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Woy Hodgson does not believe any other manager could get more out of the Liverpool team given current resources.

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5y, 11m agoPosted 5 years, 11 months ago
I disagree Woy.
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Woy

Edited By: Adam2050 on Dec 15, 2010 09:49
banned#2
SAF could. and you know it. and Big Sam.
#3
Woy is a fool & must be shown the door. His negative tactics show what an incompetent manager he is......especially away from home !!!
1 Like #4
vibeone
SAF could. and you know it. and Big Sam.

Don't know about the second but the first without any question.
banned#5
Roy is a good manager. Apart from 3, he's working with a poor players.
#6
Bad show Ad :(

After the hammering he got in the ridiculous phone-in on LFC.TV the other night, I reckon he'll be gone after the Blackpool game.

I'd stick with him until the end of the season, and give hime chance to turn things around.
#7
lolz @ Woy....! u're mean!
#8
midlandscomics
Bad show Ad :(After the hammering he got in the ridiculous phone-in on LFC.TV the other night, I reckon he'll be gone after the Blackpool game.I'd stick with him until the end of the season, and give hime chance to turn things around.

Well he ain't going to improve as we won't be signing anyone in Jan. They pretty much said that, I think they may well stick with him until they can find someone else.
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Adam2050
midlandscomics
Bad show Ad :(After the hammering he got in the ridiculous phone-in on LFC.TV the other night, I reckon he'll be gone after the Blackpool game.I'd stick with him until the end of the season, and give hime chance to turn things around.


Well he ain't going to improve as we won't be signing anyone in Jan. They pretty much said that, I think they may well stick with him until they can find someone else.


We'll be signing plenty in Jan :) Why would they show their hand now, pushing up the price of the players we go after.

After the abuse he got on the show, I'm certain it's given the owners a completely different view on Roy. I think they're just waiting for the right moment now, and the tricky away game at Blackpool (can't believe I just said that oO) could well be that moment.

A win there could turn it around though
#10
midlandscomics
Adam2050
midlandscomics
Bad show Ad :(After the hammering he got in the ridiculous phone-in on LFC.TV the other night, I reckon he'll be gone after the Blackpool game.I'd stick with him until the end of the season, and give hime chance to turn things around.
Well he ain't going to improve as we won't be signing anyone in Jan. They pretty much said that, I think they may well stick with him until they can find someone else.
We'll be signing plenty in Jan :) Why would they show their hand now, pushing up the price of the players we go after. After the abuse he got on the show, I'm certain it's given the owners a completely different view on Roy. I think they're just waiting for the right moment now, and the tricky away game at Blackpool (can't believe I just said that oO) could well be that moment.A win there could turn it around though

They kept banging on about the summer though for signings, really can't see us spending big cash in Jan.
banned#11
Adam2050
vibeone
SAF could. and you know it. and Big Sam.


Don't know about the second but the first without any question.


Big Sam can get something from poor players. Did it at Bolton, did it at Blackburn. Wouldn't be popular, wouldn't be pretty football, but my point was that he'd prob get more from them than Woy.
#12
vibeone
Adam2050
vibeone
SAF could. and you know it. and Big Sam.
Don't know about the second but the first without any question.
Big Sam can get something from poor players. Did it at Bolton, did it at Blackburn. Wouldn't be popular, wouldn't be pretty football, but my point was that he'd prob get more from them than Woy.

Could be true, and hopefully I will never know.
#13
Swoop for maradona before blackburn do lol
#14
MinstrelMan
Swoop for maradona before blackburn do lol

Lol
#15
vibeone
Adam2050
vibeone
SAF could. and you know it. and Big Sam.


Don't know about the second but the first without any question.


Big Sam can get something from poor players. Did it at Bolton, did it at Blackburn. Wouldn't be popular, wouldn't be pretty football, but my point was that he'd prob get more from them than Woy.


I don't know to be honest. Rafa couldn't get anything from them last season, and Roy has struggled to this season - I can't see any manager who is available who would be able to turn things around quickly. King Kenny will be the obvious choice if Roy goes, and he'd give the whole of Anfield a big boost, but there's no guarantee that he'd turn our form around.



Edited By: midlandscomics on Dec 15, 2010 10:17
#16
MinstrelMan
Swoop for maradona before blackburn do lol


He's probably the only person fat enough to fill the big seat at Ewood.
#17
Surely you have to give him untill the end of the season, this season is a write off anyway so they need to give the guy a chance. No one is going to turn Liverpool round in 3-4 months after the mess he was left with. Anyway who on earth do they think they are going to get in if KD doesn't do it and I reckon that would be a disastrous move.
Looking at Inter I'd say Roy isn't doing too badly with what he was left with.
Funny how we used to luagh at the big spanish clubs years ago when they used to get through a manager every 6-9 months, look at the premiership now it's going the same way. Insane.
#18
I want rid of him too but I'm really not sure who NESV can get to replace him in their 'Grand Plan'. There are shouts of Rijkaard and maybe Deschamps or anyone else but I want a manager passionate about getting Liverpool where they belong.
King Kenny is and will be a legend but we need someone younger.
#19
greg_68
Surely you have to give him untill the end of the season, this season is a write off anyway so they need to give the guy a chance. No one is going to turn Liverpool round in 3-4 months after the mess he was left with. Anyway who on earth do they think they are going to get in if KD doesn't do it and I reckon that would be a disastrous move.
Looking at Inter I'd say Roy isn't doing too badly with what he was left with.
Funny how we used to luagh at the big spanish clubs years ago when they used to get through a manager every 6-9 months, look at the premiership now it's going the same way. Insane.


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There are no out of work managers out there who I'd take over Roy at the moment. King Kenny would be great, but there's no guarantee he'd be a success, and the owners want to build for the long-term.

I can see them going after someone like Owen Coyle in the summer.
banned#20
sufchenko
I want rid of him too but I'm really not sure who NESV can get to replace him in their 'Grand Plan'. There are shouts of Rijkaard and maybe Deschamps or anyone else but I want a manager passionate about getting Liverpool where they belong.


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#21
tbf to Roy they got off to a really bad start and have improved since then to a point where I'd say they are no worse than last season. Given Roy and Liverpool's position he not going to start playing all out attacking football at this early stage of his Anfield career, he is going to steady the ship, get a good back line in place and then work forward. Fans are asking too much of clubs/managers these days and expect every team to be playing like Arseanal / Chelsea and anything less is a failure. Fans need to realise where there club truly lies in the pecking order and Liverpool would be around 6-8th IMO. So anywhere around that is a true reflection of their status.
#22
Owen Coyle is not a big team manager.
#23
Adam2050
Owen Coyle is not a big team manager.


lol Adam, get it into your head Liverpool are no longer a big team so they don't need a big team manager.

Edited By: greg_68 on Dec 15, 2010 10:27
#24
greg_68
tbf to Roy they got off to a really bad start and have improved since then to a point where I'd say they are no worse than last season. Given Roy and Liverpool's position he not going to start playing all out attacking football at this early stage of his Anfield career, he is going to steady the ship, get a good back line in place and then work forward. Fans are asking too much of clubs/managers these days and expect every team to be playing like Arseanal / Chelsea and anything less is a failure. Fans need to realise where there club truly lies in the pecking order and Liverpool would be around 6-8th IMO. So anywhere around that is a true reflection of their status.


On paper I'd say we have the 6th best squad in the Premier League. On current form we haven't. I think Europa League qualification should be a realistic target this year. If any of our 'stars' don't want to stay in the summer because that's all we achieve, then fine.
#25
Adam2050
Owen Coyle is not a big team manager.


Why? Has he ever failed at a big team? Sometimes you need to give a young, determined manager a go. You never know.....it might just work :)
banned#26
midlandscomics

On paper I'd say we have the 6th best squad in the Premier League. On current form we haven't. I think Europa League qualification should be a realistic target this year. If any of our 'stars' don't want to stay in the summer because that's all we achieve, then fine.


Who are the 5 clubs above (and in what order)
#27
greg_68
Adam2050
Owen Coyle is not a big team manager.
lol Adam, get it into your head Liverpool are no longer a big team so they don't need a big team manager.

Errr? Sorry yes they are (Big Club). You don't go in two seasons from being second and challanging to mid table team without some major loss, we lost Alonso as Mascherno was no big loss, we are stuck in a rut with a negative team structure and a negative tacticion an out of form Gerrard and an out of form Torres, two massive players, Carragher is injured and let's not let slip that the World cup was played this year which is why the Premier League is so close this year.
#28
guv
midlandscomics

On paper I'd say we have the 6th best squad in the Premier League. On current form we haven't. I think Europa League qualification should be a realistic target this year. If any of our 'stars' don't want to stay in the summer because that's all we achieve, then fine.


Who are the 5 clubs above (and in what order)


Seriously....

1. Spurs
2. Man City
3. Man Utd
4. Chelsea
5. Arsenal

Not saying they're the best 'teams' in order, but if you put their playing squads down on paper I'd list them like that. But then current form comes in to it and I'd put Man City above you then, and Chelsea fifth.
#29
midlandscomics
guv
midlandscomics
On paper I'd say we have the 6th best squad in the Premier League. On current form we haven't. I think Europa League qualification should be a realistic target this year. If any of our 'stars' don't want to stay in the summer because that's all we achieve, then fine.
Who are the 5 clubs above (and in what order)
Seriously....1. Spurs2. Man City3. Man Utd4. Chelsea5. ArsenalNot saying they're the best 'teams' in order, but if you put their playing squads down on paper I'd list them like that. But then current form comes in to it and I'd put Man City above you then, and Chelsea fifth.

On paper he's right though lets face it City are full of Mercs.
#30
A big club to me is one that regularly pushes for the title, does well year after year in the ECL and wins a regular domestic cup. Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal fall into this catagory. Liverpool do not and have not for a long time.
banned#31
greg_68
A big club to me is one that regularly pushes for the title, does well year after year in the ECL and wins a regular domestic cup. Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal fall into this catagory. Liverpool do not and have not for a long time.


Ars*nal winning trophies? WTF!!!!
#32
greg_68
A big club to me is one that regularly pushes for the title, does well year after year in the ECL and wins a regular domestic cup. Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal fall into this catagory. Liverpool do not and have not for a long time.

LOL Arsenal who haven't won anything for what 5 years or so?

Liverpool were pushing for the title for a couple of years and won a champions league also got to another final. (talking past 6 years)

SO suddenly according to your theory there no longer a big club. No sense sorry, Papers have convinced you well.

Liverpool have had one poor season last year and if we don't turn things around in the next few games a second bad season.
#33
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greg_68
A big club to me is one that regularly pushes for the title, does well year after year in the ECL and wins a regular domestic cup. Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal fall into this catagory. Liverpool do not and have not for a long time.
Ars*nal winning trophies? WTF!!!!

Indeed must of been in the Telegraph or something
1 Like #34
greg_68
A big club to me is one that regularly pushes for the title, does well year after year in the ECL and wins a regular domestic cup. Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal fall into this catagory. Liverpool do not and have not for a long time.


It's a tricky one. If you get rid of our history, then over the last 10 years we'd be an over-performing top eight club. However, because we're Liverpool we expect to be up there, and in most eyes are still classed as a big club (albeit under-performing).

I suppose there comes a point that past glories don't make you a top name though.... would you still call Leeds or Forest or Everton a 'big' club??
#35
Squad wise I always use the gauge of who in your team if become available at a reasonable cost would get into the teams above you. For Liverpool I would think Reina, Gerrard and Torres. The further you go up the league the more players they have that would be wanted. I would agree that squad wise you are around 6th and this is my point I think Liverpool fans have the opinion that you should be higher even though your squad suggests otherwise.
Would Liverpool fans be happy with 6th this season?
#36
greg_68
Squad wise I always use the gauge of who in your team if become available at a reasonable cost would get into the teams above you. For Liverpool I would think Reina, Gerrard and Torres. The further you go up the league the more players they have that would be wanted. I would agree that squad wise you are around 6th and this is my point I think Liverpool fans have the opinion that you should be higher even though your squad suggests otherwise.Would Liverpool fans be happy with 6th this season?

Who said anything about sqaud, are squad isn't as good as the other five atm, but I wouldn't compare it too the lower boys. We are lacking in major creativity atm and another striker imo, then all of a sudden we go on a little run and people will shut up again.
#37
midlandscomics
greg_68
A big club to me is one that regularly pushes for the title, does well year after year in the ECL and wins a regular domestic cup. Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal fall into this catagory. Liverpool do not and have not for a long time.


It's a tricky one. If you get rid of our history, then over the last 10 years we'd be an over-performing top eight club. However, because we're Liverpool we expect to be up there, and in most eyes are still classed as a big club (albeit under-performing).

I suppose there comes a point that past glories don't make you a top name though.... would you still call Leeds or Forest or Everton a 'big' club??


Exactly, spot on. Still classed as a big club by some but in reality I don't think they are now, yes they were butnot in recent times.
#38
greg_68
Squad wise I always use the gauge of who in your team if become available at a reasonable cost would get into the teams above you. For Liverpool I would think Reina, Gerrard and Torres. The further you go up the league the more players they have that would be wanted. I would agree that squad wise you are around 6th and this is my point I think Liverpool fans have the opinion that you should be higher even though your squad suggests otherwise.
Would Liverpool fans be happy with 6th this season?


Most probably woudn't, but I would. If we can get European qualification and close the current 9-point gap to the top four I'll be happy.
#39
Adam2050
greg_68
Squad wise I always use the gauge of who in your team if become available at a reasonable cost would get into the teams above you. For Liverpool I would think Reina, Gerrard and Torres. The further you go up the league the more players they have that would be wanted. I would agree that squad wise you are around 6th and this is my point I think Liverpool fans have the opinion that you should be higher even though your squad suggests otherwise.Would Liverpool fans be happy with 6th this season?


Who said anything about sqaud, are squad isn't as good as the other five atm, but I wouldn't compare it too the lower boys. We are lacking in major creativity atm and another striker imo, then all of a sudden we go on a little run and people will shut up again.


Spot on, you do not have the right players yet blame the manager who hasn't been given the ridiculous amounts to waste that Rafa was. Another couple of good results and yes you be knocking on European spots so why do you need to get rid of the manager. Give him time and a quarter of what Rafa was given and you will be up there in the top 3-6. Sacking a manager after 3-4 months when he has had very little input inot the current team is just ludictous.
#40
midlandscomics
greg_68
Squad wise I always use the gauge of who in your team if become available at a reasonable cost would get into the teams above you. For Liverpool I would think Reina, Gerrard and Torres. The further you go up the league the more players they have that would be wanted. I would agree that squad wise you are around 6th and this is my point I think Liverpool fans have the opinion that you should be higher even though your squad suggests otherwise.Would Liverpool fans be happy with 6th this season?
Most probably woudn't, but I would. If we can get European qualification and close the current 9-point gap to the top four I'll be happy.

Not going to happen unless Roy realises he can't play long ball agains't big power teams, like at Newcastle we got served because he should of been playing through them.

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