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Xbox’s Phil Spencer: VR will come to Project Scorpio when it doesn’t feel like “demos and experiments”

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exactly what VR is at this point. Glad he just calls it like it is. http://stevivor.com/2016/11/xboxs-phil-spencer-vr-will-come-project-scorpio-doesnt-feel-like-demos-experiments/ Read More
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So.. never then.

It's a gimmick.
2 Likes #2
So.. Late then.

Calling it a gimmick is illogical, if anything it's just immature, and that could be the game development rather than the technology. Time will tell.
1 Like #3
It's not going to be a gimmick when Oculus is on the next Xbox in 2017 with the deal they made 6 months ago... Read between the lines people, he's only saying it because the PS4, mobile & PC have VR headsets while Xbox One doesn't. Just PR rubbish.

Edited By: dazzyp on Nov 01, 2016 11:34: Spelling
#4
I agree, and it's the reason I've not looked into it yet - everything seems to be either like a tower defence game, or carnival-like mini games. I think the biggest hurdle initially is going to be having the character you play as move about. Once that barrier is overcome, we should start seeing proper games.
#5
delusion
So.. Late then.

Calling it a gimmick is illogical, if anything it's just immature, and that could be the game development rather than the technology. Time will tell.


How is it immature? It's an opinion and I agree with Stuart.
#6
Snakeyes646
delusion
So.. Late then.
Calling it a gimmick is illogical, if anything it's just immature, and that could be the game development rather than the technology. Time will tell.
How is it immature? It's an opinion and I agree with Stuart.

Vr has been a logical next step for gaming for decades, but technology had not progressed enough to make it viable commercially. We are now at a transition stage where the technology is basically there.

Game development has not yet matured because it's as new to the developers as it is to the consumer, but due to the technology now being at a level where great immersive experiences are possible we will see Vr take off. That's already clear by the level of interest by multiple large gaming and media companies.

3D television was considered a gimmick by most as there was no where else for it to go, it's either on or off, and the additional benefit is very limited. But with Vr, there are endless possibilities to improve both learning and immersion, games and media can keep improving along with the technology (Eg its scalable), so it's not a gimmick.

Suggesting it's a gimmick is not accurate. An opinion on why you think it's a gimmick is valid,but dismissing completely as a gimmick without reason is not.

(you could argue this is an opinion too I suppose if you want)
#7
No point honest to bod in trying to defend the VR anymore, most have made their minds up. but all I would say is its very much worth trying...

and as for Phil Spencer's comments, as mentioned above Microsoft have committed to support multiple VR headsets fro various manufactures. not sure why he is making these comments if nothing more than to have a swipe at Sony.


Edited By: haritori on Nov 01, 2016 10:32
#8
Well the Xbox UI feels like an experiment. :D

Seriously though yes the tech is in its infancy and that is one of the exciting aspects of it.
#9
I wonder what Milo is up to these days...
#10
He seems to be hinting that their VR version will be wireless like Hololens.
#11
delusion
Snakeyes646
delusion
So.. Late then.
Calling it a gimmick is illogical, if anything it's just immature, and that could be the game development rather than the technology. Time will tell.
How is it immature? It's an opinion and I agree with Stuart.

Vr has been a logical next step for gaming for decades, but technology had not progressed enough to make it viable commercially. We are now at a transition stage where the technology is basically there.

Game development has not yet matured because it's as new to the developers as it is to the consumer, but due to the technology now being at a level where great immersive experiences are possible we will see Vr take off. That's already clear by the level of interest by multiple large gaming and media companies.

3D television was considered a gimmick by most as there was no where else for it to go, it's either on or off, and the additional benefit is very limited. But with Vr, there are endless possibilities to improve both learning and immersion, games and media can keep improving along with the technology (Eg its scalable), so it's not a gimmick.

Suggesting it's a gimmick is not accurate. An opinion on why you think it's a gimmick is valid,but dismissing completely as a gimmick without reason is not.

(you could argue this is an opinion too I suppose if you want)


Yeah it all makes sense, I hope it isn't a gimmick and is successful, I wanted psvr day one but the Star Trek delay meant I could wait and see what general opinion was before splashing out.

Reviews for games so far are kinda mixed, eve and Star Trek are the games I like the look of.
#12
I got the Playstation VR on day of launch with the intention of selling it before Christmas for a little loss on what I paid, but taking a hit on the software (I'm download only, got fed up of physical game boxes cluttering everywhere). I won't use it for more than an hour or so at a time and it certainly won't replace my 4k OLED TV.

Used with the mindset that it is just a 'first generation' accessory with some relatively short bursts of gaming, it is extremely accomplished and I have wondered if there's really any point to selling on. I also expect it to play a bit nicer with the PS4 Pro over time.

It is clear Microsoft is going for 'greater things' in the sense of controllers, resolution etc with their partnerships. Funnily enough I'm not too bothered about that right now, resolution is 'ok' but will improve with generation two as an obvious progression. Right now I'd be really happy if it could just be wireless! I also think it is good the console gaming industry has one focal point for VR, anyone interested must go with the PS4 and it gauges the market size completely, rather than being pulled apart by competing systems in a smaller market space.




Edited By: super_leeds_86 on Nov 01, 2016 11:34: .
#13
shasnir
dazzyp
It's not going to be a gimmick when Oculus is on the next Xbox in 2017 with the deal they made 6 months ago... Read between the lines people, he's only saying it because the PS4, mobile & PC when VR headsets while Xbox One doesn't. Just PR rubbish.
I think you may be a little behind on the news, MS have many VR partner's.
"Microsoft announces $299 virtual reality headsets from its partners will hit the market next year"
Various hardware makers are teaming up with Microsoft to develop virtual reality headsets expected for release next year" the new entries to the VR market are expected to be released in spring 2017.
These companies include laptop makers Acer, ASUS, Dell, Hewlett Packard (HP) and Lenovo. The VR headsets will start at $299 are the “first and only” headsets with “inside out six degrees of freedom sensors.” In other words, users won’t need an extra accessory such as a camera sensor.
Microsoft said these will the the “first VR headsets capable of mixed reality,” and will work with the Windows 10 Creators Update.https://www.vg247.com/2016/10/26/microsoft-announces-299-virtual-reality-headsets-from-its-partners-will-hit-the-market-next-year/

I don't think you read the news properly, that's not for gaming in it's current form due to tracking and bandwidth limitations. They didn't even show Minecraft on it.
1 Like #14
Got the vive and whilst there's some great indie games the ps4 games in a way left me disappointed with my vive.
Silly little things like that London heist game, that bar scene blew my mind.
Psvr gets the best of both worlds.
The best indie games test the water with pc and release on psvr anyway.
Granted the vive room scale, clarity and controllers are better but games drive success.
My controllers are in for repair with htc for the second time so my experience has been pretty grim so far :(

If anybody is interested to see some great games that are/might be heading to psvr here are some of my picks.

Pier head arcade
Final approach
A chair in a room
The gallery call of starseed
The brookheaven experiment
Vertigo
Ghost town mine ride
Vanishing realms
2 Likes #15
I agree I have yet to see anything worthwhile for psvr that is not a "vr experience" demo.
Only time will tell if it will be developed for seriously, be a permanent demo/shovelware device or just be forgotten like kinect.

I think its a smart move of Xbox to wait to see if it is worth it or not for consumers

Edited By: StevenBrown on Nov 01, 2016 12:07
#16
It needs a killer app but that requires a large enough install base for it to make sense investing in one. Until that point it will simply be another novelty.

You have to recognise that we haven't really changed the way we've controlled games in about four decades so there's a language of gaming we all understand. So when people talk about immersiveness, vr isn't because it doesn't adhere to that language.
1 Like #17
Benjamin... we're here again. You seem desperate for this to fail, I just can't understand why? Surely innovation & progress in something you enjoy can only be a good thing?
#18
Xbox don't do experimental/demo hardware? Hang on while I go break the bad news to my 360 & Xbox one's Kinect. X)

Looking forward to trying VR at home. Not sure how I'll handle a horror type game. oO
#19
Cenobite
Not sure how I'll handle a horror type game. oO
If horror games are done well on any VR platform, they could be incredible.
1 Like #20
Flodd
Benjamin... we're here again. You seem desperate for this to fail, I just can't understand why? Surely innovation & progress in something you enjoy can only be a good thing?


Just posting the Xbox news fam
#21
benjammin316
Flodd
Benjamin... we're here again. You seem desperate for this to fail, I just can't understand why? Surely innovation & progress in something you enjoy can only be a good thing?
Just posting the Xbox news fam

Ohhhhhh.... I get it now, you're an xbox boy. That Hololens thing looks much better than VR eh? And uncharted is crap anyway...
#22
Flodd
benjammin316
Flodd
Benjamin... we're here again. You seem desperate for this to fail, I just can't understand why? Surely innovation & progress in something you enjoy can only be a good thing?
Just posting the Xbox news fam
Ohhhhhh.... I get it now, you're an xbox boy. That Hololens thing looks much better than VR eh? And uncharted is crap anyway...


No interest in hololens, first uncharted was alright
banned#23
No sign of that kitten in here yet?
#24
Cenobite
Xbox don't do experimental/demo hardware? Hang on while I go break the bad news to my 360 & Xbox one's Kinect. X)
Looking forward to trying VR at home. Not sure how I'll handle a horror type game. oO

Imagine the worst haunted house ever and you're in it.
It's that bad!
#25
MrScotchBonnet
No sign of that kitten in here yet?

Like me I suspect she is fed up of defending something from people who haven't even tried it yet..
banned#26
haritori
MrScotchBonnet
No sign of that kitten in here yet?
Like me I suspect she is fed up of defending something from people who haven't even tried it yet..

You trying to get in her pants? :D
#27
MrScotchBonnet
haritori
MrScotchBonnet
No sign of that kitten in here yet?
Like me I suspect she is fed up of defending something from people who haven't even tried it yet..
You trying to get in her pants? :D

Will any answer I give work? :D
#28
haritori
MrScotchBonnet
No sign of that kitten in here yet?
Like me I suspect she is fed up of defending something from people who haven't even tried it yet..


Phil has tried it.
banned#29
Love phil
#30
haritori
MrScotchBonnet
No sign of that kitten in here yet?
Like me I suspect she is fed up of defending something from people who haven't even tried it yet..

*sigh* if I must.

As it says in the title, VR is coming to xbox. It's not an if... it's a when.
2 Likes #31
totally agree with him, after the hype has gone i can see VR going the way of motion controls and kinect.
1 Like #32
Agree with Phil

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