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28" Dell Ultra HD 4K LED Monitor @ Aria. Was £327, now £240

Found 7th Mar 2015

I'm no expert on 4K screens, but know that Dell monitors are well respected. This seems a good price to me.

Specification:-
- Diagonally Viewable Size: 28.0" (28-inch wide viewable image size)
- Aspect Ratio: Widescreen (16:9)
- Panel Type, Surface: TN
- Optimal resolution: 3840 x 2160 at 30 Hz
- Contrast Ratio: 1000: 1 (typical)
- Brightness: 300 cd/m2 (typical)
- Response Time: 5 ms (typical)
- Viewing Angle: (160° vertical / 170° horizontal)
- Color Support: 1.073 billion colors
- Pixel Pitch: 0.16 mm
- Connectivity: 1x DisplayPort, 1x Mini DisplayPort, 1x HDMI (MHL), 1x DisplayPort out (MST), 1x USB Upstream, 4x USB 3.0 ports - Downstream (3 at the bottom, 1 up to 1.5A charging port with BC1.2 compliance devices at the back)
- Display Screen Coating: Antiglare with hard-coating 3H
- Audio Output: Dell Speaker Bar AC511 (optional)
- Height-adjustable stand, pivot, tilt , swivel and built in cable-management
- Flat Panel Mount Interface: VESA (100 mm)
- USB 3.0 Super-Speed Hub (with 1 USB upstream port and 4 USB downstream ports, including 1 up to 1.5A charging port with BC1.2 compliance devices)
- Warranty: 3yr

Plus postage.
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47 Comments

7th Mar 2015

TN = poop.

7th Mar 2015

Good price but TN.

7th Mar 2015

Heat for savings but will it run smooth enough to run Minesweeper?

7th Mar 2015

lol will need a good gfx card if you want smooth frame rates on minesweeper

7th Mar 2015

The 25inch ips qhd screen is better at this price point.

8th Mar 2015

4k at 30mhz - enjoy!

To be fair it's not a bad price, but it get poor reviews.

8th Mar 2015

Cmberry20
4k at 30mhz - enjoy! To be fair it's not a bad price, but it get poor … 4k at 30mhz - enjoy! To be fair it's not a bad price, but it get poor reviews.

It's Hz. Display port handles 60hz fine.

8th Mar 2015

Cmberry20
4k at 30mhz - enjoy!

30MHz is one hell of a refresh rate!

8th Mar 2015

rev6
It's Hz. Display port handles 60hz fine.

It sais Optimal resolution: 3840 x 2160 at 30 Hz so no 60Hz.

8th Mar 2015

encaser
It sais Optimal resolution: 3840 x 2160 at 30 Hz so no 60Hz.

Even with DP? That's terrible

8th Mar 2015

Non ips makes it a no no for me

8th Mar 2015

If you want a 4K monitor for video editing/photoshop, you'll need an ips one
If you want a 4K monitor for gaming you'll need one that can do at least 60Hz at 4k

8th Mar 2015

30Hz is pretty bad...

8th Mar 2015

30Hz is fail.

8th Mar 2015

I'm so looking forward to the 34" 21:9 monitor to be sub £300

8th Mar 2015

30mHz... Bro, do you even lift bro?

8th Mar 2015

I'm still wondering if this well be ok for Office/ Internet use. Got an old Yamakasi 1440p 27in I want to replace and can't decide between this or the 25in Dell

Original Poster

8th Mar 2015

Thanks for all the feedback on 30Hz refresh. I didn't realise it was such a showstopper for gaming.

I don't play games on mine, just business apps, email, browsing, spreadsheets etc, so it seemed a nice upgrade in size and resolution over a 27inch 1080p, for about the same money. Less than some even.

Original Poster

8th Mar 2015

J400uk
I'm still wondering if this well be ok for Office/ Internet use. Got an … I'm still wondering if this well be ok for Office/ Internet use. Got an old Yamakasi 1440p 27in I want to replace and can't decide between this or the 25in Dell

I'm thinking the same way. Dell make good monitors and for the use case you describe I think I'll go for the extra inches.

Banned

8th Mar 2015

kalico
Thanks for all the feedback on 30Hz refresh. I didn't realise it was … Thanks for all the feedback on 30Hz refresh. I didn't realise it was such a showstopper for gaming. I don't play games on mine, just business apps, email, browsing, spreadsheets etc, so it seemed a nice upgrade in size and resolution over a 27inch 1080p, for about the same money. Less than some even.

It's not just gaming that suffers, using a screen at only 30hz feels like dragging your mouse through treacle. it's a really horrible experience. avoid like the plague

8th Mar 2015

30 Hz No Thanks! Cold.

8th Mar 2015

Yeah there was another thread on this monitor, 30Hz and what appears to be north of 200ms input latency makes it virtually impossible to use in the real world. It probably has its place for viewing static images and complex diagrams/drawings but not for what most of us would want to use this for.

8th Mar 2015

People shouldn't treat TN as a death sentence. It's not 'poop'. (It used to be that IPS was poop, if you were a gamer, because the refresh rates were so low. Obviously IPS has improved since then!)

Anyway, certainly for the Asus PB287Q, the feeling was that for most people it wasn't a big issue that the panel was TN, because it was very well done, and apparently TN has been able to improve a little, too.

However a 30Hz refresh rate at native resolution is unforgiveable. That's where you should be focussing.

Edited by: "wild_quinine" 8th Mar 2015

8th Mar 2015

30hz= waste of money

8th Mar 2015

Refresh rate is so low it Hz.

8th Mar 2015

Damn, got excited for a second then realised I looked at this monitor yesterday and came to the same conclusion

I have ordered the illyama cheap one but have now realised I have a bit more to spend, about £250. I would like a 27" 2560x1440 but not seeing anything so far, not sure a 25" will cut it.

Edited by: "tek-monkey" 8th Mar 2015

8th Mar 2015

TN is ****

8th Mar 2015

As the owner of a Dell monitor which cost nearly £1 K when new there are a few things people should know about them.
Well regarded they might be when new, but the component quality used is just about as poor as it's possible to get, one guy on You Tube railing about the cheapest no brand electrolytics which fail a lot sooner than the branded ones, with him ranting that if Dell only charged a dollar more they could upgrade them. Then as I found when the connection from the scalar board to the screen failed, the two essential multi pin connectors are not even plated !
Failure is inevitable and Dell do not supply spares for their monitors. Unless you are able to repair it yourself, or know someone who can do it for you then you have to regard a Dell monitor as a short term disposable item.

8th Mar 2015

Thoughtful
As the owner of a Dell monitor which cost nearly £1 K when new there are … As the owner of a Dell monitor which cost nearly £1 K when new there are a few things people should know about them.Well regarded they might be when new, but the component quality used is just about as poor as it's possible to get, one guy on You Tube railing about the cheapest no brand electrolytics which fail a lot sooner than the branded ones, with him ranting that if Dell only charged a dollar more they could upgrade them. Then as I found when the connection from the scalar board to the screen failed, the two essential multi pin connectors are not even plated !Failure is inevitable and Dell do not supply spares for their monitors. Unless you are able to repair it yourself, or know someone who can do it for you then you have to regard a Dell monitor as a short term disposable item.

Um, what? I've about 250 of them currently deployed at work (so have gone through north of 350 units due to upgrades when people want a bigger one) and have had only one problem in 10 years. Which they fixed under NBD on-site warranty.

We buy mostly Ultrasharps, with some Professionals and a very few E-series when a budget line is super tight. Warranty details

8th Mar 2015

tek-monkey
Damn, got excited for a second then realised I looked at this monitor … Damn, got excited for a second then realised I looked at this monitor yesterday and came to the same conclusion :(I have ordered the illyama cheap one but have now realised I have a bit more to spend, about £250. I would like a 27" 2560x1440 but not seeing anything so far, not sure a 25" will cut it.

For your price point I recommend the Dell U2515H, unless you want to save up ~£400 to get a decent 27".

8th Mar 2015

THRILLER-DEEJAY
TN = poop.

ZzZzzzz TN = the price you pay!

8th Mar 2015

Mystogan
For your price point I recommend the Dell U2515H, unless you want to save … For your price point I recommend the Dell U2515H, unless you want to save up ~£400 to get a decent 27".

U2515H is what I use, it's brilliant, just need to drop the brightness to match your environment (mine's on 25%).

8th Mar 2015

Anyone fancy a well looked after 27in Yamakasi + cash in swaps for a U2515H? Lol

Back to the 28 wonder if there are any shops that have these to try out, as it seems the only way to be sure about what impact the 30hz refresh rate has

8th Mar 2015

30Hz = FAIL

This thing is practically useless.

TN panel too. This abomination should never have been created.

8th Mar 2015

Topinio
Um, what? I've about 250 of them currently deployed at work (so have … Um, what? I've about 250 of them currently deployed at work (so have gone through north of 350 units due to upgrades when people want a bigger one) and have had only one problem in 10 years. Which they fixed under NBD on-site warranty.We buy mostly Ultrasharps, with some Professionals and a very few E-series when a budget line is super tight. Warranty details

youtube.com/wat…Hr8

forums.bit-tech.net/sho…634 (this thread describes the problem with the connector, but not how to fix it.)

There are an awful lot of videos on you tube about how to fix Dell monitors, but they really aren't repair friendly as the video I've posted shows.

Original Poster

8th Mar 2015

J400uk
...Back to the 28 wonder if there are any shops that have these to try … ...Back to the 28 wonder if there are any shops that have these to try out, as it seems the only way to be sure about what impact the 30hz refresh rate has

That's a great idea and a useful comment. Seems it's easy to dismiss this on the specs alone, but I do wonder why Dell would release it to market if it is such an abomination. They're in business to make a profit after all, not just offer up products to be shot down.

With that in mind, isn't it time the short comments like "It's TN so pants..." stopped. I'm not sure about others, but I "get it" that TN might not be as good as IPS and that 30Hz isn't as good as 60Hz.

I reckon that there could still be some people who would rather pay £240 for a 28 inch, 4K resolution monitor than what the equivalent would cost if 60Hz (which is guess would be a significant amount more).

8th Mar 2015

I have an old TN panel, thinking about it now its gotta be 8 years old, so whatever I get will be a vast improvement on what I'm used to!

8th Mar 2015

Thoughtful
the component quality used is just about as poor as it's possible to get

No it's not, and it's about the same as most every other monitor out there.

I've taken apart and repaired the Dell 3007WFP. The caps on the powerboard are still working fine in that after nearly 8 years of use.

If you want companies to start using Nippon caps or whatever, then review sites need to start doing tear-downs on review samples, otherwise all manufacturers will continue to go cheap on their components.

8th Mar 2015

kalico
That's a great idea and a useful comment. Seems it's easy to dismiss … That's a great idea and a useful comment. Seems it's easy to dismiss this on the specs alone, but I do wonder why Dell would release it to market if it is such an abomination.

Because they like money and 4k is an easy way to convince dumb punters that your screen is worth buying over the one you already have?

Look at any thread selling TVs here and all you read is "wah, but it's not 4k!". As if it even matters at this point. 4k standards are still being defined for broadcast yet people are falling over themselves scrabbling for crappy screens just because "the numbers are higher so they must be better!".

Just as in cameras, more pixels doesn't make a better product. The 30hz refresh here is a stopping point for gaming and video playback and the TN elements make it poor for photo work... The only argument you could use for this screen being decent is that you could have a lot of very fine text on your screen at once? But even then it'll look like crud when it scrolls.

8th Mar 2015

Topinio
30Hz is fail.

But isn't it 24Hz when you go to the cinema...that's a pretty big screen

Edited by: "HankMcSpank" 8th Mar 2015

28" Dell Ultra HD 4K LED Monitor @ Aria. Was £327, now £240

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