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27", 8-Bit VA (like IPS), 1920x1080, LED TFT Monitor, BenQ GW2760HM £147.80 @ Micom
27", 8-Bit VA (like IPS), 1920x1080, LED TFT Monitor, BenQ GW2760HM £147.80 @ Micom

27", 8-Bit VA (like IPS), 1920x1080, LED TFT Monitor, BenQ GW2760HM £147.80 @ Micom

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I've posted the slightly older model of this in the past, I reckon it's a great option, and now this improved version has come down in price, under the old model, woot!

It's a VA panel - not the same as IPS, but another display technology - some prefer VA, some prefer IPS, very few prefer TN. Point is, it's often overlooked when people go "TN sucks, must buy IPS!". You get good responsiveness, plus nice deep blacks and edge to edge accurate colours - no shadowing when you move your head around. Both VA and IPS give a superior picture to TN, though TN is still king of response time.

27" 8-Bit VA Panel, LED Backlit
1920x1080 (Full HD) resolution
Integrated speakers
4ms GTG response time
HDMI, DVI and VGA Inputs
Flicker Free Backlight (improvement over old 2750 model)

More reading:
Expired thread on the older model, discussion on the VA panel vs IPS etc:
hotukdeals.com/tag/dea…684

BenQ Description page:
benq.com/pro…hm/

Two other retailers with it under 150 delivered:
box.co.uk/Ben…tml
ballicom.co.uk/9hl…tml

16 Comments

isnt the benq gl2450hm cheaper and better >.>

uchihasilver

isnt the benq gl2450hm cheaper and better >.>



And 3 inches less wide...? (...queue that's what she said)
Edited by: "thedixon" 24th Jul 2014

sadly no good for gaming unless you love motion blur and wanna vomit

Edge to edge accurate colours - except in the centre as dark shades tend to blend together when viewed head on. It's no more of a problem then TN's top to bottom gradient but if you are picky it's worth being aware of.

uchihasilver

isnt the benq gl2450hm cheaper and better >.>



3 inches less, tn and 6bit .. yummmy !

When you say "like IPS"...what do you mean? Is it as good for viewing angles and colour?

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jjaymz

When you say "like IPS"...what do you mean? Is it as good for viewing … When you say "like IPS"...what do you mean? Is it as good for viewing angles and colour?


Yup, exactly. Nice colours, great black level and wide viewing angles, more akin to IPS than TN.

tipsy1973

sadly no good for gaming unless you love motion blur and wanna vomit


Traditionally yeah VA has been more prone to ghosting, but like everything techy, it's constantly being improved. I had an old MVA panel, 26", a few years ago, and that WAS pretty awful (lovely picture, terrible motion) - this was in the period when there were quite a few VA screens around, PVA, MVA etc, and Samsung were pushing them in their high end models. That period was when *VA got a bad name for ghosting. Things have improved greatly now, both on paper (4ms gtg compared with around 30ms back then) and in reality on these new BenQ VA screens. The difference is there's hardly any around anymore, I think, correct me if I'm wrong, but it is only BenQ making monitors with VA panels in any quantity right now. Hence old tales persisting

Original Poster

And fyi, that old MVA 26" went back within the 10 days DSR rules (it was that bad!) to be replaced with a TN panel I kept for several years, and later on with a 27" 1440p LG IPS "imac" panel. My experience with the new VA was a world apart, picked up a GW2750HM for my dad 6 months ago and have been very impressed. Yes, I have gamed on it, it's fine, no noticeable ghosting.

I agree about VA Panels being not so good for gaming but for everyday use, interweb, office, YouTube etc you cant really go wrong. I've found with equivalent IPS panels they have a pretty harsh anti-glare screen coating which makes the image look hazy. I've had one of these Benq's (returned it due to a loud buzz) and it was pin sharp, crystal clear (no haze) and had inky black blacks.

I've also owned an older Samsung 2333T VA based monitor and that ghosted badly but these are nowhere near as bad. Currently using a T28C570 28" VA monitor and couldn't be happier with it.

These are a pretty good compromise between IPS and TN and excellent value.

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freakstyler

I agree about VA Panels being not so good for gaming but for everyday … I agree about VA Panels being not so good for gaming but for everyday use, interweb, office, YouTube etc you cant really go wrong. I've found with equivalent IPS panels they have a pretty harsh anti-glare screen coating which makes the image look hazy. I've had one of these Benq's (returned it due to a loud buzz) and it was pin sharp, crystal clear (no haze) and had inky black blacks. I've also owned an older Samsung 2333T VA based monitor and that ghosted badly but these are nowhere near as bad. Currently using a T28C570 28" VA monitor and couldn't be happier with it. These are a pretty good compromise between IPS and TN and excellent value.



Yeah I heard about the buzzing thing, have to say I can't notice it at all on the one I got for my dad, and there's enough of a positive crop of user reviews around in general to suggest it's a fairly isolated thing. If you get one and it buzzes, return it and have another

jjaymz

When you say "like IPS"...what do you mean? Is it as good for viewing … When you say "like IPS"...what do you mean? Is it as good for viewing angles and colour?

tipsy1973

sadly no good for gaming unless you love motion blur and wanna vomit



I bought the iiyama 27"va & it went back an got the TN version, I've have a few monitors & this one here is great for photo editting but for fps games well motion blur does effect you no mater what you say about the 4ms refresh & there have been some reviews to prove this. I'm not a lover of TN panels but the new PLS monitors from AOC are great but they cost.

Oh the best va monitor I had was a DGM from ocuk years ago, 24" va using au optronics panel but sadly it died hence my trying of other kit
Edited by: "tipsy1973" 25th Jul 2014

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tipsy1973

fps games well motion blur does effect you no mater what you say about … fps games well motion blur does effect you no mater what you say about the 4ms refresh & there have been some reviews to prove this.



Reviews you say... where! I can't find any complaints of motion blur related to these BenQ VAs! And I have personal experience of FPS gaming on them - like you say, you don't?

That DGM with the AU O panel would be similar to the one I had years ago, awful blur (but yeah lovely picture). The picture on the new BenQ VA is as good, ..... but without the blur!

And yeah stop looking a bargain in the mouth people, who's voting cold on this! I've seen plenty of lame picture TN screens for more money get more heat than this. When the alternative is a 33% more expensive (at least!) IPS, or underwhelming TN, this is definitely a great choice!

Awaken

And fyi, that old MVA 26" went back within the 10 days DSR rules (it was … And fyi, that old MVA 26" went back within the 10 days DSR rules (it was that bad!) to be replaced with a TN panel I kept for several years, and later on with a 27" 1440p LG IPS "imac" panel. My experience with the new VA was a world apart, picked up a GW2750HM for my dad 6 months ago and have been very impressed. Yes, I have gamed on it, it's fine, no noticeable ghosting.

krokkodillo

Sorry I'm posting from Hulst app, how The new VA screens are comparable to 27" 1440p LG IPS "imac" panels?

Original Poster

Well, the "imac"panel is IPS, so a little better viewing angles and response time, but the picture quality on the VA BenQ is going to be very similar, with better black levels. The 1440p bit is the resolution, this deal is for a 1920x1080 screen, the LG IPS "imac" panel is 2560x1440, more dots in same space

I ended up buying this for my Dad from ebuyer ebuyer.com/502…tbe

Tested it myself and I did notice that text is less sharp than on my Dell U2412M. I don't think it's just the fact that the monitor is larger whilst using the same amount of pixels (my Dell is actually 1920x1200, so the Benq has less pixels), the text just looks a bit smudged/blurry. I found the same comparing it to my Dad's Acer 24" IPS and the fact he has the DPI increased to 150% (he had it at 175% on the Acer but I reduced it to 150% for the Benq so he can see if that's OK for him) probably just makes it worse.

For contrast/black levels it's amazing though. Ran X-Plane with the Benq side-by-side with his Acer and on a night flight, you can't see any details in the darkness on the Acer, apart from the odd star, whereas on the Benq you can see clouds, loads of stars, the details on the wings when the navigation/collision lights flash. Obviously you can turn the brightness/contrast up on the Acer and probably see more detail in the night but even at it's normal settings, the black looks grey-ish and not at all like a night sky, whereas the Benq makes you feel like you're looking at a real night scene. All the grounds lights sparkle/twinkle and are much more colour-rich as well. In daytime flights the difference isn't as noticeable at first but you do notice that the edges of grounds objects/field boundaries look quite jagged on the Acer, whereas on the Benq everything is just more smoothed out and less jarring.

This was just with his on-board Intel GPU as well, which admittedly did struggle to manage 20fps with all that detail, so once I get him a decent graphics card I'm sure it will look better still.

He hasn't said anything to me about the text being less sharp, so hopefully it won't be something that bothers him, otherwise I'll have to get him another monitor for office work (my Mum's got the Acer now!) and try and devise some clever mechanism so he can move the Benq into position when he wants to fly.

I don't have any calibration equipment, so I just followed the advice in this article tftcentral.co.uk/rev…htm and used their ICC profile from here tftcentral.co.uk/art…htm which might not be perfect as all monitors are individual but is no doubt better than what I could have done by eye.

Oh and this is definitely the updated flicker-free model, it says so all over the box!
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