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12tb external drive for less than the 10tb... and much cheaper than 14tb per tb - Amazon.co.uk
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12tb external drive for less than the 10tb... and much cheaper than 14tb per tb - Amazon.co.uk

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Just beat me to this - heat added
Excellent price.
snap was just about to post! Keen to know whats inside!
Hot! It would be rude not to order some more at this price.
Great Price OP
Smr drives?
If you are thinking of taking out the HDD's, looks like WD may have tweaked the design to make it harder to mount them in your server.

friar_chris02/01/2020 01:02

Nope. White label helium filled. Pmr.


Thanks, not sure if helium a good or bad thing, searching stuff about them leaking over time

an I right in thinking there is no encryption on these ones, so that if PCB fails can then schuck it out and still access same data
Midnight.Tboy02/01/2020 01:10

Thanks, not sure if helium a good or bad thing, searching stuff about them …Thanks, not sure if helium a good or bad thing, searching stuff about them leaking over time an I right in thinking there is no encryption on these ones, so that if PCB fails can then schuck it out and still access same data


I've heard that too, but WD are on atleast their third incarnation of helium drives now, so I figure they must have sorted out most of the problems. If enough of the helium stays put for ten years, I'm happy.

I think helium is pretty much essential for drives to increase beyond what 6tb?! I absolutely hate SMR with the perpetual need to rewrite and the corresponding delay in writing which in effect gives the appearance of slow transfer speed.

I've put files on the drive via usb, removed the drive and there's been no encryption. As I understand it, it's software based and the default is, it isn't running. You have to run the software yourself to enable it.
Edited by: "friar_chris" 2nd Jan
Anyone used these shucked in a NAS system?
R0adRat02/01/2020 01:09

If you are thinking of taking out the HDD's, looks like WD may have …If you are thinking of taking out the HDD's, looks like WD may have tweaked the design to make it harder to mount them in your server.[Video]


I have two of these mounted in my server in standard drive bays without issue (and two more I've hacked in because I ran out of official mounting places).

The side mounting points (the ones that you are likely to use) are the same as any other drive. If you wanted to mount using base mounting points, then they might be different from other drives you have, but using the base mounting points on 3.5" disks is pretty rare.

If you're referring to the 3.3V preventing spin-up issue, then some servers (like mine) aren't affected, and if you are affected there are a few ways around it (non-conductive tape over the relevant pin being the main one).
terrestris02/01/2020 01:20

I have two of these mounted in my server in standard drive bays without …I have two of these mounted in my server in standard drive bays without issue (and two more I've hacked in because I ran out of official mounting places).The side mounting points (the ones that you are likely to use) are the same as any other drive. If you wanted to mount using base mounting points, then they might be different from other drives you have, but using the base mounting points on 3.5" disks is pretty rare.If you're referring to the 3.3V preventing spin-up issue, then some servers (like mine) aren't affected, and if you are affected there are a few ways around it (non-conductive tape over the relevant pin being the main one).


I knew about the 3.3v issue, but was just flagging the changes in hole placement for others in case it affected them. I've just checked and my Fractal R6 trays are bottom mounted so not sure if it's going to be an issue.
R0adRat02/01/2020 01:26

I knew about the 3.3v issue, but was just flagging the changes in hole …I knew about the 3.3v issue, but was just flagging the changes in hole placement for others in case it affected them. I've just checked and my Fractal R6 trays are bottom mounted so not sure if it's going to be an issue.



I can't easily check at the moment, but I think that when I compared them to one of my pre-existing drives one of the pairs of mounting points was in the same place, but the other wasn't - it might be that you'd be able to mount successfully with just one pair.
terrestris02/01/2020 01:37

I can't easily check at the moment, but I think that when I compared them …I can't easily check at the moment, but I think that when I compared them to one of my pre-existing drives one of the pairs of mounting points was in the same place, but the other wasn't - it might be that you'd be able to mount successfully with just one pair.


I'll keep my fingers crossed, hopefully there won't be too much vibration!
...Aaaaaaaand it’s gone!
R0adRat02/01/2020 01:09

If you are thinking of taking out the HDD's, looks like WD may have …If you are thinking of taking out the HDD's, looks like WD may have tweaked the design to make it harder to mount them in your server.[Video]


Thanks so much for posting this video - this is a hot deal but unfortunately I have a Fractal Design R5 case and as luck would have it the drives are secured using the holes on the bottom of the drive rather than the side so it doesn't look like this drive will suit my case - gutted as I have been waiting for ages for these to drop in price. Heat added as the price is unreal.
HOT! I'm slowly running out of space on my franken-microserver, so two of these will be a great start for a new NAS or upgraded microserver.
expired pretty quick!
expired already

£12.92/TB ... probably the lowest prices seen so far on WD Whites
kowalski02/01/2020 02:08

expired already£12.92/TB ... probably the lowest prices seen so far on WD …expired already£12.92/TB ... probably the lowest prices seen so far on WD Whites


it pops up every so often

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friar_chris02/01/2020 01:14

I've heard that too, but WD are on atleast their third incarnation of …I've heard that too, but WD are on atleast their third incarnation of helium drives now, so I figure they must have sorted out most of the problems. If enough of the helium stays put for ten years, I'm happy. I think helium is pretty much essential for drives to increase beyond what 6tb?! I absolutely hate SMR with the perpetual need to rewrite and the corresponding delay in writing which in effect gives the appearance of slow transfer speed.I've put files on the drive via usb, removed the drive and there's been no encryption. As I understand it, it's software based and the default is, it isn't running. You have to run the software yourself to enable it.


Comments on the 14tb thread are suggesting these are smrd now, based on his performance

hoping not true
Midnight.Tboy02/01/2020 11:15

Comments on the 14tb thread are suggesting these are smrd now, based on …Comments on the 14tb thread are suggesting these are smrd now, based on his performancehoping not true


Yeah I saw that (after ordering 2x 14TB)

It seems WD started using shingled drives a few years back to get 12 and 14TB enterprise drives. Anecdotally, there's a history going back to the launch of 8TB My books where fear they might be SMR was raised. At the time Seagate had widely introduced SMR. Whilst it seems fair that WD are now employing SMR, I suspect it is sparingly (if they have to and with enterprise) and would wager that like the 8TB and 10TB drives before them, after two years, the consumer drives will continue to be PMR.

My experience with 12TB Elements and My book drives so far tells me they behave just like the 10TB PMR units. I've ordered two 14TB units and will test them out. 🤞. They are going back if they perform badly.
Edited by: "friar_chris" 2nd Jan
Its letting you order them now. Managed to order one for £154.99 for delivery 17th Jan.
£308? Nah, I'll leave it, thanks
Does anyone have a screenshot of this drive at £154.99? Amazon are denying it was ever that price and refusing me a refund. Would be great if anyone could help me out.
italoarmstrong02/01/2020 14:13

Does anyone have a screenshot of this drive at £154.99? Amazon are denying …Does anyone have a screenshot of this drive at £154.99? Amazon are denying it was ever that price and refusing me a refund. Would be great if anyone could help me out.


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I don't have one of the product page.
Edited by: "rev6" 2nd Jan
rev602/01/2020 14:14

[Image] I don't have one of the product page.


Thanks mate. What a rigmarole. They now claim to not to price matching (against themselves) even though they've done it before. time to return and re-order once its back in stock.
italoarmstrong02/01/2020 14:45

Thanks mate. What a rigmarole. They now claim to not to price matching …Thanks mate. What a rigmarole. They now claim to not to price matching (against themselves) even though they've done it before. time to return and re-order once its back in stock.



They used to be a lot more accommodating... It was worth a try!
sergiup02/01/2020 01:58

HOT! I'm slowly running out of space on my franken-microserver, so two of …HOT! I'm slowly running out of space on my franken-microserver, so two of these will be a great start for a new NAS or upgraded microserver.


If you use a Gen 8 Microserver, and are prepared to do some surgery on it, you can fit one 3.5" drive above the drive bays (where the optical drive would go) by cutting a hole in the chassis (there's 1-2cm of empty space above the drive bays), and another 3.5" drive can be screwed onto the right side (opposite the power supply) if you drill a couple of screw holes (and cut off the latch on the door). On the power supply side you're stuck with 2.5" drives unfortunately.
Midnight.Tboy02/01/2020 11:15

Comments on the 14tb thread are suggesting these are smrd now, based on …Comments on the 14tb thread are suggesting these are smrd now, based on his performancehoping not true



*Comment (singular).
It's just one user robo989 on the 14TB thread with that info.
I think the 12TB and 14TB Elements will probably be PMR, but maybe robo989 is correct stating they are SMR.
I wouldn't take that one data point as gospel though.
It's back up but in stock for 16/17 January - I've ordered 1.
Edited by: "anle1991" 2nd Jan
anle199102/01/2020 17:40

It's back up but in stock for 16/17 January - I've ordered 1.


I had same but it's now being delivered on Sunday
terrestris02/01/2020 16:19

If you use a Gen 8 Microserver, and are prepared to do some surgery on it, …If you use a Gen 8 Microserver, and are prepared to do some surgery on it, you can fit one 3.5" drive above the drive bays (where the optical drive would go) by cutting a hole in the chassis (there's 1-2cm of empty space above the drive bays), and another 3.5" drive can be screwed onto the right side (opposite the power supply) if you drill a couple of screw holes (and cut off the latch on the door). On the power supply side you're stuck with 2.5" drives unfortunately.


Nope, it's a Gen7. I've actually got three of them, one N36L (motherboard removed, used as a plain drive enclosure) and two N54L: one running Xpenology with 5 drives internally (6 drives would've meant looping back the eSATA connection, which I decided not to do) and one currently spare. The N36L will be connected via mini-SAS to the Xpenology one, just to add more drives; but if I get a total of 4x 12TB drives then I don't even need the additional enclosure.
And... Dispatched. That was quick!
sergiup02/01/2020 19:07

Nope, it's a Gen7. I've actually got three of them, one N36L (motherboard …Nope, it's a Gen7. I've actually got three of them, one N36L (motherboard removed, used as a plain drive enclosure) and two N54L: one running Xpenology with 5 drives internally (6 drives would've meant looping back the eSATA connection, which I decided not to do) and one currently spare. The N36L will be connected via mini-SAS to the Xpenology one, just to add more drives; but if I get a total of 4x 12TB drives then I don't even need the additional enclosure.


I recently got a Gen7 to try and run Xpenology too. I also want to put in a dual port NIC to get better throughput.

Does it support drives larger than 8TB?

Was it easy to setup?
Getting delivered today... only just realised how long chkdsk is going to take
KetanS03/01/2020 02:25

I recently got a Gen7 to try and run Xpenology too. I also want to put in …I recently got a Gen7 to try and run Xpenology too. I also want to put in a dual port NIC to get better throughput. Does it support drives larger than 8TB?Was it easy to setup?


The installation is easy enough, just follow the forum instructions for the N54L:
xpenology.com/for…-4/

I had a quad port NIC in there briefly (was the only thing I had at the time), now replaced it with a single port NC110T in the 1x slot so that I can use the 4x slot for another card. All worked fine. Synology have a list of supported NICs, but from my limited experience anything Intel server like should be okay, maybe just stick to common HP Intel based NICs to be safe. I haven't found any issues with "just" 1Gbit, though most of the time it just streams things to one or max two media players.

According to the recent comments on this page, it should support the larger drives. I'll find out soon enough...
sergiup03/01/2020 10:04

The installation is easy enough, just follow the forum instructions for …The installation is easy enough, just follow the forum instructions for the N54L:https://xpenology.com/forum/topic/14214-hp-n54l-bare-metal-new-install-621-update-4/I had a quad port NIC in there briefly (was the only thing I had at the time), now replaced it with a single port NC110T in the 1x slot so that I can use the 4x slot for another card. All worked fine. Synology have a list of supported NICs, but from my limited experience anything Intel server like should be okay, maybe just stick to common HP Intel based NICs to be safe. I haven't found any issues with "just" 1Gbit, though most of the time it just streams things to one or max two media players. According to the recent comments on this page, it should support the larger drives. I'll find out soon enough...


Great info. Thanks.

I'm want to see if it will be fast enough to act as storage for some VM disks, assuming there are no issues with iSCSI.

I've got 8TB drives for now, but will be interested to see if your 12TB ones work.
DFA197702/01/2020 01:54

Thanks so much for posting this video - this is a hot deal but …Thanks so much for posting this video - this is a hot deal but unfortunately I have a Fractal Design R5 case and as luck would have it the drives are secured using the holes on the bottom of the drive rather than the side so it doesn't look like this drive will suit my case - gutted as I have been waiting for ages for these to drop in price. Heat added as the price is unreal.


No probs, I've ordered one despite the potential mounting issues. It's currently pre-clearing so when that's finished I'm going to try and mount in my Fractal r6. I think two of the holes will be in the wrong place but i have a solution in mind which should be fairly simple. I'll let you know how it goes.
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