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26" Havoc Bike - V-Brakes - FREE HELMET @ Toys R Us - £69.99
26" Havoc Bike - V-Brakes - FREE HELMET @ Toys R Us - £69.99

26" Havoc Bike - V-Brakes - FREE HELMET @ Toys R Us - £69.99

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Unbelievable value adult bike in jet black featuring 12 speed twist-shift index gears, 'V' system brakes and alloy wheel rims.

Be stylish and safe and accessorise your bike with one of our cycle helmets.

* Jet black Steel hardtail frame
* Black sabre saddle
* Black steel riser handlebar
* Chrome plated hubs
* Handlebar bell
* Black rubber grips
* Complies to BS 6102

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Its not the best bike in the world but not bad for a cheapo bike, beats tesco's bike range!!
Please dont bid cold due to it not being a branded bike etc... you get what you pay for and not everyone has £1000's to spend!!
You can probably get suspension bikes for this price but for £69.99 you know the suspension will only fail and rust!

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Original Poster

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Why has nobody posted that you have to spent £3,000 on a bike to get one that's not a death trap?

someone always posts that cheap bikes are no good - I think it must be in the forum rules

Original Poster

haha yeah which is why i posted the above comment about cold votes.
Its a nice looking cheap "throw away" bike which will last the summer and not bankrupt you if stolen!
I have just bought a Carrera Vulcan disc last week from halfords

Ladies version same price here:

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Also comes with a free helmet to help you look like a fool (ride safely)

Original Poster

COLD VOTES????
if you voted cold....i found a nice bike on ebay ([SIZE=2]Pinarello Prince Super Record 11)
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ONLY £7868
or is that a bad deal too? lol

adamck;5474716

COLD VOTES????if you voted cold....i found a nice bike on ebay … COLD VOTES????if you voted cold....i found a nice bike on ebay ([SIZE=2]Pinarello Prince Super Record 11) [/SIZE] ONLY £7868 or is that a bad deal too? lol



Not a bad price, Does it come with a comfy seat option?

Original Poster

The seat is solid carbon fibre! Mmmmmm comfy
I believe botox injections in your ar$e would be cheaper than the comfy replacement seat!!

Is the Pinarello available from Toys'r'us? If you pay anything less than this, you're riding a death trap worth paying the little extra of £7800

To me your deal is ideal as a cheap bike. If you aren't taking the thing off roading then it doesn't have to be indestructible. Also far better with a rigid frame as cheap suspension just wastes your energy bouncing up and down rather than moving forward. In fact, cheap suspension bikes are no good for anything as they aren't strong enough for the off roading they are designed for.

Original Poster

if i lied and told you this bike was the best of the best and it was £7798.01 off the RRP would the deal go hotter???

adamck;5475538

if i lied and told you this bike was the best of the best and it was … if i lied and told you this bike was the best of the best and it was £7798.01 off the RRP would the deal go hotter???



Nah - I don't think so - personally I'd need to see it in the flesh to decide if it was a good deal or not; however as you've already said it's 100% better than a cheap bike with suspension so you can have my HOT vote.
I always feel sorry seeing little kids lugging round 10kg of useless springs and shocks just because it's the fashion. Presumably parents buy them for their kids to discourage them from ever getting any exercise or leaving the house?

I hate twist-shift index gears!

Try cycling uphill with them you will accidentally change gear just when you don't want to, just my 2 cents

SpoonyBoy;5474752

Not a bad price, Does it come with a comfy seat option?


Its the pedals Im more worried about...

localshop;5474445

Why has nobody posted that you have to spent £3,000 on a bike to get one … Why has nobody posted that you have to spent £3,000 on a bike to get one that's not a death trap?someone always posts that cheap bikes are no good - I think it must be in the forum rules



OK someone has to go there :thumbsup:

£65 (carefully spent) on a decent second hand bike will give more bang for your buck.

Last year I picked up a Specialized Hardrock for £60 - It was technically a 3 year old bike but appeared to have never been used - (Bike had no grime anywhere, the bobbles were still on its original tyres and the cassette was shiney new).

A few months later I also picked up a Specialized "Hotrock A1FS" for £40 for my daughter. Its normally 300 quids worth of kids bike (who spends that much on a kids bike!!!). It was 2 years old & was dusty, dirty and had flat tyres when I saw it in the sellers garage but because its a quality bit of kit after a few hours elbow grease it too looked like new.

It may take a bit of homework & legwork but if you buy carefully youll end up with a bike which is looks better, is safer, a better ride and will last you longer than buying new / cheap.

Banned

If you are going to use it for work, get some mudguards. Otherwise you will have a brown stripe up the back of your trousers.

If you and the bike lasts that long, of course. :-D

For a cheap "throw-away bike". This isn't a bad deal.

I agree with Tomb above that with a bit of legwork, you can get really good quality bikes 2nd hand for the same money but I appreciate that alot of people wouldn't be able to tell a decent bike from a rubbish bike.

In that case, a bike like this that with rigid forks and frame is better than the dual suspension junks you see for the same price.

Anyways, anything that can bring cycling to the masses is a good thing but just be aware of the bikes limitations and you will be fine.

This bike will be factory packed so I would recommend taking it to a local bike shop to get it set up and safety checked before using.

Have fun! Voted hot.

Toybhoy;5763918

I appreciate that alot of people wouldn't be able to tell a decent bike … I appreciate that alot of people wouldn't be able to tell a decent bike from a rubbish bike.



That would be me. Could someone recommend a site that gives basic info on things to look out for, a kind of 'Buying a decent 2nd hand bike for dummies' ??

Steel frame = heavy

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rbanksy;5764424

Steel frame = heavy



= hard work to ride = slow. Which is probably a good thing for people with little cycling experience.

NobbyB;5764493

= hard work to ride = slow. Which is probably a good thing for people … = hard work to ride = slow. Which is probably a good thing for people with little cycling experience.



Maybe on cheap bikes like this but good quality steel frames are amazing and very much in demand.

Reynolds 531 frames are generally good.

0762;5764258

That would be me. Could someone recommend a site that gives basic info on … That would be me. Could someone recommend a site that gives basic info on things to look out for, a kind of 'Buying a decent 2nd hand bike for dummies' ??



Try the Beginners forum on Bikemagic.com: ]Link

The more of these cheap bike thread comments I read the more I realise that Lycra Louts really are weird people with a chip on their shoulder, a need to brag about how stupid they are with their money and no sense of humour at all!

If you're one of those - THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR YOU!

Hot (just to annoy them)!

Besford;5766172

The more of these cheap bike thread comments I read the more I realise … The more of these cheap bike thread comments I read the more I realise that Lycra Louts really are weird people with a chip on their shoulder, a need to brag about how stupid they are with their money and no sense of humour at all!If you're one of those - THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR YOU!Hot (just to annoy them)!



No, it just highlights your limited knowledge and ignorance.

I'm not a "lycra lout" and I wouldn't dismiss their advice especially on a field that they are perhaps experts in and which I may not have a clue in.

Cheap goods from China and the environmental impact .... now that's a debate. The Tesco clothing advert where you just throw the clothes away when they get dirty ...... etc

Toybhoy;5766304

No, it just highlights your limited knowledge and ignorance.I'm not a … No, it just highlights your limited knowledge and ignorance.I'm not a "lycra lout" and I wouldn't dismiss their advice especially on a field that they are perhaps experts in and which I may not have a clue in.


Their only advice will be to spend £1000 - as long as that doesn't mean your bike is better than theirs.

I agree that good, informed and impartial advice would be useful but good luck if you can pick out any on here! I have no doubt they have much knowledge but whether or not they can bring themselves to offer it objectively on a £50 bike is another matter.

What is undoubtedly true on any bike at any price is that it needs to be set up so everything is working properly. Not difficult but anyone who isn't confident with a spanner probably should avoid a self assembly bike, but same goes for a second hand one too.

adamck;5474716

COLD VOTES????if you voted cold....i found a nice bike on ebay … COLD VOTES????if you voted cold....i found a nice bike on ebay ([SIZE=2]Pinarello Prince Super Record 11) [/SIZE] ONLY £7868 or is that a bad deal too? lol


Would save weight if they didn't put 'Lightweight' on the wheels!
Where's the engine?

Besford;5768251

Their only advice will be to spend £1000 - as long as that doesn't mean … Their only advice will be to spend £1000 - as long as that doesn't mean your bike is better than theirs.



I think you mean AT LEAST £1000.

Wouldn't do to be seen on a cheap bike. :whistling:

Please dont bid cold due to it not being a branded bike etc



No, cold because it's a heavy piece of badly specified junk that - and here's the point - is unpleasant to ride. Buy it, ride it once or twice, put it away and forget about it.

Having said that, this is definitely a good buy for anyone that isn't serious about biking and just feels the urge to own one, plenty of people dive in at the expensive end and sell unused machinery for a fraction of what they paid for it. If, on the other hand, you decide you like biking, you will upgrade.

So I've talked myself round, it's a hot deal for the non-biker and since they're in the majority, they win! Hot!

spionkop;5772696

No, cold because it's a heavy piece of badly specified junk that - and … No, cold because it's a heavy piece of badly specified junk that - and here's the point - is unpleasant to ride. Buy it, ride it once or twice, put it away and forget about it. Having said that, this is definitely a good buy for anyone that isn't serious about biking and just feels the urge to own one, plenty of people dive in at the expensive end and sell unused machinery for a fraction of what they paid for it. If, on the other hand, you decide you like biking, you will upgrade.So I've talked myself round, it's a hot deal for the non-biker and since they're in the majority, they win! Hot!


Hooray - a 'biker' who has understood what this is about!

Tomb;5485655

OK someone has to go there :thumbsup:£65 (carefully spent) on a decent … OK someone has to go there :thumbsup:£65 (carefully spent) on a decent second hand bike will give more bang for your buck.Last year I picked up a Specialized Hardrock for £60 - It was technically a 3 year old bike but appeared to have never been used - (Bike had no grime anywhere, the bobbles were still on its original tyres and the cassette was shiney new).A few months later I also picked up a Specialized "Hotrock A1FS" for £40 for my daughter. Its normally 300 quids worth of kids bike (who spends that much on a kids bike!!!). It was 2 years old & was dusty, dirty and had flat tyres when I saw it in the sellers garage but because its a quality bit of kit after a few hours elbow grease it too looked like new.It may take a bit of homework & legwork but if you buy carefully youll end up with a bike which is looks better, is safer, a better ride and will last you longer than buying new / cheap.



Hi,

I agree with you that carefully spending £60 on a used bike will result in a better deal.
Can you suggest any good places to buy used bikes at?

Cheers
TG

Most decent independent bike shops will take 2nd hand bikes as trade-ins against new ones. These trade-ins will then usually go through the workshop to be checked for safety, have basic repairs carried out and then the bike will be adjusted up to good working order and put out for sale.

What is often misunderstood is that where you buy is more important that what you buy.

A proper bike shop will help you get the bike that meets your needs in terms of use and size This applies to new and used bikes. Additionally, any shop worth your business will let you test ride it and will help you set it up for your individual needs (accessories, or tweaks to the riding position, for example).

A bike in a box from Tesco, Asda or Toys R Us will not have been sized for you, you won't have test ridden it and it won't be assembled for you. Chances are the display one is misassembled (this is the case for most I've seen - many actually in a dangerous state) so even the 'reference' is incorrect for many buyers.

Irrespective of the price, an incorrectly sized or badly/dangerously set up bike will be horrible to ride.
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