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The obsession with Jordan Peterson and his personal life by people who disagree with his politics is just too funny. Can't play the ball so play the man!
Shard01/11/2019 20:30

Exactly. And if you read the book his daughter had a pretty hard time as …Exactly. And if you read the book his daughter had a pretty hard time as wellHe's a pretty divisive figure, personally I agree with him when he talks about "child men", but his comments about trans pronouns being equivalent to Nazi thought speech is a bit muchThe videos where he's on a panel are pretty good though, he's got a mind like a vice


regarding "trans pronouns" - and more generally the now 100+ gender pronouns that apparently have been invented by what some people term the radical left

my understanding is he objected to being *forced* by newly introduced Canadian laws to address someone by their preferred pronoun taken from this list of 100+ gender pronouns

He also said he had no issue using such pronouns as a matter of politeness but that he didn't consider it acceptable to be forced by law to do so

How exactly is that "a bit much" ?

His daughter put up a video on youtube recently explaining why hes so fucked up at the moment - just because hes personally fucked up doesnt invalidate his ideas

I havent read any of his books but Id much rather read one of his than say, James OBriens "How To Be Right" - the title itself tells you a lot about that particular individual
Edited by: "bayhabourbutcher" 1st Nov
Bazallworks01/11/2019 20:05

https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/jordan-peterson-rehab-klonopin-addiction/


Ah okay... prescribed anti-anxiety drug after his wife was diagnosed with cancer and became dependent. The other guy made it sound like he was a secret Crack addict or something.
Great book!
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Great book!
pintoouk01/11/2019 18:01

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Rule 9: Assume the person you are listening to might know something you don't.

After hanging around the HUDK site for a good few years, yeah... have to agree. Bullshit!
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Bazallworks01/11/2019 20:05

https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/jordan-peterson-rehab-klonopin-addiction/


Ah okay... prescribed anti-anxiety drug after his wife was diagnosed with cancer and became dependent. The other guy made it sound like he was a secret Crack addict or something.
qball10101/11/2019 20:18

Ah okay... prescribed anti-anxiety drug after his wife was diagnosed with …Ah okay... prescribed anti-anxiety drug after his wife was diagnosed with cancer and became dependent. The other guy made it sound like he was a secret Crack addict or something.


Still a drug addict. Should've read his notes from the 'How to solve addiction simply' lecture he gave lol
qball10101/11/2019 20:18

Ah okay... prescribed anti-anxiety drug after his wife was diagnosed with …Ah okay... prescribed anti-anxiety drug after his wife was diagnosed with cancer and became dependent. The other guy made it sound like he was a secret Crack addict or something.


Exactly. And if you read the book his daughter had a pretty hard time as well

He's a pretty divisive figure, personally I agree with him when he talks about "child men", but his comments about trans pronouns being equivalent to Nazi thought speech is a bit much

The videos where he's on a panel are pretty good though, he's got a mind like a vice
Great book by a great man.
sach701/11/2019 20:28

Still a drug addict. Should've read his notes from the 'How to solve …Still a drug addict. Should've read his notes from the 'How to solve addiction simply' lecture he gave lol


I just watched it, It's a interesting video, it's like a lot of his stuff, a clearly correct interpretation of a problem with the wrong solution.

If your an addict you're pretty unlikely to suddenly decide on a long term plan. I suspect he's right that that's how a lot of people get out of it, but it doesn't help everyone else
So you`re saying... all other books are bad?
The obsession with Jordan Peterson and his personal life by people who disagree with his politics is just too funny. Can't play the ball so play the man!
Shard01/11/2019 20:30

Exactly. And if you read the book his daughter had a pretty hard time as …Exactly. And if you read the book his daughter had a pretty hard time as wellHe's a pretty divisive figure, personally I agree with him when he talks about "child men", but his comments about trans pronouns being equivalent to Nazi thought speech is a bit muchThe videos where he's on a panel are pretty good though, he's got a mind like a vice


regarding "trans pronouns" - and more generally the now 100+ gender pronouns that apparently have been invented by what some people term the radical left

my understanding is he objected to being *forced* by newly introduced Canadian laws to address someone by their preferred pronoun taken from this list of 100+ gender pronouns

He also said he had no issue using such pronouns as a matter of politeness but that he didn't consider it acceptable to be forced by law to do so

How exactly is that "a bit much" ?

His daughter put up a video on youtube recently explaining why hes so fucked up at the moment - just because hes personally fucked up doesnt invalidate his ideas

I havent read any of his books but Id much rather read one of his than say, James OBriens "How To Be Right" - the title itself tells you a lot about that particular individual
Edited by: "bayhabourbutcher" 1st Nov
Silly, simplistic reactionary old fart or yet another right-wing grifter? Either way, spend the money on something less pointless.
bayhabourbutcher01/11/2019 20:56

regarding "trans pronouns" - and more generally the now 100+ gender …regarding "trans pronouns" - and more generally the now 100+ gender pronouns that apparently have been invented by what some people term the radical leftmy understanding is he objected to being *forced* by newly introduced Canadian laws to address someone by their preferred pronoun taken from this list of 100+ gender pronounsHe also said he had no issue using such pronouns as a matter of politeness but that he didn't consider it acceptable to be forced by law to do soHow exactly is that "a bit much" ?His daughter put up a video on youtube recently explaining why hes so fucked up at the moment - just because hes personally fucked up doesnt invalidate his ideasI havent read any of his books but Id much rather read one of his than say, James OBriens "How To Be Right" - the title itself tells you a lot about that particular individual


James o Brien > peterson
Outside01/11/2019 21:05

Silly, simplistic reactionary old fart or yet another right-wing grifter? …Silly, simplistic reactionary old fart or yet another right-wing grifter? Either way, spend the money on something less pointless.


Have you read the book?
Outside01/11/2019 21:05

Silly, simplistic reactionary old fart or yet another right-wing grifter? …Silly, simplistic reactionary old fart or yet another right-wing grifter? Either way, spend the money on something less pointless.


You are deranged, seek help.
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bayhabourbutcher01/11/2019 20:56

He also said he had no issue using such pronouns as a matter of politeness


I don't recall that from the book, or from any videos. Happy to be corrected if you can find a reference
Kernell01/11/2019 21:12

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Trans pronouns - The average person is unlikely to experience this in their life. If they do, no consequences
Nazi's thoughts police - Disobey and we kill you

Yep, seems legit
Shard01/11/2019 22:20

I don't recall that from the book, or from any videos. Happy to be …I don't recall that from the book, or from any videos. Happy to be corrected if you can find a reference


I think it might have been during one of his discussions with joe rogan but I not going to spend time trying to find it again

As i understand it he in essense considers the 100+ gender pronouns a load of nonsense invented by the radical left & the new Canadian laws enforcing their use via compelled speech as a form of tyranny of the state

Apparently according to the updated Canadian law you are now guilty of hate speech if you refuse to address a non binary person by their preferred gender pronoun

However I do seem to recall at one point he said that if he were talking one on one with someone who asked to be referred to by one of these pronouns then he would do so as a matter of courtesy despite his view on the matter

Personally I find the introduction of laws like this very worrying i.e. progressive liberalism morphing into totalitarianism
Edited by: "bayhabourbutcher" 1st Nov
Bazallworks01/11/2019 22:03

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HUKD definitely isn't the place to argue politics, so i'll keep my grievances with your apparent views to myself, but i will say that last meme is fire
bayhabourbutcher01/11/2019 23:00

I think it might have been during one of his discussions with joe rogan …I think it might have been during one of his discussions with joe rogan but I not going to spend time trying to find it againAs i understand it he in essense considers the 100+ gender pronouns a load of nonsense invented by the radical left & the new Canadian laws enforcing their use via compelled speech as a form of tyranny of the state Apparently according to the updated Canadian law you are now guilty of hate speech if you refuse to address a non binary person by their preferred gender pronounHowever I do seem to recall at one point he said that if he were talking one on one with someone who asked to be referred to by one of these pronouns then he would do so as a matter of courtesy despite his view on the matterPersonally I find the introduction of laws like this very worrying i.e. progressive liberalism morphing into totalitarianism


When the science backs up the notion of transgenderism and identity, purposefully going against it and denying it to people's faces does not strike me as a rational thought process.
ct8901/11/2019 21:09

James o Brien > peterson


Half a wet brick > Peterson
Bazallworks01/11/2019 23:48

When the science backs up the notion of transgenderism and identity, …When the science backs up the notion of transgenderism and identity, purposefully going against it and denying it to people's faces does not strike me as a rational thought process.


That entire paragraph did not even mention transgenderism. Please learn to read.

Besides, if transgenderism was completely normal, why do most people who want to change sex later decide not to? Why do most people who have undergone gender reassignment surgery regret it, and seek to return to their original bodies?
Bazallworks01/11/2019 23:48

When the science backs up the notion of transgenderism and identity, …When the science backs up the notion of transgenderism and identity, purposefully going against it and denying it to people's faces does not strike me as a rational thought process.


"When the science backs up the notion of transgenderism and identity." I've read this 5 times now and it still makes no sense. Can you explain what this means? When the science backs up a notion... what? What is the notion of transgenderism and what science are you referring to? Can you be specific?
Dejaque02/11/2019 00:26

"When the science backs up the notion of transgenderism and identity." …"When the science backs up the notion of transgenderism and identity." I've read this 5 times now and it still makes no sense. Can you explain what this means? When the science backs up a notion... what? What is the notion of transgenderism and what science are you referring to? Can you be specific?


They're basically saying that science backs up the notion that transgenderism exists. Which is kind of true - gender dysphoria is a recognised thing. However, that does not mean that the best way to approach gender dysphoria is to cut off someone's genitals.
Here's the full interview he had with Maajid Nawaz on LBC in 2018, if you have any interest in watching it.
The part about C-16 and the other stuff related to that starts at 23:20 and that section lasts for about 10 minutes.



Edited by: "mstrmind10" 2nd Nov
Flappy mouthpiece for the Dim right -wing.

The fact that he doesn't apply the same principles in his own life that he suggests to others shouldn't distract from the shallowness of of his confused Cultural Marxist analysis.
Dejaque02/11/2019 00:26

"When the science backs up the notion of transgenderism and identity." …"When the science backs up the notion of transgenderism and identity." I've read this 5 times now and it still makes no sense. Can you explain what this means? When the science backs up a notion... what? What is the notion of transgenderism and what science are you referring to? Can you be specific?


The science backs up the idea that it's legitimate and not people 'pretending'.

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sach702/11/2019 00:17

That entire paragraph did not even mention transgenderism. Please learn to …That entire paragraph did not even mention transgenderism. Please learn to read. Besides, if transgenderism was completely normal, why do most people who want to change sex later decide not to? Why do most people who have undergone gender reassignment surgery regret it, and seek to return to their original bodies?


Delegitimising transgender ppl is Petersons entire raison d'etre. Also, what a laughable claim.

bbc.co.uk/new…804
sach702/11/2019 01:10

They're basically saying that science backs up the notion that …They're basically saying that science backs up the notion that transgenderism exists. Which is kind of true - gender dysphoria is a recognised thing. However, that does not mean that the best way to approach gender dysphoria is to cut off someone's genitals.


What is then in your expert opinion?
mstrmind1002/11/2019 01:55

Here's the full interview he had with Maajid Nawaz on LBC in 2018, if you …Here's the full interview he had with Maajid Nawaz on LBC in 2018, if you have any interest in watching it.The part about C-16 and the other stuff related to that starts at 23:20 and that section lasts for about 10 minutes. [Video]


Thanks for that. If you want to criticise him it is worth understanding his position

Quick summary of the 10 minute section

Canada has a law that is interpreted based on a referenced website, clearly madness

You must use the pronoun of choice, by law, or be charged with a hate crime and you can be imprisoned. This was his opinion but was verified as true by the University lawyers.

He mentions that he doesn't understand non binary people (25:20)
29:20 If an employee utters hate speech (doesn't use the pronoun) -in his free time- the employer is responsible

32:00 He specifically says he won't use the trans pronouns, he will use she for someone who identified as he and vice-versa

To me it is clear that there's two different aspects here and you have to separate them. A law that is wrong and his own views
Edited by: "Shard" 2nd Nov
Bazallworks01/11/2019 23:48

When the science backs up the notion of transgenderism and identity, …When the science backs up the notion of transgenderism and identity, purposefully going against it and denying it to people's faces does not strike me as a rational thought process.


The science doesn't back up 100 different genders, it's an hysterical snowflake social media construct.
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