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2 Metre HDMI Cable - £3.75 delivered @ CCLOnline !
2 Metre HDMI Cable - £3.75 delivered @ CCLOnline !

2 Metre HDMI Cable - £3.75 delivered @ CCLOnline !

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HDMI 19 Pin Male to Male, 2mtr
Constructed with UL20276 cable, for use with HDMI Compatible Devices
Compliant with HDMI v1.1 Specification

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Come on edi, this was talked about in another thread. Why not just bump gary's deal?

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leefal;2246549

Come on edi, this was talked about in another thread. Why not just bump … Come on edi, this was talked about in another thread. Why not just bump gary's deal?



Where ?

Edit: Sorry, that thread is 9 months old. Worth a repost I guess ..

Fairy nuff.

Thanks, ordered one

Not a very impressive retailer! id avoid!

im all for cheap HDMI cables but these are 1.1 compliant... the newer amp's n telly's are 1.3

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alchemistkevin;2247045

im all for cheap HDMI cables but these are 1.1 compliant... the newer … im all for cheap HDMI cables but these are 1.1 compliant... the newer amp's n telly's are 1.3


Thanks for the info alchemistkevin

alchemistkevin;2247045

im all for cheap HDMI cables but these are 1.1 compliant... the newer … im all for cheap HDMI cables but these are 1.1 compliant... the newer amp's n telly's are 1.3


not all plasma and lcds are 1.3 , neither of mine are and one is 3 years old he other just over a year old.
these will still work perfectly ...........

HOWEVER , not voted hot because I saw them in Home Bargains yesterday at just £1.99 so I guess the price is nowt special !!

Original Poster

rooney10;2247740

.....I saw them in Home Bargains yesterday at just £1.99 so I guess the … .....I saw them in Home Bargains yesterday at just £1.99 so I guess the price is nowt special !!



Nearest Hbargain store is 54 miles away for me.. handy for those who live nearby. Also, in line with previous HB posts, guess that is 1m cable

always had very good service from CCL.

Very reputable.

yeah I can vouch for CCL too - good guys

alchemistkevin;2247045

im all for cheap HDMI cables but these are 1.1 compliant... the newer … im all for cheap HDMI cables but these are 1.1 compliant... the newer amp's n telly's are 1.3



There is no such thing as "1.3 spec" cable - a HDMI cable is a HDMI cable it transfers a digital signal (i.e. 1's and 0's).

RiKx;2247020

Not a very impressive retailer! id avoid!



Hi.

Any reason why do you say this? I ordered 2 - 1TB HDs from them a week or so ago when the deal was on and they sent them fine and dandy.

edi;2247747

Nearest Hbargain store is 54 miles away for me.. handy for those who live … Nearest Hbargain store is 54 miles away for me.. handy for those who live nearby. Also, in line with previous HB posts, guess that is 1m cable



I can see an opprotunity here , lol ..... anyone want one , they've loads on the shelves at my local ??

... paypal accepted

seems a great price for a HDMI cable, free deliivery, all good! just ordered.

i know im being stupid here BUT.......................will the male to male connection for this cable work with PS3?

hotintheuk;2247936

i know im being stupid here BUT.......................will the male to … i know im being stupid here BUT.......................will the male to male connection for this cable work with PS3?



Yes, it will work with your PS3.

Good deal.

cut_la_roc;2247867

There is no such thing as "1.3 spec" cable - a HDMI cable is a HDMI cable … There is no such thing as "1.3 spec" cable - a HDMI cable is a HDMI cable it transfers a digital signal (i.e. 1's and 0's).




ok if you want to get picky ....... the latest standard cable for hdmi IS version 1.3 :whistling:



as with all updates ... it is backwards compatible

and just to get trully anarack :thumbsup:

ive edited a few thousand words of the original post lol

What Do These HDMI Spec Versions (1.2, 1.3, 1.3a, etc) Mean?
Many people are worried, when buying HDMI cable, about the spec version of the cable in question. Is it the latest spec version? Will it support all the features of the devices it's hooked to? Most of the fears and doubts associated with this question are unfounded, but there are some interesting issues with regard to HDMI spec version, and we'll sort those out here.

What Are The Spec Versions?
At this writing (October 2007) there have been five versions of the principal HDMI spec document. Additionally, however, some references to specs are not to the principal HDMI spec document, but to the "Compliance Testing Specification" document, and there have been five versions of that document, as well. The versions of the two, to date, are:

HDMI Specifications:
HDMI Specification 1.1
HDMI Specification 1.2
HDMI Specification 1.2a
HDMI Specification 1.3
HDMI Specification 1.3a
HDMI Compliance Testing Specifications:
Compliance Test Specification 1.1
Compliance Test Specification 1.2a
Compliance Test Specification 1.3a
Compliance Test Specification 1.3b
Compliance Test Specification 1.3b1

There is some room for confusion here. We are sometimes asked whether our cable is 1.3a or 1.3b compliant. As you can see, the current main spec version is 1.3a, and there is no 1.3b. But the Compliance Test Spec does have a 1.3b version, which for purposes of cable is the same as the 1.3a version. Our Belden HDMI cables have been tested under main spec version 1.3a, CTS version 1.3b (and, in the case of our Series-1 Category 1 approval, CTS version 1.3b1).

What this means is that, in terms of supporting features and protocols (e.g., HDCP), all HDMI cables have been designed to the same basic standard, whether they were designed under 1.1 or 1.3a or anything in between, and whether they were tested under CTS 1.1, 1.3b1, or anything in between. A 1.1 certified cable may not be officially (or actually) 1.3 "compliant" in the sense of having passed testing under the 1.3 standards, but it will always be 1.3 compatible, in the sense that it is built to handle the same job, and has all the necessary parts, for 1.3.

HDCP: a Cable Non-Issue:
You'll also see, sometimes, references to gear being "HDCP compliant," meaning that it supports copy-protection features. This can be meaningful where source, display and repeater devices are concerned, but it has nothing whatsoever to do with cables. All HDMI cables are HDCP compliant, because the signals which constitute HDCP run on the same conductors that carry the other parts of the HDMI signal. A cable incapable of carrying HDCP would be incapable of carrying any signal at all.

So, What Has Changed?
Plenty of things have indeed changed from one version to another of the spec documents, but only a handful of them have to do with cables; and of those which have to do with cables, quite a few of the changes are minor, insignificant things--nothing affecting performance in any substantial way. But there are some changes to the requirements expected of cables, and to the way that compliance with those requirements is tested, and these can be meaningful. These changes happened at the switch from main spec version 1.2a and 1.3, so there really are, for practical purposes, only two sorts of HDMI spec compliance for cables: 1.2a and before, and 1.3 and after.

"Specified Bandwidth"
In spec versions 1.1 to 1.2a, a manufacturer submitting a cable for testing was entitled to declare a stated bandwidth or "maximum frequency" for the cable. This stated maximum frequency would be given by the manufacturer in MHz, representing the clock speed, and the actual bitrate it represents would be ten times that--so, for example, 74.25 MHz, which represents 720p or 1080i, would equate to 742.5Mbps. This had a substantial impact upon the cable's ability to pass compliance testing, as we'll explain.


Differences in bitrate make a tremendous difference to eye-pattern results. Consequently, a cable could be tested at 480i or 480p, and could be certified at a much longer length than would have passed spec at 720p or 1080i because the bitrate is just over a third of the 720p/1080i bitrate. But a vendor did not necessarily need to share with the consumer the information concerning the bandwidth under which testing was passed, and consequently, one could not know what a certification meant. What length was certified as HDMI spec compliant, and at what bandwidth?

Under spec version 1.3 and later, this ambiguity is much reduced. A manufacturer can still submit any length of cable he wants, and he can still specify the bandwidth, but he has only two choices in bandwidth, which are "Category 1" and "Category 2." Under Category 1, the cable must either pass the eye-pattern test at 74.25MHz (742.5Mbps) or the parametric tests; under Category 2, the cable must pass eye-pattern tests at 165MHz and 340MHz (the latter test being aided somewhat by application of some software equalization to the output signal) or pass a stricter set of parametric tests. If you know the length of the cable and the testing Category, you have a pretty good idea what the result means.

Eye Pattern Test Strictness
The other substantial change which came about in the 1.2 to 1.3 changeover had to do with the conditions under which the eye-pattern testing is run. This change is, oddly, not reflected anywhere in the main spec document, and consequently, seems to be known almost to no one except those who do the testing. Instead, the change is buried deep in the details of the description of the Compliance Test Specification procedure for running eye-pattern tests.

As we've mentioned above, an eye-pattern test begins with a test signal being fed into a cable, and the result is read with a high-frequency oscilloscope which samples the waveform as it comes out of the other end of the cable. Needless to say, the quality and amplitude of the signal coming out of the cable is dependent on the quality and amplitude of the signal that goes into the cable. Under CTS 1.2a and before, the "swing" voltage of the test signal was 500 millivolts--that is, a "1" was signalled by a voltage of +500mv, and a "0" was signalled by a voltage of -500mv. Under CTS 1.3a and after, the swing voltage is 400mv. In other words, the signal is about 20% (about 1 dB) weaker when it goes into the cable, and it will come out about 20% weaker. But while the signal going into the cable "shrank" by 20%, the required output signal spec did not change at all. A cable that marginally passed the eye-pattern test under 1.2 will fail under 1.3.

Is That Really It?
Yes, that's it. There have been some other minor edits and revisions, but those don't really go to the substance of the spec, and don't affect compliance testing. As we've indicated above, there is no reason to worry about your HDMI cable failing to support a new feature because it was designed under a prior spec version; the only thing that is a potential area of concern is that as the bandwidth being pushed through HDMI cables increases, the likelihood of failure increases as well, and a cable which was perfectly adequate to carry 480i under 1.1 may not work properly when fed 1080p deep-color video.

basically if you want hd audio you need 1.3 but you need a recieverthat plays it to

cut_la_roc;2247867

There is no such thing as "1.3 spec" cable - a HDMI cable is a HDMI cable … There is no such thing as "1.3 spec" cable - a HDMI cable is a HDMI cable it transfers a digital signal (i.e. 1's and 0's).


suggest you read up before trashing anyone's posts

hdmi.org/pre…spx

one link for you... if you can't be bothered to google, if you still have any doubts suggest you google this up

rooney10;2247740

not all plasma and lcds are 1.3 , neither of mine are and one is 3 years … not all plasma and lcds are 1.3 , neither of mine are and one is 3 years old he other just over a year old. these will still work perfectly ...........HOWEVER , not voted hot because I saw them in Home Bargains yesterday at just £1.99 so I guess the price is nowt special !!


I understand that and I just pointed out to those who might be quick on the buy button and then realizing they can't get HD sound through their cables.

alchemistkevin;2247045

im all for cheap HDMI cables but these are 1.1 compliant... the newer … im all for cheap HDMI cables but these are 1.1 compliant... the newer amp's n telly's are 1.3



I agree, voted cold because this is like going backwards. Next thing you'll be posting in the misc. section why is my picture ****.

cut_la_roc;2247867

There is no such thing as "1.3 spec" cable - a HDMI cable is a HDMI cable … There is no such thing as "1.3 spec" cable - a HDMI cable is a HDMI cable it transfers a digital signal (i.e. 1's and 0's).



Wrong.
read this. Going back to 1.1 is like going back to Windows 3.1, you wouldn't do it.
To get the best reproduction from even a cheap upscaler you should use 1.3 compliant.


Higher speed: Although all previous versions of HDMI have had more than enough bandwidth to support all current HDTV formats, including full, uncompressed 1080p signals, HDMI 1.3 increases its single-link bandwidth to 340 MHz (10.2 Gbps) to support the demands of future HD display devices, such as higher resolutions, Deep Color and high frame rates. In addition, built into the HDMI 1.3 specification is the technical foundation that will let future versions of HDMI reach significantly higher speeds.
Deep Color: HDMI 1.3 supports 10-bit, 12-bit and 16-bit (RGB or YCbCr) color depths, up from the 8-bit depths in previous versions of the HDMI specification, for stunning rendering of over one billion colors in unprecedented detail.
Broader color space: HDMI 1.3 adds support for “x.v.Color™” (which is the consumer name describing the IEC 61966-2-4 xvYCC color standard), which removes current color space limitations and enables the display of any color viewable by the human eye.
New mini connector: With small portable devices such as HD camcorders and still cameras demanding seamless connectivity to HDTVs, HDMI 1.3 offers a new, smaller form factor connector option.
Lip Sync: Because consumer electronics devices are using increasingly complex digital signal processing to enhance the clarity and detail of the content, synchronization of video and audio in user devices has become a greater challenge and could potentially require complex end-user adjustments. HDMI 1.3 incorporates automatic audio synching capabilities that allows devices to perform this synchronization automatically with total accuracy.
New HD lossless audio formats: In addition to HDMI’s current ability to support high-bandwidth uncompressed digital audio and all currently-available compressed formats (such as Dolby® Digital and DTS®), HDMI 1.3 adds additional support for new lossless compressed digital audio formats Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio™.

alchemistkevin;2248166

suggest you read up before trashing anyone's posts suggest you read up before trashing anyone's posts http://www.hdmi.org/press/pr/pr_20060622.aspxone link for you... if you can't be bothered to google, if you still have any doubts suggest you google this up



You clearly do not understand the science - there is a big difference between the HDMI 1.3 standard and a device's ability to output/decode it (e.g. Blu-player, AV amp) and the cable used to transfer that data.

As long as you are not running the cable a long distance this cheap cable will work 100% as well as more expensive cables - if you don't believe me buy one of each and compare. :-D

It will be Compliant with HDMI v1.1 Specification because of its longer length.

Most TVs until very recent only used v1.1. (v1.2 simply added SACD capability to the official spec testing requirement)

I think that the wiring is identical on all these.

ALMOST ALL EQUIPMENT BEFORE 2007 IS HDMI V1.1 or less.

cut_la_roc;2248580

You clearly do not understand the science - there is a big difference … You clearly do not understand the science - there is a big difference between the HDMI 1.3 standard and a device's ability to output/decode it (e.g. Blu-player, AV amp) and the cable used to transfer that data.As long as you are not running the cable a long distance this cheap cable will work 100% as well as more expensive cables - if you don't believe me buy one of each and compare. :-D


LOL, don't teach me science mate

Read up, If you can't be bothered to read outside HUKD, read the posts above and enlighten yourself...


I am NOT comparing cheap and expensive cables, I KNOW how HDMI works!

You clearly do NOT KNOW that various specifications exist for HDMI.


know what - I'm gonna stop responding to your posts now... enough 'learning' for me for one day.

This argument is following the old USB one about cables. You do not see arguments about a usb1 cable being of no use with usb2 any more, nor are those specs mentioned on the cables now.

A piece of wire is a piece of wire. Problems only occur when a cable is too long for the frequency of the signal and individual wires are not adequately screened from each other,

A cable is usually named as to the connector type. The number after the cable type, (e.g. HDMI or USB), is the signal specification, and nothing to do with a the wires ability to transfer the signal from one point to another. (Though it may sometime indicate a different/ smaller connector, but in the past that suffix has usually been alphabetical).

Basically a cable's usefulness depends on the having correct type/size of connector on the appliances to be joined, the number of contacts therein ( fully populated or no) and on the number of contacts joined up by the individual wires inside the cable.

The hype and "religion" is what is added by the sales team.

Ordered and voted hot, thanks.

I cancelled my order and bought this instead, postage is more but if your buying a few items from ebuyer it may be worth it:

ebuyer.com/pro…508

Gets good reviews and states it's 1.3 compatable

alchemistkevin;2248636

LOL, don't teach me science mate :)Read up, If you can't be bothered to … LOL, don't teach me science mate :)Read up, If you can't be bothered to read outside HUKD, read the posts above and enlighten yourself... I am NOT comparing cheap and expensive cables, I KNOW how HDMI works!You clearly do NOT KNOW that various specifications exist for HDMI.know what - I'm gonna stop responding to your posts now... enough 'learning' for me for one day.



Well let's hope you read this one last post :thumbsup:

this informative post from someone who does understand the science...

]http//bo…972

to quote a relevant section if you can't be bothered to read it all:

"I've also seen various posts in regards to things like "Make sure you get a v1.3 cable"... The various HDMI versions determine the capabilities of the DEVICES on either end of that cable (most of the HDMI versions (other then 1.0 to 1.1) have to do with AUDIO and how many channels / type of audio are carried...) Because of this, the cable itself is NO DIFFERENT... It's just marketing that some companies charge more for a "v1.3" cable then a "v1.1" cable, etc... The cables themselves will work now and WELL into the future for any other HDMI versions that come along the way...."

Good day to you sir - and there is no need for the shouty capitals and aggressiveness ;-)

scattycat;2248654

This argument is following the old USB one about cables. You do not see … This argument is following the old USB one about cables. You do not see arguments about a usb1 cable being of no use with usb2 any more, nor are those specs mentioned on the cables now.A piece of wire is a piece of wire. Problems only occur when a cable is too long for the frequency of the signal and individual wires are not adequately screened from each other,A cable is usually named as to the connector type. The number after the cable type, (e.g. HDMI or USB), is the signal specification, and nothing to do with a the wires ability to transfer the signal from one point to another. (Though it may sometime indicate a different/ smaller connector, but in the past that suffix has usually been alphabetical). Basically a cable's usefulness depends on the having correct type/size of connector on the appliances to be joined, the number of contacts therein ( fully populated or no) and on the number of contacts joined up by the individual wires inside the cable.The hype and "religion" is what is added by the sales team.



A voice of logic! Good analogy with USB cables and the USB specifications

leefal;2246549

Come on edi, this was talked about in another thread. Why not just bump … Come on edi, this was talked about in another thread. Why not just bump gary's deal?



Thanks! :thumbsup:

edi;2246556

Where ?Edit: Sorry, that thread is 9 months old. Worth a repost I guess … Where ?Edit: Sorry, that thread is 9 months old. Worth a repost I guess ..



9 Months old but i updated it yesterday with the correct info... and have updated every month for the last nine months... repost is fine but nice to be given credit.

edit: Origonal post here... hotukdeals.com/ite…li/

rooney10;2247740

HOWEVER , not voted hot because I saw them in Home Bargains yesterday at … HOWEVER , not voted hot because I saw them in Home Bargains yesterday at just £1.99 so I guess the price is nowt special !!



Not very handy for me then as the nearest one is 85 miles away!!!!

So this is Hot

this is possibly the nerdiest thread I've ever read on HUKD

Sounds good to me

On gadget show they showed that there was no real difference between a cheap and expensive cable.......

Ebuyer have had them cheaper for a long long time.

It varies a bit, but currently £3.64 inc free delivery -

ebuyer.com/pro…508

EDIT: Bah, someone beat me to it above.

But yeah, this is cold for me.

KDH001;2248323

I agree, voted cold because this is like going backwards. Next thing … I agree, voted cold because this is like going backwards. Next thing you'll be posting in the misc. section why is my picture ****.




yeah thats right, its a cold deal at just over three quid because the technology isnt up to the minute......

it is a hot deal, no matter what is said by mr expert here.

ps. if only it was 3m, id have bought it

Dear Sir,

So you accept various different specifications exist for HDMI?

If yes, read on...


example: If you have a HDMI 1.3 compliant amp, Blu-Ray player and television and you want your amp to decode the lossless Audio codecs DTS-MA, etc your playe rwill need to bitstream these to the amp. To do this you NEED a HDMI 1.3 capable cable.I am not saying 'tested compliant'.

There is NO WAY that a 1.1 cable can carry Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio. This is a spefication by the HDMI consortium and not a sales ploy as you put it by the sales companies.


I am not saying you need expensive cables, there are cheap cables that are HDMI 1.3 compliant. All that I am saying is if your eqipment is 1.3 capable and you want to listen to the lossless audio codecs, you need 1.3 capable cables (compliancy is a test, capability is a fact).

Do you disagree with my statement above?


And to every other smartass that's talking expensive and cheap HDMI cables, NO ONE on this thread had said you need to buy expensive cables to get the best out of your system, read up and come back and tell me a 1.1 capable cable can carry Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio we'll continue the discussion.


What I am saying is to bitstream Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio codecs to your amp you need HDMI 1.3 capable cables.
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