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Wootton Bassett March

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6y, 11m agoPosted 6 years, 11 months ago
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6y, 11m agoPosted 6 years, 11 months ago
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#2
"I wouldn't think they'd get permission from the police."

If it did, i think there would be one hell of a problem, the people from this area in the country turn out time and time again for our fallen hero' s and i take my hat off to them. Any protest march would be met with just as strong if not stronger turnout...... i am sure people would come from far and wide to join in.
suspended 1 Like #3
More than a million innocent civilians have died in Iraq and Afghanistan since they were invaded.
Respect to the islamic group for marching.
#4
DarkKnight
More than a million innocent civilians have died in Iraq and Afghanistan since they were invaded.
Respect to the islamic group for marching.


Mostly at the hands of Muslims ,
#5
tonyg1962
Mostly at the hands of Muslims ,


how did you figure that one out?
Hardly any muslims in the US or British army
#6
whosthere?
how did you figure that one out?
Hardly any muslims in the US or British army


Are you sure?
#7
DarkKnight
More than a million innocent civilians have died in Iraq and Afghanistan since they were invaded.
Respect to the islamic group for marching.


There is a Difference in marching then Marching where those fallen soldiers are brought home. Why do a march there, when you know it will be met by strong controversy and protests. It is something which the leader of group is aiming to do.
#8
anthonyt
There is a Difference in marching then Marching where those fallen soldiers are brought home. Why do a march there, when you know it will be met by strong controversy and protests. It is something which the leader of group is aiming to do.


Because its a protest march?
suspended#9
anthonyt
There is a Difference in marching then Marching where those fallen soldiers are brought home. Why do a march there, when you know it will be met by strong controversy and protests. It is something which the leader of group is aiming to do.


Obviously to protest against the war. which is the right thing to do.
If there was no war in the first place then there wouldn't have been any dead UK soldiers.
banned#10
DarkKnight
Obviously to protest against the war. which is the right thing to do.
If there was no war in the first place then there wouldn't have been any dead UK soldiers.


If you wanna protest against the war, you goto Westminster. If you want to specifically cause as much offense and upset as possible, you do what they are planning.

I suspect people will actually get seriously injured or killed if this happens.
#11
vibeone

If you wanna protest against the war, you goto Westminster. If you want to specifically cause as much offense and upset as possible, you do what they are planning.

I suspect people will actually get seriously injured or killed if this happens.


But if you want heavy media coverage you go to Wootton.....
#12
Why dont we just do a deal with each other,all Christians out of Muslim countries and all Muslims out of Christian countries.

We all trade with each other and Britain stops trying to be the worlds policeman.
A crappy little broke country with 70 million people that keeps on telling the worlds 6 billion people what to do?
banned#13
Shengis
But if you want heavy media coverage you go to Wootton.....


Oh yes.

I doubt itll be allowed to happen. Like I said, I can see there being one hell of a fight.
suspended#14
vibeone

If you wanna protest against the war, you goto Westminster. If you want to specifically cause as much offense and upset as possible, you do what they are planning.

I suspect people will actually get seriously injured or killed if this happens.


There are no rules on where you can protest or not.
They are doing it there to gain more publicity or the protest, whereas they wouldn't be getting as much if they were in Westminster.
#15
hooray henry
Why dont we just do a deal with each other,all Christians out of Muslim countries and all Muslims out of Christian countries.

We all trade with each other and Britain stops trying to be the worlds policeman.
A crappy little broke country with 70 million people that keeps on telling the worlds 6 billion people what to do?


Actually that's America.
#16
hooray henry
Why dont we just do a deal with each other,all Christians out of Muslim countries and all Muslims out of Christian countries.

We all trade with each other and Britain stops trying to be the worlds policeman.
A crappy little broke country with 70 million people that keeps on telling the worlds 60 billion people what to do?


Because all the people here who want to return the people of Afghanistan to the terrors of living under the Taliban dont want to actually want to live like that themselves, Same as when the American Irish funded the IRA making Northern Ireland a hell hole while they lived the good life in America,
#17
Well ,someone had better do something soon because theres gonna be a race war soon,and everyone will have to pick a side. The first to get done willbe those Labour scumbags.
#18
Shengis
Actually that's America.


:thumbsup::thumbsup:
#19
tonyg1962
Because all the people here who want to return the people of Afghanistan to the terrors of living under the Taliban dont want to actually want to live like that themselves, Same as when the American Irish funded the IRA making Northern Ireland a hell hole while they lived the good life in America,


I suspect the terrors of living under the taliban have been grossly exaggerated......... just like everything else building up to the war was
#20
I think the BNP should have a march too ....same time ...same place ......:w00t:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w113/jackb2302/HarryHill_fight-1.jpg
1 Like #21
whosthere?
I suspect the terrors of living under the taliban have been grossly exaggerated......... just like everything else building up to the war was


You really need to do some research then and talk to some people who were there, The people of Afghanistan deserve to be able to live normal lives the same as anybody else ,
#22
Mecoconuts
I think the BNP should have a march too ....same time ...same place ......:w00t:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w113/jackb2302/HarryHill_fight-1.jpg


:lol:
#23
tonyg1962
You really need to do some research then and talk to some people who were there, The people of Afghanistan deserve to be able to live normal lives the same as anybody else ,


But what is the definition of normal? Going to bed now. Hopefully this thread will still be here when I get up.
#24
tonyg1962
You really need to do some research then and talk to some people who were there, The people of Afghanistan deserve to be able to live normal lives the same as anybody else ,


Id say the same to you....... the very few people who you have probably heard about are the people who are directly benefiting under the US regime.
Afghanistan wasnt utopia before the invasion.......... but it was a much better place. There is alot of resentment towards the American occupation..........
banned#25
DarkKnight
There are no rules on where you can protest or not.
They are doing it there to gain more publicity or the protest, whereas they wouldn't be getting as much if they were in Westminster.


Common decency would inhibit protesting where our wartime dead are repatriated too.

Thats not about being muslim or not, or agreeing with the war or otherwise.

Its common decency, and clearly their desperate press coverage is more important than that.

Not that it should be an issue, but this is really gonna do wonders for race relations isn't it? Its not gonna push more and more people towards the nutty BNP is it? Course not.

Come to think of it - what on earth do they hope to achieve?
suspended#26
tonyg1962
Because all the people here who want to return the people of Afghanistan to the terrors of living under the Taliban dont want to actually want to live like that themselves, Same as when the American Irish funded the IRA making Northern Ireland a hell hole while they lived the good life in America,


Afghanistan and Iraq were both better countries before the invasion.
Both of these countries were pretty much third world countries before the invasion so their life before wasn't amazing but it was better.
During the invasion, Iraq had massive outbreaks of diseases, lack of clean water, electricity, their lives destroyed by deaths and living in complete fear of even leaving their houses due to bombs, their prisons were destroyed, their holy places were destroyed, their museums and hospitals were destroyed.

There was only one reason why these countries were invaded, and everybody knows it was because of black gold. They were invaded on a lie and so many innocent people have died because of that.
A protest is the least of what should happen, regardless of the protest location.
suspended#27
vibeone
Come to think of it - what on earth do they hope to achieve?


You are right, it will be like headbutting a brick wall in regards to something being done to stop the war.
But if they can build up support, then this will encourage others to follow and great a larger publicity too.
banned#28
DarkKnight
Afghanistan and Iraq were both better countries before the invasion.
Both of these countries were pretty much third world countries before the invasion so their life before wasn't amazing but it was better.
During the invasion, Iraq had massive outbreaks of diseases, lack of clean water, electricity, their lives destroyed by deaths and living in complete fear of even leaving their houses due to bombs, their prisons were destroyed, their holy places were destroyed, their museums and hospitals were destroyed.

There was only one reason why these countries were invaded, and everybody knows it was because of black gold. They were invaded on a lie and so many innocent people have died because of that.
A protest is the least of what should happen, regardless of the protest location.


Define 'better' countries.

While I would agree Iraq was more stable - and perhaps a better place before hand, Afganistan certainly wasn't.
banned#29
DarkKnight
You are right, it will be like headbutting a brick wall in regards to something being done to stop the war.
But if they can build up support, then this will encourage others to follow and great a larger publicity too.


You are welcome to that view, but I genuinely think this is gonna do far more harm than good on a lot of fronts, including their own aims and demands etc.
suspended#30
vibeone
Define 'better' countries.

While I would agree Iraq was more stable - and perhaps a better place before hand, Afganistan certainly wasn't.


Better as in the civilians having a better quality of life, and the country having more stability.
How would you know that Afghanistan wasn't a better country before the invasion? I wouldn't say countries in a state of war are in a better state.

vibeone

You are welcome to that view, but I genuinely think this is gonna do far more harm than good on a lot of fronts, including their own aims and demands etc.


Ghandi did it, Martin Luther King did it. As long as the form of protest is peaceful then it's not a problem.
If the civilians of that English town start violence then they are in the wrong for doing so, as violence is not the key, and is the very reason why the group are protesting in the first place.
If the English people in the town are in disagreement over the protests, then they should complain in peaceful ways such as petitions, talks, etc.
#31
vibeone
Define 'better' countries.

While I would agree Iraq was more stable - and perhaps a better place before hand, Afganistan certainly wasn't.


Do you know how big a refugee crisis the war has caused in Afghanistan.......
Theres shortage of food.......... clean water and medicines........
Over a million innocent civilians have been killed......
Look at the effect its had on neighbours like Pakistan.
How can you say Afghanistan is better off now.........
for that matter......... how can anyone be better off after a war??
#32
Yeh Iraq was a wonderful utopian country before the Muppets invaded. Try telling that to the Kurds in the north especially the thousands that got gassed,or the Marsh Arabs maybe in the south that were killed and tortured,or even the Shias who werent allowed to practice their religion..
banned#33
whosthere?
Do you know how big a refugee crisis the war has caused in Afghanistan.......
Theres shortage of food.......... clean water and medicines........
Over a million innocent civilians have been killed......
Look at the effect its had on neighbours like Pakistan.
How can you say Afghanistan is better off now.........
for that matter......... how can anyone be better off after a war??


I've not been to Afganistan before or after(during) the war. Have you? if not we are all on an equal footing. You say its not better, I say it is.

I remember watching a channel 4 docu ages before even a hint of war (before 9/11 - talking about war with america/the west btw, not war in general) about a reporter going back to her homeland. It was absolutely shocking.

So please feel free to disagree with me, but dont tell me I'm wrong like its a fact - I'm sticking to my views on that one.
#34
DarkKnight
Afghanistan and Iraq were both better countries before the invasion.
Both of these countries were pretty much third world countries before the invasion so their life before wasn't amazing but it was better.
[COLOR="Red"]During the invasion, Iraq had massive outbreaks of diseases, lack of clean water, electricity, their lives destroyed by deaths and living in complete fear of even leaving their houses due to bombs, their prisons were destroyed, their holy places were destroyed, their museums and hospitals were destroyed[/COLOR].

There was only one reason why these countries were invaded, and everybody knows it was because of black gold. They were invaded on a lie and so many innocent people have died because of that.
A protest is the least of what should happen, regardless of the protest location.


Iraq Is split North and South (not unlike East and West germany was) the south was like East germany while the north is quite well off and prosperous and never saw the war on there doorstep.
banned#35
I'm off to bed, but I genuinely hope this thread is still here in the morning, though I suspect maybe not.
#36
Sorry but from someone who lives near wooton bassett and have been there for one parade/ walkthrough (unintentional). Islam4UK has only one motive, to cause a scene, they have picked a place where all the british soldiers have been taken through. The town folk dedicates their time to pay their respects every time a coffin passes though. Why should a "group" that only wants to incite a reaction, do it at a place where the feeling towards british soldiers is high.

Islam4UK have one aim and that is to belittle the dead soldiers and to gain publicity. One poster said that iraq was better than before the UK invasion, what about the mass executions of people who voted against Saddam Hussein? Read a little more into it before spouting crap.

I am not aginst the war, nor am i for it. I have not had a member of my family go to war (yet) but I still have an opinion. The war doesn't insult me or fill me with glee, but for some "group" with a hidden agenda to belittle the dead Uk soldiers who were doing their job, is sick. The soldiers are told to go to afghanistan and fight, they are fighting cos that's what they are paid to do.

There is a nice saying, "don't talk ill of the dead". Allowing islam4UK to parade / spout crap in wooton is basically doing that.
#37
DarkKnight
Obviously to protest against the war. which is the right thing to do.
If there was no war in the first place then there wouldn't have been any dead UK soldiers.


Do you think us serving soldiers wanted to go to war? Unfortunately we don't get a choice we do as we are told, 9 times out of 10 this will not be the most popular option with the British public and time and time again we are made out to be the bad people for the events that happen.
#38
faevilangel
Sorry but from someone who lives near wooton bassett and have been there for one parade/ walkthrough (unintentional). Islam4UK has only one motive, to cause a scene, they have picked a place where all the british soldiers have been taken through. The town folk dedicates their time to pay their respects every time a coffin passes though. Why should a "group" that only wants to incite a reaction, do it at a place where the feeling towards british soldiers is high.

Islam4UK have one aim and that is to belittle the dead soldiers and to gain publicity. One poster said that iraq was better than before the UK invasion, what about the mass executions of people who voted against Saddam Hussein? Read a little more into it before spouting crap.

I am not aginst the war, nor am i for it. I have not had a member of my family go to war (yet) but I still have an opinion. The war doesn't insult me or fill me with glee, but for some "group" with a hidden agenda to belittle the dead Uk soldiers who were doing their job, is sick. The soldiers are told to go to afghanistan and fight, they are fighting cos that's what they are paid to do.

There is a nice saying, "don't talk ill of the dead". Allowing islam4UK to parade / spout crap in wooton is basically doing that.


where Saddam killed certain communities, after they rebelled, like every dictator would. the coalition ha been indiscriminate, killing more women and children than Saddam ever did.

the grou planning the march - a 'platform for Al Muhajiroun ( a 'terrorist' organisation) are loons anyway. why doesn't the govt just ban them altogether, instead of allowing them to incite violence ?
#39
faevilangel;7406971
Sorry but from someone who lives near wooton bassett and have been there for one parade/ walkthrough (unintentional). Islam4UK has only one motive, to cause a scene, they have picked a place where all the british soldiers have been taken through. The town folk dedicates their time to pay their respects every time a coffin passes though. Why should a "group" that only wants to incite a reaction, do it at a place where the feeling towards british soldiers is high.

Islam4UK have one aim and that is to belittle the dead soldiers and to gain publicity. One poster said that iraq was better than before the UK invasion, what about the mass executions of people who voted against Saddam Hussein? Read a little more into it before spouting crap.

I am not aginst the war, nor am i for it. I have not had a member of my family go to war (yet) but I still have an opinion. The war doesn't insult me or fill me with glee, but for some "group" with a hidden agenda to belittle the dead Uk soldiers who were doing their job, is sick. The soldiers are told to go to afghanistan and fight, they are fighting cos that's what they are paid to do.

There is a nice saying, "don't talk ill of the dead". Allowing islam4UK to parade / spout crap in wooton is basically doing that.

And never was a more intelligent post posted. Well done, decency is all that should be expected, and Islam4uk are going against that. They are clearly wanting a "set to" and if this goes ahead the local people and more wide spread will give them exactly that.
banned#40
They are British citizens who have the right to protest. Maybe some would consider it poor taste but that's part of free speech.

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