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note that this is 35mm film camera:)

Does anyone use 35mm film cameras any more? :?

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withabix;2315611

Does anyone use 35mm film cameras any more? :?


only the experts and professionals 35mm will never die out its like vinal

raptorcigs;2315622

only the experts and professionals 35mm will never die out its like vinal



Vinyl?

But experts and professionals wouldn't be seen dead with anything this cheap!

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withabix;2315632

Vinyl?But experts and professionals wouldn't be seen dead with anything … Vinyl?But experts and professionals wouldn't be seen dead with anything this cheap!


yes but if you are starting out this is a great first step camera

The Minolta Dynax deal posted on here a while back was a better offer I think.

Not a bad price, great camera. Can get it cheaper body only.

Banned

Surely the likes of the SONY A200 DSLR KIT delivered for £279.99 from amazon makes this dead in the water.

raptorcigs;2315622

only the experts and professionals 35mm will never die out its like vinal



Yes, and cine film is so much better than video!

Dead technology, except for artists and pedants.

Voted cold.Experts and professionals do not use film cameras anymore.They move with the times and have gone to digital.

That's not the point. If you want a film camera, this is a good one at a good price.

There are some stunning second hand bargains around, mind you.

... and expecting an amateur to 'learn' by waiting to get film developed, not to mention the inherent cost of processing and the lack of a fire and forget mentality that digital gives you frankly makes this (imo) totally unappealing.

and yes, the thought of a pro using a *35mm* film camera is very rose-tinted

Get one on eBay this is way over priced.

I wanted to get a better camera and I read up on digi v's 35mm and bought on the basis of picture quality. Do I ever blow the image up to massive proportions no. In fact my canon £35 p&s was better in some cases!

Thankfully I re-sold it on eBay and only lost a few quid. Digital is definitely the future and I would seriously recommend people not to make the mistake I did, it'll cost you in the end. Not buying film & processing is also so much cheaper and you don’t even have to leave the house.

raptorcigs;2315652

yes but if you are starting out this is a great first step camera



Not really. If you're just starting out, the instant-preview of digital cameras is a massive benefit over ye olde chemical cameras. Who wants to spend a tenner just to experiment with shutter times 36 times? Go digital.

dxx;2316666

Not really. If you're just starting out, the instant-preview of digital … Not really. If you're just starting out, the instant-preview of digital cameras is a massive benefit over ye olde chemical cameras. Who wants to spend a tenner just to experiment with shutter times 36 times? Go digital.



Agreed, the results are instant and free. You can snap till your finger drops, without worrying about costs and being disappointed when you get you processed film back.

There's a lot of misinformation in this thread.

1) Professionals do still use 35mm film cameras, you'll still see 35mm slides in National Geographic - though not with this particular camera and lens.

2) This lens isn't particuarly sharp at all and is not worth getting. The best value for money lens for a low budget would be the EF 50mm f/1.8 that costs around 60 quid new.

3) It's still expensive for the product in question, compared to other vendors, so voted cold.

4) Why buy this consumer grade camera when you can pick up a slightly used EOS 30 with eye controlled focusing, DOF preview, mirror lock-up and battery grip for about £80 on ebay, that used to cost around 500 quid? Stretching to £150 will get you an EOS 1n, which used to cost a grand and is an amazing piece of kit.

5) To get the equivalent quality of 35mm Velvia or Kodachrome from a digital camera means you'll have to spend over a grand at least, whereas you can do it for dirt cheap with a film camera. If you need an LCD screen in 95% of cases it's because your photographic skills are lacking and you don't know enough about your gear and how to use it.

6) Certain looks from film cannot be replicated convicingly using digital. Grain can be attractive and doesn't put someone off an image like horrible digital noise does, and it's currently impossible to make a DSLR replicate the look of quality black and white film or Kodachrome, it just doesn't look right in photoshop.


And to whoever thinks videotape killed cine film, you can still buy Super 8 film from Kodak and probably will be able to for years to come, whereas HD camcorders with hard drives are replacing SD tape cams very quickly. Amateurs might have dumped cine en masse to use camcorders with flat, washed out colours and cheap, quick tapes, but those actually serious about making MOVIES themselves have stuck with cine film hence why it's still around. Also, Kodachrome movies from the 1950's look just as vibrant today, but camcorder tapes in 60 years time will be completely deteriorated and gone forever.

bainzy;2335248

Amateurs might have dumped cine en masse to use camcorders with flat, … Amateurs might have dumped cine en masse to use camcorders with flat, washed out colours and cheap, quick tapes, but those actually serious about making MOVIES themselves have stuck with cine film hence why it's still around.



My home videos do not have "flat, washed out colours" and fulfil exactly the purpose for which I use them. This is to instantly, simply and cheaply capture events that I wish to record, without the need for post-processing, a cine projector and a darkened room!

I can also edit the video footage easier and more professionally than cine film.

I agree that professionals may still prfer to use film stock, but there are also a large amount of professionals that use video instead of film.

As for whether images will still be on the tape in 60 years, we will have to wait and see. The images that i recorded on 8mm video tape back in 1991 are still as recorded, so 17 years has not produced any noticeable deterioration. I have also transferred some of these tapes on to DVD, so have two bites of the cherry.
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