1000Mbps powerline adapters - Belkin double pack £49.99 delivered @ Play
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1000Mbps powerline adapters - Belkin double pack £49.99 delivered @ Play

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Found 9th May 2012
Very fast, very cheap home networking.

Prices seem to be around £130 for the double pack elsewhere so for under 50 quid delivered, this seems like a bargain.
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Not voted hot or cold, but just to let potential purchasers know - a lot of people seem to think these are poor. They complain that they are slower than 200 Mbps one? Dunno how that can be; I've just ordered Devolo 200 MBps ones...
Remind me what these are for? N00b
Bad performance and range.
sidney69

Remind me what these are for? N00b



To create a wired network in your house using the eletrical sockets. Useful if your wireless signal is poor. Connect one to your router and the other(s) to your computers or PS3 etc in other rooms. Simple and effective
I nearly bought these a while back for a few pence more until I was directed to reviews.

pcpro.co.uk/rev…kit is reasonably balanced. Others either rather liked them or hated them.

Depending upon your setup you might do well with them, but there were too many little niggles for me.

Incredibly poor for me. Used a variety of powerline adaptors in my house, some great, some bad. These were the worst. Even after updating the firmware it would barely connect from one room to the next. My current pair goes upstairs and relatively fast, these wouldn't even acknowledge each other.
There's a reason they're cheap.
OFCOM are on the verge of banning them as they totally f*ck up DAB reception for hundreds of yards.
Lol.
Don't expect them to reach 1 Gigabit, they're marketing ridiculous claims on powerline devices for some reason, so check reviews with benchmarks. I'd bet it's around 120-150 Mbps real speed at a guess.
tallpete33

To create a wired network in your house using the eletrical sockets. … To create a wired network in your house using the eletrical sockets. Useful if your wireless signal is poor. Connect one to your router and the other(s) to your computers or PS3 etc in other rooms. Simple and effective



PS3?

iirc people want less lagg not more of it, these things are terrible for online gaming, skype, etc where you need the data in real time.

they are on the other hand great for everything else.

i would suggest people look at getting a better router and adapters first, than going down this route, as it is incompatible with some peoples homes.
I was looking at the below ones jusr earlier:

amazon.co.uk/gp/…8-1

Anybody got/tried these? Im tired of lugging my router up and down the stairs and plugging in depending on what machine im using!
These devices are likely to get banned by OFCOM due to their interference with other digital devices reliant on radio communications, such as emergency equipment, DAB radios, WiFi devices and mobile phones. Best bet is to avoid buying this and all further future complications. Linky
I paid a similar price from Dell back in January using the discount codes that were around at the time (now £89.99). I had mixed results depending on where these were plugged in. As described in the pcpro article, they ran great over short distances and on the same ring, but away from this the performance tanked. They also got pretty hot which you'll also see mentioned in some reviews. I've now hard wired instead.
I'm curious to understand why ofcom will ban these. Don't see the link between 'wired' Powerline adaptor and DAB radio.

Also I (and many others) got a 200mbps powerline adaptor from play a few months ago and that was worse than the 85mbps ones or even wireless G. So it's totally possible this 1000mbps will be nothing of the sort.

Finally even if this did run on 1000mbps, wouldn't you need a gigabit router and ensure the devices you're going to use it with support gigabit to make full use of it? I don't think anything of mine has gigabit so the 200 is fine for me.
Edited by: "Mebster" 10th May 2012

I'm curious to understand why ofcom will ban these. Don't see the link … I'm curious to understand why ofcom will ban these. Don't see the link between 'wired' Powerline adaptor and DAB radio.


Powerline adapters cause interference on certain freq's, they usually avoid this due to a 'notching' facility within the Powerline firmware but I'm not sure if every manufacturer adheres or if it's an acceptable fix.

Start point: GCHQ man: Powerline networks do interfere with radio / Comtrend/Powerline Networking Interference to Aeronautical Frequencies
Not sure how big the problem is, seems to be a lot of FUD spread around the subject from both sides.

Mebster

Also I (and many others) got a 200mbps powerline adaptor from play a few … Also I (and many others) got a 200mbps powerline adaptor from play a few months ago and that was worse than the 85mbps ones or even wireless G. So it's totally possible this 1000mbps will be nothing of the sort.


Aye, 200mb is the COMBINED theoretical speeds (ie 100 up & 100 down) so the max you'll ever get is 100 up/down - but of course that's in lab conditions & some real world situations/buildings/wiring etc means it won't work for everyone.

Bottom line for MOST scenarios: Ethernet > Powerline > Wifi, however your mileage may vary

In other news: Belkin networking kit? No thanks, they make fantastic cables, but have been making routers/networking kit for around a decade & still haven't got it right.

Still voted hot as it's a good price for the item

iirc people want less lagg not more of it, these things are terrible for … iirc people want less lagg not more of it, these things are terrible for online gaming, skype, etc where you need the data in real time.


PLAs are great for online gaming, thing is it encypts before sending through the ring main, but you can turn encryption off, then it's awesome for gaming.

Best not to though if you *ahem* share your ring...
Edited by: "northernlights" 10th May 2012
So am I right in saying ofcom want to ban these, however remain absolutely ignorant to the new 4G signal which is going to cause soooooo many problems for sooooo many people with their freeview and other equipment. Money talks??
Thanks northernlight for the explaination!
These are crap simply did not work, I returned them and replaced them with 200mbps NetGear ones which worked perfectly.
ShaunnyBwoy

These devices are likely to get banned by OFCOM due to their interference … These devices are likely to get banned by OFCOM due to their interference with other digital devices reliant on radio communications, such as emergency equipment, DAB radios, WiFi devices and mobile phones. Best bet is to avoid buying this and all further future complications. Linky

What a mentalist in that link. Makes me want to buy some of these just to annoy that tinfoil-hat-wearing weirdo!

Any evidence from sane people?

I'm curious to understand why ofcom will ban these. Don't see the link … I'm curious to understand why ofcom will ban these. Don't see the link between 'wired' Powerline adaptor and DAB radio.

Mebster

Also I (and many others) got a 200mbps powerline adaptor from play a few … Also I (and many others) got a 200mbps powerline adaptor from play a few months ago and that was worse than the 85mbps ones or even wireless G. So it's totally possible this 1000mbps will be nothing of the sort.

iirc people want less lagg not more of it, these things are terrible for … iirc people want less lagg not more of it, these things are terrible for online gaming, skype, etc where you need the data in real time.



Fascinating post. I'm a heavy user of Wifi, as a matter of fact it's my primary method of using the internet at home. Most of my devices connect via wifi. To that end, I'm disappointed that wifi is currently regarded as a distant third-place finisher behind powerline and ethernet.
amazing £130 elsewhere yet rrp here 119
ShaunnyBwoy

These devices are likely to get banned by OFCOM due to their interference … These devices are likely to get banned by OFCOM due to their interference with other digital devices reliant on radio communications, such as emergency equipment, DAB radios, WiFi devices and mobile phones. Best bet is to avoid buying this and all further future complications. Linky



That link you provided seems to suggest the opposite - that no ban by OFCOM is even likely. Latest wifi standard 802.11ac has been passed and in theory should treble throughput speeds. That might be a better bet in the long run for some. Some hardware has been announced already.

theverge.com/201…ity
golfer2007

So am I right in saying ofcom want to ban these, however remain … So am I right in saying ofcom want to ban these, however remain absolutely ignorant to the new 4G signal which is going to cause soooooo many problems for sooooo many people with their freeview and other equipment. Money talks??

Screw freeview. Based on outdated ideas, it shouldn't have been rolled out in the first place. Too much of a rush to make everything digital not realising how fast the digital world moves on. Now because of the huge sums spent on it we're stuck with that waste of bandwidth.
sidog

I was looking at the below ones jusr … I was looking at the below ones jusr earlier:http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/cr/B004INVKP4/ref=aw_d_cr_computers?qid=1336593526&sr=8-1Anybody got/tried these? Im tired of lugging my router up and down the stairs and plugging in depending on what machine im using!



I have 5 of these around my house and they work perfectly all the time, best purchase I made
ChewieT

These are crap simply did not work, I returned them and replaced them … These are crap simply did not work, I returned them and replaced them with 200mbps NetGear ones which worked perfectly.



Ditto, I got absolutely rubbish speeds from these. Replaced them with TP-Link 200Mb adapters and all good. Now got the Netgear 500Mb ones which fly and allow HD streaming with no stutter.
Go for Develo 500's, don't believe the specs on these, they lie!
Threlly

There's a reason they're cheap.OFCOM are on the verge of banning them as … There's a reason they're cheap.OFCOM are on the verge of banning them as they totally f*ck up DAB reception for hundreds of yards.Lol.



Someone has been posting this fairy story for years.
I have these and you can get just the same speed from an average set, 85mb. Over rated quoted performance. Only thing I found useful was they were real easy to set up.
Belkin + Networking = LOL
i've got a couple of these connected to gigabit switches, they manage about 200mbps. but note that that's 200mbps in each direction, the 200mbps devices have 100base-t ports on them so are limited to 100mbps in each direction, these have gigabit ports so are not saturated by the port itself. hd streaming works fine.

a lot better than 802.11g and i'm tempted to get some more considering that tp-link 200mbps kits are £35+

they do get fecking hot though, i wouldn't like to leave them plugged in and go on holiday.......

Edited by: "sej7278" 10th May 2012
StephenB

Someone has been posting this fairy story for years.



Nope, it's actually been proven, hence the investigation etc.
Ofcoms argument has been that one pair in a street will not have much effect, until the guys that found the problem, showed the investigators what happens when just two pairs are in use in a regular street.
NO DAB.
Then of course the DAB consortium got wind, cue **** behind closed doors.
Currently ongoing.

I'm just not buying them 'cos they're crap.
I've got a pair of Linksys 200mpbs ones, they're pretty rubbish too.

Oh yeah, COLD.
As far as wifi 802.11ac isnt that far away (Netgear should be dropping their first kit anytime in the next few months) massive improvement over 802.11g... if you have 802.11ac devices which we wont see popular for a while Im guessing.

Planning to get one though for point to point around the house.

Still bought a pair of these to play with until then and maybe leave in the network later...

Heat added!
Edited by: "Darpania" 10th May 2012
Belkin beware, every Belkin product I've come across has been faulty and firmware updates are about as common as flying pigs.

I'd rather pay more for something that actually works, oh wait I paid less for the TP-LINK adapters that have been flawless.

i have the devolo 200mbps wireless ones in living room dab radio close by no interference at all on the dab
If you're able, install ethernet. Cheaper, faster, and doesn't burn through electricity.
I wish the powers that be would get with the times and make ethernet cabling compulsory for all new builds. (along with fibre optic to the door) digital Britain is a bad joke, we've already been left behind, and are falling further back every day.
Darpania

As far as wifi 802.11ac isnt that far away (Netgear should be dropping … As far as wifi 802.11ac isnt that far away (Netgear should be dropping their first kit anytime in the next few months) massive improvement over 802.11g... if you have 802.11ac devices which we wont see popular for a while Im guessing.



wireless is dead to me, useless technology. they keep working on making it faster when they should work on making it work properly - how about getting it not to halve its speed under load, or actually go through a ceiling or a couple of walls?

for now, without running cat6 around skirtingboards or behind plasterboard, powerline is your best bet.

radio hams can cry me a river - CB, mobile phones, microwave ovens and taxi's cause more interference, try banning them! who uses DAB anyway?

TehJumpingJawa

If you're able, install ethernet. Cheaper, faster, and doesn't burn … If you're able, install ethernet. Cheaper, faster, and doesn't burn through electricity. I wish the powers that be would get with the times and make ethernet cabling compulsory for all new builds. (along with fibre optic to the door) digital Britain is a bad joke, we've already been left behind, and are falling further back every day.



couldn't agree more mate, bought 2 new builds within the last 2-3 years and they have cabling for satellite, freeview and phone in every wall socket, no fecking ethernet though. in france its mandatory to run cat6 as they also use it for phonelines. FTTP is a fair way off, FTTC just hit my street though, still too expensive at £30+/month for under 100mbit async.

Edited by: "sej7278" 10th May 2012
I have a pair of adaptors that come with the BT Vision box and I get a max thruput of about 4MB/S on usenet via PL and 9MB via ethernet. Rated at 85mbps I think. Just some real world speeds for anyone who's considering them in place of wireless.
ShaunnyBwoy

These devices are likely to get banned by OFCOM due to their interference … These devices are likely to get banned by OFCOM due to their interference with other digital devices reliant on radio communications, such as emergency equipment, DAB radios, WiFi devices and mobile phones. Best bet is to avoid buying this and all further future complications. Linky



Well I have a cheap DAB radio less than 2 feet away from my powerline adaptor and no effect whatsover.
pww1965

Well I have a cheap DAB radio less than 2 feet away from my powerline … Well I have a cheap DAB radio less than 2 feet away from my powerline adaptor and no effect whatsover.



Same here. Doesn't cause any problems for DAB in my house.
sej7278

wireless is dead to me, useless technology. they keep working on making … wireless is dead to me, useless technology. they keep working on making it faster when they should work on making it work properly - how about getting it not to halve its speed under load, or actually go through a ceiling or a couple of walls?for now, without running cat6 around skirtingboards or behind plasterboard, powerline is your best bet.



Definitely worth having a play with I agree.. though that said 802.11n is old tech now and 802.11ac/802.11 2012(great way to bundle up a pile of different technologies just incase only a couple survive) is very close on the horizon.

As far as wireless being dead to you, I can only diagree, while yes I did cat6 my last house, wireless still had a place as a component of the network though not necessarily the only transmission technology..

I mean i'd look kinda odd sat there with a Cat6 cable in one hand and my Galaxy note in the other.
Spence1115

My current pair goes upstairs and relatively fast, these wouldn't even … My current pair goes upstairs and relatively fast, these wouldn't even acknowledge each other.


Are you able to share with us which ones you have?
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