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2.5" External Hard Drive Enclosure & Internal docking bay for desktop PC - £18.79 Delivered @ Crucial.Com (7% Quidco)
2.5" External Hard Drive Enclosure & Internal docking bay for desktop PC - £18.79 Delivered @ Crucial.Com (7% Quidco)

2.5" External Hard Drive Enclosure & Internal docking bay for desktop PC - £18.79 Delivered @ Crucial.Com (7% Quidco)

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Looks like a great idea. Neat and tidy. An external HDD enclosure for 2.5" laptop hard drives (sata) & a docking bay allowing you to slot the external drive directly into the front of your desktop pc. The docking bay fits into a standard 3.5" floppy drive bay. If you haven't got a spare 3.5" bay, it also comes with a 5.25" adapter so you can use a spare cd/dvd drive bay instead.

Kit contents:

* 2.5-inch USB 2.0 external enclosure
* 3.5-inch hot swappable SATA drive bay
* 5.25-inch bracket
* USB cable
* SATA cable
* Power cable adapter
* Screw packets
* Protective carrying case
* User guide

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Original Poster

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Handy bit of kit - thanks

Shima

Looks good to me, gone for one! Thanks.

where will it get power from when connected to the laptop via usb?

there does not seem to be a power supply with it!

Original Poster

scanner;2841736

where will it get power from when connected to the laptop via usb?there … where will it get power from when connected to the laptop via usb?there does not seem to be a power supply with it!



Yep, usb powered. The enclosure is for 2.5" laptop hard drives, not desktop pc hdd's.

HP Do something very similar in their towers. Very useful and far better than having another piece of kit laying on the desk.

Simply slide in and it's powered up etc. Then you can also use as an external drive too.

very smart and a great idea!

Hmm, not sure on this, cold?

A few months ago I bought: scan.co.uk/Pro…609 (delivery is not included, so this comes out as £7 more - quidco).

The IcyBox one comes with all the kit this does, and also a USB to power adapter, so you can power your hard disk enclosure from USB and connect it to your laptop at full speed using an eSATA Expresscard (c2500 Mbps as opposed to 480 max Mbps using USB 2). You can also connect the drive via USB if you don't have an eSATA card. This also allows you to boot your laptop from the external drive (Linux and Windows - not Mac OS).

£18 is too cheap to get free delivery with Scan... and not 7% quidco - but do agree with eSATA etc...

Looks good, but it doesn't come with a drive does it?

So for £18 you get the hassle of installing the thing and buying a drive to go in it. But you get the drive inside your pc rather than on the desk.

Personally I'd just get a usb one and save myself £18 and put up with it on the desk.

gary_rip;2841902

£18 is too cheap to get free delivery with Scan... and not 7% quidco - … £18 is too cheap to get free delivery with Scan... and not 7% quidco - but do agree with eSATA etc...



Ah didn't notice the quidco. They gave me free delivery on it (and I just checked, and they do say £20 min, so not sure how that happened...) I've updated my post now.

Benjimoron;2841918

Looks good, but it doesn't come with a drive does it?So for £18 you get … Looks good, but it doesn't come with a drive does it?So for £18 you get the hassle of installing the thing and buying a drive to go in it. But you get the drive inside your pc rather than on the desk. Personally I'd just get a usb one and save myself £18 and put up with it on the desk.



You haven't quite clicked what this is have you? It's not the USB 2.0 interface that is the best feature, it is the faster sata connection when it is installed in the bay.

It works as a USB device when you take it out and use it on any other machine, but it will load up a lot faster and easier using the docking station, as well as look better and be tidier. USB 2.0 drives are not exactly quick if you are backing up many Gigabytes of data, but this will at least be laptop drive speed, ie. not quite as fast as a desktop drive, but not too bad!

As an example, it's ideal for hosting your Documents folder & taking your data with you when you leave for security reasons in case someone nicks the machine or as a backup of it at the very least so when the place burns down, you still have a copy off site. Then you don't need to have the bay handy to get at your data, as any usb port will do, although of course it won't be very quick.

Two of these (eg. one at home, one at work) would be even better of course ;-)

nihcaj;2842029

You haven't quite clicked what this is have you? It's not the USB 2.0 … You haven't quite clicked what this is have you? It's not the USB 2.0 interface that is the best feature, it is the faster sata connection when it is installed in the bay.It works as a USB device when you take it out and use it on any other machine, but it will load up a lot faster and easier using the docking station, as well as look better and be tidier. USB 2.0 drives are not exactly quick if you are backing up many Gigabytes of data, but this will at least be laptop drive speed, ie. not quite as fast as a desktop drive, but not too bad! As an example, it's ideal for hosting your Documents folder & taking your data with you when you leave for security reasons in case someone nicks the machine or as a backup of it at the very least so when the place burns down, you still have a copy off site. Then you don't need to have the bay handy to get at your data, as any usb port will do, although of course it won't be very quick.Two of these (eg. one at home, one at work) would be even better of course ;-)



Ok, so maybe it's a little faster (I have several usb hard drives and have never noticed any of them being slow). The rest of my argument still stands.

Are extra bays availible for this?

does anyone know if it will get my by the fat32 limit? I have an external hd for putting films on my ps3 but it wont copy bluray files over via usb coz fat32 maxxs out at 4gig....will this still be treated as a usb device when docked or will it be treated as a proper sata drive?

I don't know if anyone has noticed that it is an SSD accessory; means you need to have a solid state hard drive.

kapil_kalra2001;2842562

I don't know if anyone has noticed that it is an SSD accessory; means you … I don't know if anyone has noticed that it is an SSD accessory; means you need to have a solid state hard drive.


and 2.5" Sata HD

defard;2842412

does anyone know if it will get my by the fat32 limit? I have an external … does anyone know if it will get my by the fat32 limit? I have an external hd for putting films on my ps3 but it wont copy bluray files over via usb coz fat32 maxxs out at 4gig....will this still be treated as a usb device when docked or will it be treated as a proper sata drive?



No matter what way or what drive you plug in if its formated as fat32 the 4gig limit will be there i dont have a PS3 but it seems weird that that would want to format a drive to fat32 a lot of bought usb drives are formated in FAT32 for compatibility with other machines and older O/S's i would of thought the PS3 would take NTFS being as it supports next gen games and media i would read up or google it.

If it will take NTFS you can use the convert comand from a command promp to convert it to NTFS without data loss but you wont be able to convert it back to FAT from NTFS hope this helps you.

Convert c: /FS:NTFS
Where C: is a name of the drive you want to convert.

it seems that the PS3 doesnt support ntfs drives plugged into its USB i dout that would be the case if you plug the usb drive in your pc and stream the media across to it via a wired network

polly69;2842863

it seems that the PS3 doesnt support ntfs drives plugged into its USB i … it seems that the PS3 doesnt support ntfs drives plugged into its USB i dout that would be the case if you plug the usb drive in your pc and stream the media across to it via a wired network




From my experiences the PS3 didn't support NTFS or FAT 32. I plugged in my external Seagate drive, nothing happened. I then plugged in my memory stick nothing happened again.

Just shows how much the PS3 sucks, my 360 picked them both up instantly.

kapil_kalra2001;2842562

I don't know if anyone has noticed that it is an SSD accessory; means you … I don't know if anyone has noticed that it is an SSD accessory; means you need to have a solid state hard drive.



woaah solid state drives! But just have a look how much they cost.

So this can only be used with SSD's??

If that's the case then on the same site the 64gb costs £563 and the 32gb £312 - ouch!!

If it was normal HD's then hot but because of cost have to vote cold....

bob_nugget;2841864

Hmm, not sure on this, cold?A few months ago I bought: … Hmm, not sure on this, cold?A few months ago I bought: http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=603609 (delivery is not included, so this comes out as £7 more - quidco).The IcyBox one comes with all the kit this does, and also a USB to power adapter, so you can power your hard disk enclosure from USB and connect it to your laptop at full speed using an eSATA Expresscard (c2500 Mbps as opposed to 480 max Mbps using USB 2). You can also connect the drive via USB if you don't have an eSATA card. This also allows you to boot your laptop from the external drive (Linux and Windows - not Mac OS).



This one looks a better bet, this takes laptop SATA drives right?

The Crucial one can take normal 2.5 inch SATA drives

Our SK01 external drive kit is compatible with your old 2.5" hard drive, … Our SK01 external drive kit is compatible with your old 2.5" hard drive, too. That means if you're ready for an SSD upgrade in your notebook, you can use your mechanical hard drive in your PC. You just need the kit!

Benjimoron;2842225

Ok, so maybe it's a little faster (I have several usb hard drives and … Ok, so maybe it's a little faster (I have several usb hard drives and have never noticed any of them being slow). The rest of my argument still stands.



If 3Gb/s is a little faster than 480Mb/s then 450 mph is just a little faster than 70mph!

Banned

*sigh*

Neither the Xbox 360 nor the PS3 will read NTFS (only Microsoft know why they didn't incorporate it into their console). Both should be capable of reading any common variation of FAT (12/16/32). I have heard that the 360 supports HFS+ (filesystem) but I've never tried it, someone else can comment on that side of things (no 4GB limit).

The PS3 has no internal filesystem size limit (worth mentioning) so you're free to transfer large files (> 4GB) to the PS3 over the network connection (be it wired or wireless, though wired would be far better).

beelzebub;2843667

I have heard that the 360 supports HFS+ (filesystem) but I've never … I have heard that the 360 supports HFS+ (filesystem) but I've never tried it, someone else can comment on that side of things (no 4GB limit).



So Microsoft apparently supports Apple's FS but not its own. Say it isn't so! :shock:

If it is true, then bung a copy of ]Macdrive on your PC, format your removable drive as HFS+ and you will be able to copy across >4GB files onto your Xbox.

Oh, the irony.

beelzebub;2843667

*sigh*Neither the Xbox 360 nor the PS3 will read NTFS (only Microsoft … *sigh*Neither the Xbox 360 nor the PS3 will read NTFS (only Microsoft know why they didn't incorporate it into their console). Both should be capable of reading any common variation of FAT (12/16/32). I have heard that the 360 supports HFS+ (filesystem) but I've never tried it, someone else can comment on that side of things (no 4GB limit).The PS3 has no internal filesystem size limit (worth mentioning) so you're free to transfer large files (> 4GB) to the PS3 over the network connection (be it wired or wireless, though wired would be far better).



Well I know with the Xbox 360 in order to get it to read an external drive you must make the PRIMARY partition FAT32. There is no limit in terms of space except if there is a FAT32 partition limit.

As long as the very first partition is FAT32 it will read the drive as for the PS3 throw it in the bin...:-D

Banned

psd99;2843894

(1) Well I know with the Xbox 360 in order to get it to read an external … (1) Well I know with the Xbox 360 in order to get it to read an external drive you must make the PRIMARY partition FAT32. (2) There is no limit in terms of space except if there is a FAT32 partition limit.As long as the very first partition is FAT32 it will read the drive (3) as for the PS3 throw it in the bin...:-D



(1) No comment, I only ever use USB sticks (no partitions) with the 360 :).

(2) FAT32 has a 4GB file size limit, there is no workaround as it's by design.

(3) Never!! (I quite like turning on my PS3 and watching whatever 720p `rip` I want from the internal HD without having to mess around with external drives :).

nihcaj;2843599

If 3Gb/s is a little faster than 480Mb/s then 450 mph is just a little … If 3Gb/s is a little faster than 480Mb/s then 450 mph is just a little faster than 70mph!



Does the drive work that fast though?

Benjimoron;2844831

Does the drive work that fast though?



No, but USB 2.0 is tediously slow, compared to the sSATA speed, and while it won't matter very much for 1Gb, it will for 150!

When using the drive bay you'll get sata speeds. You might even be able to connect the sata cannection on the back of the drive to an eSata port.

We used older versions of these with 3.5 drives when I was in college. A classmate left his behind one day and we found it before someone could steal it. You could say we looked after it for him....
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FAT32 does NOT have a limit of 4gb, Windows limits drives of greater that 4GB to be NTFS. You can download make little apps that will allow you to format drives well beyond the 4Gb limit. I USB drive of 320gb formatted as fat32 and my PS3 happily talks to it.

Do the Fijustu 2.5" fit into these? Has anyone used these on them? Just that the spare 2.5" fujistu I have is just slightly too thick to fit any of the standard enclosures out there.

Hot deal all the same

Cannot order as it's apparently out of stock...

Also, while the IcyBox enclosure offers benefits to those with eSATA (which isn't many in the real world), it's "cheaper feeling" and also apparently requires you to use 2 USB sockets if you wish to use it with USB (one for power one for data!) which is hardly useful if you plan on using it with a laptop that will have limited ports as it is.
In general public use, if you're using it with the 3.5" enclosure then you'll get your high speeds, but if you're not using the drive bay, chances are you're plugging it into a laptop (or some media device) which is highly unlikely to have eSATA.

Benefits over the crucial kit are counterbalanced by the problems it has.

nihcaj;2844862

No, but USB 2.0 is tediously slow, compared to the sSATA speed, and while … No, but USB 2.0 is tediously slow, compared to the sSATA speed, and while it won't matter very much for 1Gb, it will for 150!



How fast will the drive actually work then?

Benjimoron;2847410

How fast will the drive actually work then?



It depends on the drive.

On a review of the Icy Box set they tested a WD drive and with SATA/eSATA they got nearly 40Mb/s sustained and nearly 100Mb/s burst rates.

With USB 2 the sustained rates were pretty much the same at up to 40Mb/s but the burst was also around 40Mb/s.

So the argument about transferring large files doesn't hold up, and the rates will be more or less the same...but for small files or seeking, eSATA has the obvious edge.
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