21 ELEMENT UHF OUTDOOR AERIAL (NEW) £7.98 @ArgosEbay
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21 ELEMENT UHF OUTDOOR AERIAL (NEW) £7.98 @ArgosEbay

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Found 13th Dec 2011
This offer is back - Brand New - 21 ELEMENT UHF OUTDOOR AERIAL. ideal for receiving Freeview digital signals

Amplifies up to any dB.
Digital and analogue.
Works with Freeview.
Requires F connector, included.

48 Comments

will this work with the switch over?

Original Poster

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alanlukeb1

will this work with the switch over?



Yes, as long as you have it in the right position for best signal and you live in a decent signal area

hot price, but jus need someone to fit cheaply.

"Amplifies up to any dB. "

wow, there go the laws of physics.

Presumably this is a wideband aerial so should be OK for most areas post DSO, provided there's enough signal level in your area. I'd be happy using one of these in a loft, but if I was paying someone to install one outside I'd buy a known brand - this doesn't look like the kind of aerial that will stand up to hosting pigeon orgies, and bits will probably fall off as the cheapo plastic turns brittle under prolonged exposure to UV.

bazzaric

Yes, as long as you have it in the right position for best signal and you … Yes, as long as you have it in the right position for best signal and you live in a decent signal area


Thanks
Edited by: "alanlukeb1" 13th Dec 2011

will this work with the switch over? yes should be fine its a digital aerial

Sloth/Mod

Can't go wrong at that price...........unless you point it in the wrong direction that is

I have a high gain ariel in my attic, will it be similar to this one?

bazzaric

Yes, as long as you have it in the right position for best signal and you … Yes, as long as you have it in the right position for best signal and you live in a decent signal area



So its not for everyone then? Whats classed as a decent signal area?
Edited by: "mymymy" 13th Dec 2011

Syzable

Can't go wrong at that price...........unless you point it in the wrong … Can't go wrong at that price...........unless you point it in the wrong direction that is



I have a good place to stick it.

Banned

Will this get stain's out of my jumper at low temperatures?

spamcan61

"Amplifies up to any dB. "wow, there go the laws of physics.Presumably … "Amplifies up to any dB. "wow, there go the laws of physics.Presumably this is a wideband aerial so should be OK for most areas post DSO, provided there's enough signal level in your area. I'd be happy using one of these in a loft, but if I was paying someone to install one outside I'd buy a known brand - this doesn't look like the kind of aerial that will stand up to hosting pigeon orgies, and bits will probably fall off as the cheapo plastic turns brittle under prolonged exposure to UV.


Mine is in the loft, works great on three TVs, £5.99 instore.

Ordered thanks

oddballjamie

Mine is in the loft, works great on three TVs, £5.99 instore.



It's a cheap gamble for sure, I'm not sure what the average charge for a 'pro' to fit a roof mounted aerial is these days but I wouldn't expect much change out of a hundred quid. Given that the signal power is being turned up tenfold after DSO in most areas many people that previously needed roof aerials will probably get away with loft ones.

spamcan61

It's a cheap gamble for sure, I'm not sure what the average charge for a … It's a cheap gamble for sure, I'm not sure what the average charge for a 'pro' to fit a roof mounted aerial is these days but I wouldn't expect much change out of a hundred quid. Given that the signal power is being turned up tenfold after DSO in most areas many people that previously needed roof aerials will probably get away with loft ones.


My parents paid over a hundred for a loft one fitted with a splitter.
Mine came to less than £20 for everything.

Tempted to replace mine myself whilst the house is cloaked in scaffolding... the current one is a bit average and prob 15+ years old. Presumably this will at least be 'better'... seems cheap for a fiver mind!

Syzable

Can't go wrong at that price...........unless you point it in the wrong … Can't go wrong at that price...........unless you point it in the wrong direction that is


This is a 5-Bay X beam ariel designed to look impressive but actually all that metal work has little effect on it's performance. It's hopelessly non-directional so will probably work fine whatever direction it is pointed.

s1m0nc

Tempted to replace mine myself whilst the house is cloaked in … Tempted to replace mine myself whilst the house is cloaked in scaffolding... the current one is a bit average and prob 15+ years old. Presumably this will at least be 'better'... seems cheap for a fiver mind!



Maybe, maybe not; I doubt if this aerial is top quality at this price.

nick1austin

This is a 5-Bay X beam ariel designed to look impressive but actually all … This is a 5-Bay X beam ariel designed to look impressive but actually all that metal work has little effect on it's performance. It's hopelessly non-directional so will probably work fine whatever direction it is pointed.


No it won't, I used an app to line it up but I only had to move it a few degrees and lost the signal.

I bought one of these last time around, it's worked fine for me (receiving all HD and SD channels as far as I know) and it's only mounted about 10ft off the ground (on a shaky caravan-type portable mast, only roughly aligned too). Very good for the price in my opinion!

Other sellers of the same bits of bent foil on ebay (item number 270857987761 for example) are claiming a front to back ratio of 24dB, if that is to believed then it's fairly directional..

spamcan61

but if I was paying someone to install one outside I'd buy a known brand.



As I know nothing about good TV aerials and need to put 2 new ones up would you care to say what counts as a decent brand?
AFAIK I live in an area which is not the best for digital (in Northern Ireland) but wee're hoping they are telling the truth that things will improve once the switch-over starts to happen (next year?)

Switchover has happened here (West Mids) - can't say I've noticed any difference to the signal - still OK but with occasional dropouts as previously.

Any advice anyone?

3 weeks ago this was posted and got to 26 degrees with bad reviews.

Today its hot as the sun. Whats happening today?

OLD post

Could it be used in the loft?

JoeBoy88

3 weeks ago this was posted and got to 26 degrees with bad reviews.Today … 3 weeks ago this was posted and got to 26 degrees with bad reviews.Today its hot as the sun. Whats happening today?OLD post



Voting is meaningless on this site. Always has been.

B84

Could it be used in the loft?



Yes

Gixxerman001

As I know nothing about good TV aerials and need to put 2 new ones up … As I know nothing about good TV aerials and need to put 2 new ones up would you care to say what counts as a decent brand?AFAIK I live in an area which is not the best for digital (in Northern Ireland) but wee're hoping they are telling the truth that things will improve once the switch-over starts to happen (next year?)



I'm not an aerial installer but I'd be looking at the likes of Blake or Triax.

nick1austin

This is a 5-Bay X beam ariel designed to look impressive but actually all … This is a 5-Bay X beam ariel designed to look impressive but actually all that metal work has little effect on it's performance.

Exactly - in my counting this is a 7 element antenna, and the elements are much too close together to be effective. I wonder what the gain is - I would not expect much more than 10db - and that also means it is not very directional.

So don't use this in a difficult place, or when it is expensive to replace it. You get what you pay for.
spamcan61

Other sellers of the same bits of bent foil on ebay (item number … Other sellers of the same bits of bent foil on ebay (item number 270857987761 for example) are claiming a front to back ratio of 24dB, if that is to believed then it's fairly directional..

Front to back ratio is not the same as gain. Actually for a configuration with a reflector 24dB is pretty poor - it may indicate that the reflector is too small, or the wire too thin.

Edited by: "MrPuddington" 13th Dec 2011

Besford

Switchover has happened here (West Mids) - can't say I've noticed any … Switchover has happened here (West Mids) - can't say I've noticed any difference to the signal - still OK but with occasional dropouts as previously.Any advice anyone?



If you stick your postcode in here, ticking the 'I am in the aerial insallation trade' box:-

digitaluk.co.uk/pos…er/

what does it show under 'coverage predictions' ?

If it's mostly green bars in the table then that's good, if it's red it isn't.

Do you have more than one TV where the picture is suffering dropouts?

Is the aerial in the loft or on the roof?

Do all channels suffer dropouts are just some?

Can't be more specific without knowing what's between your aerial and TV(s)

So its not for everyone then? Whats classed as a decent signal area?


1.Go to digitaluk.co.uk/pos…er/ and enter postcode/house number
2.You will have to press on "Find out more" to see details. If it says you don't have a good signal area, you should propably buy a amplified antenna.
3.There are antennas that have specified in the technical description that they are suitable (or not) for weak signal areas. B&Q sells one of this for £19 (it is amplified and bigger then this one).
4.Check if you can return the antenna in case is not working, although putting it back in the original state it's not easy or impossible.

MrPuddington

Front to back ratio is not the same as gain. Actually for a … Front to back ratio is not the same as gain. Actually for a configuration with a reflector 24dB is pretty poor - it may indicate that the reflector is too small, or the wire too thin.



Well whichever way you look at it, a front to back ratio of 24dB means the aerial has significant directivity - or 'gain' if we were talking dBi or dBd - and the comment "It's hopelessly non-directional so will probably work fine whatever direction it is pointed." which I was replying to is way off beam..l.

Edited by: "spamcan61" 13th Dec 2011

MrPuddington

So don't use this in a difficult place, or when it is expensive to … So don't use this in a difficult place, or when it is expensive to replace it. You get what you pay for.



100% agree on that.

Since DSO on Merseyside the signals have become that strong that we can now pick up both the Granada and Wales regions on the same indoor aerial without having to move the aerial or point it anywhere specific. Both regions show up on the EPG simultaneously without any picture or sound break up.

theblind

will this work with the switch over? yes should be fine its a digital … will this work with the switch over? yes should be fine its a digital aerial



There is no such thing as a "digtial aerial".

All aerials can pick up analogue and digtial.

Makes me laugh when I see TV vans driving round with writing on the side saying "Digital Aerials".

If you have dropouts, need a better aerial spend a bit of time looking at the predictor site and read up about the best aerial for you (places like satcure.co.uk & aerialsandtv.com are good but not necessarily the cheapest places to buy). The aerials you find in Argos, B&Q, Screwfix are cheap, yes, they may work in cities but with grouped transmitters, or fringe areas find out what's the best aerial for you.
I second the recommendation for Blake aerials.

Edited by: "ashleypride" 13th Dec 2011

Lol, that people still think there is such a thing as "a digital aerial"?

pig_dog

Lol, that people still think there is such a thing as "a digital aerial"?



I've given up arguing about that one ;-). Mind you I describe my band II aerial as an 'FM aerial' which is no better really.

spamcan61

I'm not an aerial installer but I'd be looking at the likes of Blake or … I'm not an aerial installer but I'd be looking at the likes of Blake or Triax.



It's nice to see that some people appreciate a decent aerial!

While this cheapy will probably work quite well for many people, it may not be much good for others... it's all dependant on your location vs transmitter distance, local conditions, etc etc.

In the loft it'll last for ever, outside it might fall to bits with a gust of wind...... just look at many of the cheapo aerials that riggers love to fit, the elements fall off or come lose and clatter in the wind causing delightful digital glitches.

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