" in a big open space,theyre quite expensive but well worth it
I think i had to buy the flight line as an optional extra but my boy loves feeling the wind beneath his wings and comes back on queue :)

http://www.24parrot.com/The-Aviator-Parrot-Harness--Medium--7-colours-P83941a/
#17
AberBargoed
No problem, thanks! :-D The boys have been having great fun over the past few days with pomegranate and strawberries, my walls looked like a crime scene :w00t:
why do they like the messy stuff so much?!:roll:
#18
greyparrot
going off the point abit here but i read your first post so i take it you got a male then? what have you called him?


yeah i got a male he had been dna sexed :)
he loves everyone...for now
i think we are calling him alfie :)
#19
my parrot had its wings partly clipped when it was younger, to stop it flying upwards (could still fly horizontal)

I've never had them clipped since but I don't see it as a bad thing, its not like having a tail cut off/arm amputated. If done properly, it's no different to us having a haircut.

It would be different if the bird was already flying, if it's never flown before.. it wouldn't know what it was missing
#20
edjaned
yeah i got a male he had been dna sexed :)
he loves everyone...for now
i think we are calling him alfie :)


great glad you are all enjoying him and thats a lovely name mine was already named when we got her shes called coco if you can get some pics up so we can have a look.:thumbsup:
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#22
The main issue here is the guilt you feel edjaned. Please relax because it will only make matters worse. You were not aware what he meant, he "should" have made sure you knew what it meant (I wouldn't have known myself, i'm a normal guy who isn't a know it all). Avoid feeling guilty because you bird will feel this guilt you have yet not understand why you have it, and he/she might beleive it's their fault and feel sad (when they don't even feel sad about their wings being clipped) just love them for now and remember that they will grow back.
#23
He looks lovely, nice name too :thumbsup: Is he noisy?

I'm sure the guilt will subside with your feathered friend, he can still clamber round his cage to his hearts delight! When my grey is out he isn't that interested in flying, he'd quite happily sit on my lap all evening if he could getting his head rubbed. If it's not that then he's got an obsession with the sky remote!
#24
penguins cope
#25
edjaned
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he is lovely enjoy him and dont worry too much they should grow back.:)
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there only animals who gives a
#27
black gerbil1
there only animals who gives a

You need a good smacked ass you do!
#28
black gerbil1
there only animals who gives a
says he with such an apt name:roll:
#29
black gerbil1
there only animals who gives a


Bit early for fishing isn't it? Might want to check your grammar next time before spamming :thumbsup:

Mardy - do you ever take your birdy out with a harness on? Been thinking about getting one for some time now!
#30
Lulu'sMammy
You need a good smacked ass you do!

lol que
Mardyass
says he with such an apt name:roll:

its a just a username
AberBargoed
Bit early for fishing isn't it? Might want to check your grammar next time before spouting **** :thumbsup:

im just saying, not like its a big deal imo, its only a animal, you could always get another one if anything goes wrong.

nothing like a human life.
#31
AberBargoed
Bit early for fishing isn't it? Might want to check your grammar next time before spamming :thumbsup:

Mardy - do you ever take your birdy out with a harness on? Been thinking about getting one for some time now!
yeah he has a free flight time about twice a week,i put the harness on him,pop him in the backpack and drive up to a big field nearby which has a huge slope that is often used for handgliders,i then set him off from the slope so he flies downwards and has the hard work coming back to me,even harder when the winds against him lol
he loves it but he does get puffed out and sweaty! you wouldnt believe how many dog walkers stop to see what im doing and are amazed when they see for themselves,i think the majority of people think parrots sit in their cages all day long!
its great exercise for him,gets him using all those muscles

When i first harness trained him i only used to let him on the flight line for 5-10 mins cos he was knackered now he is more than happy for an hour or so :)
#32
I dont think its right, but then i think caging up birds is cruel anyway. They should be out flying.
#33
no he is not noisy at all
he seems happy,his cage stays open all day just goes in at night time
he has learnt to wolf whistle so far and is making noises as if trying to talk
the thing is he tries to fly and crashes into things and i go into a panic thinking he is hurt each time,i think thats whats making it worse,so if he is 14 weeks would he have learnt to fly b4 coming to me?thats what is making me feel worse i feel like he was free to fly uo until i had him and im worried he still thunks he can fly
i think i may invest in one of them harnesses,thanks mardy x
im also looking into buying some wheatgrass of ebay :)
thanks for advice everyone....janet x
#34
just wondering what people line their cages with?im using the beech chippings at the moment
also his claws are so sharp anything good to keep them down?
and lastly i have seen wormers and things for parrots should i bother with them or should i go to the vets to see what treaments they offer?
#35
do they not poop all over your houses?
#36
edjaned
just wondering what people line their cages with?im using the beech chippings at the moment
also his claws are so sharp anything good to keep them down?
and lastly i have seen wormers and things for parrots should i bother with them or should i go to the vets to see what treaments they offer?
try the concrete perches for keeping the claws short and blunt they work :) as for wormers etc just take him to your local avian vet who will get him a full health check and decide what he is best with
You can clip the claws yourself but its a bit fiddly first few times and if you cut too far you risk a bleed so theyre best left for the vet too
#37
autolesbona
do they not poop all over your houses?

mines poop trained haha if he needs to go he flies back to his cage sits on top and poops!
#38
edjaned;3718013
just wondering what people line their cages with?im using the beech chippings at the moment

Puppy training pads in the bottom of the cage (easier to clean and I'm lazy) :oops:
#39
Mardyass
mines poop trained haha if he needs to go he flies back to his cage sits on top and poops!


didn't realise you could poop train birds. I want one now lol
#40
Mardyass
mines poop trained haha if he needs to go he flies back to his cage sits on top and poops!


how did u teach him to do that? :?

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