10TB WD-Gold SATA Hard Drive WD101KRYZ   £328.03 @ Amazon
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10TB WD-Gold SATA Hard Drive WD101KRYZ £328.03 @ Amazon

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Found 24th JanEdited by:"Adult"
WD WD101KRYZ 10TB Hard drive.

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A lot of prawn.....


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2 individual backups should be defacto for anything you wish to keep.

Why do people say that's a lot of data to lose, everyone has been saying that every time a larger capacity came out since the 80s.

Please for your own sakes keep a backup regardless of whatever the capacity is.
As sods law goes, a drive will fail at a crucial time, work due, reports due, assignments due etc. So please keep backups and that includes usb sticks/mem cards as well.
Edited by: "polarbaba" 24th Jan
I've never understood the whole lots of data to lose argument. 10MB is a lot of data to lose if it is really important data that can't be easily replaced. And if you can replace the data easily or it isn't very important then who cares how much of it there is?
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that's a lot of data to lose ooooooooooooo
So, you'd realistically need 2x to RAID them, in the hope you don't lose it. Which would then double the price, along with the HW to support it (server\NAS), getting more expensive by the minute.
shay05 m ago

So, you'd realistically need 2x to RAID them, in the hope you don't lose …So, you'd realistically need 2x to RAID them, in the hope you don't lose it. Which would then double the price, along with the HW to support it (server\NAS), getting more expensive by the minute.


interesting thought - so if you had this data spread over multiple disks the risk of failure would be higher- assuming all disks alike (although with a lower consequence impact), hence if your data was really so important would you not be using some form of RAID already (admittedly n+1 across multiple disks would be be more efficient)
Backing up - think 3-2-1 - not raid.
A lot of prawn.....


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I don't see how it would be a higher failure risk. With that sort of storage requirement, you'd either mirror the disks (yeah, you're screwed if both fail at the same time) or you'd have some sort of SAN setup. With a SAN setup though you're hardly likely to be talking 2x disks and a home user, therefore it goes into a totally different discussion.
2 individual backups should be defacto for anything you wish to keep.

Why do people say that's a lot of data to lose, everyone has been saying that every time a larger capacity came out since the 80s.

Please for your own sakes keep a backup regardless of whatever the capacity is.
As sods law goes, a drive will fail at a crucial time, work due, reports due, assignments due etc. So please keep backups and that includes usb sticks/mem cards as well.
Edited by: "polarbaba" 24th Jan
I've never understood the whole lots of data to lose argument. 10MB is a lot of data to lose if it is really important data that can't be easily replaced. And if you can replace the data easily or it isn't very important then who cares how much of it there is?
Ohhhh, shiny shiny shiny, nice shiny light, will it be my friend...
£32.80 per terabyte.

Not even close to the £25/TB hot deal threshold.

For hotness/coldness comparison, Amazon had 12TB Ironwolf drives for £299.99 (£25/TB) during Black Friday lightning deals.

Cold, IMO.
Edited by: "hukd14" 24th Jan
CoeK32 m ago

I've never understood the whole lots of data to lose argument. 10MB is a …I've never understood the whole lots of data to lose argument. 10MB is a lot of data to lose if it is really important data that can't be easily replaced. And if you can replace the data easily or it isn't very important then who cares how much of it there is?


I think the point is you can easily make hundred of backups for 10MB of data on hundreds of cheap 2GB pen-drive for example, where as 10TB of data backing them up is pain and impossible for some to do.
MarineRX1796 m ago

I think the point is you can easily make hundred of backups for 10MB of …I think the point is you can easily make hundred of backups for 10MB of data on hundreds of cheap 2GB pen-drive for example, where as 10TB of data backing them up is pain and impossible for some to do.



Anyone that has 10TB of important data should be backing up 10TB of data. If you have this much data then you are talking a lot of 2GB usb sticks, if you don't have this much data you either don't need the drive or are only going to lose the data that you have put on there anyway.

A 10TB drive that only has 2GB used can still be backed up on a USB stick.

Maybe i'm not explaining it well.
How do golds differ from reds?
hukd1413 m ago

£32.80 per terabyte.Not even close to the £25/TB hot deal threshold.For h …£32.80 per terabyte.Not even close to the £25/TB hot deal threshold.For hotness/coldness comparison, Amazon had 12TB Ironwolf drives for £299.99 (£25/TB) during Black Friday lightning deals.Cold, IMO.


Sigh.....
psmith19581 h, 30 m ago

that's a lot of data to lose ooooooooooooo


Only idiots lose data becasue of no backup strategy.
Buckyball2 m ago

Only idiots lose data becasue of no backup strategy.


how are you even online then
tHIS isnt aimed at the home user .. the reliability and workload is aimed fairly and squarely at the Daata-Center. Any home user who buys this needs to pull the wool from their Eyes.
Most ppl would be better off with much cheaper drives WD blue , Seagate, and more of them, fully backed up .
shay02 h, 5 m ago

So, you'd realistically need 2x to RAID them, in the hope you don't lose …So, you'd realistically need 2x to RAID them, in the hope you don't lose it. Which would then double the price, along with the HW to support it (server\NAS), getting more expensive by the minute.


RAID is not Backup.

RAID is for redundancy, meaning that you can carry on using the array if one of the drives fail. It does not account for rouge software or user stupidity. A RAID system will not help you if malware decides to wipe the file database of the drive or if you accidentally delete an entire folder containing 5TB of data.

A backup allows you to restore to a previous position such as restoring files saved a week ago before your system got infected with malware. RAID is not a substitute for a good backup system.
i like to keep to an low £/gb, but that tends to be for 2-4gb drives. I have quite a large film collection on a server and for me, running out of sata ports (tried pci extension cards - no good). So Im happy stumping up a little extra of 6TB drives, but Ive avoided anything larger simply because of the cost..... £330 is a lot to stump up. £180 for 6TB is a lot, but something I can afford. all the chat about 'too much storage' is total BS.
hukd141 h, 11 m ago

£32.80 per terabyte.Not even close to the £25/TB hot deal threshold.For h …£32.80 per terabyte.Not even close to the £25/TB hot deal threshold.For hotness/coldness comparison, Amazon had 12TB Ironwolf drives for £299.99 (£25/TB) during Black Friday lightning deals.Cold, IMO.


You're welcome to use price-per-TB as your subjective measure of value. Others may prioritise other measures, such as TB-per-device (e.g. When a minimum capacity is required, but the host only has a limited number of drive bays) or TB-per-Watt.
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Going_Digital2 h, 50 m ago

It does not account for rouge software


Isn't that what the Reds are for?
Edited by: "Adult" 24th Jan
hukd141 h, 33 m ago

£32.80 per terabyte.Not even close to the £25/TB hot deal threshold.For h …£32.80 per terabyte.Not even close to the £25/TB hot deal threshold.For hotness/coldness comparison, Amazon had 12TB Ironwolf drives for £299.99 (£25/TB) during Black Friday lightning deals.Cold, IMO.


Wish I'd seen that. My 2x8TB WD Red set up in a Synology NAS is almost full
The 8TB Golds are £255.91 if anyone was after something a bit smaller.
Tomb2 h, 42 m ago

A lot of prawn.....[Image] .


4K Prawn
Going_Digital1 h, 18 m ago

RAID is not Backup.RAID is for redundancy, meaning that you can carry on …RAID is not Backup.RAID is for redundancy, meaning that you can carry on using the array if one of the drives fail. It does not account for rouge software or user stupidity. A RAID system will not help you if malware decides to wipe the file database of the drive or if you accidentally delete an entire folder containing 5TB of data.A backup allows you to restore to a previous position such as restoring files saved a week ago before your system got infected with malware. RAID is not a substitute for a good backup system.


I was waiting for this one. Yawn...
cowbutt3 h, 42 m ago

You're welcome to use price-per-TB as your subjective measure of value. …You're welcome to use price-per-TB as your subjective measure of value. Others may prioritise other measures, such as TB-per-device (e.g. When a minimum capacity is required, but the host only has a limited number of drive bays) or TB-per-Watt.


I like to add TB per SATA port into these things but even that doesn't make up for the poor TB per £. £75 more expensive than a £25/TB drive at the same capacity would be, over two drives that's a low end server like a TS150 paid for. Of course space and power aren't free either, but you get the point and can do the maths for those too.
hukd145 h, 31 m ago

£32.80 per terabyte.Not even close to the £25/TB hot deal threshold.For h …£32.80 per terabyte.Not even close to the £25/TB hot deal threshold.For hotness/coldness comparison, Amazon had 12TB Ironwolf drives for £299.99 (£25/TB) during Black Friday lightning deals.Cold, IMO.


I agree this isn't a great deal, large capacity drives are usually not the best value for money but in this case you can get the Seagate 12TB for around the £330 mark for those wanting a high density drive.

Although it will never happen, it would make a pleasant change to have a high capacity hard drive deal that doesn't keep going on about 'that's a lot of data to lose' and the porn jokes which weren't funny the first time and have definitely not got any better several hundred times later.
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