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7y, 8m agoPosted 7 years, 8 months ago
I've had enough, this country has gone to the dogs, I honestly can't take any more of the rubbish thats going on here.

Would you vote for me if my manifesto was :

1) Close all borders to immigrants, refugees and asylum seekers indefinitely.

2) Have mandatory military service for all school leavers who sign on and do not go into employment or further study.

3) Anyone claiming unemployment benefit for more than 12 months would be forced to either enter military service or become government employed and trained to do jobs in return for their benefit money, such as community service: resurfacing roads, gardening community areas etc.

4) I would give all first time home buyers 50% discount on their mortgage repayments for 3 years under £200K.

5) I would abolish stamp duty on all homes bought under £250K

6) I would abolish the MPs expenses system.

7) I would increase all child benefit.

8) I would cap all bank directors salaries and prevent any bonuses to be paid to any bank employee in the UK without government approval first based on company performance.

9) I would give strict guidelines on crime and punishment, e.g.: Caught carrying a knife = 12 months in Prison, Caught carrying a fire arm = 5 years in prison, Drunk driving = 12 months in prison, driving with no licence = 12 months in prison, Joyriding = 12 months in prison, etc.

My political party would be called the: S.O.C. Party ( Save Our Country ).

Honestly, do you believe politicians anymore? Do you believe they are in-touch with the real people of this country?

I mean come on it's a credit crunch and they get expenses to get a moat cleaned? cleaners? Pools cleaned?

They need to live in the real world! They are all a bunch of idiot toffs!
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7y, 8m agoPosted 7 years, 8 months ago
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#1
sorry wont vote for u......... its a bit too strict i reckon
#2
i would vote for you defo.
close boarders and the national serivce won me over
banned#3
dont stop there 'ifyoudontask'

please continue.
#4
join ukip then . .
#5
free mortgages? what about us first time buyers who won't qualify as we've already bought our gaffs?

child benefit only for three kids max, no extra for doley scrounger scum
#6
im in bar a few edits here and there
#7
u would defo get my vote
#8
No. You're clearly misguided.
#9
I'd vote for you possibly. !!!!

First I'd need to know where your extra income will be coming from to achieve points 4, 5 7 and 9. All of these point will require a massive capital outlay, would I the tax payer foot the bill ?

More prisoners kept in for longer will need many more prisons to be built.
#10
how pray tell would you pay for all this?

upon hearing a different answer from bring out troops home, tax the rich, scrap nuclear weapons etc then i'm out.
#11
sorry wouldn't vote as don't agree with no 8 among others. Yes I agree big bank bosses should have salaries/bonuses capped but normal banking staff? I work for a bank and have the direct day to day contact with customers. Why should we have our salaries/bonuses cut/capped. We are the hardworking staff keeping everything going and working bloody hard for our money its the big bosses that should reduce pay not us we don't get salaries anything like them!
#12
Only if you pay my expenses, ie; new flat in London, pool cleaning, and a Swedish Au pair! :prop:

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#13
I stopped reading at this country has gone to the dogs :giggle:
#14
I'd vote but I'd be p!ssed off with the first time buyers thing after buying my first house only 2 years ago. I just missed out on any benifits first time buyers are getting now, and now my house is worth £10k less than what I paid. So I'm now worse off than anyone as I have a large mortgage, never got or will recieve any forst time buyer benifits and my house is worth less than what I paid. If I managed to get ont the market then they can manage too. I sacrifised a lot for two years to get a deposit.
If you changed that rule then it may swing my vote!
#15
what help would you give to the pensioners and the "real" disabled imho both dont get enough money and "the amount the law says you need to live on" is a complete joke
#16
You have my vote !
#17
i would vote for you
#18
needs a bit more work,but would get my vote

doubt many guardian readers will vote for you though
banned#19
would the police get more powers and extra doughnuts ?
#20
wheres ur education policy or ur health policy. it seems falwed in that it gives little manevourability on the rules.... ur either this or that...... almost dictatorship style. yes i agree we need to toughen up but every case needs to be judged on its merits,...u got the right ideas...but need to calm down on the agression!! hehe
#21
nope...
2 Likes #22
1. Some of the most needed workers in this country are foreign. Your 'policy' is borderline racist.
2. How do you decide if they are 'signing on' if the instant they do they are forced into the military? Military service is not, by definition, a positive thing.You would also need to pay these new, and unneeded, soldiers a salary.
3. I can agree that people that decide not to work - not ilness etc related - should do volunteer work etc. How you'd police this is another question - you cannot FORCE people to work. Prison isn't an option when you consider the cost of support the offspring of these people.
4. And leave them unable to make payment in three years? Real world calling.
5. And give up the tax income from these sales? People buying £250k homes are not the ones that need government money.
6. This is already being done.
7. Why? Seems to me that there is little money to be distributing based on the number of children that somebody has. Why not look at discouraging the reproduction of people unable to support their children without government assistance?
8. Puh. You want a communist state where competition is limited by the state or is this a knee-jerk reaction to something you feel is unjust?
9. And then put these people where? BTW - 12 months seems a little pathetic for carrying a knife or drink driving...

Enough of the 'I could fix the country' speak - these ideas are simply a reaction to the injustice that you are aware of - there is much that you're not and your responses would do nothing to solve anything.

Try limiting the income of criminals through the legalisation of ALL drugs - crippling drug communities incomes and providing valuable tax income. Or perhaps enabling the UK to be less dependant on fossil fuels by encouraging use of cycles and funding scientific investigation into alternatives...

As always, 'Lock 'em up' attitudes fail.
#23
Extend no 9 to: make all prisons a punishment, not a holiday park.
Cap child benefit to 3 kids only.

I'd be in, but how would you pay for all this? lol
#24
boothy


doubt many guardian readers will vote for you though



or people with an ounce of common sense. This is reactionary nonsense that I doubt would even see the light of day in the sun or daily mail at their right wing knee jerk worst.
#25
giles thats top notch stuff there!!
#26
You've got my vote.
#27
magicbeans
giles thats top notch stuff there!!


:)
#28
magicbeans
giles thats top notch stuff there!!


+1
#29
no way - im too young to vote :P plus half the stuff is crazy
#30
ants97
or people with an ounce of common sense. This is reactionary nonsense that I doubt would even see the light of day in the sun or daily mail at their right wing knee jerk worst.


For a moment I thought I was alone...
#31
Firstly, all money lost from stamp duty under £250K would be very little but it would help the housing market steady at a realistic level.

Taxing the rich would be the obvious answer but not the only solution, more green energy is a huge area that is just not being utilised yet.

The knock on effect of having strict jail time for offenders will lower the re-offender rate and act as more of a deterant for commiting the crime in the first place. This should lower the overall prisoner numbers.

Asking mothers to go back to work early decreases the contact with the child and decreases the jobs available.

Big banking cats should not get any bonuses, any bonuses should be agreed with the government for all non directors etc.

The amount of public money that is wasted every year by local councils and the government is unbelievable, look at expenses row, how much is that worth over the last 5 years? 10 million? 25 million? 50 million?

I'm not saying i have every answer but a touch of realism is needed, this country has had it, if we dont do something soon it will get very, very worse!
#32
u cant overly tax the rich...whats the incentive in working hard then?
1 Like #33
No your policies are completely flawed, the prisons are overcrowded as it is, which leaves you two choices, build more prisons (of course the tax payer would front this bill and the cost of looking after the lags) or become more lenient on other crimes.

Military service - I don't know what everyone's obsession with this is, I want people in the military to want to be there, to want to protect our country. I served in the military the thing that makes ours one of the best is you can guarantee that everyone you serve with wants to be there and will do their job properly. You start getting people who are forced to be there and the level of trust for you oppos will drop. Also who is going to pay them £1200 pcm, again the tax payer, i'd rather them being on £45 pw.

Where is this 50% discount for mortgages gong to come from? That's right the tax payer again.

Why does child benefit need to be increased? It's just something else for the tax payer to pay.

Yes you can cap the bank directors salaries but that's going to be a big loss of tax again. it's OK though as you can increase the rates everyone else pays to make up for it.

Lets not let any immigrants in either, it's not as if a good % of the Doctors for instance who come here are from abroad. You seem to be tarnishing them all with the same brush, a lot of immigrant come here respect our country and work hard for their living.
#34
[email protected]
1. Some of the most needed workers in this country are foreign. Your 'policy' is borderline racist.
2. How do you decide if they are 'signing on' if the instant they do they are forced into the military? Military service is not, by definition, a positive thing.You would also need to pay these new, and unneeded, soldiers a salary.
3. I can agree that people that decide not to work - not ilness etc related - should do volunteer work etc. How you'd police this is another question - you cannot FORCE people to work. Prison isn't an option when you consider the cost of support the offspring of these people.
4. And leave them unable to make payment in three years? Real world calling.
5. And give up the tax income from these sales? People buying £250k homes are not the ones that need government money.
6. This is already being done.
7. Why? Seems to me that there is little money to be distributing based on the number of children that somebody has. Why not look at discouraging the reproduction of people unable to support their children without government assistance?
8. Puh. You want a communist state where competition is limited by the state or is this a knee-jerk reaction to something you feel is unjust?
9. And then put these people where? BTW - 12 months seems a little pathetic for carrying a knife or drink driving...

Enough of the 'I could fix the country' speak - these ideas are simply a reaction to the injustice that you are aware of - there is much that you're not and your responses would do nothing to solve anything.

Try limiting the income of criminals through the legalisation of ALL drugs - crippling drug communities incomes and providing valuable tax income. Or perhaps enabling the UK to be less dependant on fossil fuels by encouraging use of cycles and funding scientific investigation into alternatives...

As always, 'Lock 'em up' attitudes fail.


:thumbsup: Rep'd!
#35
RedIron
No your policies are completely flawed, the prisons are overcrowded as it is, which leaves you two choices, build more prisons (of course the tax payer would front this bill and the cost of looking after the lags) or become more lenient on other crimes.

Military service - I don't know what everyone's obsession with this is, I want people in the military to want to be there, to want to protect our country. I served in the military the thing that makes ours one of the best is you can guarantee that everyone you serve with wants to be there and will do their job properly. You start getting people who are forced to be there and the level of trust for you oppos will drop. Also who is going to pay them £1200 pcm, again the tax payer, i'd rather them being on £45 pw.

Where is this 50% discount for mortgages gong to come from? That's right the tax payer again.

Why does child benefit need to be increased? It's just something else for the tax payer to pay.

Yes you can cap the bank directors salaries but that's going to be a big loss of tax again. it's OK though as you can increase the rates everyone else pays to make up for it.

Lets not let any immigrants in either, it's not as if a good % of the Doctors for instance who come here are from abroad. You seem to be tarnishing them all with the same brush, a lot of immigrant come here respect our country and work hard for their living.


good stuff!"
#36
ifyoudontask?
Firstly, all money lost from stamp duty under £250K would be very little but it would help the housing market steady at a realistic level.

It's a vast amount of money.

ifyoudontask

Taxing the rich would be the obvious answer but not the only solution, more green energy is a huge area that is just not being utilised yet.

And force 'the rich' to run companies abroad where they are taxed less? Moving vital industry and expertise AWAY from the UK? Top plan!

ifyoudontask

The knock on effect of having strict jail time for offenders will lower the re-offender rate and act as more of a deterant for commiting the crime in the first place. This should lower the overall prisoner numbers.

Or we could look at the statistics. People do not stop commiting crime based on the sentence because no criminal presumes that they will be caught - so, whether there is a sentence of 10 years or 6 months it doesn't matter. All the sociological studies support this.

ifyoudontask

Asking mothers to go back to work early decreases the contact with the child and decreases the jobs available.

Wah? Unemployment going down? NOOOO!!! Perhaps the mothers will learn valuable work skills and feel positive about supporting their children themselves rather than relying on government money?

ifyoudontask


Big banking cats should not get any bonuses, any bonuses should be agreed with the government for all non directors etc.

Why? Your jealousy?

ifyoudontask

The amount of public money that is wasted every year by local councils and the government is unbelievable, look at expenses row, how much is that worth over the last 5 years? 10 million? 25 million? 50 million?


Exactly confirming my point - you don't know but you do assume that it's a lot because you are angry. Concentrate on things that matter.
#37
RedIron
No your policies are completely flawed, the prisons are overcrowded as it is, which leaves you two choices, build more prisons (of course the tax payer would front this bill and the cost of looking after the lags) or become more lenient on other crimes.

Military service - I don't know what everyone's obsession with this is, I want people in the military to want to be there, to want to protect our country. I served in the military the thing that makes ours one of the best is you can guarantee that everyone you serve with wants to be there and will do their job properly. You start getting people who are forced to be there and the level of trust for you oppos will drop. Also who is going to pay them £1200 pcm, again the tax payer, i'd rather them being on £45 pw.

Where is this 50% discount for mortgages gong to come from? That's right the tax payer again.

Why does child benefit need to be increased? It's just something else for the tax payer to pay.

Yes you can cap the bank directors salaries but that's going to be a big loss of tax again. it's OK though as you can increase the rates everyone else pays to make up for it.

Lets not let any immigrants in either, it's not as if a good % of the Doctors for instance who come here are from abroad. You seem to be tarnishing them all with the same brush, a lot of immigrant come here respect our country and work hard for their living.


Good Stuff there! :thumbsup:
#38

1) Close all borders to immigrants, refugees and asylum seekers indefinitely. [COLOR=seagreen]My family are all native to Guatamala, so.. bad.[/COLOR]

2) Have mandatory military service for all school leavers who sign on and do not go into employment or further study. [COLOR=seagreen]I'm about to leave school, and want to sign on to JSA... bad[/COLOR]

3) Anyone claiming unemployment benefit for more than 12 months would be forced to either enter military service or become government employed and trained to do jobs in return for their benefit money, such as community service: resurfacing roads, gardening community areas etc. [COLOR=seagreen]I plan to claim JSA for at least 5 years... bad[/COLOR]

4) I would give all first time home buyers 50% discount on their mortgage repayments for 3 years under £200K. [COLOR=seagreen]The house I plan to buy costs £251K so... bad[/COLOR]

5) I would abolish stamp duty on all homes bought under £250K[COLOR=seagreen] as above[/COLOR]

6) I would abolish the MPs expenses system. [COLOR=seagreen]My parents plan to become MP's when they claim asylum, so.. bad[/COLOR]

7) I would increase all child benefit. [COLOR=seagreen]I plan to have 17 children, so... Great![/COLOR]

8) I would cap all bank directors salaries and prevent any bonuses to be paid to any bank employee in the UK without government approval first based on company performance. [COLOR=seagreen]pleh.[/COLOR]

9) I would give strict guidelines on crime and punishment, e.g.: Caught carrying a knife = 12 months in Prison, Caught carrying a fire arm = 5 years in prison, Drunk driving = 12 months in prison, driving with no licence = 12 months in prison, Joyriding = 12 months in prison, etc.[COLOR=seagreen] I live a life of crime, so... bad[/COLOR]


[COLOR=#2e8b57]All in all, I would not vote for you, but good luck in the elections :)[/COLOR]
banned#39
Surely there must also be policies about increasing our 'living room' so that the fatherland can grow.
#40
FilthAndFurry
Surely there must also be policies about increasing our 'living room' so that the fatherland can grow.


Now that's a policy I can march behind!

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