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Your right to keep rabbits and chickens. Private landlord or not.

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Even if you have a private landlord they can not stop you keeping rabbits or chickens. Here is an example of one of those rare but great little stories which reminds us of the many laws that still re… Read More
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1w, 6d agoPosted 1 week, 6 days ago
Even if you have a private landlord they can not stop you keeping rabbits or chickens.

Here is an example of one of those rare but great little stories which reminds us of the many laws that still remain but not often known about.
Natasha Brooks, from Greater Manchester, kept two chickens (named Henny and Penny just in case you were wondering) in the back garden of her property, which is owned by New Charter Housing Trust.
After an inspection by a housing officer, staff began action to remove the birds because they said they were in breach of her tenancy agreement.
The housing association were asked by Mr Cole (a cousin of Ms Brooks) (and not a solicitor) to consider section 12 of the Allotments Act 1950 which states:
12 Abolition of contractual restrictions on keeping hens and rabbits.
(1) Notwithstanding any provision to the contrary in any lease or tenancy or in any covenant, contract or undertaking relating to the use to be made of any land, it shall be lawful for the occupier of any land to keep, otherwise than by way of trade or business, hens or rabbits in any place on the land and to erect or place and maintain such buildings or structures on the land as reasonably necessary for that purpose:
Provided that nothing in this subsection shall authorise any hens or rabbits to be kept in such a place or in such a manner as to be prejudicial to health or a nuisance or affect the operation of any enactment.
The Act does not define lease, tenancy or land in such a way as to limit it to allotments so New Charter agreed that Ms Brooks could keep the two birds.
New Charter spokesperson Bob Clowrey said:
‘The tenancy agreement is not explicit on the keeping of chickens. We are grateful to Mr Cole for bringing to our attention the Provision of Allotment Act 1950 which provides clarification and we are glad to have been able to resolve the matter before ending up with egg on our face.”
‘On this basis of the clarification provided by the Allotment Act Ms Brooks can keep Henny and Penny, providing that all relevant tenancy conditions and legal obligations are complied with.’
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9 Likes #1
No problem with chickens and ducks but anyone that keeps a cockerel in a built up area should be shot!
#2
Ta.
Excellent :D....
Dat is wiv a gg for the thickos here

Edited By: Wongy110 on Jul 12, 2017 23:36
#3
++We are grateful to Mr Cole for bringing to our attention the Provision of Allotment Act 1950 ++

I'm guessing that's not entirely sincere.
#4
Sorry no pets allowed at our properties, except the one we live in 8)
#5
mutley1
Sorry no pets allowed at our properties, except the one we live in 8)
Do as I say not as I do? My tenants have goldfish.
#6
mutley1
Sorry no pets allowed at our properties, except the one we live in 8)

I hope you give your tenants the right to request that pets be kept and that you don#t unreasonably refuse such requests.

because that would be completely illegal.
#7
Destard
++We are grateful to Mr Cole for bringing to our attention the Provision of Allotment Act 1950 ++
I'm guessing that's not entirely sincere.
Another words I should know better as highly paid expert but I wasn't as a housing officer. The Act was 1950, so if an organisation has a reference checklist in a tenancy informational manual, then the housing officer's competence to do his or her job is to apply the tenancy terms as well as laws of the land that relate to tenant's enjoyment of tenancy rights as well as the landlord's rights in law including calling out when something does not make for common sense.
1 Like #8
Wouldn't surprise me if Ms Brookes, received a S21 from her housing association in the next few weeks.
#9
DKLS
Wouldn't surprise me if Ms Brookes, received a S21 from her housing association in the next few weeks.
What's that? Not a phone I'm guessing
#10
If the contract says no pets it means no pets.
Breach it and out you go then don't complain as it's your own fault.
#11
thedvdmonster
If the contract says no pets it means no pets.
Breach it and out you go then don't complain as it's your own fault.
If a landlord tried to evict you for keeping chickens/rabbits he would be breaking the law, the 1950 garden and allotment act is the law of the land.

My reading of the legislation is that you are allowed to keep them. Any land means any land and section 12 says that you can maintain them. The allotment act was written in that way because in the 50s many people used their gardens as allotments. Rationing still existed back then and things were different.
2 Likes #12
Destard
What's that? Not a phone I'm guessing


Eviction notice, plus they can evict for any reason at all, in fact they don't even need a reason, some dated allotment act means nothing in the real world.
It's still legal to shoot a scotsman in York city centre as long as you use a crossbow and its not on a sunday.

If a landlord or a HA want to get rid of a tenant they can, as long as they follow the rules.
1 Like #13
I hate to see amateurs trying to keep livestock, I've seen some cruel sights in back gardens, chickens or rabbits caged up and living on bare earth, not looked after because of boredom or laziness. Give it a miss.
2 Likes #14
mutley1
Sorry no pets allowed at our properties, except the one we live in 8)
Yeah and we all know that you can't control your dog when out X)
#15
takethatfan1978
Yeah and we all know that you can't control your dog when out X)

he is getting better actually as he has now calmed down from when we first got him from the rescue center. now he actually listens when we call him whereas before he didn't give a hoot.

our next dog will not come a rescue center as we will get a puppy and so we will get the dog trained from puppy age, which will mean the dog will be better behaved.
#16
eset12345
I hope you give your tenants the right to request that pets be kept and that you don#t unreasonably refuse such requests.because that would be completely illegal.

illegal or not, no one lives in our properties with pets. we have never had an issue telling tenants that they can not keep pets. not many people in london have pets any way as everyone has to work long hours to pay the astronomical rent, they don't have time to look after pets, not even goldfish!
2 Likes #17
mutley1
he is getting better actually as he has now calmed down from when we first got him from the rescue center. now he actually listens when we call him whereas before he didn't give a hoot.our next dog will not come a rescue center as we will get a puppy and so we will get the dog trained from puppy age, which will mean the dog will be better behaved.

Is the dog confused with his gender like you mutley?
#18
airfix
Is the dog confused with his gender like you mutley?

i am not confused about my gender. i just did not disclose my gender. i don't want to continue discussion about my gender now that i have disclosed it.
2 Likes #19
airfix
I hate to see amateurs trying to keep livestock, I've seen some cruel sights in back gardens, chickens or rabbits caged up and living on bare earth, not looked after because of boredom or laziness. Give it a miss.
I've heard you choke your chicken? :|
#20
mutley1
i am not confused about my gender. i just did not disclose my gender. i don't want to continue discussion about my gender now that i have disclosed it.

So what was the outcome of the disclosure, I think I missed it ?
1 Like #21
OldEnglish
I've heard you choke your chicken? :|

No I prefer humane methods, that's barbaric
#22
T
OldEnglish
I've heard you choke your chicken? :|

When I was a boy I watched an old woman choking her son's chicken, it took ages as she didn't have much strength, the old ways were awful.
2 Likes #23
airfix
TWhen I was a boy I watched an old woman choking her son's chicken, it took ages as she didn't have much strength, the old ways were awful.

You should of offered to lend a hand? oO
2 Likes #24
OldEnglish
You should of offered to lend a hand? oO

No way it was horrible, she even ate it afterwards.
#25
airfix
OldEnglish
You should of offered to lend a hand? oO
No way it was horrible, she even ate it afterwards.
I have some very confused feelings right now.
#26
I know it's illegal now for landlords to refuse tenants having pets, but Is it legal for the landlord to up the rent? In lieu of damage for instance.
2 Likes #27
OldEnglish
You should of offered to lend a hand? oO

You should learn the difference between OF and HAVE.
1 Like #28
fr0d0
I know it's illegal now for landlords to refuse tenants having pets, but Is it legal for the landlord to up the rent? In lieu of damage for instance.

Utter rubbish.
No pets and no smokers in all my places.
#29
thedvdmonster
OldEnglish
airfix
TWhen I was a boy I watched an old woman choking her son's chicken, it took ages as she didn't have much strength, the old ways were awful.
You should of offered to lend a hand? oO
You should learn the difference between OF and HAVE.
https://68.media.tumblr.com/89b8bd4af5b06117e922cdb019b41335/tumblr_o9xa6uLFBU1uz2pdto1_250.gif
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#30
airfix
T
OldEnglish
I've heard you choke your chicken? :|
When I was a boy I watched an old woman choking her son's chicken, it took ages as she didn't have much strength, the old ways were awful.
I'll have to remember this. Now, if my wife asks if I know any good innuendos, I'll be able to give her one
1 Like #31
fr0d0
I know it's illegal now for landlords to refuse tenants having pets, but Is it legal for the landlord to up the rent? In lieu of damage for instance.


yes it is also legal for the landlord to ask for a huge deposit to pay for any potential damage to the property caused by pets. also most leases will state no pets allowed so how they are going to change the lease condition. sounds utter rubbish to me.

it is also legal for the landlord to rent his property to whom he pleases so he will just choose those without pets, not rocket science really.
4 Likes #32
mutley1
Sorry no pets allowed at our properties, except the one we live in 8)


Which pet do you live in?
4 Likes #33
mutley1
not rocket science really.


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1 Like #34
mutley1
takethatfan1978
Yeah and we all know that you can't control your dog when out X)
he is getting better actually as he has now calmed down from when we first got him from the rescue center. now he actually listens when we call him whereas before he didn't give a hoot.
our next dog will not come a rescue center as we will get a puppy and so we will get the dog trained from puppy age, which will mean the dog will be better behaved.

That depends on the training,just because you train it doesn't mean he/she will be well behaved. Just because your dog is a rescue it doesn't mean he can't be retrained,put in the work and you will be rewarded.

I have 2 labs and spend a lot of time training them both and wouldn't have it any other way. We spend a lot of time together and it's worth it.

I just can't see you willing to put in the time and effort going by the past sandwich episode X)



Edited By: takethatfan1978 on Jul 14, 2017 08:31: Spelling
#35
takethatfan1978
mutley1
takethatfan1978
Yeah and we all know that you can't control your dog when out X)
he is getting better actually as he has now calmed down from when we first got him from the rescue center. now he actually listens when we call him whereas before he didn't give a hoot.
our next dog will not come a rescue center as we will get a puppy and so we will get the dog trained from puppy age, which will mean the dog will be better behaved.
That depends on the training,just because you train it doesn't mean he/she will be well behaved. Just because your dog is a rescue it doesn't mean he can't be retrained,put in the work and you will be rewarded.
I have 2 labs and spend a lot of time training them both and wouldn't have it any other way. We spend a lot of time together and it's worth it.
I just can't see you willing to put in the time and effort going by the past sandwich episode X)

I don't think they were going to put the time in, they are going to get the dog trained not train the dog. Probably get someone to walk it, feed it and give it attention too. Basically like not having a dog really.
1 Like #36
My tenants are on holiday in Majorca at the moment. I think I might get them a few chickens as a surprise for when they get home just to show what a good landlady I am.
#37
psychobitchfromhell
My tenants are on holiday in Majorca at the moment. I think I might get them a few chickens as a surprise for when they get home just to show what a good landlady I am.

Lol. i can just see my tenants' faces if they came back from holiday and there were chickens in the house nesting on their beds as a present from me. lol
#38
mutley1
psychobitchfromhell
My tenants are on holiday in Majorca at the moment. I think I might get them a few chickens as a surprise for when they get home just to show what a good landlady I am.
Lol. i can just see my tenants' faces if they came back from holiday and there were chickens in the house nesting on their beds as a present from me. lol
There is a fairly big garden and I have some chicken wire and bamboo sticks in the garage. I could cobble together a nice little run for them in next to no time.
#39
psychobitchfromhell
There is a fairly big garden and I have some chicken wire and bamboo sticks in the garage. I could cobble together a nice little run for them in next to no time.

it won't be so funny if the chickens are in a pen. it would be funnier if they were in the house making themselves comfortable. lol lol
1 Like #40
yep
Fowl is legal & then you serve a section 21 & evict them

Silly thread

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