2015 Giant Defy 2 Road Bike £464.98 @ Tredz
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2015 Giant Defy 2 Road Bike £464.98 @ Tredz

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Found 28th Aug 2015
Using code AUG60 you can have this for under £470 from Tredz delivered.

It has a 2x10 Tiagra transmission and a composite fork. A quality frame, as I had a Defy a while back, and a really good saving. If I hadn't had bought the recent Marin Elite road bike posted on here id have bought this.

Sizes S M/L L and XL available at time of posting.

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I tried an aluminum Bicycle at the start of the year, I dunno how people ride them, go on a Steel or Carbon frame and they're so much more comfortable.

slannmage

I tried an aluminum Bicycle at the start of the year, I dunno how people … I tried an aluminum Bicycle at the start of the year, I dunno how people ride them, go on a Steel or Carbon frame and they're so much more comfortable.



probably says more about the particular bike you were riding rather than the material, I have ridden many aluminium and carbon bikes and the difference is comfort is minimal.

slannmage

I tried an aluminum Bicycle at the start of the year, I dunno how people … I tried an aluminum Bicycle at the start of the year, I dunno how people ride them, go on a Steel or Carbon frame and they're so much more comfortable.


Advice from someone who's got more money then sense?

Original Poster

chrisbass

probably says more about the particular bike you were riding rather than … probably says more about the particular bike you were riding rather than the material, I have ridden many aluminium and carbon bikes and the difference is comfort is minimal.



I'd have to agree. With the bike I've posted, the composite fork should dampen out a degree of road buzz but as far as comfort goes I've never had a problem with comfort having had a alu road bike, an alu flat bar road bike and a couple of alu mountain bikes.

rodman

Advice from someone who's got more money then sense?



​Maybe. Wouldn't got that far.
Steel bikes (high quality ones) are more comfortable and so are carbon bikes (depends on what sort too though).
However I am riding an aluminium bike at the moment and it is very comfortable (albeit with carbon forks).
The construction and geomtery are more important.

The Defy frame is apparently extremely comfortable; more so than many carbon frames according to reviews.
Not sure how many carbon frames you would get at this price either...

slannmage

I tried an aluminum Bicycle at the start of the year, I dunno how people … I tried an aluminum Bicycle at the start of the year, I dunno how people ride them, go on a Steel or Carbon frame and they're so much more comfortable.



As someone who commuted daily on aluminium (on a bike not to dissimilar from this) before switching to high quality steel ​I have to agree. I loved my alu at the time but hard to imagine going back to it now. I've also ridden carbon and they soak up so much of the road buzz compared to alu that it increases your average speed by a couple of miles an hour.

sandrogalli

As someone who commuted daily on aluminium (on a bike not to dissimilar … As someone who commuted daily on aluminium (on a bike not to dissimilar from this) before switching to high quality steel ​I have to agree. I loved my alu at the time but hard to imagine going back to it now. I've also ridden carbon and they soak up so much of the road buzz compared to alu that it increases your average speed by a couple of miles an hour.



The two references here to aluminium, aren't at all useful to the person buying this bike. I don't know the cost of 'high quality' steel bikes, I do know that carbon ones cost a lot more than this. This bike is for those on a budget or getting their first road bike or perhaps a cheap training bike, from someone who started out cycling at the beginning of the year I can say that it's a very complicated a confusing world to the newbie and we don't need more of it. So throw in the mix some anecdotal stuff regarding aluminium bikes being uncomfortable it just adds to the headache. I have an aluminium road bike, it's perfectly comfortable and fun to ride on. While if I got some 'high quality' steel bike I might go "Oow, that's nicer on my behind", I don't think that it's relevant here unless this bike is so uncomfortable to cycle on it removes the fun. Does anyone think that this bike will be close to that level of discomfort? Or, if you have a link to a similar priced Steel\Carbon bike that offers this joyous comfort ride being talked of, please post it.

Original Poster

As Pukenukem says, if you want a carbon bike you'll be paying double for the pleasure. If you want a light, good quality bike with solid components at a good price, then this is a great start. Giant frames are solid, having a Rapid (Defy Flat Bar) 4 for over 4 years commuting to work every day, it didn't have a composite fork, was fully aluminium, and it was extremely comfortable and I had zero problems with it. This is ideal for people on a budget or want to step up from lower end components such as Claris as they progress into cycling. I can't comment on steel bikes as I've never had one but please feel free to post anything that rivals similar to this.

Angryman81

As Pukenukem says, if you want a carbon bike you'll be paying double for … As Pukenukem says, if you want a carbon bike you'll be paying double for the pleasure. If you want a light, good quality bike with solid components at a good price, then this is a great start. Giant frames are solid, having a Rapid (Defy Flat Bar) 4 for over 4 years commuting to work every day, it didn't have a composite fork, was fully aluminium, and it was extremely comfortable and I had zero problems with it. This is ideal for people on a budget or want to step up from lower end components such as Claris as they progress into cycling. I can't comment on steel bikes as I've never had one but please feel free to post anything that rivals similar to this.



My girlfriend just bought a Giant Avail, which is the womens version of the Defy I believe. It's a spec higher than this, partial 105 groupset, but frame is made from the same stuff. It's such a good bike for the money, my Cube has slightly better components (it cost £100 more), but the frame on her bike is fantastic. Light as anything and she finds loads of fun and comfortable. Not a direct comparison, but it speaks for the brand.

sandrogalli

As someone who commuted daily on aluminium (on a bike not to dissimilar … As someone who commuted daily on aluminium (on a bike not to dissimilar from this) before switching to high quality steel ​I have to agree. I loved my alu at the time but hard to imagine going back to it now. I've also ridden carbon and they soak up so much of the road buzz compared to alu that it increases your average speed by a couple of miles an hour.



Absolute nonsense, a carbon frame will not make you faster by 2 mph. Besides, you won't get a carbon bike with the same level of equipment for this price. Apples and oranges..........
Edited by: "konkywonky" 28th Aug 2015

Good find. Even though its more expensive than the Eastway R3.0 from Wiggle, I think most people would pay the extra for the Giant, the frame will almost certainly be lighter and more comfortable.
I'm not sure about the comments on here about this being a cheap/budget or starter bike, its a great bike, full stop.
Well worth the extra over the Tribans which I was very surprised to find had a rather more 'solid' sounding tubing than I was expecting, not even remotely close to the coke can sound of more expensive alloy bikes.
Edited by: "winchman" 28th Aug 2015

chrisbass

probably says more about the particular bike you were riding rather than … probably says more about the particular bike you were riding rather than the material, I have ridden many aluminium and carbon bikes and the difference is comfort is minimal.



It was a Decathlon, the one that was £750 but on sale for £500, I got it and hated it.

slannmage

It was a Decathlon, the one that was £750 but on sale for £500, I got it a … It was a Decathlon, the one that was £750 but on sale for £500, I got it and hated it.


Surely the geometry of the bike is what makes it comfortable or not, and not the material it's made from?

slannmage

It was a Decathlon, the one that was £750 but on sale for £500, I got it a … It was a Decathlon, the one that was £750 but on sale for £500, I got it and hated it.


I think my comment with regard to the tubing on the Triban might explain your dislike, seemed more like a scaffold pole.
Edited by: "winchman" 28th Aug 2015

winchman

I think my comment with regard to the tubing on the Triban might explain … I think my comment with regard to the tubing on the Triban might explain your dislike, seemed more like a scaffold pole.



It don't matter now any ways, said Shimano 105, but the gears sucked as well, I've tried several Bicycles with those gears and I don't get why people like them.

I got a Planet X Carbon Bicycle with SRAM Gears and they're so much better, though I still prefer friction gears since they never go wrong.

I also have a Rayleigh Steel Bicycle from the 80s, that's my personal favourite and it is no slower than the new Bicycles, almost as light as well. I love the Friction Gears because there is no indexing you have to do, since you can manually adjust where the chain is, you can always stop them from rubbing using the lever, not just the screws.
Edited by: "slannmage" 28th Aug 2015

slannmage

It don't matter now any ways, said Shimano 105, but the gears sucked as … It don't matter now any ways, said Shimano 105, but the gears sucked as well, I've tried several Bicycles with those gears and I don't get why people like them. I got a Planet X Carbon Bicycle with SRAM Gears and they're so much better, though I still prefer friction gears since they never go wrong.I also have a Rayleigh Steel Bicycle from the 80s, that's my personal favourite and it is no slower than the new Bicycles, almost as light as well. I love the Friction Gears because there is no indexing you have to do, since you can manually adjust where the chain is, you can always stop them from rubbing using the lever, not just the screws.


Certainly agree with you with regard to the front deraillier.

I have the defy 3 and I find it very comfortable, the defy 2 is astep up and this is one amazing price fpr this bike. giant are the best at alu frame bikes and the carbon fits on this will dampen oit any issues. well worth it. heat added

Brought this bike from Tredz last Sunday,arrived Wednesday,took it out for 30 mile ride yesterday,Very comfortable ride and the bike was set up really well, voted hot

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justathome

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How is this expired please? The code is valid for another 2 days and the bikes are in stock?

SuperEd

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All ok here atm

pukenukem

The two references here to aluminium, aren't at all useful to the person … The two references here to aluminium, aren't at all useful to the person buying this bike. I don't know the cost of 'high quality' steel bikes, I do know that carbon ones cost a lot more than this. This bike is for those on a budget or getting their first road bike or perhaps a cheap training bike, from someone who started out cycling at the beginning of the year I can say that it's a very complicated a confusing world to the newbie and we don't need more of it. So throw in the mix some anecdotal stuff regarding aluminium bikes being uncomfortable it just adds to the headache. I have an aluminium road bike, it's perfectly comfortable and fun to ride on. While if I got some 'high quality' steel bike I might go "Oow, that's nicer on my behind", I don't think that it's relevant here unless this bike is so uncomfortable to cycle on it removes the fun. Does anyone think that this bike will be close to that level of discomfort? Or, if you have a link to a similar priced Steel\Carbon bike that offers this joyous comfort ride being talked of, please post it.



Here are a couple of similarly priced steel/carbon bikes posted on hukd. As I mentioned alu is fine, however steel/carbon in my experience is significantly more comfortable and faster (bike same weight, data doesn't lie)...

hotukdeals.com/dea…966
hotukdeals.com/dea…686

I went from an Aluminium Giant SCR to a carbon Giant TCR and the comfort levels was slightly noticeable, but not as significant as when I changed from 23mm to 25mm tyres and dropped 10psi.

As long as the aluminium bike has carbon forks, it should be fine. I bought a carbon seat post from Wiggle for thirty quid and it was grand!

Great find. Heated. This is a lovely bike at a bargain price
To counteract the opening comments about frame material. Don't listen to this sort of nonsense. All frame materials have their prose and cons. And a well constructed aluminium frame is the best compromise for a beginner cyclist or for someone looking for an all-round road bike.
Giant Defy alu frame is probably one of the most comfortable road alu frames you can buy. This comes from someone who owned a Defy 3 along with three other alu road bikes (cheap Merida, Boardman Team and Trek 1.5). Giant is easily the most comfortable bike of the lot.
Having said that, in my experience the biggest impact on comfort of a road bike comes from tyres, seatpost and bar tape. Sloping top tube on a compact geometry frame combined with a carbon seatpost and a good saddle will make a massive difference.

Banned

Is this a good bike for the money? I'm looking to get a road bike and thinking fixed wheel. Is this wise?

It wasn't that long ago that all the professionals were on aluminium bikes - they managed to get through the tour de france and others in spite of the alleged harshness.

Steel and carbon do give a smoother rider but that doesn't mean aluminium is 'bad'. If your ride is harsh you should be looking at your tyres first.

perky1978

Is this a good bike for the money? I'm looking to get a road bike and … Is this a good bike for the money? I'm looking to get a road bike and thinking fixed wheel. Is this wise?



Last year I bought a Giant flat bar road bike with the same gearing and I thought it was a steal at £650

sandrogalli

Here are a couple of similarly priced steel/carbon bikes posted on hukd. … Here are a couple of similarly priced steel/carbon bikes posted on hukd. As I mentioned alu is fine, however steel/carbon in my experience is significantly more comfortable and faster (bike same weight, data doesn't lie)...http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/genesis-volare-10-2015-road-bike-499-00-wheelies-direct-2253966http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/ventura-cp50-700c-22-inch-23-inch-carbon-fibre-pro-road-bike-unisex-argos-for-399-2264686


Think the Genesis is out of stock now, there is the steel Eastway ST1.0 at wiggle but almost out of stock.

perky1978

Is this a good bike for the money? I'm looking to get a road bike and … Is this a good bike for the money? I'm looking to get a road bike and thinking fixed wheel. Is this wise?


ukbikesdepot.com/m16…015
Something like this?

sandrogalli

Here are a couple of similarly priced steel/carbon bikes posted on hukd. … Here are a couple of similarly priced steel/carbon bikes posted on hukd. As I mentioned alu is fine, however steel/carbon in my experience is significantly more comfortable and faster (bike same weight, data doesn't lie)...http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/genesis-volare-10-2015-road-bike-499-00-wheelies-direct-2253966http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/ventura-cp50-700c-22-inch-23-inch-carbon-fibre-pro-road-bike-unisex-argos-for-399-2264686


You must have been running 23mm tyres or your commute was 30 miles each way! I tend to run 28mm tyres and the difference between carbon and alu is not very pronounced. Yes, carbon is better. But it's also more expensive and far more fragile (especially cheap carbon). Personally I couldn't justify hammering my carbon road bike on a daily commute.
Steel is another story altogether. Great feel and comfort. The genesis bike is lovely. But in my opinion steel has no place on a proper road bike. One that is designed to be light, stiff, with no disc brakes and narrow tyre clearances.

Looking at this for a first bike, any suggestions of pedals to go with these?

I run the same wheels and 23mm contis on both bikes. Commute is 11 miles.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with alu.. with similar geometry if anything it is a little stiffer than reynolds/chromoly steel, but the compliance will likely be less than steel or carbon bikes within a similar price range.

A few years ago alu was probably the go to for sub £500 road bikes but these days people can choose which frame material they want within that budget.

Check out LBS and sales around this time of year and you will find sora/tiagra setups in all three frame materials so really its down to what works for people's own needs.

Looking at this for a first bike, any suggestions of pedals to go with these?

Fantastic bike, ive got the 2014 version of it and it's a great bikee to ride, paid a lot more than this for it, bargain at this price, Hot!!

dprovan

Looking at this for a first bike, any suggestions of pedals to go with … Looking at this for a first bike, any suggestions of pedals to go with these?


Depends on what type of shoes you are wearing, i use spds so just have a set of shimano m520's on mine

Most people new to bikes, just buy what they think is the correct size, without getting it fitted properly, this is why the bike will be uncomfortable. Also, a lot of people live with the saddle they get with the bike, to me this is the source of a lot of discomfort. I went and got fitted for a Specialized saddle, always had 143mm saddles (Fizik et al), found out I needed the 168mm during the fitting, and I certainly don't have a big ass. I've been butt pain free ever since, in addition to setting the bike up properly.
Edited by: "Bazza71" 29th Aug 2015

basergorkobal

Great find. Heated. This is a lovely bike at a bargain priceTo counteract … Great find. Heated. This is a lovely bike at a bargain priceTo counteract the opening comments about frame material. Don't listen to this sort of nonsense. All frame materials have their prose and cons. And a well constructed aluminium frame is the best compromise for a beginner cyclist or for someone looking for an all-round road bike.Giant Defy alu frame is probably one of the most comfortable road alu frames you can buy. This comes from someone who owned a Defy 3 along with three other alu road bikes (cheap Merida, Boardman Team and Trek 1.5). Giant is easily the most comfortable bike of the lot.Having said that, in my experience the biggest impact on comfort of a road bike comes from tyres, seatpost and bar tape. Sloping top tube on a compact geometry frame combined with a carbon seatpost and a good saddle will make a massive difference.


This is actual advice that helps. Never thought about bar tape!

souljacker

Depends on what type of shoes you are wearing, i use spds so just have a … Depends on what type of shoes you are wearing, i use spds so just have a set of shimano m520's on mine



When i said i am new i meant really new, I dont even have shoes So my next question is can i not just wear any bike shoes with any pedal or so i need to be mindful of anything in particular?

dprovan

When i said i am new i meant really new, I dont even have shoes So my … When i said i am new i meant really new, I dont even have shoes So my next question is can i not just wear any bike shoes with any pedal or so i need to be mindful of anything in particular?


If you are commuting and walking any distance, then I would suggest a set of SPDs and a set of MTB shoes.
If you are just road biking for fitness purposes, then get a set of SPD-SL pedals an a pair of road biking shoes.

wiggle.co.uk/shi…ls/ - can be used with plain shoes, also
wiggle.co.uk/shi…es/

wiggle.co.uk/shi…ls/
wiggle.co.uk/dhb…oe/

wiggle.co.uk/shi…ts/
wiggle.co.uk/shi…-1/

The cleats tend to come with the pedals as a starter.

Edited by: "Bazza71" 29th Aug 2015
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