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2 x Car Key Signal Blocking Pouch by Cloakmate £5.04 (+£4.49 Non Prime) Sold by Jayo Retail Ltd and Fulfilled by Amazon
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2 x Car Key Signal Blocking Pouch by Cloakmate £5.04 (+£4.49 Non Prime) Sold by Jayo Retail Ltd and Fulfilled by Amazon

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Posted 16th Sep

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Put it in a mint tin
Had these for 7month and both of them stopped working. Couldn’t get a refund or replacement. I recommend a wide birth.
How can this work? Your key only transmits when you press the button. And it needs it to be outside the pouch to do that!! So the point of the pouch is what exactly? Sounds like some gullibility thing going on here ?
DevilD16/09/2019 20:40

Put it in a mint tin



or your microwave
these come supplied with all new keyless fords, i think they've learnt their lesson
chris7316/09/2019 20:54

Had these for 7month and both of them stopped working. Couldn’t get a r …Had these for 7month and both of them stopped working. Couldn’t get a refund or replacement. I recommend a wide birth.


I have a different brand but same item.... work for a while then stop.
Had them replaced but the same thing happens.
Definitely a great item when they work.
Much cheaper to replace than a car.
Sphere16/09/2019 21:17

How can this work? Your key only transmits when you press the button. …How can this work? Your key only transmits when you press the button. And it needs it to be outside the pouch to do that!! So the point of the pouch is what exactly? Sounds like some gullibility thing going on here ?



It works differently with keyless cars.
Sphere16/09/2019 21:17

How can this work? Your key only transmits when you press the button. …How can this work? Your key only transmits when you press the button. And it needs it to be outside the pouch to do that!! So the point of the pouch is what exactly? Sounds like some gullibility thing going on here ?


It's for the keys that unlock your car just by being close to it. This prevents someone using a "range extender" to bridge the distance between your car and your hallway.

Although cheaper to DIY a solution or even free if you are prepared to habitually store your keys in your microwave.
Edited by: "nanuek" 16th Sep
Sphere16/09/2019 21:17

How can this work? Your key only transmits when you press the button. …How can this work? Your key only transmits when you press the button. And it needs it to be outside the pouch to do that!! So the point of the pouch is what exactly? Sounds like some gullibility thing going on here ?


Protection against the relay theft technique utilising keyless entry technology.

Basically stops thieves from signal boosting the keyless entry range of your fob from behind locked doors in the dead of night using faraday cage technology.
chris7316/09/2019 20:54

Had these for 7month and both of them stopped working. Couldn’t get a r …Had these for 7month and both of them stopped working. Couldn’t get a refund or replacement. I recommend a wide birth.


How does this "stop working"? Did some successfully unlock your car remotely... twice?
staceybaby16/09/2019 21:19

I have a different brand but same item.... work for a while then stop. Had …I have a different brand but same item.... work for a while then stop. Had them replaced but the same thing happens. Definitely a great item when they work. Much cheaper to replace than a car.


How did you know it was working in order to know that it stopped working?
Sphere16/09/2019 21:17

How can this work? Your key only transmits when you press the button. …How can this work? Your key only transmits when you press the button. And it needs it to be outside the pouch to do that!! So the point of the pouch is what exactly? Sounds like some gullibility thing going on here ?


Criminals use a device which amplifies the signal and using computer software they can unlock the car from the press of a computer key.

Thus placing it within this bag, blocks the signal nor does it allow the key to be amplified.
nanuek16/09/2019 21:27

How did you know it was working in order to know that it stopped working?


When the key is in the pouch the car tells you it cannot detect the key.
Then after a while when the key is still in the pouch I can start my car.
I have a pair of these and sleep well at night but the problem remains when you’re out with the car. Thieves simply need to be close when you’re using it. unless you take the pouch with you at all times the problem is solved only when car is parked at home.
Edited by: "wh1zz" 16th Sep
staceybaby16/09/2019 21:48

When the key is in the pouch the car tells you it cannot detect the key. …When the key is in the pouch the car tells you it cannot detect the key. Then after a while when the key is still in the pouch I can start my car.


Ah, I understand! Thank you
wh1zz16/09/2019 21:48

I have a pair of these and sleep well at night but the problem remains …I have a pair of these and sleep well at night but the problem remains when you’re out with the car. Thieves simply need to be close when you’re using it. unless you take the pouch with you at all times the problem is solved only when car is parked at home.


Keyless systems of that type are just badly designed and implemented.
I had a RFID protective wallet from Amazon...I tapped my card right through the wallet at a pay point. Just pointing out as a word of caution.
Tejib16/09/2019 21:32

Criminals use a device which amplifies the signal and using computer …Criminals use a device which amplifies the signal and using computer software they can unlock the car from the press of a computer key.

No computer/software is needed for a relay system that this pouch protects from
wh1zz16/09/2019 21:48

I have a pair of these and sleep well at night but the problem remains …I have a pair of these and sleep well at night but the problem remains when you’re out with the car. Thieves simply need to be close when you’re using it. unless you take the pouch with you at all times the problem is solved only when car is parked at home.


The pouch IS mainly for using it when you are out. At home you can use much simpler and cheaper solutions. I use a bag from coffee.
Edited by: "grumbler" 16th Sep
afroylnt16/09/2019 22:43

Keyless systems of that type are just badly designed and implemented.



How is it possible to improve them so that relay systems used by thieves didn't work?!

IMO, the fobs miss a simple on/off switch on them that would be better than a protective pouch, at least at home. However, if you switch the fob off every time you leave the car, this just defeats the purpose of keyless enty.
I have these, different brand, still works perfectly. I only use mine for at home at night, not out and about.... but that’s just me. I would recommend though as that extra layer of protection, but bottom line is - if they want it, they will steal it one way or another!
deleted8366816/09/2019 23:15

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Fine.
I leave my car in a car park and am going away from it. Two thieves are there waiting for this to happen.

At home a simple switch on the fob can do the job as I said.
Just make a little pocket out of some tin foil and duct tape
grumbler16/09/2019 23:26

Fine. I leave my car in a car park and am going away from it. Two thieves …Fine. I leave my car in a car park and am going away from it. Two thieves are there waiting for this to happen.At home a simple switch on the fob can do the job as I said.


Some systems, just cant be relayed as they use UWB signals.

carsuk.net/jag…ft/
deleted8366816/09/2019 23:28

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And your exact point is?
I drive a car with keyless entry - this is my choice. I know the risk and take precautions at home.
My point was that these pouches used when you are out defeat the purpose of the keyless entry.
Portapack in action

Can buy them on Internet quite easily. And cheaper on Chinese sites.
Nutkin16/09/2019 23:30

Some systems, just cant be relayed as they use UWB signals. …Some systems, just cant be relayed as they use UWB signals. https://www.carsuk.net/jaguar-land-rover-have-the-only-cars-not-susceptible-to-keyless-relay-theft/



Interesting, but idiotic article, mentioning some "scanners" and not giving any details.
I am no expert and may be wrong, but I don't see why a relay system can't be designed to relay UWB.
Edited by: "grumbler" 16th Sep
deleted8366816/09/2019 23:34

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"Why go in a thread you have no use for?"
What does this thread have to do with Land Rovers that apparently are safer? Are you suggesting everybody buy a Land Rover instead of a pouch?
Edited by: "grumbler" 16th Sep
grumbler16/09/2019 23:33

And your exact point is? I drive a car with keyless entry - this is my …And your exact point is? I drive a car with keyless entry - this is my choice. I know the risk and take precautions at home.My point was that these pouches used when you are out defeat the purpose of the keyless entry.


What about using fingerprint recognition on the fob with a button backup so it only transmits when one of the methods is activated. Would make the fob a little bigger I guess.
Edited by: "afroylnt" 16th Sep
afroylnt16/09/2019 23:49

What about using fingerprint recognition on the fob with a button backup.



I guess this is a joke. Not sure because it's not funny (or my SOH just fails me)
Edited by: "grumbler" 16th Sep
Its £5.99 how do you get it for £5.04?
grumbler16/09/2019 23:51

I guess this is a joke.


Well better the current carp systems that are already out there. I can see that people will pay extra for non keyless entry.
afroylnt16/09/2019 23:53

Well better the current carp systems that are already out there. I can see …Well better the current carp systems that are already out there. I can see that people will pay extra for non keyless entry.


If you are serious, then you possibly don't understand how keyless entry works and why it is vulnerable to relay theft.
If so, see this recent similar discussion - hotukdeals.com/dea…798
grumbler17/09/2019 00:00

If you are serious, then you possibly don't understand how keyless entry …If you are serious, then you possibly don't understand how keyless entry works and why it is vulnerable to relay theft.If so, see this recent similar discussion - https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/car-key-pouches-3289798


I thought one of the issues was to stop the constant transmission of signals by the fobs. Maybe its just an unsuitable system at the current time.
It's constant reception, not transmission.
The fob transmits only when it's near the car and asked by the car - when you press a button on the car.
Relay systems used by thieves increase the distance.
Edited by: "grumbler" 17th Sep
If car thieves are targeting you for your car a dodgy little pouch won’t stop them, they’ll be back the next day with crowbars and baseball bats.
grumbler16/09/2019 23:43

"Why go in a thread you have no use for?" What does this thread have to do …"Why go in a thread you have no use for?" What does this thread have to do with Land Rovers that apparently are safer? Are you suggesting everybody buy a Land Rover instead of a pouch?


Probably because land-rover are so unreliable that anyone that can start (even with a key) them are welcome to them.
These are only good for a little bit, only got like 3/4 months out of each pouch.
wh1zz16/09/2019 21:48

I have a pair of these and sleep well at night but the problem remains …I have a pair of these and sleep well at night but the problem remains when you’re out with the car. Thieves simply need to be close when you’re using it. unless you take the pouch with you at all times the problem is solved only when car is parked at home.


I use mine everywhere, not only at home. Bought these pouches in 2015, 3 in a pack, one still works.
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