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would you work for £4.32 an hour?

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9y, 2m agoPosted 9 years, 2 months ago
ive got this problem, i work for a tiny company who have 2 websites, 1 shop and a couple of taxies. my job is/was part time
now my job was web developer when i started back in March.. since then things have changed alot. my job now entails working all aspects of running the shop, taxies, contracts, suppliers, bringing work home cos i have to run the flipping ebay shop to,and maintain the websites, my boss expects me to be as dedicated to the job as he is. they dont have enough money most weeks to pay me on a friday so i wait until the monday, they also have no way of paying suppliers, and now the websites are starting to bring in sales i cant order them cos i cant pay for them.
i used to get the bus to work, but now as they have a school contract in my area i get a lift to work which saves me £20 in bus fairs. so over the last 3 weeks ive worked an extra 7 - 10 hours a week ( i worked the school run as a carer) for the same pathetic wage £5.35. so when i work it out to the hours i work i get paid £4.32
i used to like the job but now im just resentful..
i dont have another job to go to yet, so i dont know if i should just ride it out till they get more money and hope i get a pay rise or jack it in tomorrow.

sorry to go on a bit there..lol
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9y, 2m agoPosted 9 years, 2 months ago
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1 Like #1
If you enjoy your job maybe you should just wait for a few weeks and in this time look for any other jobs that interest you and think of how likely you are of getting them. Then ask for boss for either a pay rise or if you can work less hours with less responsibilities, if he gets rid of you then just go for some of the other jobs, if not then you've got what you want. Hope this helps but it does seem as though you are in a tricky predicament.
1 Like #2
Sounds like a very fragile set up. As you don't appear to have any obligation to stay with the company - unless it suits your personnal circumstances, i would jump ship as soon as you have replacement employment. It seems a bit of a ramshackle arrangement - too much diversity and robbing Peter to pay Paul - move on... -
1 Like #3
I worked at woolies at £4.35 an hour as i was only 17 at the time working 42 hours a week didnt amount to much so i get where your coming from although my job was very monotonous and simple

I suggest talking to your boss and explaining that this extra workload deserves a wage increase if he says no quit - life short and if you dont like the job anymore - quit - best feeling ever
1 Like #4
They sound a very unstable unprofessional tin pot outfit to me, not knowing if you are going to definitely get paid would worry me silly and for the wages you earn you should definitely not be expected to put in unpaid overtime.
1 Like #5
Sounds like you're doing far too much for far too little money!
#6
vinylandtrinkets
ive got this problem, ..

my job is/was part timenow my job was web developer when i started back in March..

since then my job now entails working all aspects of running the shop, taxies, contracts, suppliers,

bringing work home cos i have to run the flipping ebay shop to,and maintain the websites,


sorry to go on a bit there..lol


And if you go who will do all of this :thinking:

You get paid weekly, so give a weeks notice and then see what happens.

Sounds like your job is all give and take - you give and he takes :giggle:


Tell him you don't need all this hassle as that was not the terms of the original job offer and you could earn more money and more respect working in Maccie D's and that you would have more time to yourself. 1 Weeks notice.... goodbye :thumbsup:

Plenty of work around if you want to work for the minimum wage :w00t:
#7
It's illegal to descriminate & not hire someone due to a disability... I wouldn't mention too much about it in your applications/CV... Focus on your strong points (sounds like you have a lot of them!) and then when it comes round to an interview you can discuss issues about your disability... Most places have a disability descrimination act where disabled people automatically get an interview anyway...

Best of luck to you! xx
#8
I had presumed you must be 16/17 when you mentioned your wages.

Not sure how many jobs you have had previous to this but I can assure you it's not the normal way employers would treat you, sounds like they have been taking advantage of you for far too long.

Best of luck in finding alternative employment.
#9
vinylandtrinkets
thanks sadiebabes and crazy1 i had 30 interviews which i am qualified for and this was the only one i got, due to my disability



Gosh, that is absolutely shocking! Did they openly tell you it was due to your disability?
#10
vinylandtrinkets
thanks sadiebabes and crazy1 i had 30 interviews which i am qualified for and this was the only one i got, due to my disability


People shouldn't discriminate against people with disabilities. :thinking: I hope that you situation turns out good and you get to where you want to be and thanks for the rep, just keep us posted on what you decide to do:thumbsup:
#11
Have you ever thought of setting your own internet business up? - Sounds like you have most of the skills in place already, I am sure there would be government grants available to you (not just because of your disability).
#12
Discrimination against applicants and employees (1) It is unlawful for an employer to discriminate against a disabled person—
(a) in the arrangements which he makes for the purpose of determining to whom he should offer employment;
(b) in the terms on which he offers that person employment; or
(c) by refusing to offer, or deliberately not offering, him employment.

(more info - here)
vinylandtrinkets
a few did( off the record of course)

I'm so sorry, that's absolutely awful :-(
#13
Out of interest, and assuming that you are happy to divulge such information, what is your disability?
#14
vinylandtrinkets
Sadies.. you get used to after the first 10 or so. i think this time round i wont even mention it in my applications.
it would be great if i had the proof on the record as to why some companies wont employ disabled people.
The one that get my goat is 4 of the jobs were with my local council ( who are in the local paper again this week about how great they are with disabled staff) rubbish!

Talking of jobs - ive been unemployed since june and have applied at numerous companies bt none have the decency to reply
But theres hope i joined a job agency and i applied for a job in the home office in croydon - admin etc

Im currently awaiting a security check which should be fine and hopefully i will get this as im so sick of being stuck at home

But its been 4weeks and im told it can take anything up to 6
banned#15
vinylandtrinkets
ive got this problem, i work for a tiny company who have 2 websites, 1 shop and a couple of taxies. my job is/was part time
now my job was web developer when i started back in March.. since then things have changed alot........
sorry to go on a bit there..lol


I certainly wouldnt jack it in until you have another job to go to. It sounds very much like you are being exploited and I wouldnt hold out too much hope of things changing. It would appear that paying wages of that level and expecting free overtime, isnt ever going to be someone who could be regarded as a good employer.

Obviously you havent mentioned your disability and as others have said, you must concentrate on your strong points. Just keep plugging away, Im sure things will turn out ok.

Good luck
banned#16
vinylandtrinkets
Sadies.. you get used to after the first 10 or so. i think this time round i wont even mention it in my applications.
it would be great if i had the proof on the record as to why some companies wont employ disabled people.
The one that get my goat is 4 of the jobs were with my local council ( who are in the local paper again this week about how great they are with disabled staff) rubbish!


I'd write a letter into your local paper pointing that out! You've nothing to lose - and maybe they'll have a re-think. It should make you feel better seeing it published anyway!!!
#17
good for you and good luck.
#18
vinylandtrinkets
quick update. after chatting to you on here last night i starting applying for jobs, so far i have one interview lined up ( and one overseas which id love to take) so fingers crossed and wish me luck guys and thanks again


Good luck!!! :thumbsup:
#19
Good Luck. Let us know how you get on.:thumbsup:
#20
sadiebabes
It's illegal to descriminate & not hire someone due to a disability... I wouldn't mention too much about it in your applications/CV... Focus on your strong points (sounds like you have a lot of them!) and then when it comes round to an interview you can discuss issues about your disability... Most places have a disability descrimination act where disabled people automatically get an interview anyway...Best of luck to you! xx


This type of tinpot business don't think any laws like this apply to them....and they seem to get away with it.

I hope you get something else soon, you deserve better
#21
vinylandtrinkets
quick update. after chatting to you on here last night i starting applying for jobs, so far i have one interview lined up ( and one overseas which id love to take) so fingers crossed and wish me luck guys and thanks again

Great news and good luck :thumbsup: :-D
I'm really sorry to hear about your Medical Problems. :-(
#22
vinylandtrinkets
thanks guys. it is an odd outfit, it does suit my circumstances and im 37 years old so the £4.32 is way below minimum wage.


Wow thats awful, I suppose they get away with it because by the book you work self employed or some such rubbish, Just disgraceful. :x

If your disability doesn't affect the job I wouldn't mention it, because they will only think you'll be wanting loads of time off, best of luck finding a job, even the minimum wage is £5.35 odd .
#23
Iom-RF
Wow thats awful, I suppose they get away with it because by the book you work self employed or some such rubbish, Just disgraceful. :x

If your disability doesn't affect the job I wouldn't mention it, because they will only think you'll be wanting loads of time off, best of luck finding a job, even the minimum wage is £5.35 odd .

Is that over 21 or over 18?
#24
dandoc2
Is that over 21 or over 18?


http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/nmw/

£5.35 per hour for workers aged 22 years and older


Although I was actually meaning 18 originally, i'm working on IOM rates :oops:

http://www.gov.im/dti/employmentRights/minimumwage.xml

A worker aged 18 years or over - £5.40


Damn I feel lucky, not wishing to rub it in, but I can earn upto 8K without being taxed compared to the UK's measly 4k too! :o
#25
vinylandtrinkets
quick update. after chatting to you on here last night i starting applying for jobs, so far i have one interview lined up ( and one overseas which id love to take) so fingers crossed and wish me luck guys and thanks again


That's fantastic vinylandtrinkets :) I wish you the veryyy best of luck! :-D xx
#26
vinylandtrinkets
thanks sadiebabes and crazy1 i had 30 interviews which i am qualified for and this was the only one i got, due to my disability.


That is an absolute disgrace!!.:x Keep firing out the CV's and I hope you get the job you want...soon!! I am sure there are plenty of 'decent' employers out there!!

Also paying you well below the minimum wage is not on!! Does your employer think he is doing you a favour?? Not on I am afraid. Keep at it V&T and let everyone know how you get on.
#27
vinylandtrinkets
quick update. after chatting to you on here last night i starting applying for jobs, so far i have one interview lined up ( and one overseas which id love to take) so fingers crossed and wish me luck guys and thanks again

Sorry V&T...got pretty annoyed when started reading your thread...had a premature reply...Hope everything goes ok and if you dont get the first job - keep firing out the CV's!!:thumbsup:
#28
Iom-RF
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/nmw/



Although I was actually meaning 18 originally, i'm working on IOM rates :oops:

http://www.gov.im/dti/employmentRights/minimumwage.xml



Damn I feel lucky, not wishing to rub it in, but I can earn upto 8K without being taxed compared to the UK's measly 4k too! :o

Min age for 18-21 is £4.45 which is awful
#29
I remember when I got my first job when I turned 17... £2.75 an hour at Lloyds :giggle:
#30
sadiebabes
I remember when I got my first job when I turned 17... £2.75 an hour at Lloyds :giggle:

My friends girlfriend lives in canada and shes on like $3.50 an hour which is like £1.75 but then it is a pizza shop
#31
My first job paid £2.85 per hour... making fried breakfasts in Tesco. Bleak.

Finding an understanding employer, despite all the PC red tape, can be very difficult. Unfortunately, the hospitality industry is notoriously underpaid with incredibly long hours :-(

I hope your interviews go well!
#32
My first weekend job paid 1.98 an hour working in focus DIY in 1996. Which was poor even back then. But it was only around the corner, so I stuck it out. After a year it was £3.80, which was a lot better. I managed two years there until I left for university. Looking back I don't know how as I hated it.
#33
Awww look at all of us sounding old...lol :p

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