10 litres of Adblue (needed for newer diesel cars) for £9.99 (was £19.99) at Unipart Autostores.  Much more elsewhere!
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10 litres of Adblue (needed for newer diesel cars) for £9.99 (was £19.99) at Unipart Autostores. Much more elsewhere!

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Found 26th Apr 2016
Last year I got a car which uses Adblue (Diesel Exhaust Fluid) to keep emissions legal and recently it started telling me it needed a refill (takes about 12 litres from empty). Franchised dealer wanted £3.50/litre to fill it bulk in their workshop or £8 for each 1.89 litre bottle to 'take away'. Terrible rip off and I've heard some places charge much more. Shell fuel station wanted £10 for 1.9 litres!

I did some shopping around and cheapest place I could find on the high street was Halford: £14.99 for 4 litres.

Internet search came up with Unipart Autostore currently doing a half price deal: £9.99 for a full 10 litres. Cheaper than the others by mile.

£3.75 shipping if you don't have a store nearby. Heavy item but maybe you can get more than one for a single shipping charge?

A bit of a limited interest item for now but all newer diesel road vehicles need this stuff so more and more will be around soon. Looks like most places are a rip-off for now though.
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What car you got that needs the stuff?
didn't know try had started using this on cars but a few petrol stations have this at the side of the diesel pump for lorries just put in amount you need
Get it from a lot of petrol stations. 55p a litre. I put it in my truck. Never heard of a car that used it though.
I'd never heard of this before. Thanks for the heads up OP. When it comes to buying my next car, I'll know what I need to avoid.
kevsoth

Get it from a lot of petrol stations. 55p a litre. I put it in my truck. … Get it from a lot of petrol stations. 55p a litre. I put it in my truck. Never heard of a car that used it though.



​most, or possibly all, of the current VW group cars use this
I have a 2015 Skoda fabia diesel am I suppose to be using this? is this a bit like redex surely this is not compulsory.
"Most vehicles driven by diesel – both commercial vehicles and passenger cars – produced from the 1st of Sept 2014 need to be equipped with Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) technology, in order meet the standards of European exhaust restrictions (Euro 6), and hence need AdBlue® as a NOx reduction agent.

AdBlue® should only be used in diesel vehicles equipped with SCR technology according to the instructions in the driver's handbook."
Its a pure form of urea (someone is taking the pee).
I,d imagine most euro 6 cars need it now days the Citroëns and Peugeots do, the dealers should do 9.99 fixed price 10ltr top up part of psa fixed pricing
marty-401

Its a pure form of urea (someone is taking the pee).



Yep most modern Diesel engines from approx September 2016 will have this. That's when Eu6.1 comes in. Currently it's all VW diesel engined vehicles of around 2L+.

Currently most manufacturers get away with out it by using other methods of reducing NOx emissions.
55p per litre at HGV stations, wife's 65 plate Tiguan needs it
My RR Evoque uses this (2016 model), but afaik you can just call at the dealers and they top it up for free.
Check out findadblue.com/ You can search for stations where you can fill up from a pump for around 55p a litre. Check the location details carefully though, it's very much aimed at commercial drivers, and some sites only take fuel cards.
liamm123

Yep most modern Diesel engines from approx September 2016 will have this. … Yep most modern Diesel engines from approx September 2016 will have this. That's when Eu6.1 comes in. Currently it's all VW diesel engined vehicles of around 2L+. Currently most manufacturers get away with out it by using other methods of reducing NOx emissions.


We might be out the EU by then so the regulation shouldn't apply.
stuarthanley

We might be out the EU by then so the regulation shouldn't apply.



In which we'd probably pickup US regulations given they're the only ones that haven't been hampered by manufacturers that sell predominantly diesel engines (the French ones ) to make it look like cars are more fuel efficient than they are. EU vehicle regulations are miles behind the US and we would be better off without them.
118luke

My RR Evoque uses this (2016 model), but afaik you can just call at the … My RR Evoque uses this (2016 model), but afaik you can just call at the dealers and they top it up for free.



Thought the free refill was only for the first time it needs a top up, other times it's costs you.
Many Coop petrol stations sell it (some have it on pump too) at £14.99 for 10l. Whole not as cheap as the above deal cheaper than Shell and the like.
Ud need more than this stuff to make a vw run clean!
always been for last 10 years near £10 for 10 liters at many garages for small purchase but bulk buyer usually cost 40-46 pence per litre. £20 complete rip off!
Mainly VAG cars I believe, and only a few of them. It's not in the 150bhp 2ltr for example. You would know if your car needs it, as it won't run when you run out

Edited by: "szigmon123" 26th Apr 2016
marty-401

Its a pure form of urea (someone is taking the pee).



And selling it.!
The vw passat alltrack deal that was on here needs add blue.
How many miles do you get per litre of add blue?
Not sure how true this is but I was told that the human nose can filter down to 10 microns.

Thoracic Dust
Particles that will pass through the nose and throat, reaching the lungs. Particles of 10 microns diameter and less. Referred to as PM10 in the USA.

Respirable Dust
Particles that will penetrate into the gas exchange region of the lungs. A hazardous particulate size less than 5 microns. Particle sizes of 2.5 micron (PM2.5) are often used in USA.
So now that the emissions are filtered down to 5 microns we can now all sleep well knowing that only the really harmful particles are left floating around!!!
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marty-401

Not sure how true this is but I was told that the human nose can filter … Not sure how true this is but I was told that the human nose can filter down to 10 microns. Thoracic DustParticles that will pass through the nose and throat, reaching the lungs. Particles of 10 microns diameter and less. Referred to as PM10 in the USA.Respirable DustParticles that will penetrate into the gas exchange region of the lungs. A hazardous particulate size less than 5 microns. Particle sizes of 2.5 micron (PM2.5) are often used in USA.So now that the emissions are filtered down to 5 microns we can now all sleep well knowing that only the really harmful particles are left floating around!!!


Particulates are a completely different issue. It's what the DPF is for.

Adblue is for changing NOx (harmful gaseous oxides of nitrogen) into nitrogen and water.

Increasingly pretty much all diesel cars will need it.

Mine is a Discovery Sport (with the new 'Ingenium' engine). Got the refill warning after about 5,000 miles, which seems early but it does mostly short journeys so maybe that's an issue?
simpsod1

55p per litre at HGV stations, wife's 65 plate Tiguan needs it



Yeah you can go to "dumb" HGV surface sites (the take debit cards as well as fuel cards now mostly) rough estimate is that it's generally half the price per litre to the current diesel price. In most HGV's they will go into "limp" mode if they run dry and sometimes require a sensor reset also. Been in the Renault's/Volvo's for years now.


Edited by: "cecilmcroberts" 27th Apr 2016
not for most diesel cars. not to be added to fuel tank! you'll know if you need it!!
Besford

Particulates are a completely different issue. It's what the DPF is … Particulates are a completely different issue. It's what the DPF is for.Adblue is for changing NOx (harmful gaseous oxides of nitrogen) into nitrogen and water.Increasingly pretty much all diesel cars will need it.Mine is a Discovery Sport (with the new 'Ingenium' engine). Got the refill warning after about 5,000 miles, which seems early but it does mostly short journeys so maybe that's an issue?


Sorry I was generalising about the modern/cleaner diesel engines. The dpf does (as far as I know) filter down to 5 microns.....leaving us all to enjoy the really dangerous stuff to enter our bodies undetected.
szigmon123

Mainly VAG cars I believe, and only a few of them. It's not in the 150bhp … Mainly VAG cars I believe, and only a few of them. It's not in the 150bhp 2ltr for example. You would know if your car needs it, as it won't run when you run out



Not so, my Yeti 150bhp 2ltr uses Adblue, but it's the 4x4 version, I think the 2 wheel drive 150bhp cars don't need it. I read that it's dictated by the emissions levels, so the 4 wheel drive + additional weight must push it over the emission threshold where adblue/SCR is required.
My VW built car just tells lies about emissions. Nice car but hopeless with the truth.
Skoda dealer tops mine up for free whenever I'm passing. I did post a deal of theirs on here which got them a lot of business though so maybe that helped.
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cecilmcroberts

Yeah you can go to "dumb" HGV surface sites (the take debit cards as well … Yeah you can go to "dumb" HGV surface sites (the take debit cards as well as fuel cards now mostly) rough estimate is that it's generally half the price per litre to the current diesel price. In most HGV's they will go into "limp" mode if they run dry and sometimes require a sensor reset also. Been in the Renault's/Volvo's for years now.


I've been warned NOT to use HGV pumps - Adblue dispensed under pressure will damage my vehicle's system.
Passing the responsibility on to the consumer - yeah that's totally going to solve the pollution health crisis
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robodan918

Passing the responsibility on to the consumer - yeah that's totally going … Passing the responsibility on to the consumer - yeah that's totally going to solve the pollution health crisis


If you don't keep it topped up the car won't run - has to be programmed that way to meet homologation.
Besford

If you don't keep it topped up the car won't run - has to be programmed … If you don't keep it topped up the car won't run - has to be programmed that way to meet homologation.


EGR delete kit
whenever the manufacturer half-assedly builds in an anti-pollution measure the consumer will find a way around it.
Making YET ANOTHER fluid the owner needs to buy makes a delete-kit or chip flash a much more mainstream option. Consumers won't comply
robodan918

EGR delete kitwhenever the manufacturer half-assedly builds in an … EGR delete kitwhenever the manufacturer half-assedly builds in an anti-pollution measure the consumer will find a way around it. Making YET ANOTHER fluid the owner needs to buy makes a delete-kit or chip flash a much more mainstream option. Consumers won't comply



A small proportion of consumers won't but the majority will as they will have no idea on how to workaround these features and the MOT is getting stricter around these mods. Half-assedly or poorly tested pollution solutions appear to have pushed significant costs back to the consumers in recent years with DPF replacements, EGR valves failing/poor consistent acceleration or just generally bad ECU maps. I'm all for saving the planet but not at additional unforeseen large expenses and poor driving experience.

So how often does this stuff need to be topped up?
Edited by: "welshblob" 27th Apr 2016
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welshblob

A small proportion of consumers won't but the majority will as they will … A small proportion of consumers won't but the majority will as they will have no idea on how to workaround these features and the MOT is getting stricter around these mods. Half-assedly or poorly tested pollution solutions appear to have pushed significant costs back to the consumers in recent years with DPF replacements, EGR valves failing/poor consistent acceleration or just generally bad ECU maps. I'm all for saving the planet but not at additional unforeseen large expenses and poor driving experience. So how often does this stuff need to be topped up?


Mine came up with a warning at 5,000 miles, which seemed early. Don't know if it was completely full when supplied though and I do a lot of short journeys which probably doesn't help. Around 500 miles per litre if my single experience is accurate: not too bad at £1/litre as here (ie less than £1 extra for each tank of diesel) but ridiculous at dealer prices.
I can't see many people buying (or more likely leasing) a new £40,000 vehicle messing with the ECU/emissions system. As this is supposed to get rid of 80% of nasty NOx why would you do that anyway?
Edited by: "Besford" 27th Apr 2016
Besford

Mine came up with a warning at 5,000 miles, which seemed early. Don't … Mine came up with a warning at 5,000 miles, which seemed early. Don't know if it was completely full when supplied though and I do a lot of short journeys which probably doesn't help. Around 500 miles per litre if my single experience is accurate: not too bad at £1/litre as here (ie less than £1 extra for each tank of diesel) but ridiculous at dealer prices.I can't see many people buying (or more likely leasing) a new £40,000 vehicle messing with the ECU/emissions system. As this is supposed to get rid of 80% of nasty NOx why would you do that anyway?



Just to state I got my will and won't round the wrong way .... small majority will mod their cars, majority won't ... good point about the new car/leasing aspect although I know VW DPF issues became annoying for my colleagues who had them as company cars a few years ago even though this was fully covered by the policy. I guess most modding will happen on the 2nd hand market especially if these things start failing.

Edited by: "welshblob" 27th Apr 2016
My Jag XE needed three bottles after 900 miles.. £7 quid a pop at the Jag Garage !!
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Snarling Shark

My Jag XE needed three bottles after 900 miles.. £7 quid a pop at the … My Jag XE needed three bottles after 900 miles.. £7 quid a pop at the Jag Garage !!


£7 - for those 1.9 litre bottles I guess?
Was this designed by VW to make their cars cleaner haha. One of our directors has an Audi a6 and that needs adblue.

If there are any of you guys out there who like working on your cars, know your way round a PC and want to cut out the dealer for a dpf regen or oil reset, then get yourself a ds150e diagnostic unit. Got one for my Mazda 6 as I don't like paying the stealer £129.99 for an oil change. I can do everything the dealer can do. Oil dilution reset, dpf regen, dpf reset learned values etc etc. It does most cars.
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