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2020 HP ENVY x360 13, 2-in-1, Touchscreen, Ryzen 7 4700U 2.0GHz, 16GB DDR4, 512GB SSD, FHD IPS £926.26 at HP Shop
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2020 HP ENVY x360 13, 2-in-1, Touchscreen, Ryzen 7 4700U 2.0GHz, 16GB DDR4, 512GB SSD, FHD IPS £926.26 at HP Shop

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Posted 7th May
Just released and comes with Ryzen 7 4700U.

No GPU, so not for gamers. For the consumer who wants a portable device, with the latest specs, good port selection, stylish, lightish etc.

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Ready whenever inspiration strikes. Bring true-to-life, vibrant visuals to your screen anywhere, anytime with this versatile, convertible PC with long battery life. Simultaneously use the touch and pen[2] input to capture every detail of your sketches and rest easy knowing your creations are under wraps until you’re ready to share them.

  • Windows 10 Home 64
  • AMD Ryzen™ 7 4700U (2.0 GHz base clock, up to 4.2 GHz max boost clock, 4 MB L2 cache, 8 cores)
  • 33.8 cm (13.3") diagonal FHD, IPS, BrightView, micro-edge, WLED-backlit, multitouch-enabled, edge-to-edge glass with Corning® Gorilla® Glass NBT™, 300 nits, 72% NTSC (1920 x 1080)
  • 16 GB memory; 512 GB PCIe® NVMe™ M.2 SSD
  • Audio by Bang & Olufsen; HP Audio Boost; Fast Charge; Backlit keyboard; Faster 2x2 Wi-Fi®; Fingerprint reader

1 SuperSpeed USB Type-C® 10Gbps signaling rate (USB Power Delivery, DisplayPort™ 1.4, HP Sleep and Charge)
1 SuperSpeed USB Type-A 5Gbps signaling rate (HP Sleep and Charge)
1 SuperSpeed USB Type-A 5Gbps signaling rate
1 AC smart pin
1 headphone/microphone comboWirelessRealtek Wi-Fi 5 (2x2) and Bluetooth® 5 comboExpansion slots1 microSD media card readerWireless NoteMU-MIMO supported
Miracast compatible Wireless technologies footnote number[14]
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Looks like a nice bit of kit, not crazy cheap though,
Minstadave07/05/2020 11:07

Looks like a nice bit of kit, not crazy cheap though,


If there was a 4k option at a couple hundred more I would bite, simply because I need more ram than my 8gb in Surface Book 2.

Would be gutted to get rid of SB2 though, it's such a great laptop.
Looks sharp but yes a lot of cash still
4800u with TB and I would have been tempted.
The new ryzen mobile 4700u is a beast, crushes Intel 10gen mobile. Heat from me.
Almost Nvidia MX 350 levels with the APU
spinach_pie07/05/2020 11:11

If there was a 4k option at a couple hundred more I would bite, simply …If there was a 4k option at a couple hundred more I would bite, simply because I need more ram than my 8gb in Surface Book 2. Would be gutted to get rid of SB2 though, it's such a great laptop.


4k? on a 13 inch screen?
shame a new device like this doesn't have at least 2 USB-C and Wifi 6
£899.99, same configuration with student discount
Lot of £££ for HP. Their service has gone worse over the years. Struggled with HP printer support.
JohnSmith3307/05/2020 11:41

4k? on a 13 inch screen?


Yes please.
Edited by: "spinach_pie" 7th May
spinach_pie07/05/2020 11:52

Yes please.


I guess if you like worse battery life and odd scaling issues...
ranandg07/05/2020 11:48

Lot of £££ for HP. Their service has gone worse over the years. Struggled w …Lot of £££ for HP. Their service has gone worse over the years. Struggled with HP printer support.


Their printer business is not really the same as the laptop business.
Lenovo yoga slim 7 out soon will be cheaper
JohnSmith3307/05/2020 11:41

4k? on a 13 inch screen?


I've got a 3K XPS 13 and I'd rather have had the 1080P in retrospect for better battery life and less scaling issues.

QHD I can kind of get at that size but 4K is overkill.
Edited by: "Minstadave" 7th May
JohnSmith3307/05/2020 11:54

I guess if you like worse battery life and odd scaling issues...


Not really bothered about battery life, as long as it goes for a few hours I don't need it to last longer. I nearly always have it plugged in.

As for scaling, I have had no issues with my SB2 and scaling when it's set to 200%.
Techgl07/05/2020 11:35

Almost Nvidia MX 350 levels with the APU


Interesting I had the faster 4800u just in touching distance of the slower MX250:


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Edited by: "Bertz99" 7th May
Bertz9907/05/2020 12:11

Interesting I had the faster 4800u just in touching distance of the slower …Interesting I had the faster 4800u just in touching distance of the slower MX250:[Image]


The Ryzen 2 APUs are very dependant on RAM setup for GPU performance. Dual vs single channel has a big effect. DDR4 vs LPDDR4X make a difference too.
Minstadave07/05/2020 12:37

The Ryzen 2 APUs are very dependant on RAM setup for GPU performance. Dual …The Ryzen 2 APUs are very dependant on RAM setup for GPU performance. Dual vs single channel has a big effect. DDR4 vs LPDDR4X make a difference too.



Yes if you share the main system memory rather than having dedicated memory then bandwidth is obviously going to be key - also assume you mean Zen 2 although same is seen in previous APU's.

I am not disputing that for an APU with low tdp it is impressive to be knocking on the door of the entry level discrete market.

I am making the point that the 4800u that is some 20% faster than the 4700u graphically speaking just touches the performance of the discrete mx250 which in turn is slower than the mx350 where as techgl is stating the 4700u is "almost mx350 levels"
Edited by: "Bertz99" 7th May
Nice bit of keep. Sorely tempted.
Bertz9907/05/2020 12:54

Yes if you share the main system memory rather than having dedicated …Yes if you share the main system memory rather than having dedicated memory then bandwidth is obviously going to be key - also assume you mean Zen 2 although same is seen in previous APU's. I am not disputing that for an APU with low tdp it is impressive to be knocking on the door of the entry level discrete market.I am making the point that the 4800u that is some 20% faster than the 4700u graphically speaking just touches the performance of the discrete mx250 which in turn is slower than the mx350 where as techgl is stating the 4700u is "almost mx350 levels"


The 4800U will get very close to MX350 levels with a quad channel LPDDR4X config:

forums.anandtech.com/thr…ate

Dual chanel DDR4 doesn't perform quite as well.
Edited by: "Minstadave" 7th May
Minstadave07/05/2020 13:02

The 4800U will get very close to MX350 levels with a quad channel LPDDR4X …The 4800U will get very close to MX350 levels with a quad channel LPDDR4X config:https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/renoir-r7-4800u-results-leaked-from-lenovo-yoga-slim-7-14are-review.2578105/?view=dateDual chanel DDR4 doesn't perform quite as well.


rogames early leaks on hidden hardware several months ago is a bit outdated tbh he was also more interested in showing the jump from the 4800u to the 4900hs and where the extra 20watts from 15 to 35 watts makes most impact.

There have been plenty of reviews since from more established resources which are more realistic than sensualist in their use cases. One benchmark the APU does really well at. Also touching discrete from embedded is not the first time this has happened and if really gaming it still is not going to be suitable.
Edited by: "Bertz99" 7th May
macsoul9907/05/2020 11:56

Lenovo yoga slim 7 out soon will be cheaper

I have been waiting for the lenovo and need a new laptop more than ever but been holding off for the new and processors.

Need to log into my work discount portal to see if it any cheaper through it.
Bertz9907/05/2020 13:19

rogames early leaks on hidden hardware several months ago is a bit …rogames early leaks on hidden hardware several months ago is a bit outdated tbh he was also more interested in showing the jump from the 4800u to the 4900hs and where the extra 20watts from 15 to 35 watts makes most impact.There have been plenty of reviews since from more established resources which are more realistic than sensualist in their use cases. One benchmark the APU does really well at. Also touching discrete from embedded is not the first time this has happened and if really gaming it still is not going to be suitable.


The Anandtech link references a notebookcheck review which are always very thorough.
Edited by: "Minstadave" 7th May
Bertz9907/05/2020 12:11

Interesting I had the faster 4800u just in touching distance of the slower …Interesting I had the faster 4800u just in touching distance of the slower MX250:[Image]


Yep my typo carry on
minority07/05/2020 13:37

I have been waiting for the lenovo and need a new laptop more than ever …I have been waiting for the lenovo and need a new laptop more than ever but been holding off for the new and processors.Need to log into my work discount portal to see if it any cheaper through it.


Should be out next week or so I read
Minstadave07/05/2020 13:39

The Anandtech link references a notebookcheck review which are always very …The Anandtech link references a notebookcheck review which are always very thorough.


Your link is to a forum on Anand tech from a speculative (that is the term Anand use) for rogames leak at the beginning of March.

Notebook reviews though has this interesting one from less than 2 weeks ago notebookcheck.net/3DM…tml

A notebook with a 4700u LPDDR4X and a discrete MX350 graphics card

As I said above, rogames leak shows the APU really excelling in one specific benchmark and is where the headlines that AMD smash everything with discrete their APU at 40% came from. Read the rest of the leak and what has come since and reality indicates it is just in touching distance - impressive nether the less.
Bertz9907/05/2020 14:00

Your link is to a forum on Anand tech from a speculative (that is the term …Your link is to a forum on Anand tech from a speculative (that is the term Anand use) for rogames leak at the beginning of March.Notebook reviews though has this interesting one from less than 2 weeks ago https://www.notebookcheck.net/3DMark-confirms-Ryzen-7-4700U-and-GeForce-MX350-combination-in-upcoming-ZenBook-14.461887.0.htmlA notebook with a 4700u LPDDR4X and a discrete MX350 graphics card As I said above, rogames leak shows the APU really excelling in one specific benchmark and is where the headlines that AMD smash everything with discrete their APU at 40% came from. Read the rest of the leak and what has come since and reality indicates it is just in touching distance - impressive nether the less.


I think you're looking at the wrong link. My link goes to a Anadtech post about a Yoga Slim 7 review from notebookcheck that they released early then pulled. It has multiple games benchmarked.
Minstadave07/05/2020 14:17

I think you're looking at the wrong link. My link goes to a Anadtech post …I think you're looking at the wrong link. My link goes to a Anadtech post about a Yoga Slim 7 review from notebookcheck that they released early then pulled. It has multiple games benchmarked.


tomshardware.com/uk/…250

20 days old in this case and still an engineering sample. Has ddr4 memory albeit bandwidth between Low Power DDR4X and DDR4 is not like for like as to how they are quoted.

There is also the question mark on going for a low power APU (like this one) and then ramping it up (including number of modules) seems the opposite of where this is aimed and marketed for - i.e. is that not what the HS APU's are aimed for!
Edited by: "Bertz99" 7th May
macbook air with i3 is better buy, cold from me.
rodman07/05/2020 14:44

macbook air with i3 is better buy, cold from me.


Depends what you want it for. This destroys all aspects of the MBA hardware
Edited by: "macsoul99" 7th May
is the webcam still sh*t? I have the 2018 model and it's useless...my first smartphone had a better camera than the 2018 edition of this 2in1.
any rumours on 2in1 with dedicated gpu in 13 or 14 sizes?
bit disapointing HP still havent go 16:10 and they only put the 300nit panel in the uk version while USA has access to a 1000nit panel which would be good if you are near sunlight/outdoors (in the near future) and they still keep the barrel charger when they have usb PD. could use that as another USB C.

bit lacking for this price HP nothing over the past envys except the new CPU which is good but HP have done nothing
Edited by: "Altirix" 7th May
rodman07/05/2020 14:44

macbook air with i3 is better buy, cold from me.


Benchmarks?
I bought an envy x360 in January. If you get one I strongly recommend checking the hinges are straight. Mine were very crooked and although they worked, if they were to fail HP would claim it was accidental damage and not covered. This seems to be a common problem with this type of HP hinge. Mine was 799 from John Lewis and it’s a great laptop with a nice solid feel.
quite tempted by this are there any reviews?
Edited by: "jrenshaw" 8th May
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Minstadave07/05/2020 12:02

I've got a 3K XPS 13 and I'd rather have had the 1080P in retrospect for …I've got a 3K XPS 13 and I'd rather have had the 1080P in retrospect for better battery life and less scaling issues.QHD I can kind of get at that size but 4K is overkill.


That was going to be my question, whether you get scaling niggles on on a high Res display. I find you get minor niggles on a 1080 13" displays especially with some older/legacy apps (ie Picasa for example)
peakbear21/05/2020 10:44

That was going to be my question, whether you get scaling niggles on on a …That was going to be my question, whether you get scaling niggles on on a high Res display. I find you get minor niggles on a 1080 13" displays especially with some older/legacy apps (ie Picasa for example)


I don't understand the scaling issues. I have a '3k' Surface Book 2 (3000 x 2000 resolution).

It is automatically set to 200% scaling and have experienced not one issue.
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