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Young jackdaws - Help..I destroyed their nest (by accident!) Now what?

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8y, 6m agoPosted 8 years, 6 months ago
Long story...was asked to check out falling maggots (!) coming from ceiling in a primary school. Removed suspended ceiling tile and a half a bloody forest came falling down, a LOT of mud, branches etc. It was a HUGE nest! Had a good look to see if there were any animals or birds there, couldn't see any - only a dead one (hence maggots). Thought the rest of the birds must have flown the nest so I continued to remove the rest of the nest. Only after I'd removed it I found 3 young jackdaws in the corner of the loft space. ...Ooops!
With their nest now gone I didn't know what to do for the best. I thought the parents aren't going to come back now with the nest gone, surely? I've taken them home but should I have left them there perhaps? Should I bring them back tomorrow morning? In a box with twigs etc? Will this work? Not even sure if this is such a good idea anyway as it's in a class room, what if more stuff falls down?
They are actually quite big and have all their feathers, they can grip and balance on my hand. So I think it wouldn't be too long until they fly the nest. Best thing would be to return them in the same area but not in the loft, but will the parents find them? And should they be in a box then, under bushes or high up?

I am keeping them in a box, next to a little radiator to keep them warm. Have soaked some Eukanuba dog food in water and will carefully try to feed them with a dropper.
Long shot, but does anyone have any experience of hand rearing jackdaws?
Any advice on what to do? I might phone RSPCA in the morning, but they will probably not be interested in some pesky jackdaws.
Feeling guilty now, but then again I didn't realise and at least the maggot problem has been addressed now.
Thanks in advance for any help.
p.s: I know lots of people hate crows, jackdaws etc. I happen to rather like them :)
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8y, 6m agoPosted 8 years, 6 months ago
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#1
RSPB not RSPCA they are brilliant will come out straight away and take and look after
#2
aww call rspca/rspb whoever and they wil advise u.....bless ya awww
#3
Ah it sounds like you are looking after them well but agree with the others phone the RSPB, they will know whats best!!;-)
#4
Thanks guys. I will try RSPB or local vet. I want to leave it to the experts, people who (unlike me) know what to do. They are quite cute, son wants to keep 'em! NOOO! My cats would have a great time with them too :)
#5
i would of left them the parents definately would of comeback imo, maybe take them back and put them down on the floor as close to the nest entrance as poss
#6
kungfu
i would of left them the parents definately would of comeback imo, maybe take them back and put them down on the floor as close to the nest entrance as poss


If he does that they WILL most likely die. The parents won't go near them after they've been handled. Personally i'd keep em and train them. Good birds once theyve grown up.
#7
Phone them now rather then in morning though!
#8
Shengis
If he does that they WILL most likely die. The parents won't go near them after they've been handled. Personally i'd keep em and train them. Good birds once theyve grown up.


Nah.....Common myth. The parents would of came back and re-nested imo. there or elsewhere.

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=fact-or-fiction-birds-abandon-young-at-human-touch&sc=rss
#9
The RSPB don't have a rescue service at all, just advice.

You need to really hand them over to the RSPCA, but seeing as they are not frare birds they may be put down because they aren't worth them putting too much time and resources into, sadly.

Another good idea would be to see if there's any other sanctuaries, etc, in your local area... charisites, rescue centres, etc.

As I say though - as they aren't endangered or birds of prey, etc, I don't know who'll take them.
#10
kungfu
Nah.....Common myth. The parents would of came back and re-nested imo. there or elsewhere.

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=fact-or-fiction-birds-abandon-young-at-human-touch&sc=rss


Myth? That just confirms what I said :?

Still, there's good reason not to go fiddling around in an occupied nest. "The fact is, birds don't abandon their young in response to touch, [but] they will abandon [their offspring and their nest] in response to disturbance," explains biologist Thomas E. Martin of the University of Montana and the U.S. Geological Survey, who has handled birds from Venezuela to Tasmania without instigating abandonment. "They are likely responding to disturbance in relation to risk of harm to young."


Anyway, if the parents return in the meantime and find the young birds gone, they will just move on to safer area.
#11
Well, if you try the RSPCA/B and the local vet, you'll have done your best and good on you for trying - it wasn't your fault really.


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Shengis - avatar :w00t:
#12
Shengis
Myth? That just confirms what I said :?


Dunno what youre reading like..........

"No matter how flighty birds appear, they do not readily abandon their young, especially not in response to human touch"

"The myth derives from the belief that birds can detect human scent."

"Yet no bird's sense of smell is cued to human scent."

As the last two lines of the article say, the parents where probably watching from a safe distance ready to go back.

I was obsessed with birds as a young lad an me and mates often took birds out of nests (very stupid i know but we were young and daft) and we always put them back and monitored them daily sometimes seeing them grow ;) Never know one to get abandoned cos we touched them
#13
chesso
Shengis - avatar :w00t:


I'm bored with it already....

http://www.weebls-stuff.com/onthemoon/On+The+Moon+ep.1/

;-)
#14
kungfu
Dunno what youre reading like..........


Paragraph 5.:thumbsup:

Anyway, not much point ringing RSPxx as Jacks are classified as VERMIN (which is why I like them, birds of a feather and all that:) )
#15
we used to have a jackdaw most adorable pet ever
#16
Ok shengis didnt see that bit inthe article thru being so blind to only look for my side of the argument in it lol, we could probably argue thru that article all night as it even contradicts itself haha! But reckon their best chance was to leave em near the nest, parents dont give up their offspring too easily i reckon they were watching and waiting to return for them.
#17
Shengis


Just a passing and notably short phase then. :thumbsup: phew!
#18
They have had some grub and seem happy enough. Thanks again for all your advice. I will try first thing in the morning to phone RSPB etc. See what they have to say.
#19
keep them they make great pets
you can snip their tongues and they can talk
banned#20
can we call you the bird man now then toast?
#21
Genious_Gamer360
can we call you the bird man now then toast?


I'm a lady innit? :)
#22
BEANZ-ON-TOAST
I'm a lady innit? :)


Hey, howz it going?! Have you got hold of anyone!?

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:FWvxhVGM7c4J:farm2.static.flickr.com/1272/1305919661_ae0c575ce2.jpg%253Fv%253D0

Isn't jackdaw a posh name for a crow - thats what they look like?
1 Like #23
Hi Kelly 'n Steve,

Jackdaw update :)
Phoned RSPB, who said best to return them as close to the original nest as possible, as high up as possible. As too risky to hand rear them, even a few days will make them get used to humans - which is not good for them in the long run. So I gave them a last feed and went back to the school with them. Have put them in a closed, large box (hole in the front), on a flat roof. Hope it's not too late, should have done this last night I suppose but there was nobody to ring for advice outside office hours. And I wasn't sure what to do for the best. The guy from the RSPB didn't seem to think it was too late at all. He said it was highly likely the parents would come back for them. I live close to the school and I will keep an eye out for them, should be able to see if the parents will return. I have seen some jackdaws flying about, hope it's the parents.
Fingers crossed they'll make it. Two of them are a bit thin really, but the man from RSPB said that it is quite normal for only 1 or 2 out of a nest to survive. One definitely seems the strongest one. Oh well, at least they've had some food now and surely the parents are best capable of looking after them. If they find them that is.
#24
Sound like you've done everything possible. Well done and fingers crossed.:thumbsup:
#25
if there is only little chance and you have time on yor hands i would have kept one
they are great to tame and can learn t otalk too
#26
Brilliant, well i hope for the best!!
#27
jasonrat
if there is only little chance and you have time on yor hands i would have kept one
they are great to tame and can learn t otalk too


I admit it is tempting as I know they can be easily tamed and they're great characters. I work from home and have plenty of time on my hands. My dad had a tame one and he was mad about his. But I have enough pets as it is, plus ultimately I think it really is best to let them live in the wild. But if the parents don't come back I might just have to keep one :)
1 Like #28
Just had a look and the jackdaws seem to be doing fine. And later I spotted a big jackdaw flying away from the roof where the box is. So fingers crossed they've found each other again!
#29
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:31IPjdswNsoJ:www.sc.iitb.ac.in/~janas/Fcros.jpg
#30
Aww...thanks Jellybaby...I'm a sucker for trying to help animals if I can. I've even saved a bumblebee before, how weird is that!
#31
please keep us posted
how long can they be left without food?
fingers crossed they come back
#32
BEANZ-ON-TOAST
Aww...thanks Jellybaby...I'm a sucker for trying to help animals if I can. I've even saved a bumblebee before, how weird is that!


Sucker isn't the word for me! I won't stand on ants, snails - nothing and if i see or hear anyone else doing it - i go mental! I am always the spider resuer as all my family and work mates hate 'em!!
I will go AROUND an ALREADY dead rabbit in the road as i just can't bare to go over it!!
I'm terrible!
I love it when i hear a story like yours beanz on toast! Good on ya!!
#33
I like creepie crawlies too...we must all be big softies eh?
Jelly, you're going to tell your little girl the vet operated on the spider and he's all better now? Bless her!

Will keep this thread updated with any news. Thanks guys! xx
#34
Sorry, sad news I'm afraid :-(

Hubby checked on them this morning and found the nest empty. With lots of feathers next to it.
No sign anywhere of the birds. He checked under bushes, behind shed etc. The strange thing is that there were 2 large tears made in the box, under the hole. I used an extremely strong, very thick cardboard box, in fact I had quite a job to cut the hole out. I made sure the hole wasn't too big so a cat would not be able to fit through hopefully. Plus there are no cats in the area (none that I know of). I can't believe a cat would be strong enough to make the hole bigger...but I can't think of anything else that could have done this. (Do foxes climb up roofs?)
Feel bad now, had I known of course I would have hand reared them or brought them to a rescue centre. But I followed the advice of the RSPB man and I genuinely thought it would be the best thing for them, to go back to their parents - and to prevent them from getting too friendly with humans. I was hopeful when I saw the parents (?) flying very near the box yesterday and now this...
Perhaps we should have put them back in the loft space...We did seriously consider this, but then it would have been extremely hard to keep an eye on them, plus not good for the kids sitting right under it, with all the falling dust/sh*t etc. So we decided against that. Especially since we considered the risk of predators in the area to be low...or so we thought.

Feel gutted really, they were so cute and almost ready I think to fly the nest. :-(
I know our intentions were good but still feel guilty that we may have gone about it the wrong way somehow.
Anyway, sadly here is where the jackdaw saga ends...thanks for the advice and encouragement guys. Wish I had better news to share.
#35
Oh no! What a shame! Well the only you can say to yourself is that it is nature! When ever i see something horrible on the tv before i have had time to turn over i just say to myself it is nature!
Is there any chance the parents could of taken them to a new nest?
http://th296.photobucket.com/albums/mm168/pupye/th_crying.gif
1 Like #36
Don't think so...hubby said there were a lot of feathers. So something must have attacked them. Maybe one or two escaped and are with the parents...I don't know. I suppose it's a remote possibilty.
#37
what interesting story. sorry it had such a sad ending

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