Posted 14 May 2022

Evri/Hermes being horrendous, or have I been scammed twice?

So, bit of a weird one. Received two packages from Evri today. One was supposed to contain an iphone 12 pro max, and another a pair of earphones. Unfortunately, it seems like the people at the Evri hub got a little greedy. Or did they?

The package that was supposed to have the iphone 12 pro max, instead had an empty box for a regular iphone 13. With this one, I'm in two minds as to whether its an Evri thing or if the seller was trying to scam me, as they delayed sending, syaing their brother had to post it out for them as they were in a different place for uni, and they were relatively new to ebay.

The second package containing the earphones didnt initially look like it had been tampered with, but when I opened it, it was just the box, with the earphones and all the accessories missing. Upon closer inspection, it did look like the top had been torn open, and then taped up to look normal. The seller has good feedback, so this one I'm pretty sure is Evri workers doing their thing.

Any thoughts?
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  1. .MUFC.'s avatar
    wayners14/05/2022 07:35

    Seems its nearly always mobile phones that appear to be empty boxes.What …Seems its nearly always mobile phones that appear to be empty boxes.What even happened to the idea of package weight being tracked? Anyway. Did you film yourself opening box? Either way contact sellers. Hope you sort it out


    Filming proves absolutely nothing.
  2. Thegratefuldoof's avatar
    Similar thing has just happened to me with an Evri delivery from eBay. Torn, empty box left on doorstep and no item inside. The photograph of the box on my doorstep doesn’t even show the full package. Conveniently the rips in the box have been cut out the photo when it was taken. The driver didn’t knock or ring doorbell. As soon as I received the email that delivery had been made, I was at my doorstep 30 seconds later and found the ripped box on my doorstep. I’m 2 floors up in a flat so I shouted down to the driver asking him if he just made the delivery for Evri and he said no. He then tried to make a delivery across the street and I saw the label on the parcel was of the same style as mine so I knew he was talking nonsense. Went downstairs and confronted him telling him that he’d left an empty box on my doorstep and didn’t ring the bell or knock the door when making the delivery. The guy clammed up when I confronted him. His behaviours were suspect to say the least so I reckon he’s pocketed the item and left the empty box on the doorstep in an attempt to scam me. I’ve got timestamped photos of the guy who delivered and also the registration of the van he delivered with. Contacted eBay and the seller I bought from so will hopefully be resolved soon one way or another. (edited)
  3. PS5's avatar
    Assuming it was an ebay purchase then the source of the issue isn't your problem. Raise a dispute with eBay immediately.
    It is up to the seller to claim from the courier and I wojld assume evri will be weighing packages and be able to determine if the iPhone was ever present, but that isn't your issue.
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    wayners14/05/2022 07:35

    Seems its nearly always mobile phones that appear to be empty boxes.What …Seems its nearly always mobile phones that appear to be empty boxes.What even happened to the idea of package weight being tracked? Anyway. Did you film yourself opening box? Either way contact sellers. Hope you sort it out



    I had a parcel collected by Herpes, sorry Hermes, before the name change - the courier had no way of weighing it so could easily have helped themselves to the contents and no one would be any the wiser - if they scan them at the depot and the item was already taken out, the weight through the rest of the parcels journey would have matched the first weight recorded.

    Poor system really and open to fraud
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    melted14/05/2022 11:12

    Good chance it is a scam, but I would have thought a scammer with an …Good chance it is a scam, but I would have thought a scammer with an iphone 13 box would be more likely to sell it as an iphone 13. If it was sold as second hand and the seller didn't keep the original box, then they might have used the box from their new iphone 13 to post it in.


    It's a weird one, for sure, but maybe that's what the delay was? They put a listing up with photos they found, and then needed to buy an iPhone box, and that was the quickest/cheapest one they could find? I don't know, but whatever the story is, it doesn't add up to a legitimate sale.
  6. angie555's avatar
    I sent a high value item on the Friday, I paid for guaranteed tracked signed for delivery with the product being insured up to £500
    Therefore if it went missing I could claim £500 and reimburse the buyer.

    I did have problems with Royal mail I used that particular service some weeks ago and my parcel ended up in their retention centre so I immediately refunded the buyer.

    This is a scam artist
    He sent it he should do his investigations, open up a case against him if he is not going to refund you immediately

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    angie55515/05/2022 09:48

    I sent a high value item on the Friday, I paid for guaranteed tracked …I sent a high value item on the Friday, I paid for guaranteed tracked signed for delivery with the product being insured up to £500Therefore if it went missing I could claim £500 and reimburse the buyer.I did have problems with Royal mail I used that particular service some weeks ago and my parcel ended up in their retention centre so I immediately refunded the buyer.This is a scam artistHe sent it he should do his investigations, open up a case against him if he is not going to refund you immediately


    Yep, everything I send, I make sure it's fully insured in case of loss. Unfortunately, a lot of sellers don't bother.

    Yeah, just running down the clock until I can get ebay to step in.
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    melted15/05/2022 11:37

    Scammer, almost certainly, artist not! It does sound like a very …Scammer, almost certainly, artist not! It does sound like a very competent scam, I can't see how he even expects to profit if he hasn't paid for courier insurance to claim for a supposed theft, unless he somehow convinces the OP not to pursue a dispute on ebay.


    I think thats what he's trying to do, lay the blame on me and hope that I won't take this further. Or hope that I'd be dumb enough to go after Evri myself and absolve him of the responsibility. Not happening!
  9. bobdylan's avatar
    .MUFC.14/05/2022 08:44

    Filming proves absolutely nothing.


    Yeah I do wonder why people keep saying to do this, utterly pointless
  10. wayners's avatar
    Seems its nearly always mobile phones that appear to be empty boxes.
    What even happened to the idea of package weight being tracked?

    Anyway. Did you film yourself opening box? Either way contact sellers. Hope you sort it out (edited)
  11. joedastudd's avatar
    Sounds like the seller was a scammer tbh. Buying electricals from eBay from private sellers is incredibly hit and miss to the point I would buy anything over £5-10 in value without I was collecting in person.
  12. Gingerdan's avatar
    Not sure how evri/Hermes staff would know what’s supposed to be in each parcel to know which parcels to open. Only way would be for them to open every parcel and can’t see that happening.

    the phone clearly sounds like a scam from the seller on eBay - delays, someone else posting etc.
  13. bracey100's avatar
    ebay 1 sounds like a scam keep the message for when u open a case
  14. Griffinpark1982's avatar
    I had a similar issue with a Tab S7 Plus I ordered from eBay although in the end, PayPal closed the case in my favour. It took a month to sort it out!
  15. Azwipe's avatar
    You must be the unluckiest person on earth, what are the odds of this happening with 2 items from different sellers at the same time.
  16. bozo007's avatar
    Azwipe14/05/2022 09:07

    You must be the unluckiest person on earth, what are the odds of this …You must be the unluckiest person on earth, what are the odds of this happening with 2 items from different sellers at the same time.


    Same local delivery hub.
  17. lolmonster88's avatar
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    PS514/05/2022 08:37

    Assuming it was an ebay purchase then the source of the issue isn't your …Assuming it was an ebay purchase then the source of the issue isn't your problem. Raise a dispute with eBay immediately.It is up to the seller to claim from the courier and I wojld assume evri will be weighing packages and be able to determine if the iPhone was ever present, but that isn't your issue.


    Oh I know, that's already been done for both. I was just curious about what others thought. Before this, I'd always been a bit of a Hermes apologist. Sure, I'd had a few things get lost, but never had anything like this. Admittedly, anytime I had used hermes, it had been through packlink, and they're usually good at chasing up and then providing compensation if things got lost.

    Gingerdan14/05/2022 08:37

    Not sure how evri/Hermes staff would know what’s supposed to be in each p …Not sure how evri/Hermes staff would know what’s supposed to be in each parcel to know which parcels to open. Only way would be for them to open every parcel and can’t see that happening.the phone clearly sounds like a scam from the seller on eBay - delays, someone else posting etc.


    That's what makes me think the first one is a scam. Even if they did open it to take out the phone, why in the world would they replace the box with a box for a different model?

    Unfortunately, both were just sent in jiffy bags, so I guess it would be fairly easy to determine what was inside them. (edited)
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    lolmonster8814/05/2022 10:03

    Oh I know, that's already been done for both. I was just curious about …Oh I know, that's already been done for both. I was just curious about what others thought. Before this, I'd always been a bit of a Hermes apologist. Sure, I'd had a few things get lost, but never had anything like this. Admittedly, anytime I had used hermes, it had been through packlink, and they're usually good at chasing up and then providing compensation if things got lost.That's what makes me think the first one is a scam. Even if they did open it to take out the phone, why in the world would they replace the box with a box for a different model? Unfortunately, both were just sent in jiffy bags, so I guess it would be fairly easy to determine what was inside them.


    I often wonder, with the thousands of parcels Hermes/Evri deliver, how would a courier or depot staff know which ones to open, unless its purely picking at random.
    My boys are for ever ordering clothes on line, most delivered by Hermes/Evri, none have gone missing. So maybe if sending keep hold off an old ASOS packaging to have a better chance of reaching the recipient
  19. melted's avatar
    lolmonster8814/05/2022 10:03

    That's what makes me think the first one is a scam. Even if they did open …That's what makes me think the first one is a scam. Even if they did open it to take out the phone, why in the world would they replace the box with a box for a different model? Unfortunately, both were just sent in jiffy bags, so I guess it would be fairly easy to determine what was inside them.


    Good chance it is a scam, but I would have thought a scammer with an iphone 13 box would be more likely to sell it as an iphone 13. If it was sold as second hand and the seller didn't keep the original box, then they might have used the box from their new iphone 13 to post it in.
  20. Mr.Plow's avatar
    If it's an eBay purchase, it doesn't matter who the delivery company was, as far as you're concerned you didn't get what you paid for so it's an item not as described claim. (edited)
  21. angie555's avatar
    lolmonster8814/05/2022 10:03

    Oh I know, that's already been done for both. I was just curious about …Oh I know, that's already been done for both. I was just curious about what others thought. Before this, I'd always been a bit of a Hermes apologist. Sure, I'd had a few things get lost, but never had anything like this. Admittedly, anytime I had used hermes, it had been through packlink, and they're usually good at chasing up and then providing compensation if things got lost.That's what makes me think the first one is a scam. Even if they did open it to take out the phone, why in the world would they replace the box with a box for a different model? Unfortunately, both were just sent in jiffy bags, so I guess it would be fairly easy to determine what was inside them.


    All sounds really suspicious, if I was selling something of high value I would have it well wrapped up so that the courier people couldn't see what was in it therefore they would not be tempted to steal it.
    I would not trust Hermes I would use Royal mail special delivery tracked and signed for
  22. lolmonster88's avatar
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    angie55514/05/2022 20:06

    All sounds really suspicious, if I was selling something of high value I …All sounds really suspicious, if I was selling something of high value I would have it well wrapped up so that the courier people couldn't see what was in it therefore they would not be tempted to steal it.I would not trust Hermes I would use Royal mail special delivery tracked and signed for


    Yeah, another reason why I think it was a scam attempt. There is no way it was sent fully insured. They've just told me to take it up with evri. Told them that's not my problem. Even if I have to wait a few days for ebay to step in, thats fine by me.
  23. melted's avatar
    angie55515/05/2022 09:48

    This is a scam artistHe sent it he should do his investigations, open up a …This is a scam artistHe sent it he should do his investigations, open up a case against him if he is not going to refund you immediately


    Scammer, almost certainly, artist not!

    It doesn't sound like a very competent scam, I can't see how he even expects to profit if he hasn't paid for courier insurance to claim for a supposed theft, unless he somehow convinces the OP not to pursue a dispute on ebay. (edited)
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