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2018 Apple MacBook Pro 13" Touch Bar, Intel Core i5, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD, Silver with 2 years guarantee included

The (2018) MacBook Pro 13” with Apple’s cutting edge Touch Bar technology and Retina display has been created with an Intel Core i5 processor and 8GB RAM. It’s been designed and built to aid the ideas you have and for the work you do every day.

Simple touch The Touch Bar replaces the function keys that have long occupied the top of the keyboard. It changes automatically based on what you’re doing to show you relevant tools you already know how to use, such as system controls like volume and brightness, interactive ways to adjust or browse through content, intelligent typing features like emoji and predictive text and more.

Solid State Drive The 256GB Solid State Drive (SSD) gives you capacity to store your documents and media, while ensuring speedy and dependable access to your files and programs. SSDs are much faster than regular hard drives and don't use moving parts to work, making them more reliable and quieter.

Retina display Featuring 500 nits brightness, the MacBook Pro 13” delivers deep blacks and bright whites. It supports wide colour for even more vibrant greens and reds than with sRGB – this makes for more true-to-life pictures with realistically vivid details.

Typing and clicking Interacting with MacBook Pro is a smooth experience all round. The updated keyboard is a pleasure to use, while the spacious Force Touch Trackpad with Multi-Touch gestures support gives your fingers plenty of room to gesture and click.
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Mac v PC arguments are some of the stupidest threads I read on here.

Why can you all not let people be. If they are PC people then so be it.

If they are Mac people then so be it.

If you have no interest in the thread, then why just not scroll on by? Why do you feel the need to spread your doctrine according to whatever?

And to be fair. It is nearly always PC people who come into the Mac threads and cry and whinge. Look we get it you won’t buy a Mac, that’s cool, just slide on by then, for those people that do it is not your job to convince them otherwise, just go away.

And of course same for the conversionists in a PC thread - although let’s be honest that doesn’t really happen.

Why would that be - maybe because Mac people are just more content?
gowf02/01/2020 00:32

For comparison the HP deal today had ryzen 3500u (faster cpu and better …For comparison the HP deal today had ryzen 3500u (faster cpu and better graphics), same ram, double ssd, 720p camera, and IPs screen... for £369


Sorry but you can’t compare a pc with a Mac. Mac’s just work, and for years and years, my current MacBook Pro is 2014 and iMac is 2009 and both still going strong. This is not the case for pc’s. Yes they are more expensive but the build quality is a lot better and last longer.

If you are happy to buy a laptop that is gunna go tits up after couple of years just to browse the net then ye get a windows if you wana save a bit of money in the short term.
Edited by: "KL88" 2nd Jan
KL8801/01/2020 23:58

So are the keyboards on the 2019 models onwards are all good? Thanks


Only 16 inch model, 13 inch model keyboard is still unchanged. Apple will be releasing 14 inch model in March which will have same keyboard as 16 inch model.
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The 2019 space grey is only £45 more...or am I missing something?
LazyDonkey01/01/2020 23:15

The 2019 space grey is only £45 more...or am I missing something?


Yes, buying MacBook Pro 13" in 2018 or 15" in 2018/2019 was a raw deal.
"cutting edge Touch Bar technology"


LOL
It’s keyboard (guess butterfly mechanism) was defective which was changed by Apple in 2019 model. Cold - on that account.
LazyDonkey01/01/2020 23:15

The 2019 space grey is only £45 more...or am I missing something?


Nope, seems sensible.
Spec is 8th gen CPU and 256gb SSD 8gb RAM. 720p facetime camera with 227ppi screen resolution.

For comparison a Surface Pro 7 is 10th gen, 256gb SSD and 8gb ram 5.0mp front camera (8.0mp rear) and 267ppi screen resolution. Can be had for circa £900 with a keyboard.
VK0001/01/2020 23:51

It’s keyboard (guess butterfly mechanism) was defective which was changed b …It’s keyboard (guess butterfly mechanism) was defective which was changed by Apple in 2019 model. Cold - on that account.


So are the keyboards on the 2019 models onwards are all good? Thanks
I believe Apple have reverted back to original mechanism
KL8801/01/2020 23:58

So are the keyboards on the 2019 models onwards are all good? Thanks


Only 16 inch model, 13 inch model keyboard is still unchanged. Apple will be releasing 14 inch model in March which will have same keyboard as 16 inch model.
CheapoChaser01/01/2020 23:57

Spec is 8th gen CPU and 256gb SSD 8gb RAM. 720p facetime camera with …Spec is 8th gen CPU and 256gb SSD 8gb RAM. 720p facetime camera with 227ppi screen resolution.For comparison a Surface Pro 7 is 10th gen, 256gb SSD and 8gb ram 5.0mp front camera (8.0mp rear) and 267ppi screen resolution. Can be had for circa £900 with a keyboard.


For comparison the HP deal today had ryzen 3500u (faster cpu and better graphics), same ram, double ssd, 720p camera, and IPs screen... for £369
LazyDonkey01/01/2020 23:15

The 2019 space grey is only £45 more...or am I missing something?


Think this is the 2.3ghz model as the 2019 for £45 quid more is the base model 1.4ghz
gowf02/01/2020 00:32

For comparison the HP deal today had ryzen 3500u (faster cpu and better …For comparison the HP deal today had ryzen 3500u (faster cpu and better graphics), same ram, double ssd, 720p camera, and IPs screen... for £369


Sorry but you can’t compare a pc with a Mac. Mac’s just work, and for years and years, my current MacBook Pro is 2014 and iMac is 2009 and both still going strong. This is not the case for pc’s. Yes they are more expensive but the build quality is a lot better and last longer.

If you are happy to buy a laptop that is gunna go tits up after couple of years just to browse the net then ye get a windows if you wana save a bit of money in the short term.
Edited by: "KL88" 2nd Jan
KL8802/01/2020 09:19

Sorry but you can’t compare a pc with a Mac. Mac’s just work, and for yea …Sorry but you can’t compare a pc with a Mac. Mac’s just work, and for years and years, my current MacBook Pro is 2014 and iMac is 2009 and both still going strong. This is not the case for pc’s. Yes they are more expensive but the build quality is a lot better and last longer.If you are happy to buy a laptop that is gunna go tits up after couple of years just to browse the net then ye get a windows if you wana save a bit of money in the short term.


I’m sorry but the whole “I use a Mac from the Victorian era” argument is total fallacy. I have had three laptops in my life, all windows ones. The dell Inspiron lasted five years through my university days and still worked but the processor simply couldn’t handle the newer games and apps I wanted to run.

The Lenovo u31 I next had lasted 6 years and I recently sold it on eBay for half its original price. That was still very fast because of the ssd. It was also upgradeble with spare slots for ram and ssd.

I suspect my next laptop a zenbook will run for that much time as well.

There are plenty of premium Windows laptops as well. The thinkpad range springs to mind.

But for the price of the above you could just upgrade a new laptop every 2-3 years and still get a better laptop. You cannot be seriously arguing a MacBook from 2014 haswell will run nearly as well as the HP

There’s also a bit of a selection bias here, MacBook users are far more likely to be business users and therefore look after their laptops better than say a student.

Anyway, rant over
gowf02/01/2020 10:14

I’m sorry but the whole “I use a Mac from the Victorian era” argument is to …I’m sorry but the whole “I use a Mac from the Victorian era” argument is total fallacy. I have had three laptops in my life, all windows ones. The dell Inspiron lasted five years through my university days and still worked but the processor simply couldn’t handle the newer games and apps I wanted to run. The Lenovo u31 I next had lasted 6 years and I recently sold it on eBay for half its original price. That was still very fast because of the ssd. It was also upgradeble with spare slots for ram and ssd.I suspect my next laptop a zenbook will run for that much time as well. There are plenty of premium Windows laptops as well. The thinkpad range springs to mind. But for the price of the above you could just upgrade a new laptop every 2-3 years and still get a better laptop. You cannot be seriously arguing a MacBook from 2014 haswell will run nearly as well as the HPThere’s also a bit of a selection bias here, MacBook users are far more likely to be business users and therefore look after their laptops better than say a student. Anyway, rant over


If you don’t use macs daily then you wouldn’t know or see why they are better. I unfortunately have to use windows at work daily and it’s dog , which is the main reasons pc’s are awful in comparisons to Mac.
Is this touchscreen? I expect it to be at this price.
gowf02/01/2020 10:14

I’m sorry but the whole “I use a Mac from the Victorian era” argument is to …I’m sorry but the whole “I use a Mac from the Victorian era” argument is total fallacy. I have had three laptops in my life, all windows ones. The dell Inspiron lasted five years through my university days and still worked but the processor simply couldn’t handle the newer games and apps I wanted to run. The Lenovo u31 I next had lasted 6 years and I recently sold it on eBay for half its original price. That was still very fast because of the ssd. It was also upgradeble with spare slots for ram and ssd.I suspect my next laptop a zenbook will run for that much time as well. There are plenty of premium Windows laptops as well. The thinkpad range springs to mind. But for the price of the above you could just upgrade a new laptop every 2-3 years and still get a better laptop. You cannot be seriously arguing a MacBook from 2014 haswell will run nearly as well as the HPThere’s also a bit of a selection bias here, MacBook users are far more likely to be business users and therefore look after their laptops better than say a student. Anyway, rant over


Listen some people have to justify why they spend £1300 on a laptop even though they can probably spend a quarter of that to match their needs. Luckily me and you are not stupid. Rant over
KL8802/01/2020 15:49

If you don’t use macs daily then you wouldn’t know or see why they are bet …If you don’t use macs daily then you wouldn’t know or see why they are better. I unfortunately have to use windows at work daily and it’s dog , which is the main reasons pc’s are awful in comparisons to Mac.


This applies both ways, you’ve not used windows laptops in depth how would you know?

What a silly line of debate.

I use apple products don’t get me wrong, I’ve used iPhones since 2009 and iPads for a while, but the laptops have never been worth it for me. Too expensive for too little gain.

At the end of the day the i5 processor is the same in a Mac as it is in a x1 carbon.

It’s like the same engine in an Audi vs a skoda, both get you from A-B but one is better built.

Except the MacBook Pro is 5 times the price. What a joke.
Mac v PC arguments are some of the stupidest threads I read on here.

Why can you all not let people be. If they are PC people then so be it.

If they are Mac people then so be it.

If you have no interest in the thread, then why just not scroll on by? Why do you feel the need to spread your doctrine according to whatever?

And to be fair. It is nearly always PC people who come into the Mac threads and cry and whinge. Look we get it you won’t buy a Mac, that’s cool, just slide on by then, for those people that do it is not your job to convince them otherwise, just go away.

And of course same for the conversionists in a PC thread - although let’s be honest that doesn’t really happen.

Why would that be - maybe because Mac people are just more content?
TomBoyNI02/01/2020 18:20

Mac v PC arguments are some of the stupidest threads I read on here. Why …Mac v PC arguments are some of the stupidest threads I read on here. Why can you all not let people be. If they are PC people then so be it. If they are Mac people then so be it. If you have no interest in the thread, then why just not scroll on by? Why do you feel the need to spread your doctrine according to whatever?And to be fair. It is nearly always PC people who come into the Mac threads and cry and whinge. Look we get it you won’t buy a Mac, that’s cool, just slide on by then, for those people that do it is not your job to convince them otherwise, just go away. And of course same for the conversionists in a PC thread - although let’s be honest that doesn’t really happen. Why would that be - maybe because Mac people are just more content?


Excellent post. I’ve been a member here since 2007 and over the years, it’s taken an unpleasant diversion from the very simple concept of its creation and the reason of its existence. You are quite accurate where you state that the ‘hate campaigns’, majority of the time, are driven from one particular side...
Edited by: "ap123ap" 2nd Jan
There is always one to say save money buy Windows. Poor sods.
gowf02/01/2020 18:09

This applies both ways, you’ve not used windows laptops in depth how would …This applies both ways, you’ve not used windows laptops in depth how would you know?What a silly line of debate. I use apple products don’t get me wrong, I’ve used iPhones since 2009 and iPads for a while, but the laptops have never been worth it for me. Too expensive for too little gain.At the end of the day the i5 processor is the same in a Mac as it is in a x1 carbon.It’s like the same engine in an Audi vs a skoda, both get you from A-B but one is better built. Except the MacBook Pro is 5 times the price. What a joke.


Like I stated, Im stuck using windows at work and grew up using them before realising what a waste of space they are in comparison.
TomBoyNI02/01/2020 18:20

Mac v PC arguments are some of the stupidest threads I read on here. Why …Mac v PC arguments are some of the stupidest threads I read on here. Why can you all not let people be. If they are PC people then so be it. If they are Mac people then so be it. If you have no interest in the thread, then why just not scroll on by? Why do you feel the need to spread your doctrine according to whatever?And to be fair. It is nearly always PC people who come into the Mac threads and cry and whinge. Look we get it you won’t buy a Mac, that’s cool, just slide on by then, for those people that do it is not your job to convince them otherwise, just go away. And of course same for the conversionists in a PC thread - although let’s be honest that doesn’t really happen. Why would that be - maybe because Mac people are just more content?


I was under the impression that HUKD or any other forum for that matter, was about discussion of options and prices and if there are alternatives which are better/worse, to lay them open.

This isn't comparing a car to a plane, its comparing two laptops or computers - with similar parts and functionality.
gowf03/01/2020 09:42

I was under the impression that HUKD or any other forum for that matter, …I was under the impression that HUKD or any other forum for that matter, was about discussion of options and prices and if there are alternatives which are better/worse, to lay them open.This isn't comparing a car to a plane, its comparing two laptops or computers - with similar parts and functionality.


I was under that impression too.

So if you could point out this device at a cheaper price please do so.

The alternative argument is moot. For every laptop posted there is a cheaper option.

For your comparison to be fair it would need to be like for like. So could you point out a a laptop that does OSX, the integration into the Apple ecosystem, iMessage, Photos blah blah blah. It is not just laptop v laptop otherwise very little would get past the likes of the Fivetech machines.
TomBoyNI03/01/2020 09:59

I was under that impression too. So if you could point out this device at …I was under that impression too. So if you could point out this device at a cheaper price please do so. The alternative argument is moot. For every laptop posted there is a cheaper option. For your comparison to be fair it would need to be like for like. So could you point out a a laptop that does OSX, the integration into the Apple ecosystem, iMessage, Photos blah blah blah. It is not just laptop v laptop otherwise very little would get past the likes of the Fivetech machines.


this is a ridiculous argument. If you set so many criteria then of course you can only get another macbook. Thats like saying you can only compare this audi car to another that has 4 rings on the logo.

Comparing a macbook with an i5 and 8gb ram to a windows laptop with an i5 or i7 and 8gb ram is reasonable and like for like.

You are making a fundamental assumption that people are looking on the thread for those things listed - perhaps thats what you are looking for, doesn't translate to everyone else. Some people arent decided on apple or windows.

If you dont like PC people commenting why the same spec windows laptop is much cheaper than a macbook when people are looking for a laptop then perhaps it is you that needs to "go away". this idea that people cant comment on an apple thread with windows alternatives is in itself, a hypocritical doctrine.
gowf02/01/2020 00:32

For comparison the HP deal today had ryzen 3500u (faster cpu and better …For comparison the HP deal today had ryzen 3500u (faster cpu and better graphics), same ram, double ssd, 720p camera, and IPs screen... for £369


Go have a look at that £369 laptop screen and compare it to the Mac. I will laugh in your face if you think it’s remotely compatible. MacBook screens are outstanding and nothing comes even close.
irabbs702/01/2020 15:55

Is this touchscreen? I expect it to be at this price.


No but it’s one of the most accurate screens you can get on the market. I know what I would prefer.
gowf02/01/2020 18:09

This applies both ways, you’ve not used windows laptops in depth how would …This applies both ways, you’ve not used windows laptops in depth how would you know?What a silly line of debate. I use apple products don’t get me wrong, I’ve used iPhones since 2009 and iPads for a while, but the laptops have never been worth it for me. Too expensive for too little gain.At the end of the day the i5 processor is the same in a Mac as it is in a x1 carbon.It’s like the same engine in an Audi vs a skoda, both get you from A-B but one is better built. Except the MacBook Pro is 5 times the price. What a joke.


Oh be quiet little boy. If you can’t afford it scroll onto a £200 laptop deal and then feel good that you didn’t buy a Mac. One day you will get the pleasure of using one and the penny will drop.
Zegna03/01/2020 11:31

Go have a look at that £369 laptop screen and compare it to the Mac. I …Go have a look at that £369 laptop screen and compare it to the Mac. I will laugh in your face if you think it’s remotely compatible. MacBook screens are outstanding and nothing comes even close.


it is a similar powered processor at 1/4 of the price. No one is saying apple aren't well made. But this is a website based on discussion of viable alternatives to save money for the average consumer.


Zegna03/01/2020 11:33

Oh be quiet little boy. If you can’t afford it scroll onto a £200 laptop de …Oh be quiet little boy. If you can’t afford it scroll onto a £200 laptop deal and then feel good that you didn’t buy a Mac. One day you will get the pleasure of using one and the penny will drop.


I find people who resort to personal attacks like this are the ones who are the real little boys. If you cant string together a cohesive counterargument without resorting to calling names then I kind of feel sorry for you.
gowf03/01/2020 10:11

this is a ridiculous argument. If you set so many criteria then of course …this is a ridiculous argument. If you set so many criteria then of course you can only get another macbook. Thats like saying you can only compare this audi car to another that has 4 rings on the logo.Comparing a macbook with an i5 and 8gb ram to a windows laptop with an i5 or i7 and 8gb ram is reasonable and like for like. You are making a fundamental assumption that people are looking on the thread for those things listed - perhaps thats what you are looking for, doesn't translate to everyone else. Some people arent decided on apple or windows.If you dont like PC people commenting why the same spec windows laptop is much cheaper than a macbook when people are looking for a laptop then perhaps it is you that needs to "go away". this idea that people cant comment on an apple thread with windows alternatives is in itself, a hypocritical doctrine.


I’m with @TomBoyNI on this one. Windows and mac machines utilise their hardware in different ways so a comparison of the two is irrelevant (in my opinion). There is also build quality that comes into play. Comparing machines with the same operating systems is more suitable in my opinion and I find comments based around this helpful and relevant.

I’m in the market for a new machine right now and I’m finding myself gravitating toward a mac... it’s painful to see much higher specs available at lower prices with windows but there’s much more to it than that. It’s all about the experience, to the point where you feel good about picking up a device and using it. Popped into John Lewis yesterday and looked at a Dell XPS and a zenbook pro. Neither made me feel like parting with my cash...
ap123ap03/01/2020 13:20

I’m with @TomBoyNI on this one. Windows and mac machines utilise their h …I’m with @TomBoyNI on this one. Windows and mac machines utilise their hardware in different ways so a comparison of the two is irrelevant (in my opinion). There is also build quality that comes into play. Comparing machines with the same operating systems is more suitable in my opinion and I find comments based around this helpful and relevant. I’m in the market for a new machine right now and I’m finding myself gravitating toward a mac... it’s painful to see much higher specs available at lower prices with windows but there’s much more to it than that. It’s all about the experience, to the point where you feel good about picking up a device and using it. Popped into John Lewis yesterday and looked at a Dell XPS and a zenbook pro. Neither made me feel like parting with my cash...


hi ap - the macbook is a well built product, no doubt about it. I appreciate apple products. I use the iphone and have used macbooks in the past for work.

however the question is whether it is reasonable to be able to post on here about windows alternatives which are cheaper, but provide similar specs or functionality.
gowf03/01/2020 10:11

this is a ridiculous argument. If you set so many criteria then of course …this is a ridiculous argument. If you set so many criteria then of course you can only get another macbook. Thats like saying you can only compare this audi car to another that has 4 rings on the logo.Comparing a macbook with an i5 and 8gb ram to a windows laptop with an i5 or i7 and 8gb ram is reasonable and like for like. You are making a fundamental assumption that people are looking on the thread for those things listed - perhaps thats what you are looking for, doesn't translate to everyone else. Some people arent decided on apple or windows.If you dont like PC people commenting why the same spec windows laptop is much cheaper than a macbook when people are looking for a laptop then perhaps it is you that needs to "go away". this idea that people cant comment on an apple thread with windows alternatives is in itself, a hypocritical doctrine.


But the point is my comparison makes perfect sense when you look at the functionality of a machine and in all honesty yours doesn’t.

People may choose (and probably do choose) an Apple laptop because of what it can do. OSX, iMessage etc...

The majority of people do not go ‘I want an i7 xghz machine as my next laptop.’ They say I need a machine that does xyz or plays xyz. So having criteria set for the machine you are looking to buy makes perfect sense. It is hardly ridiculous to buy a machine that does the tasks you want it to do.

But I will take your advice and go away. This is exactly the type of conversation that is just redundant on this forum. I won’t become part of the problem, you carry on and continue to fuel a fire that doesn’t need to burn.

I’ll continue to enjoy my fruit based technology.
TomBoyNI03/01/2020 13:55

But the point is my comparison makes perfect sense when you look at the …But the point is my comparison makes perfect sense when you look at the functionality of a machine and in all honesty yours doesn’t. People may choose (and probably do choose) an Apple laptop because of what it can do. OSX, iMessage etc...The majority of people do not go ‘I want an i7 xghz machine as my next laptop.’ They say I need a machine that does xyz or plays xyz. So having criteria set for the machine you are looking to buy makes perfect sense. It is hardly ridiculous to buy a machine that does the tasks you want it to do. But I will take your advice and go away. This is exactly the type of conversation that is just redundant on this forum. I won’t become part of the problem, you carry on and continue to fuel a fire that doesn’t need to burn. I’ll continue to enjoy my fruit based technology.


Hi Tom

thanks for your post.

I would say that functionality cuts both ways - it could be what the OS is and the functions that come with that OS such as imessaging - as you have alluded to, or what the machine can do and how quickly it does these things (eg word processing, gaming etc). In the latter situation, specs have some say in the ability of the machine to do those tasks. Yes of course it isnt the whole picture, but it plays a big role.

Incidentally, the "go away" was your original quote, hence why I placed them in the quote marks. Anyway post, dont post, its all good. Nearly all social media would be redundant if we are playing by your rules.
Edited by: "gowf" 3rd Jan
Does anybody know if this is a twin core or a quad core i5?
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gowf02/01/2020 00:32

For comparison the HP deal today had ryzen 3500u (faster cpu and better …For comparison the HP deal today had ryzen 3500u (faster cpu and better graphics), same ram, double ssd, 720p camera, and IPs screen... for £369


I develop software and mostly worked on Windows except last 1.5 years. It is very easy to work on mac. I have seen contractors come with windows laptop and struggling for days just to get project setup working and ultimately buying macbook. And they (contractors) cost £550 per day!
Spod03/01/2020 17:26

Does anybody know if this is a twin core or a quad core i5?


Quad core
For those interested, these are OOS online but stores still have stock. I managed to bag the last space grey from Birmingham. Scanned at £1250 too which was a pleasant surprise.
KL8802/01/2020 09:19

Sorry but you can’t compare a pc with a Mac. Mac’s just work, and for yea …Sorry but you can’t compare a pc with a Mac. Mac’s just work, and for years and years, my current MacBook Pro is 2014 and iMac is 2009 and both still going strong. This is not the case for pc’s. Yes they are more expensive but the build quality is a lot better and last longer.If you are happy to buy a laptop that is gunna go tits up after couple of years just to browse the net then ye get a windows if you wana save a bit of money in the short term.


The "Mac's just work" line hasn't been true for some time now, software and hardware issues are a plenty. You are applying the old sales spiel to products that no longer deserve it.

I would love to update my 2013 MBPr but the new ones are not fit for purpose. Gimmicky "touchbar" developments whilst removing useable ports, Magsafe and "that" keyboard are all big steps back, whilst Win 7 & 10 (not without their faults) on my SP4 have to me proved just as reliable.

People saying this cannot and should not be compared to other options need to open their minds.
Edited by: "KingBurger" 4th Jan
KingBurger04/01/2020 19:47

The "Mac's just work" line hasn't been true for some time now, software …The "Mac's just work" line hasn't been true for some time now, software and hardware issues are a plenty. You are applying the old sales spiel to products that no longer deserve it. I would love to update my 2013 MBPr but the new ones are not fit for purpose. Gimmicky "touchbar" developments whilst removing useable ports, Magsafe and "that" keyboard are all big steps back, whilst Win 7 & 10 (not without their faults) on my SP4 have to me proved just as reliable.People saying this cannot and should not be compared to other options need to open their minds.


Can I ask what you have done to keep your MB Pro running, as my late 2013 model is sluggish as hell and virtually unusable. The RAM was doubled years ago and made very little difference.
LazyDonkey04/01/2020 21:14

Can I ask what you have done to keep your MB Pro running, as my late 2013 …Can I ask what you have done to keep your MB Pro running, as my late 2013 model is sluggish as hell and virtually unusable. The RAM was doubled years ago and made very little difference.


What version of MacOS are you running? I have stopped at Sierra as the newer versions all had issues and as I need to use mine for work I couldn't risk having to deal with flakey software. It runs as fresh as the day I bought it (I do a fresh install periodically, old Windows habit) and is fine. I wish I had gone for the better CPU and bigger SSD, but hey ho! I would really like to go for a newer version but the only thing Pro now about it is the pricing.
KingBurger04/01/2020 21:21

What version of MacOS are you running? I have stopped at Sierra as the …What version of MacOS are you running? I have stopped at Sierra as the newer versions all had issues and as I need to use mine for work I couldn't risk having to deal with flakey software. It runs as fresh as the day I bought it (I do a fresh install periodically, old Windows habit) and is fine. I wish I had gone for the better CPU and bigger SSD, but hey ho! I would really like to go for a newer version but the only thing Pro now about it is the pricing.



I always update just before a new OS ships; that way I am always one OS behind but it is very stable. Back up before you update of cause.

I am on 10.14.6 which was the last version of Mojave.
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