17.3" Optimus VIII i7-7700, Nvidia GTX 1050Ti & SSD & 8GB RAM - £868 @ PC Specialist
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17.3" Optimus VIII i7-7700, Nvidia GTX 1050Ti & SSD & 8GB RAM - £868 @ PC Specialist

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Found 15th Feb
High-end laptop for less than £900,
CANT GET BETTER SPECS FOR LESS MONEY THAT I CAN SEE

Should be able to play most high end games on good settings

Just specced:-
Processor (CPU) - Intel® Core™ i7 Quad Core Processor 7700HQ (2.8GHz, 3.8GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM) - 8GB Kingston SODIMM DDR4 2133MHz (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card - NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 Ti - 4.0GB GDDR5
1st Hard Disk - 120GB KINGSTON UV400 2.5" SSD

Chosen without an Operating system, you can get a W10 license a lot cheaper on ebay - or add £92 if you want to buy it from them.

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Such a strange build.

CPU - Significantly better than any other component.
GPU - Underwhelming given CPU is much more capable than it.
SSD - Too small to be useful. 60GB Fallout 4 texture pack anyone? Not that a 1050 would play it well enough.
RAM - 8GB, ok for today but in 18 months? I'd want 16.

I'd have much preferred to see a decent i5 with a 250GB SSD, a 1060 and 16GB of RAM.

Not voting.
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This is a good price. The processor is good and the 1050 is a solid budget card and probably the best you'll get in a laptop sub-£1000. Heat.

Very good price for this laptop spec

Such a strange build.

CPU - Significantly better than any other component.
GPU - Underwhelming given CPU is much more capable than it.
SSD - Too small to be useful. 60GB Fallout 4 texture pack anyone? Not that a 1050 would play it well enough.
RAM - 8GB, ok for today but in 18 months? I'd want 16.

I'd have much preferred to see a decent i5 with a 250GB SSD, a 1060 and 16GB of RAM.

Not voting.

I'd drop the cpu down to an i5 in exchange for a bigger ssd, in order to make it a more balanced machine, but other than that it seems like a very decent spec for the money. If ram became an issue during the life of the machine, then you have a free bank to upgrade.

The_Hoff

Such a strange build.CPU - Significantly better than any other … Such a strange build.CPU - Significantly better than any other component.GPU - Underwhelming given CPU is much more capable than it.SSD - Too small to be useful. 60GB Fallout 4 texture pack anyone? Not that a 1050 would play it well enough.RAM - 8GB, ok for today but in 18 months? I'd want 16.I'd have much preferred to see a decent i5 with a 250GB SSD, a 1060 and 16GB of RAM.Not voting.


My 850m graphics card plays FallOut 4 decently at 1080p, so why should a 1050 struggle?

8gb RAM is perfectly adequate these days, and I see nothing that suggests 16gb should be the new standard in the next 18 months, but I agree about the SSD. Way too small. Should come with an HDD too or even instead.

Zeipher

My 850m graphics card plays FallOut 4 decently at 1080p, so why should a … My 850m graphics card plays FallOut 4 decently at 1080p, so why should a 1050 struggle?8gb RAM is perfectly adequate these days, and I see nothing that suggests 16gb should be the new standard in the next 18 months, but I agree about the SSD. Way too small. Should come with an HDD too or even instead.



Yeah it seems they will push 50ish FPS with the right level of compromise. I'm pretty out of touch with the lower end of the market graphically

RAM wise, I was speaking with reference to a nicer balance of build, not necessarily that its a requirement for gaming today. 16GB has been the sweet spot for some time.

Something like this I think is a better buy:
http://www.medion.com/gb/shop/gaming-laptops-medion-erazer-x7843-17-3-high-performance-gaming-laptop-130020268.html

More RAM
More storage
Better GPU
2 Year parts warranty
£150~ more, but £30 Quidco and perhaps some codes floating around. So could be nearer £100 more.

Edited by: "The_Hoff" 15th Feb

The_Hoff

Yeah it seems they will push 50ish FPS with the right level of … Yeah it seems they will push 50ish FPS with the right level of compromise. I'm pretty out of touch with the lower end of the market graphically :)RAM wise, I was speaking with reference to a nicer balance of build, not necessarily that its a requirement for gaming today. 16GB has been the sweet spot for some time.


Ahh, I always thought with graphics cards having decent speeds these days only 4gb ram was a good standard. This laptop seems to be torn between supporting gaming and high end image/video editing.

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The_Hoff

Such a strange build.CPU - Significantly better than any other … Such a strange build.CPU - Significantly better than any other component.GPU - Underwhelming given CPU is much more capable than it.SSD - Too small to be useful. 60GB Fallout 4 texture pack anyone? Not that a 1050 would play it well enough.RAM - 8GB, ok for today but in 18 months? I'd want 16.I'd have much preferred to see a decent i5 with a 250GB SSD, a 1060 and 16GB of RAM.Not voting.



The closest you can get would bring this lappy upto £909, thats with an i5, 16GB RAM and 250GB ssd.
I would imagine a 1060 would come in well above £1000 if it was available. But looking at laptops with that card in are coming in around £1150

What is the build quality like on these?

Quite tempting at £764 (i5 / no storage / no OS).
Could retire an SSD from my desktop or keep an eye out for a 250gb+ at a better price.

(I should have purchased that Medion from Argos last year...).

Edited by: "MBeeching" 15th Feb

118luke

I would imagine a 1060 would come in well above £1000 if it was … I would imagine a 1060 would come in well above £1000 if it was available. But looking at laptops with that card in are coming in around £1150



Laptops with 1060 start from £970 if looking at prices EU wide; 1050Ti is ~67% of the performance of 1060, and as the price-gap is obviously nowhere near that big, it seems that gamers would be best advised to go for the faster solution.

The new Lenovo Legion Y520 (15" with 1050Ti) is available for pre-order for the equivalent of £764 and is, according to the first few reviews, a beast of a machine.

CriticalObserver

The new Lenovo Legion Y520 (15" with 1050Ti) is available for pre-order … The new Lenovo Legion Y520 (15" with 1050Ti) is available for pre-order for the equivalent of £764 and is, according to the first few reviews, a beast of a machine.



Whereabouts? It's currently listed at £949 with a standard 1050.

8GB is more than enough for games. It's not shared like on consoles, although the OS obviously uses a lot more. Still, the graphics card comes with another 4GB of VRAM. 1050Ti seems to be better than my 960M, but you can get a laptop with 960M for around 200 pounds less. It's not a bad price, if the build quality is good. That's the main caveat of most laptops for me, they just break down and start chugging and overheating after a couple years of heavy usage.

explosiveblarg

What is the build quality like on these?



Pretty good but I would never use them again, the screens i got had massive clouding and was suppose to be a quality 1080p screen.. if it wasnt for the subpar screen used i woudl of been happy.. they considered it fine so i had to pay a returns fee.

£100GPU makes a £300 laptop into £900. Good business. I know the CPU in this one is expensive, but I could live with a weaker cheaper one if the price was indeed £400.

MBeeching

Whereabouts? It's currently listed at £949 with a standard 1050.



I would also like to know that, I would pre-order instantly. But I'm guessing they took the US price and converted it to £ which obviously is pointless.

stanlenin

£100GPU makes a £300 laptop into £900. Good business. I know the CPU in th … £100GPU makes a £300 laptop into £900. Good business. I know the CPU in this one is expensive, but I could live with a weaker cheaper one if the price was indeed £400.



if only it was that simple. The mobile version of gfx cards are not the same price as the desktop equivalent. In fact as a consumer its very difficult to actually buy mobile versions of gfx cards. A gaming laptop mobo that can take these gfx cards are also more expensive than the desktop version and when you factor in the extra cooling and heat dissipation these laptops require while keeping it laptop size and weight down. The production costs quickly rocket.

MBeeching

Whereabouts? It's currently listed at £949 with a standard 1050.



Think its based on US prices which never convert to the GBP equivalent. Y520 with 1050ti in the US is $899...

notebookcheck.net/Len…tml

explosiveblarg

What is the build quality like on these?


They are not too bad just watch the hinges as they can break away from the base and are slightly hard to replace.

Buy a Nintendo switch and a ps4 pro.
Sorted for gaming out and about and at home and saved hella cash

Kegga

Buy a Nintendo switch and a ps4 pro.Sorted for gaming out and about and … Buy a Nintendo switch and a ps4 pro.Sorted for gaming out and about and at home and saved hella cash



​this is a good option, and having had many laptops and mobile gaming devices, this is the combo I'm resorting to, with some other stuff. but a laptop has a lot more versatility
Edited by: "longback2" 15th Feb

Kegga

Buy a Nintendo switch and a ps4 pro.Sorted for gaming out and about and … Buy a Nintendo switch and a ps4 pro.Sorted for gaming out and about and at home and saved hella cash


http://i.imgur.com/8X7uPPd.png

I think the fact that some people require a decent laptop first and foremost, rather than just purely looking at gaming, is lost on some people and they tend to rate any given system with 95% bias on whether it's a good gaming machine.
Take the 3rd reply in this thread for example.

This above is an excellent laptop for working on. In my own requirements I have needed all the processing power I can get for some spreadsheets I work on.
Add to that, this will play any game you want. I won't get into all the Ultra and FPS arguments, but it will play any game well and at levels better than consoles.

This isn't a pure gaming laptop. But make no mistake, it's great for gaming.

8gb of Ram will be fine. Cheaply upgraded to 16gb in 12 months if required.

Is the SSD small? Yes. But you don't have to install your games onto it. Install them onto a larger, cheap secondary HDD (which I believe this chassis has the room for) and you'll get the same performance, just at the deficit of loading times.
That said, I personally would omit the SSD altogether and source my own larger one.

Specs alone. This is a good deal.
For those that don't hold gaming with as much of a priority as others - such as myself - this is a great deal.

The only questions are over such things as heat dissipation and build quality.
Edited by: "steevio_uk" 15th Feb

Guys, sorry for hijacking thread but I was about to buy the laptop below. There seems to be some really clued up people on here, could you give me your opinion on it please?

https://www.medion.com/gb/shop/multimedia-laptops-medion-akoya-p7641-entry-level-gaming-laptop-30020877a1.html?searchTerm=30020877

Not required for gaming, but will be using Autocad on it.

Edited by: "markkeenan" 15th Feb

The_Hoff

Such a strange build.CPU - Significantly better than any other … Such a strange build.CPU - Significantly better than any other component.GPU - Underwhelming given CPU is much more capable than it.SSD - Too small to be useful. 60GB Fallout 4 texture pack anyone? Not that a 1050 would play it well enough.RAM - 8GB, ok for today but in 18 months? I'd want 16.I'd have much preferred to see a decent i5 with a 250GB SSD, a 1060 and 16GB of RAM.Not voting.


You can use the dropdowns to downgrade to a quad core I5 and upgrade to 16GB RAM and 250GB SSD for £862 if you prefer a more balanced system.

markkeenan

Not required for gaming, but will be using Autocad on it.



What sort of things on AutoCAD? Wire workings mainly, of full 3D rendered projects?

If it's the former, then much design work is CPU based, though it never hurts getting a better GPU for the price.

This is only a U processor. You should be looking at getting better for your buck at this price point, same with the GPU.

Have a tweak around on the PC Specialist site

Edited by: "steevio_uk" 15th Feb

steevio_uk

What sort of things on AutoCAD? Wire workings mainly, of full 3D rendered … What sort of things on AutoCAD? Wire workings mainly, of full 3D rendered projects?If it's the former, then much design work is CPU based, though it never hurts getting a better GPU for the price.This is only a U processor. You should be looking at getting better for your buck at this price point, same with the GPU.Have a tweak around on the PC Specialist site



Mainly 2D drawings, possibly a bit of 3D stuff but not much, will also be using Navisworks for viewing a 3D Model.

It's not a bad laptop, but I'd be on the search for a HQ model CPU and a couple of steps above the 930m if it's not to price prohibitive.

Bruv, can I use this with Apple?

poison3k

Think its based on US prices which never convert to the GBP equivalent. … Think its based on US prices which never convert to the GBP equivalent. Y520 with 1050ti in the US is $899...http://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-Legion-gaming-laptops-announced-Legion-Y520-Y720.189794.0.html


It's the VAT, people always forget to add it on when looking at US prices.

DoctorDeals

Bruv, can I use this with Apple?


Yes of course you can.

is a 980m faster than a 1050ti ?

Original Poster

Ive decided to order it in the end.
Gone for
4GB Ram - Will order an extra 8GB stick from Novatech as it will be cheaper, then will have 12GB total
240GB SSD
i7-7700HQ Processor
Nvidia GTX 1050Ti Graphics

Taken it upto £864 + £45.17 Extra 8GB RAM from Novatech (So £909.17 total)
Pretty decent spec i reckon for the money!

"Dimensions (W x D x H)418.5mm x 288.7mm x 27.4mm
Weight 3.1kg"

That makes a garden paving slab seem portable.....

CriticalObserver

The new Lenovo Legion Y520 (15" with 1050Ti) i



Pretty well reviewed: http://laptopmedia.com/review/lenovo-legion-y520-gtx-1050-ti-review-the-y-series-are-finally-on-the-right-track/

Other that the very quiet operation / benign fan signature, I wasn't too impressed with the previous Y50.

Other 1050/Ti lappies here: laptopmedia.com/hig…es/

Edited by: "Picard123" 15th Feb

118luke

Ive decided to order it in the end.Gone for 4GB Ram - Will order an extra … Ive decided to order it in the end.Gone for 4GB Ram - Will order an extra 8GB stick from Novatech as it will be cheaper, then will have 12GB total240GB SSDi7-7700HQ ProcessorNvidia GTX 1050Ti GraphicsTaken it upto £864 + £45.17 Extra 8GB RAM from Novatech (So £909.17 total)Pretty decent spec i reckon for the money!



microsoftstore.com/sto…200

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Picard123

"Dimensions (W x D x H)418.5mm x 288.7mm x 27.4mmWeight 3.1kg"That makes … "Dimensions (W x D x H)418.5mm x 288.7mm x 27.4mmWeight 3.1kg"That makes a garden paving slab seem portable.....



17" laptops are generally heavier and obviously larger.
My Dell T7720 also weighs 3.28Kg
Also have a Toshiba P200-1K9 which also weighs 3.27Kg.

118luke

17" laptops are generally heavier and obviously larger. My Dell T7720 … 17" laptops are generally heavier and obviously larger. My Dell T7720 also weighs 3.28KgAlso have a Toshiba P200-1K9 which also weighs 3.27Kg.



You must be collected paving slabs because those are serious brick like laptops you have there! oO

Some laptop manufacturers don't seem to realise that it's 2017, not 1985!!
Edited by: "Picard123" 15th Feb

Original Poster

Picard123

You must be collected paving slabs because those are serious brick like … You must be collected paving slabs because those are serious brick like laptops you have there! oOSome laptop manufacturers don't seem to realise that it's 2017, not 1985!!



Taken my Toshiba laptop completely apart in the past. The heaviest part by far was the screen itself.
Even the outer casing was very heavy!

mikecobb

is a 980m faster than a 1050ti ?



Yes, significantly so.

980m is 970 power which is much more adept for gaming (talking 20-25%).

Personally I think the Medion I posted with the 980m is the best of the laptops mentioned, taking quidco, newsletter discount code and anything else you can find in to account.

MSI look great too.
Edited by: "The_Hoff" 15th Feb
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