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Hello everybody, I'm currently looking at getting one of the above. I initially pre-ordered a PS3 however now I'm having second thoughts, and I think I may get a 360, based on the following: -It's ch… Read More
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1d, 4m agoPosted 1 decade, 4 months ago
Hello everybody, I'm currently looking at getting one of the above. I initially pre-ordered a PS3 however now I'm having second thoughts, and I think I may get a 360, based on the following:

-It's cheaper
-Huge range of games released
-Many reviews/comparisons I've read say the 360 chip is easier to "work with" or develop games for, and although on paper the PS3 has the higher spec, in reality at present the XBox 360 can more than keep up with the quality of PS3 games.
-PS3 supports blu-ray, and not HD-DVD, nobody knows which will become the dominant force blah blah, xbox 360 is just an add on drive, can be replaced easily/cheaply.

Thats basically what I'm going on at the moment, anyone got any comments/suggestions?

Also will I get my £50 deposit back from GAME? I'm guessing cancelling is fine...

Finally, the rumours about v2 of the 360, nothing is definite about this yet right? Or does anyone know anything further...
Thanks,
Sam.
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1d, 4m agoPosted 1 decade, 4 months ago
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#1
To add to your list here are some little known facts. The 360 gpu can actually handle 1080P better than the PS3. By sticking with DVDs the 360 also reads data twice as fast as the PS3 can read Blu-Ray discs.

Admittedly I will have to buy a PS3 somewhere down the line as there's bound to be a few must have exclusives and definitely some Japanese developed titles that will only go Sony's way, but the cost of the machine is completely absurd when you put the capabilities of the two machines side by side.
#2
I think from reading, research games etc myself my mind is made up. However I don't want to buy the premium pack if a "version 2" is soon to be released - rumours are that it has HDMI output and a 120gig hard drive, however I guess that would have to be a risk I would take, as I wanna get it around ps3 release time...
#3
Id stick with the 360 titley, i thibk britian is getting the low version PS3 to start off with if i remember right!
Yeh your bound to lose your deposit, thats exactly what a deposit is, you put money down on a product for a shop to keep it, if you dont want it they lose out on a sale (which they wont) and your £50 is forfeited (sp?)

Im well happy with my 360, i didnt at first and sold it then i got one at xmas from my lass and iv never looked back, now iv got an HD tele things are just getting a whole load better

360 all the way matey !!


EDIT: has the original 360 not got a HDMI output at the moment anyway !!
#4
saxo_appeal
EDIT: has the original 360 not got a HDMI output at the moment anyway !!


Nope, HD is all through either component or VGA. I'd be shocked if a new model didn't appear with one, a larger hard drive is a dead cert too.
#5
I have no idea on the merits of 360/ps3(though I hate sony:x ) but with regards to your deposit,should you have difficulty getting the £50 back,though I doubt they could keep it in all honesty,why don't you just put it towards the 360 instead.Game will have some deals on the 360 I should imagine anyways.
#6
MBeeching
Nope, HD is all through either component or VGA. I'd be shocked if a new model didn't appear with one, a larger hard drive is a dead cert too.



so what im getting at the moment isnt HD on my LCD tv? iv switched the back to HD on the wire that connects the tv to the xbox
banned#7
Game will refund the deposit.
#8
I would get the Xbox 360.

You don't want to pay over the odds to buy a console with a below par launch of games. None of the PS3 launch titles appeal as a must own in my opinion.

The Xbox has an impressive line up of games at the moment, some of the ones that stand out are Gears of War, Lost Planet, Oblivion and Rainbow 6: Vegas.

The next year looks even better for Xbox too with such titles as Bioshock, Mass Effect and of course Halo 3 to be released.

I can't say I would never own a PS3, as one on my most favourite series of games, Final Fantasy, is on it. I just wouldn't get one at launch, wait for the price to drop and the games to get better. Which will all happen in time. At the moment it hasn't got a lot to offer, it will be selling on shear Sony 'fanboy'ism.
#9
Any one else got any comments?

Just got myself a shiny new LCD HD tv, and as much as I love my PS2, the games just don't "look" that good on it! :p

So I too am pondering which to go for, PS3 or Xbox! :thinking:
#10
I think I'm going for the 360. My only worry is I will buy one, then a few weeks later version 2 will appear...but I guess no one can be sure on the situation with the second 360, so its a gamble.
#11
I'm gonna guess that if there is a version 2 due soon they'll release it around the same time as the PS3, but I know nothing! :oops:

Just makes sense to me! :whistling:
#12
Personally I'd opt for the xbox360 at the moment, but I would wait a few weeks. It would make sense that microsoft will launch version 2 in time to annoy Sony :)

Only real reason I can see to buy the ps3 at present is if you want a blu ray player, as it is the cheapest option available and you get a free games machine as well :)

Johnnypanic
#13
johnnypanic
Only real reason I can see to buy the ps3 at present is if you want a blu ray player, as it is the cheapest option available and you get a free games machine as well :)

Johnnypanic


Good point Johnny!

Think I'll be able to sell that to my OH? :thinking:

Doubtful! :giggle:
1 Like #14
Prices for the two machines are about the same (Premium pack & HD-DVD works out around £400) - but you cant really say one is better than the other until you have played both, side by side.

I've always been a PS fan since the original PS1 - I've had PS & Xboxes, but always found the PS's to be a lot better.

I did succome to the 360 though - and wow - what a machine :)

I was going to get the PS3 for the Grand Theft Auto series, but it's out on the 360 in November !!!! So why bother lol.

As for the HDD - I have the 20gig one, and I still have 6gig of it left (with about 20 different saved games on it). I'm sure the newer version will only come in handy when they start to allow full length HD movies to be downloaded in ther marketplace.

No doubt the current 360 will drop in price (to around core price now) - but if you waited for any new technology to come out, you'd never end up buying anything !!!!

Buy it now, enjoy it - but watch out, you will spend money on it !!

lol - I bought mine, happy enough on a 32" CRT, then I seen my mates on his 40" plasma........so I bought a 50" HD tele !!

I was then please for a few months until I played on a mates......with surround sound.

I had to then buy the Logitech surround sound - and it's a superb gaming experience.

I then went out the other week & bought the HD-DVD player........damn, thats even better, especially with the surround sound lol :)

Good Luck

ps - 360 games have also dropped in price by a LOT. You can see the deals on here, loads of class games are now under £25, you can expect the PS3's to hover around the £50 mark for a long time yet.....
#15
ChrisUK
ps - 360 games have also dropped in price by a LOT. You can see the deals on here, loads of class games are now under £25, you can expect the PS3's to hover around the £50 mark for a long time yet.....


Sony have announced the RRP. of first party titles will be £39.99 which is actually good news for us 360 owners as it means Microsoft will more than likely follow suit.
#16
saxo_appeal
so what im getting at the moment isnt HD on my LCD tv? iv switched the back to HD on the wire that connects the tv to the xbox


Your picture is not HD unless you're using component or VGA. Surely you're using the red, green and blue wires to connect? That's component :)
#17
My recommendation would be to go for the 360 - albeit a biased one as that's what I did. There are some great looking games coming out exclusively for the PS3 - such as the one everyone seems to be talking about right now MotorStorm - but there are some fabulous games for the 360 too.

But the thing that swings it for me at the moment is that since the 360 has been around for a while, the prices of some less recent releases has dropped. There are already half a dozen or so which have been released on the "Classic" label, and Microsoft have confirmed that there will be more added to this in Spring 2007 (probably to coincide with PS3 launch???). So although you may get some killer games for the PS3, you could get more games for your money with 360 at the moment - I've been picking up some great games (Burnout Revenge, Pro Evo 6, Table Tennis, Condemmned) for around £12 - £16 thanks to the bargain hunters on this site! I'd personally much rather have a dozen different very good, very playable games rather than 2 or maybe 3 visually excellent ones.

Plus given the time the 360's been out you're more likely to be able to pick up some pre-owned bargains than on PS3 games.

Finally, although you do get a Blu-Ray player with your PS3, given that we don't really know which new DVD format will win (if either), I think it's better to not have to pay for the kit right now if you don't want to....
#18
I am in the same position, I reckon we should know this week if a v2 is imminent, it gives those pondering a PS3 a dilemma. Personally I think a v2 is on it's way but I think it will be more like the end of the year otherwise they would have announced it at the GDC last week (they announced IPTV stuff and memory card upgrades but nothing on a price drop or v2)

If something happens this week then great but if it doesn't then I will be getting mine next week - I want an extra controller and PGR3, at the mo the Boots deal looks good and you can get a controller for £20 and PGR3 has come down to £15 so deals are out there now to be had. No doubt there will be some additional bundles appear come PS3 launch too. I have waited for a couple of months for this week and just want to get my XBOX now, especially having already bought 5 games - Burnout Revenge, NBA 2K7, PES6, MotoGP06 and Just Cause - all under £16.50 each.

Chris UK speaks the truth, a lot of useful thoughts in his post and hopefully some here too.
#19
I'm a bit of a technical simpleton! Just how different is a V2 Xbox 360 going to be?

I have to admit the more I read the more I'm leaning in the 360's direction (would that be round in circles?!) :giggle:

Just have start saving - again!
1 Like #20
bobcat
Any one else got any comments?

Just got myself a shiny new LCD HD tv, and as much as I love my PS2, the games just don't "look" that good on it! :p

So I too am pondering which to go for, PS3 or Xbox! :thinking:


I agree about the PS2 games not looking good on a HDtv but have you seen this:

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5682588.htm

Supposedly enables the PS2 to output games and movies in 1080i and 720p (upscaling?) - can't find and reviews for it though??
1 Like #21
Here we go, some more V2 details for you mate:

Ever wonder why Microsoft hasn't released an HDMI cable for the Xbox 360, or whether the AV port was really capable of digital out? Well, here's your answer: we landed pictures of what appears to be the second Xbox 360 -- the Xbox 360 v2, if you will -- codenamed Zephyr. (The original Xbox 360, if you recall, was codenamed Xenon.) The long rumored about and awaited update to the console won't just feature a new, cooler 65nm processor, it's also finally added an HDMI port for full digital 1080p pleasure, as well as a 120GB drive, just what the doctor ordered. The 120GB drive may or may not come bundled with the kit, we don't yet know, just as we also don't yet know how much a Zephyr 360 is going to run (we imagine it'll go for the same price as currently so they can keep up a little on their expanding margin). But our very kind Xbox insider seemed happy to let us know we'd be able to get them "soon."

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/01/xbox_zephyr.jpg

Taken from http://www.engadget.com/
#22
A V2 would most likely have HDMI, which is a true digital connection which might have minor picture benefits. The main reason it is required is in case the movie studios start to enforce the use of secure connections for watching HD-DVDs.

A larger hard drive is going to be pretty useful given the substantial size of downloaded demos and high-definition video content from XBox Live.

An internal HD-DVD drive is also potentially possible so MS can pitch the 360 directly against the PS3. I don't think they'll risk losing there price advantage (sub £300) though so can't imagine that happening for a while.

The current 360 is already being tweaked every so often. Newer models have more efficient processors and lower heat output. There are also newer DVD drives appearing which can read faster.
1 Like #23
If you use a proper RGB lead then the PS2 can still look astounding on a decent plasma or LCD.

The PS2 looks great on my Panasonic plasma, but absolutely terrible on my friend's Toshiba LCD. The difference is night and day, my friend was really shocked when he compared them.
#24
ChrisUK
Here we go, some more V2 details for you mate:

Ever wonder why Microsoft hasn't released an HDMI cable for the Xbox 360, or whether the AV port was really capable of digital out? Well, here's your answer: we landed pictures of what appears to be the second Xbox 360 -- the Xbox 360 v2, if you will -- codenamed Zephyr. (The original Xbox 360, if you recall, was codenamed Xenon.) The long rumored about and awaited update to the console won't just feature a new, cooler 65nm processor, it's also finally added an HDMI port for full digital 1080p pleasure, as well as a 120GB drive, just what the doctor ordered. The 120GB drive may or may not come bundled with the kit, we don't yet know, just as we also don't yet know how much a Zephyr 360 is going to run (we imagine it'll go for the same price as currently so they can keep up a little on their expanding margin). But our very kind Xbox insider seemed happy to let us know we'd be able to get them "soon."

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/01/xbox_zephyr.jpg

Taken from http://www.engadget.com/


Nice one Chris....i dont suppose your contact said how soon? as it looks like a number of us are in the same boat now. :thumbsup:
#25
Looking round - it looks like it will be out just before the PS3 release....
#26
MBeeching
If you use a proper RGB lead then the PS2 can still look astounding on a decent plasma or LCD.

The PS2 looks great on my Panasonic plasma, but absolutely terrible on my friend's Toshiba LCD. The difference is night and day, my friend was really shocked when he compared them.


Yes - totally agree, well not sure about astounding, but there is a world of difference - RF cable vs RGB/Scart. I use an RGB cable & scart converter on my PS2 - but i'm quite interested in the Xploder thingy - it uses a componant cable, problem is my Pana only has the one componant input which is currently being used for my DVD player!!
#27
Yeh the reason why i was an avid fan of the PS titles was the Resident Evil series.... I loved the game !! the graphics were the best.
I would have waited till the PS3 came out but guess what.....Resident Evil 5 is going to be out on the 360 in October WOO HOO !!!
#28
I had an Xbox first, and the reason I bought a PS2 was for Resident Evil 4!!! - excellent game... not a great deal in common with the rest of the RE franchise though!!!
#29
There is nothing confirmed at all, any pics or vids are of a Dev kit from a couple of years ago (see m/f date on photos) - MS have confirmed the unit is real and that they have had it for a while looking at possibilities but nothing is due out. As I say, this week will be key with regards to an imminent release of such a unit but personally I think it would have been announced at the GDC last week so at the moment I am fully expecting to get mine early next week!
#30
jayhab
Yes - totally agree, well not sure about astounding, but there is a world of difference - RF cable vs RGB/Scart. I use an RGB cable & scart converter on my PS2 - but i'm quite interested in the Xploder thingy - it uses a componant cable, problem is my Pana only has the one componant input which is currently being used for my DVD player!!


I read a review but decided it prob wasn't worth buying if your TV already has a decent upscaler. Eventually found the review...
http://uk.gear.ign.com/articles/742/742965p1.html
#31
Sony have developed a habit of losing many of their exclusive titles recently - apparently due their slowness in finalising deals.

If anyone wants a quick guide to what is expected to be exclusive to each of the three newest consoles (360, PS3, Wii) - there's a list here...

http://www.siliconera.com/index.php/2006/10/18/battle-of-the-console-exclusives/1/
#32
jayhab
I agree about the PS2 games not looking good on a HDtv but have you seen this:

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5682588.htm

Supposedly enables the PS2 to output games and movies in 1080i and 720p (upscaling?) - can't find and reviews for it though??


I think I can feel a trip to Argos coming in my lunchbreak!

Gotta be worth a try at least !

Thanks for the tip!

:thumbsup:
#33
MBeeching
If you use a proper RGB lead then the PS2 can still look astounding on a decent plasma or LCD.

The PS2 looks great on my Panasonic plasma, but absolutely terrible on my friend's Toshiba LCD. The difference is night and day, my friend was really shocked when he compared them.


That's great - thank you. :thumbsup:

I'll give it a try - simpletonness showing again - do I just ask for an RGB lead? :oops:
#34
bobcat
That's great - thank you. :thumbsup:

I'll give it a try - simpletonness showing again - do I just ask for an RGB lead? :oops:


I'm sure they're not around anymore but there used to be a lot of scart leads which were labelled as RGB but actually weren't. A proper one should probably have a switch (GAME/DVD) on it because otherwise DVD playback is all green!
#35
MBeeching
I'm sure they're not around anymore but there used to be a lot of scart leads which were labelled as RGB but actually weren't. A proper one should probably have a switch (GAME/DVD) on it because otherwise DVD playback is all green!


Ah - I see - I think!

I'll find a game type person in Comet or Curry's and see what they say!

ta

:thumbsup:
#36
bobcat
I think I can feel a trip to Argos coming in my lunchbreak!

Gotta be worth a try at least !

Thanks for the tip!

:thumbsup:


I'd be interested, if you do get one, to see if it does make a difference!!
1 Like #37
^^ a proper RGB scart lead will make a lot of difference over a composite (yellow/white/red) cable. The video signal on a composite cable is just sent down the one cable, the yellow, and thus is mixed up and doesnt produce as clear or bright of a picture as an RGB cable would. The video on an RGB scart is individually sent down the Red, Green and Blue, thus not mixing the video up and scrambling it if you will. Ive just bought an official RGB scart for my gamecube and it makes games look so much more colourful and clear (no fuzziness now!) compared to the compsite cables :-)
#38
To further add to the issue you'll have to make sure you actually plug the RGB scart lead into an RGB scart socket on the TV. Most TV manufacturers cut corners by only having one RGB input! I know on mine scarts 1 and 3 are RGB capable (number 2 is an S-Video enabled scart).
#39
Ive got a Sony 28'' CRT... not 'that' old... and it has 2 scart sockets. How do you reckon i can find out if they are RGB sockets? Other than checking the manual (not sure if i have it)
#40
Hmm, could you get the model number off the back of the set? I'm sure we can find out between us.

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