Help with brand new PC stuttering in gaming?

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Posted 4th May 2022
Hi, pretty nooby to pc gaming I’ve got a decent rig

RTX 3080 12GB ASUS TUF
I5 12400
16GB RAM DDR4 3200MHZ
1200W DARK POWER 12 PRO

how do I figure out what it causing it? not all games stutter but most do. I’ve ran driver easy and all my drivers are upto date. I have upgraded my GPU and PSU myself. I originally had a 3060 but was very underwhelming for the target I’m trying to achieve with either 120 ultra 1440p gaming or 4k @ 100fps +

Is there a software I could run to search for the problem? checked temps and they seem brilliant GPU maxed out at 66/67 degrees CPU about 55/60

I’m a loss as to why this is happening since it’s a brand new pc.

Any help guys many thanks in advance
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  1. EndlessWaves's avatar
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    Justsuperman04/05/2022 14:27

    120hz it runs at on hdmi 2.1 and I have V-sync on capped at 116fps I’ve c …120hz it runs at on hdmi 2.1 and I have V-sync on capped at 116fps I’ve checked control panel and it’s set at 120hz 4k


    You're outputting 116fps to a 120hz monitor with V-sync enabled? That may cause slight stuttering as it flips between 60fps and 120fps.

    Stuttering is a bit vague, can you show a frame time graph?
  2. awesome's avatar
    awesome
    Is XMP enabled? is the ram running at the correct speed?
  3. Justsuperman's avatar
    Justsuperman Author
    1mmaker04/05/2022 23:36

    Had something similar with a new build bought from Palicomp. Tried pretty …Had something similar with a new build bought from Palicomp. Tried pretty much everything suggested above and more. Just couldn't get the shuttering/orbs/flashing to go. They sent out a new 3080ti which was factory sealed. Installed it and bang, sorted.


    I mean it happened on my 3060 which was in the pre-built comp so it’s not a GPU thing
  4. t3rm3y's avatar
    t3rm3y
    Maybe its your monitor? Can it handle that resolution / frame rate?
  5. Justsuperman's avatar
    Justsuperman Author
    t3rm3y04/05/2022 14:25

    Maybe its your monitor? Can it handle that resolution / frame rate?


    Yes it’s the LG C2 42” OLED. 120hz it runs at on hdmi 2.1 and I have V-sync on capped at 116fps I’ve checked control panel and it’s set at 120hz 4k
  6. groenleader's avatar
    groenleader
    Maybe your trying to get the last 15% out of your set up and the CPU is the problem?

    Its a good CPU but if your saying your CPU is maxed out, the GPU should give a little more.
  7. Justsuperman's avatar
    Justsuperman Author
    groenleader04/05/2022 14:30

    Maybe your trying to get the last 15% out of your set up and the CPU is …Maybe your trying to get the last 15% out of your set up and the CPU is the problem?Its a good CPU but if your saying your CPU is maxed out, the GPU should give a little more.


    Cpu runs about 4-4.2ghz in game I don’t think it’s the CPU but idk.. What would be you’re suggestions
  8. groenleader's avatar
    groenleader
    What is the CPU load when this happens?

    Also have you checked all firmware and bios's are updated?
  9. t3rm3y's avatar
    t3rm3y
    SSD or harddrive bottleneck?
  10. oldboy64's avatar
    oldboy64
    If you are playing Elden Ring on your new pc it is known to have stuttering issues on pc!!
  11. Justsuperman's avatar
    Justsuperman Author
    t3rm3y04/05/2022 14:40

    SSD or harddrive bottleneck?


    I’m only running NVME’s pice 3.0 and 4.0 that’s it.

    They 100% wouldn’t bottleneck the system. it’s bugging me

    oldboy6404/05/2022 14:40

    If you are playing Elden Ring on your new pc it is known to have …If you are playing Elden Ring on your new pc it is known to have stuttering issues on pc!!


    I’m playing fornite and it’s stuttering (edited)
  12. slimy31's avatar
    slimy31
    Justsuperman04/05/2022 14:41

    I’m playing fornite and it’s stuttering


    Network issues? Assuming you're playing online.
  13. Justsuperman's avatar
    Justsuperman Author
    slimy3104/05/2022 14:50

    Network issues? Assuming you're playing online.


    I’m wired in on gigabit internet
  14. t3rm3y's avatar
    t3rm3y
    My last idea is your internet connection. Or wifi/ patch leads.?
  15. Justsuperman's avatar
    Justsuperman Author
    t3rm3y04/05/2022 14:51

    My last idea is your internet connection. Or wifi/ patch leads.?


    I’ve just searched up and my bios software is out of date is it easy to install?
  16. groenleader's avatar
    groenleader
    Justsuperman04/05/2022 14:52

    I’ve just searched up and my bios software is out of date is it easy to i …I’ve just searched up and my bios software is out of date is it easy to install?


    as i suggested! Download and and run it will do the rest
  17. TehJumpingJawa's avatar
    TehJumpingJawa
    Check that gsync is enabled.

    Also if you've got another monitor, test with that.
    If you've got another hdmi, or dp cable, test with that.
    Test at a lower resolution/refresh rate
  18. Justsuperman's avatar
    Justsuperman Author
    awesome04/05/2022 17:02

    Is XMP enabled? is the ram running at the correct speed?


    Yes
  19. Bargainhead's avatar
    Bargainhead
    Turn off vsync no need, just let it run. The gsync will take care of stutters on low frame rates. Also have you enabled the game settings on the tv,

    you also need a decent hdmi cable, I had issues when I first got the c1 but it was the cable. They are not all the same. Easiest way to test if you have a series x or ps5 use those cables..
  20. Bargainhead's avatar
    Bargainhead
    Also go in nvidia control panel and check settings, I had to manually put it onto the pc 4k to get it to output at 120fps..
  21. Justsuperman's avatar
    Justsuperman Author
    Ok so I’m stuck I’ve followed MSI’s video to a T! and I can’t update my BIOS Damn thing isn’t recognising the file even tho it’s on the USB drive FAT32 file system.

    I give up
  22. Justsuperman's avatar
    Justsuperman Author
    deleted192272204/05/2022 17:11

    Turn off vsync no need, just let it run. The gsync will take care of …Turn off vsync no need, just let it run. The gsync will take care of stutters on low frame rates. Also have you enabled the game settings on the tv, you also need a decent hdmi cable, I had issues when I first got the c1 but it was the cable. They are not all the same. Easiest way to test if you have a series x or ps5 use those cables..


    Nah the tearing still occurs unless I have GSYNC and Vsync enabled. I set my max FR to 117 and it will never disengage GSYNC then. and it’s set to 120hz in NC and my lg c2 system information displays it

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  23. TehJumpingJawa's avatar
    TehJumpingJawa
    Nvidia's gsync compatibility list states the LG C2 isn't yet supported.

    The list looks like it's upto date, as the 'driver needed' column goes all the way up to 512.59 (the most recent public driver release).

    If the gsync setting is indeed doing nothing in the current drivers, and you're running with vsync enabled, it'll likely be the cause of your stuttering.
    If you disable vsync, does the stuttering go away?


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  24. Justsuperman's avatar
    Justsuperman Author
    TehJumpingJawa04/05/2022 19:14

    Nvidia's gsync compatibility list states the LG C2 isn't yet supported.The …Nvidia's gsync compatibility list states the LG C2 isn't yet supported.The list looks like it's upto date, as the 'driver needed' column goes all the way up to 512.59 (the most recent public driver release).If the gsync setting is indeed doing nothing in the current drivers, and you're running with vsync enabled, it'll likely be the cause of your stuttering.If you disable vsync, does the stuttering go away?[Image]


    That’s strange???? my C2 states it’s enabled

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  25. Bargainhead's avatar
    Bargainhead
    Justsuperman04/05/2022 18:22

    Nah the tearing still occurs unless I have GSYNC and Vsync enabled. I set …Nah the tearing still occurs unless I have GSYNC and Vsync enabled. I set my max FR to 117 and it will never disengage GSYNC then. and it’s set to 120hz in NC and my lg c2 system information displays it [Image]


    vsync is pointless on a 3080, you may as well let it run, on r6 i can get 270fps at ultra 4k and tv only does 120fps but i leave vsync off. vsync isn't your issue have you tried a diffrent hdmi? gsync doesn't set it lowers fps to stop tearing, if you need driver for the gsync as stated above put freesync on the c2 and see if that helps it's open so gsync will work with it, till you get new driver.
  26. Justsuperman's avatar
    Justsuperman Author
    deleted192272204/05/2022 19:23

    vsync is pointless on a 3080, you may as well let it run, on r6 i can get …vsync is pointless on a 3080, you may as well let it run, on r6 i can get 270fps at ultra 4k and tv only does 120fps but i leave vsync off. vsync isn't your issue have you tried a diffrent hdmi? gsync doesn't set it lowers fps to stop tearing, if you need driver for the gsync as stated above put freesync on the c2 and see if that helps it's open so gsync will work with it, till you get new driver.


    I still get tearing badly with just g-sync. I watched this video recently and comments on this YT make sense

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    (edited)
  27. BigBoss85's avatar
    BigBoss85
    Try another hdmi cable or DP cable if it supports it.
  28. razo's avatar
    razo
    Suggest install MSI afterburner, configure the settings to show CPU and GPU usage, frequency, temp, and power, plus FPS and the frametime graph. Then post a screenshot(s) of the game when it's stuttering. That's the only way we'll be able to tell what's causing it.
  29. Bargainhead's avatar
    Bargainhead
    Justsuperman04/05/2022 19:46

    I still get tearing badly with just g-sync. I watched this video recently …I still get tearing badly with just g-sync. I watched this video recently and comments on this YT make sense [Image] [Video]


    it has to be your settings i been running a 3080 on a c1 since release and once i got a decent hdmi and set all the settings i've had no issues what so ever and i don't use vsync.

    nvidia control panel, under display, change resolution, i have it set under pc 3840x2160 and set at 120hz. it could be you need to go through each setting at a time. lower temps are better but they seem low for maxed out gaming.

    at 4k it's mainly gpu bound but could be cpu bottle neck. have you tried lower resolution to see if it still stutters? or set the fps to 60 to see if it stops stuttering...
  30. Justsuperman's avatar
    Justsuperman Author
    deleted192272204/05/2022 20:53

    it has to be your settings i been running a 3080 on a c1 since release and …it has to be your settings i been running a 3080 on a c1 since release and once i got a decent hdmi and set all the settings i've had no issues what so ever and i don't use vsync. nvidia control panel, under display, change resolution, i have it set under pc 3840x2160 and set at 120hz. it could be you need to go through each setting at a time. lower temps are better but they seem low for maxed out gaming.at 4k it's mainly gpu bound but could be cpu bottle neck. have you tried lower resolution to see if it still stutters? or set the fps to 60 to see if it stops stuttering...


    It’s one the s tier cards ‘ASUS TUF’ I always run msi afterburner with the statistics. it has a dual bios and I don’t run the quiet bios I run performance. I’m playing apex legends where it doesn’t stutter at all! 4k everything on ultra and it stays close to locked 120fps. GPU utilisation is at 90/95% and temps stay at 66 degrees. Its the FE cards that hit high 70’s early 80’s

    Anyway I have a very good hdmi 2.1 cable recommended by Vincent teoh from HDTV test.

    I will mess with some settings later see what changes! I also have the most overkill PSU known to man so I know it isn’t the PSU.

    I experience like 1-10 fps on loading screens and GPU rate at 2% during loading screens etc wondering if that’s normal
  31. Bargainhead's avatar
    Bargainhead
    Justsuperman04/05/2022 21:05

    It’s one the s tier cards ‘ASUS TUF’ I always run msi afterburner with the …It’s one the s tier cards ‘ASUS TUF’ I always run msi afterburner with the statistics. it has a dual bios and I don’t run the quiet bios I run performance. I’m playing apex legends where it doesn’t stutter at all! 4k everything on ultra and it stays close to locked 120fps. GPU utilisation is at 90/95% and temps stay at 66 degrees. Its the FE cards that hit high 70’s early 80’sAnyway I have a very good hdmi 2.1 cable recommended by Vincent teoh from HDTV test. I will mess with some settings later see what changes! I also have the most overkill PSU known to man so I know it isn’t the PSU. I experience like 1-10 fps on loading screens and GPU rate at 2% during loading screens etc wondering if that’s normal


    try a diffrent hdmi in case faulty as an idea. the thing with finding faults with pc's is going through everything one at a time and in the end it could be the simplest thing over looked..
  32. TehJumpingJawa's avatar
    TehJumpingJawa
    Be helpful to upload a video/capture demonstrating the stuttering.
  33. grv999's avatar
    grv999
    You sure it isn’t a setting on the tv? I have a CX and was experiencing judder while gaming until I fiddled with the settings. I can’t remember exactly what setting fixed it but all it took was a bit of Googling.
  34. Zek's avatar
    Zek
    Are you using a microsoft xbox controller with bluetooth? I had some stuttering before with it, had to download new drivers for it.
  35. Justsuperman's avatar
    Justsuperman Author
    Zek04/05/2022 23:18

    Are you using a microsoft xbox controller with bluetooth? I had some …Are you using a microsoft xbox controller with bluetooth? I had some stuttering before with it, had to download new drivers for it.


    Yes I am! how does one download new drivers for it? As my drivers say up to date
  36. Zek's avatar
    Zek
    First delete the Xbox wireless controller in bluetooth in settings
    then download: techspot.com/dri…48/
    Then go to "add bluetooth or other device", bluetooth and connect to the controller

    Should work better then, not sure why really!
  37. 1mmaker's avatar
    1mmaker
    Had something similar with a new build bought from Palicomp. Tried pretty much everything suggested above and more. Just couldn't get the shuttering/orbs/flashing to go. They sent out a new 3080ti which was factory sealed. Installed it and bang, sorted.
  38. Cliff_Richard's avatar
    Cliff_Richard
    Tried capping the framerate at 120 with Rtss and disabling Vysnc through Nvidia and in game?

    Might need to cap Rtss at something like 119.95fps If that don't work.
  39. Bargainhead's avatar
    Bargainhead
    So have you lower the resolution or limit FPS to 60 and tried to see if it still stutters? Because if it doesn’t it’s more info Or swap hdmi Incase of fault or are you just dismissing things you think are not the problem.
  40. Justsuperman's avatar
    Justsuperman Author
    Cliff_Richard05/05/2022 00:25

    Tried capping the framerate at 120 with Rtss and disabling Vysnc through …Tried capping the framerate at 120 with Rtss and disabling Vysnc through Nvidia and in game?Might need to cap Rtss at something like 119.95fps If that don't work.


    I’ve done a ton of research on this. I have to enable GSYNC and V-Sync to stop any tearing occurring. With just Gysnc or VRR I get tearing in the middle of the screen. gysnc and vsync work every well together with the frames capped at -3 below displays refresh rate
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