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Please could you help ? Anyway i bought an xbox 360 and it has been fine no probs . Recently i tried to Xmen Wolverine and the console is recognising it as a dvd . I thiught it must be a bad burn di… Read More
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8y, 1m agoPosted 8 years, 1 month ago
Please could you help ? Anyway i bought an xbox 360 and it has been fine no probs . Recently i tried to Xmen Wolverine and the console is recognising it as a dvd . I thiught it must be a bad burn did this twice with Verbatim discs . Recently tried to play the Ufc game and the sme result . My question is my firmware not new enough to play the latest games and if so what is the solution as i really wanna play this new game . My firmware is 1.5 . Rep will be given thanks
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8y, 1m agoPosted 8 years, 1 month ago
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1 Like #1
You'll need to get your firmware updated to at least 1.51 / 1.6 (Hitachi drives are still at 1.51). If you don't know how to do this, you're better off getting someone to do it for you.
1 Like #2
There is a patch out that you can patch all the latest games with to work on the older firmwares, its recommended not to play on live but hasnt caused me any probs yet
#3
Xb0xGuru
You'll need to get your firmware updated to at least 1.51 / 1.6 (Hitachi drives are still at 1.51). If you don't know how to do this, you're better off getting someone to do it for you.


Hi thanks for your reply . Is there no easy way to upgrade the firmware?
#4
Is there any need to mention whom you bought it from on here, its like you are blaming him if people just quickly skim over the post.
#5
It sounds like it wasn't upgraded to firmware 1.5 even though he told you it was?

You can get it flashed for about £20, check gumtree etc
#6
rwm24
It sounds like it wasn't upgraded to firmware 1.5 even though he told you it was?

You can get it flashed for about £20, check gumtree etc


iXtreme 1.5 didn't support Wave 3 games - it was only supported from 1.51 onwards.

Tay1982 - 1.6 blocks falsely patched games so bear this in mind should you ever need to upgrade the firmware.
#7
Xb0xGuru
Even original wave 3 games won't work on custom firmware less than 1.51. This has nothing to do with bad burns.



Not true [well not exactly]

All my W3 originals & backups / hawx / stormrise/ bionic commando work fine on my 360 with custom firmware less than 1.51


For i-xtreme firmwares correct - for previous gen not
#8
dontasciime
Not true [well not exactly]

All my W3 originals & backups / hawx / stormrise/ bionic commando work fine on my 360 with custom firmware less than 1.51


For i-xtreme firmwares correct - for previous gen not


I was referring to iXtreme firmware, since a majority of people will have Lite-On drives now and there's nothing other than this available for it!
#9
:thumbsup:which is why I said for ixtreme yes but when custom firmware is typed there are loads.

Dunno how the majority have liteons .. there are like 4 drives before that surely those will be majority longer time on sale. ?

Can you not use ixtreme on samsung drives and previous ?

I can see that for liteon drives there is no other choice but was unaware the OP was using a liteon drive

Anyways more a post to mention in passing to others that previous gen(non ixtreme) firmwares are able to boot CDIMAGE 2.45 aka 3rd wave
#10
dontasciime
:thumbsup:which is why I said for ixtreme yes but when custom firmware is typed there are loads.

Dunno how the majority have liteons .. there are like 4 drives before that surely those will be majority longer time on sale. ?

Can you not use ixtreme on samsung drives and previous ?

I can see that for liteon drives there is no other choice but was unaware the OP was using a liteon drive

Anyways more a post to mention in passing to others that previous gen(non ixtreme) firmwares are able to boot CDIMAGE 2.45 aka 3rd wave


The reason I reckon a majority of people are going to have Lite-Ons is because MS went through and replaced older drives on units returned for repairs. Knowing the failure rate of the 360 is pretty high, it's got to be the most common one out there now.

Samsungs had previous incarnations of Xtreme (up to 5.3) and Hitachi's up to v2.4. Benq firmware was released as an iXtreme firmware, but it's possible to get a version which doesn't check for ss/pfi/dmi data. All of these mentioned firmwares would be fine for all releases of games, however it needs to be understood these are VERY old firmware versions and should only be used on banned/offline consoles.
#11
yeah offline of course and m$ really should not be replacing on an ethical level or from a financial point of view any ROM drive that is not was not faulty.

Machine goes in for repair and they are sent a Refurb fair enough but replacing drive when there is no need is financial negligence and tbh the failure rate under warranty cannot be as high as everyone seems to think - Its a bit of an urban myth surely "purple monkey dishwasher"

otherwise all 7 of mine would be needing a repair I am not that Lucky :lol
#12
dontasciime
yeah offline of course and m$ really should not be replacing on an ethical level or from a financial point of view any ROM drive that is not was not faulty.

Machine goes in for repair and they are sent a Refurb fair enough but replacing drive when there is no need is financial negligence and tbh the failure rate under warranty cannot be as high as everyone seems to think - Its a bit of an urban myth surely "purple monkey dishwasher"

otherwise all 7 of mine would be needing a repair I am not that Lucky :lol


They can replace the drive if they feel it's in the best interest of the customer - seeing as the Lite-Ons are a far better drive than the predecessors, I would have to agree with this practice.

Yes, the failure rate of the 360 WAS as high as stated (33%), if not higher. Owning 7 working consoles is not proof that the statistics are wrong, just you are very lucky.
#13
Have to disagree M$ do not do kindness, sorry why are the liteons a better drive ? there can be no reason for this. Failure rate of any rom drive is high when under heavy use. Liteon drive is no more suited to reading data that any other so far used for that console. All dvd roms drives can be picky. I own hundreds of them. I test them on a daily basis.

Also if I am not to be counted in the failure rate for 360 console statistics who can ?
#14
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gaming/xbox-360-failure-rate-30-says-retailers-271487.php


seems nonsense taking a failure rate from a retailers point of view. As people return stuff that is meant to be broken when it's not and is [a] user error, [b] user regret [c] any other excuse to get rid pretend its faulty for whatever purpose they are lying for


Extremely hard to actually put an honest figure and to know what / who to believe over any products shortcomings/ faults etc I went through 23 Commodore 64,s because they were on 18 hours + a day when I was bang into coding c64 demo's but no one else seemed to have a faulty one that I knew well maybe 1 or 2
#15
dontasciime
Have to disagree M$ do not do kindness, sorry why are the liteons a better drive ? there can be no reason for this. Failure rate of any rom drive is high when under heavy use. Liteon drive is no more suited to reading data that any other so far used for that console. All dvd roms drives can be picky. I own hundreds of them. I test them on a daily basis.

Also if I am not to be counted in the failure rate for 360 console statistics who can ?


Try playing GTA IV on a Benq with no HDD and you'll see what I mean. The Samsung and Hitachi are both AS good as the Lite-On, but are far noisier in the process. The Lite-on is an excellent combination.

You own hundreds of DVD-ROMs? Why?

Ok - according to you, the failure rate is 0% because you've not had any go wrong. How's that for accuracy?
#16
Xb0xGuru
Try playing GTA IV on a Benq with no HDD and you'll see what I mean. The Samsung and Hitachi are both AS good as the Lite-On, but are far noisier in the process. The Lite-on is an excellent combination.

You own hundreds of DVD-ROMs? Why?

Ok - according to you, the failure rate is 0% because you've not had any go wrong. How's that for accuracy?


Thats not what I said ...

If failure rate was 33% then I would have at least 2 and a half [lol] RROD ones would I not ? (hoping maths is good :Lol) Co's none of mine have RROD does not exclude me from stats on the basis I have been lucky

Having a noisy 12x drive would not make M$ any more likely to replace. It's a determining factor in why they allowed hd installs to cut down on noise .It does not indicate one drive being any more reliable than another.

I own hundreds of ROMS / Writers etc Co's I test them. I also used to beta test/ed a few programs like Craxtion and now mainly ImgBurn which I need roms/writers/media for etc.

No Duplicators here mate.
#17
The liteon drive may well be the best drive for 360 as you have said in any respect and that might be the drive in the 360 I bought last Monday from asda although that seemed to have been made quite a while ago(it was their last one) in sept 2008 dunno what drive is in it yet not opened it either benq or liteon probs. Will find out when sons 360 drive goes off in a few weeks as it's over 3 year old and out of warranty
#18
Xb0xGuru
iXtreme 1.5 didn't support Wave 3 games - it was only supported from 1.51 onwards.


Sorry I meant 1.51, whichever version supports Wave 3.. I know I needed to upgrade to it
#19
dontasciime
Thats not what I said ...

If failure rate was 33% then I would have at least 2 and a half [lol] RROD ones would I not ?


And you TEST things for a living? I hope you don't get paid for the privilege!

No, stat's don't work like that unfortunately. There's more to it than just your own personal experience. You'd need to own at least a million units (approx 1/20th of consoles) to even get a glimpse of a accurate statistic - even that wouldn't be a fair representation:

Speak to those who have had 7 or 8 consoles RRoD - plenty of them out there if you go to the right forums. According to your ideals on stats, it means the failure rate is 100% - yes?
#20
Xb0xGuru
And you TEST things for a living? I hope you don't get paid for the privilege!

No, stat's don't work like that unfortunately. There's more to it than just your own personal experience. You'd need to own at least a million units (approx 1/20th of consoles) to even get a glimpse of a accurate statistic - even that wouldn't be a fair representation:

Speak to those who have had 7 or 8 consoles RRoD - plenty of them out there if you go to the right forums. According to your ideals on stats, it means the failure rate is 100% - yes?




You do not seemed to have grasped the point of statistics mate :lol .. never mind

so what If I was being paid (which I am not) I do it for free. If it was any of your business
#21
dontasciime
You do not seemed to have grasped the point of statistics mate :lol .. never mind

so what If I was being paid (which I am not) I do it for free. If it was any of your business


If I understand you can't base statistics on a single user's experience (which you can't), how am I not grasping the concept? I've no idea how you've come to the conclusion that you MUST have x amount of failed units for the stats to be true.

Paid or not, anything you're testing is worthless if you don't understand basic concepts.
#22
It's simple mate I understand fully and therefore the question is can I be counted in sales of xbox 360 answer is YES is it not ?. (So I am part of the stats ?) Yes/No ?

Can the fact that my 7 xbox 360's have not rrod'ed (yet) be counted towards consoles still working as intended Yes/No ? (so really the answer should be YES so that has to affect the overall stats on hardware failure does it not ?)

In the same way as if all 7 of my 360's FAIL thats goes towards stats that make up the hardware failure rate does it not ? So How am I missing the concept ?

Claiming I am lucky is hardly proving anything.



Paid or not, anything you're testing is worthless if you don't understand basic concepts

And you TEST things for a living? I hope you don't get paid for the privilege!


Thats 2 digs LOL - You misplaced, lost your bridge this morning ?

I can only assume you must be thinking I am saying something different to what you mean
#23
dontasciime
It's simple mate I understand fully and therefore the question is can I be counted in sales of xbox 360 answer is YES is it not ?. (So I am part of the stats ?) Yes/No ?

Can the fact that my 7 xbox 360's have not rrod'ed (yet) be counted towards consoles still working as intended Yes/No ? (so really the answer should be YES so that has to affect the overall stats on hardware failure does it not ?)

In the same way as if all 7 of my 360's FAIL thats goes towards stats that make up the hardware failure rate does it not ? So How am I missing the concept ?

Claiming I am lucky is hardly proving anything.




Thats 2 digs LOL - You misplaced, lost your bridge this morning ?


This is what you said:

If failure rate was 33% then I would have at least 2 and a half [lol] RROD ones would I not ?


The answer is still no. Even if you had one hundred 360s which all worked fine, it still doesn't mean the stats are wrong!

This is getting painful to try and explain to you. I'll leave you to your 'testing' :thinking:
#24
lol its you mate you don't understand percentages

nor english
Even if you had one hundred 360s which all worked fine, it still doesn't mean the stats are wrong!
I never said it did


Right if you have 33% of 100 how much do you have ?

So how is the failure rate worked Out as a percent
#25
If 7 million xbox 360's were sold 33% failed is that 2.31 million that failed ? co's it is in maths
#26
dontasciime
If 7 million xbox 360's were sold 33% failed is that 2.31 million that failed ? co's it is in maths


Yes, that is absolutely right - I've no idea what that has to do with your argument tho.:thumbsup:
#27
bunch of poor cheap skates, why do you need to look for deals if you're stealing software....................


don't bother with the back-up rubbish, thats lies.
#28
Xb0xGuru
Yes, that is absolutely right - I've no idea what that has to do with your argument tho.:thumbsup:



Then by rights if only 7 were sold (my7) and 33% of those failed that would be the 2.31 I was on about earlier (represented) by 2 from my 7

But none of mine have failed (that don't mean I mean a zero 0% rate failure based on my 7 when millions have been sold) but in maths it does if the 7 million sold was the total amount sold by m$ and none of those failed then it would be a zero % fail rate (because if none are faulty) thats what i mean

Me having 7 consoles and none of them failing has to account for some part of the statistics (I am customer who bought 1 or however many) . In the same way as all 7 going off would have to be counted somehow.

having 7 and supposedly 33% failing in maths should mean that 2.31 of mine fail - in maths.

I know what I meant throughout
#29
Alfonse
bunch of poor cheap skates, why do you need to look for deals if you're stealing software....................


don't bother with the back-up rubbish, thats lies.


Wisely chosen avatar
#30
dontasciime
Then by rights if only 7 were sold (my7) and 33% of those failed that would be the 2.31 I was on about earlier (represented) by 2 from my 7

But none of mine have failed (that don't mean I mean a zero 0% rate failure based on my 7 when millions have been sold) but in maths it does if the 7 million sold was the total amount sold by m$ and none of those failed then it would be a zero % fail rate (because if none are faulty) thats what i mean

Me having 7 consoles and none of them failing has to account for some part of the statistics (I am customer who bought 1 or however many) . In the same way as all 7 going off would have to be counted somehow.

having 7 and supposedly 33% failing in maths should mean that 2.31 of mine fail - in maths.

I know what I meant throughout


Yes, up until the last statement.

You *could* say that 33% failure would be *the same as* 2.31 of your 7 consoles failing, but you cannot dispute a statistic purely based on what success/failures your 7 consoles have personally had.

You know when you hear statistics like "every 3 seconds, a child dies of hunger"? This isn't someone with a stopwatch and a shotgun - over the course of a year, x amount of children die which works out 1 every 3 seconds. How many of these children are in the UK? Very few I would imagine. How many children do you personally know have died of hunger? Me - none. This doesn't make the statistic any less true, much the same way as you owning 7 working consoles makes the 33% failure rate any less true.
#31
now multiply that by however many x7

so where does the statistic that 33% fail come from don't say retailers

You *could* say that 33% failure would be *the same as* 2.31 of your 7 consoles failing, but you cannot dispute a statistic purely based on what success/failures your 7 consoles have personally had
you can if only 7 were ever sold which is what i was getting at when i mentioned it surely you can see what I mean /// to me that is not 33% failing if none of my 7 have failed. I disbelieve that story which claims 33% have failed because in my instance that is not accurate. I have my own figures based on 7/33% to prove it which is my point (im sure thats what i initalliy said that i disupted 33% as failure rate cos 33% of my 7 would be 2 RROD in a realtime test if a 3rd was accurate)

So who collates the info and from what criteria if my 7 cannot be included in stats . so you agree you have to include my 7 now in any info gathered to determine failure rate of my 7 +however many more have been sold worldwide and that my 7 + these others make up the % of working or failed.
#32
Anyways you're OP to OP is correct to update firmware and good luck to him.
#33
dontasciime
now multiply that by however many x7

so where does the statistic that 33% fail come from don't say retailers

you can if only 7 were ever sold which is what i was getting at when i mentioned it surely you can see what I mean /// to me that is not 33% failing if none of my 7 have failed. I disbelieve that story which claims 33% have failed because in my instance that is not accurate. I have my own figures based on 7/33% to prove it which is my point (im sure thats what i initalliy said that i disupted 33% as failure rate cos 33% of my 7 would be 2 RROD in a realtime test if a 3rd was accurate)

So who collates the info and from what criteria if my 7 cannot be included in stats . so you agree you have to include my 7 now in any info gathered to determine failure rate of my 7 +however many more have been sold worldwide and that my 7 + these others make up the % of working or failed.


What I can see is that you haven't the foggiest idea about statistics.

Your 7 working consoles fall in the 67% of working units. Well done.

Out of 100 consoles, 33 have been returned as faulty (hint - percent means 'per hundred')

Put all these consoles in a big pile and mix them up.

Pick 7 consoles. They all work. Does this mean there aren't 33 consoles still which are faulty? No - someone else will pick them up.

Pick another 7 consoles. They all fail. Does this mean there are more than 33 failed units?
No - there could be still 26 consoles in the pile which have failed, in order to continue with a 33% failure rate.

Therefore, nothing can be proven by taking such a small sample of units from a big pile.

All you've proven is the 7 consoles you have are out are working - nothing more. Whether someone else has experienced more failures than you seems to be totally beyond your understanding - like I said, I've met people with 7 failed units - according to you, the failure rate must be nearer 100% (like you, based on their own experiences).

If you still don't understand this, please don't waste my time discussing it. I'm humoured you're stupidity this far and frankly it's now painful.
#34
Xb0xGuru
What I can see is that you haven't the foggiest idea about statistics.

Your 7 working consoles fall in the 67% of working units. Well done.

Out of 100 consoles, 33 have been returned as faulty (hint - percent means 'per hundred')

Put all these consoles in a big pile and mix them up.

Pick 7 consoles. They all work. Does this mean there aren't 33 consoles still which are faulty? No - someone else will pick them up.

Pick another 7 consoles. They all fail. Does this mean there are more than 33 failed units?
No - there could be still 26 consoles in the pile which have failed, in order to continue with a 33% failure rate.

Therefore, nothing can be proven by taking such a small sample of units from a big pile.

All you've proven is the 7 consoles you have are out are working - nothing more. Whether someone else has experienced more failures than you seems to be totally beyond your understanding - like I said, I've met people with 7 failed units - according to you, the failure rate must be nearer 100% (like you, based on their own experiences).

If you still don't understand this, please don't waste my time discussing it. I'm humoured you're stupidity this far and frankly it's now painful.


LOL

7 out of 7 is 100% [Percent] which is why I used 7 as example :lol

I understand fully I do not believe 33% failure rate nor do I think there is 100% success rate from 7 of 7 but you cannot argue with numbers in my case there is a 0% failure rate of RROD

So in real world if the maximum number of sold = number of sold and none fail then that is a zero percent failure rate.

Everything you have above is however correct never said it was not but it is you who fails to understand in a small amount as you put it like my 7 that if none fail then it is 0% failure rate for me.

So If I buy 100 xbox 360's and none of them fail ... have there really been 9,134,791 failed xbox 360's that would be like a 33% failure rate

Irrelvant really as Yes/No is 50/50 so probability A occurs is half 50/50 and B occurs is half 50/50 so it really either fails or it does not.


Your
#35
Xb0xGuru
What I can see is that you haven't the foggiest idea about statistics.

Your 7 working consoles fall in the 67% of working units. Well done.

Out of 100 consoles, 33 have been returned as faulty (hint - percent means 'per hundred')

Put all these consoles in a big pile and mix them up.

Pick 7 consoles. They all work. Does this mean there aren't 33 consoles still which are faulty? No - someone else will pick them up.

Pick another 7 consoles. They all fail. Does this mean there are more than 33 failed units?
No - there could be still 26 consoles in the pile which have failed, in order to continue with a 33% failure rate.

Therefore, nothing can be proven by taking such a small sample of units from a big pile.

All you've proven is the 7 consoles you have are out are working - nothing more. Whether someone else has experienced more failures than you seems to be totally beyond your understanding - like I said, I've met people with 7 failed units - according to you, the failure rate must be nearer 100% (like you, based on their own experiences).

If you still don't understand this, please don't waste my time discussing it. I'm humoured you're stupidity this far and frankly it's now painful.


Harvard Business School you went not


its a deal its a STEAL
#36
dontasciime
LOL

I understand fully I do not believe 33% failure rate nor do I think there is 100% success rate from 7 of 7 but you cannot argue with numbers in my case there is a 0% failure rate of RROD

Everything you have above is however correct never said it was not but it is you who fails to understand in a small amount as you put it like my 7 that if none fail then it is 0% failure rate for me.

have there really been 9,134,791 failed xbox 360's that would be like a 33% failure rate

Irrelvant really as Yes/No is 50/50 so probability A occurs is half 50/50 and B occurs is half 50/50 so it really either fails or it does not.






Yes, it's extremely likely there's 9 million failed consoles when you consider Microsoft had to fork out $1Billion to service them - http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/microsoft-loses-1-billion-for-360-repairs - this was two years ago when sales were half of what they are now. $100 per console to repair it (at vendor level) means 10 million units. Looking at the stats, it's even more probable that the failure rate is higher than 33%.

33% is basically 1 in 3 consoles - surely you must grasp the idea that this doesn't mean that everyone with 3 consoles MUST have at least one which have failed on them? If you want to be pedantic, I've 4 consoles and 3 of which have failed, meaning if I was to take your way of working out this magic number, the failure rate is actually 75%.

You cannot base your findings purely on your own experience. of 27 million consoles sold, you own SEVEN. How can you possibly stand by your opinion with such a small slice of the 'pie'?

Why are you now talking about probability, unless you're confusing it with the statistics (two entirely different things).
#37
I'm not confusing anything with anything. I am just stating 33% is IMO not a true stat neither because if it was - I know 4 people with 1 xbox 360 each (which btw is same as me owning 4 and 4 people using them in my household)you mention it above about it meaning 1 in 3 - which it does unless you are now going to disagree with yourself.... So 1 in 3 means as it says (if true ) out of the 4 people I know with an xbox 360 then statistically if failure rate is 33% 1in3 it means 1 of my friends xbxo 360's should be RROD (So if I have 4 machines which all equally get as much use as the other then 1 should be rrod Co's its same as 4 different people owning them) therefore I have 7 it's actually 8 I miscounted but 1 in 3 - 2 in 6 probability does play a part in it. It is not straight forward.

30 million according to vgc chartz

So for me I do not believe the 33% failure rate as I have not seen it in my house nor amongst my 4 friends who own a 360 each.(on a wider scale eg all 360 sold to date I still do not believe 9 million units have been returned back to M$ to fix RROD) M$ claim 5% fail thats is what m$ say that figure probably has to be somewhat misbelieved so lets say Triple it 15%

LUCK has no part in the stats Which is what I said early on (but it probably does :lol) but has no right to have a place there.

In a competition 1 in 4 scratch cards is a winner if you have 8 scratch cards how many winning scratch cards can you expect to be a winner in stats 2

It could go on for a long time so lets just say you're right.
#38
dontasciime
So for me I do not believe the 33% failure rate as I have not seen it in my house nor amongst my 4 friends who own a 360 each.


Even though I've just quoted to you how much MS have had to shell out two years ago in repairing their console - 1 billion dollars? All you've got to reply with is 'you and 4 friends'? Unless between you all you own 27 million consoles, it's meaningless.

My head hurts - I've gone past caring. One day, someone may be able to explain stats to you but whilst you're going on things like the above (which is simply ridiculous), you're a lost cause.
#39
No that is you, there are too many variables and probability does come into it and you are too rude to see past that

1 in 3 people can see that
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