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3  months TIDAL Hi-Res streaming music service worth £19.99 per month for free via Sennheiser CapTune app @ Google Play Store and Apple App Store
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3 months TIDAL Hi-Res streaming music service worth £19.99 per month for free via Sennheiser CapTune app @ Google Play Store and Apple App Store

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Posted 15th Apr 2018Edited by:"miffyl"
Updated following info from @Jut1972 hotukdeals.com/com…147

Shortcut without installing CapTune - go straight to tidal.com/cap…e90

I posted this a couple of times last year. I've checked again and it's still working.
Install Sennheiser CapTune from your app store. Works on both Apple and Android
Click settings
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2926398.jpgclick Tap to Login then Sign up to TIDAL

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You can cancel straight away and still use the service to the end of the 3 months.
Some users ( ) have also reported having consecutive subscriptions by signing up again with new details.
If you have limited data, watch out when streaming as some tracks can be up to 60mb each!

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£20 a month are you for real
paneds15/04/2018 19:25

£20 a month are you for real


You don't actually pay £20 per month.
It's higher quality than Spotify etc.

From a TechRadar review:

It streams music in the form of 16bit, 44.1kHz FLAC files with a bitrate of 1411kbps. And I can tell you now, it's brilliant.

For the uninitiated, FLAC is the format of choice for many people who want to listen to music files without having to put up with lossy formats like MP3.

When you compress a music track into an MP3, you have to shave off a lot of detail in order to achieve that miniature file size. Other formats like OGG (as used by Spotify) do a highly commendable job of limiting that shaving mostly to parts of the audio that might be considered 'inaudible'.

The truth is that all compression formats are a compromise, a victory for convenience over sound quality.

FLAC tracks are also compressed but in a totally different way. They're a lot more like a zipped file, so when they're played back, they can be decompressed to their original glory without any loss of fidelity.

Thus, while a CD track might take up anywhere between 60 and 100MB, a FLAC file will be more like 30 to 50MB. MP3s encoded at the maximum bitrate of 320kbps are typically only about 5-10MB in size, and there's no way to get back the information you threw away during compression. That's why MP3 is described as a lossy format while FLAC is not.

The upshot of this is that FLAC is the perfect format for delivering CD-quality music down an internet pipe.
dush_yant15/04/2018 19:38

Using high end consumer sound reproduction kit it’s been proven on several …Using high end consumer sound reproduction kit it’s been proven on several occasions that even sound professionals are not able to distinguish 320kbps MP3 version of their own tracks from lossless audio version.


Reference?
miffyl15/04/2018 19:30

You don't actually pay £20 per month.It's higher quality than Spotify …You don't actually pay £20 per month.It's higher quality than Spotify etc.From a TechRadar review:It streams music in the form of 16bit, 44.1kHz FLAC files with a bitrate of 1411kbps. And I can tell you now, it's brilliant.For the uninitiated, FLAC is the format of choice for many people who want to listen to music files without having to put up with lossy formats like MP3.When you compress a music track into an MP3, you have to shave off a lot of detail in order to achieve that miniature file size. Other formats like OGG (as used by Spotify) do a highly commendable job of limiting that shaving mostly to parts of the audio that might be considered 'inaudible'.The truth is that all compression formats are a compromise, a victory for convenience over sound quality.FLAC tracks are also compressed but in a totally different way. They're a lot more like a zipped file, so when they're played back, they can be decompressed to their original glory without any loss of fidelity.Thus, while a CD track might take up anywhere between 60 and 100MB, a FLAC file will be more like 30 to 50MB. MP3s encoded at the maximum bitrate of 320kbps are typically only about 5-10MB in size, and there's no way to get back the information you threw away during compression. That's why MP3 is described as a lossy format while FLAC is not.The upshot of this is that FLAC is the perfect format for delivering CD-quality music down an internet pipe.


Using high end consumer sound reproduction kit it’s been proven on several occasions that even sound professionals are not able to distinguish 320kbps MP3 version of their own tracks from lossless audio version.
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ukflyboy16/04/2018 13:57

I have a USB DAC and Spotify won't play with it. Doesn't seem to output …I have a USB DAC and Spotify won't play with it. Doesn't seem to output via USB though was outputting from my PC to my Hifi setup via optical.


PC-->USB--> DAC? That's an issue with your setup mate, not Spotify. I run Spotify via a USB DAC on a PC with no issue.
I used the trial of Tidal for a month and it was good quality but I sound found out the political agenda they were nudging in all the time I didn't renew. Same reason I don't use Netflix.
barbiegirl16/04/2018 14:27

PC-->USB--> DAC? That's an issue with your setup mate, not Spotify. I run …PC-->USB--> DAC? That's an issue with your setup mate, not Spotify. I run Spotify via a USB DAC on a PC with no issue.


Thanks, very useful to know. When I looked into it someone had raised the question relatively recently on the Spotify community page and they (Spotify support) replied that external USB DAC support wasn't a feature they were looking to integrate - I presume the issue is mine just doesn't support Ogg then! I think I do actually still prefer Tidal, but is it worth twice the price if all your kit plays with it? Not really.
Cheers signed up and imported some playlists from Deezer/Spotify

Annoying that Tidal isn't linked with Google Home, been waiting ages for Deezer to be linked as well
ukflyboy1 h, 27 m ago

Thanks, very useful to know. When I looked into it someone had raised the …Thanks, very useful to know. When I looked into it someone had raised the question relatively recently on the Spotify community page and they (Spotify support) replied that external USB DAC support wasn't a feature they were looking to integrate - I presume the issue is mine just doesn't support Ogg then! I think I do actually still prefer Tidal, but is it worth twice the price if all your kit plays with it? Not really.


If your PC is sending audio over USB to the DAC, it's all fine. Maybe as you say Ogg isn't being supported properly.

What Spotify won't do, annoyingly, is set the app to use WASAPI, instead if you are using a browser, the signal is going thru all manner of Windows layers before getting to the DAC and is thus, not a true bitstream. There's FIDELIFY which is a Spotify client that improves on this but it's not very user friendly and no longer supported.

J River is king of media playback IME. WASAPI and FLAC with correct sample and bit depths.

Have fun.
Alternatively, 3 months free Qobuz.

3 months free trial

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Valid until 29th April 18


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Edited by: "fluidz" 16th Apr 2018
YoungingtonCraigington16/04/2018 14:44

I used the trial of Tidal for a month and it was good quality but I sound …I used the trial of Tidal for a month and it was good quality but I sound found out the political agenda they were nudging in all the time I didn't renew. Same reason I don't use Netflix.


What political agenda is that then? Do enlighten the rest of us who thought they were just streaming services
I was running TIDAL none Hi-res before upgrading and I can certainley tell the difference on my Hi-res audio platform which is Control4 with Triad amps its instantly noticeable
Edited by: "kemik" 16th Apr 2018
kemik16/04/2018 16:29

I was running TIDAL none Hi-res before upgrading and I can certainley tell …I was running TIDAL none Hi-res before upgrading and I can certainley tell the difference on my Hi-res audio platform which is Control4 with Triad amps its instantly noticeable


Get a friend to come round and blindfold yourself. Play 10 tracks at 320 and FLAC version. From what you've said ('instantly noticeable') you will get 10 out of 10 correct when asked if it's 320 or FLAC. Sadly, I won't be there to witness it, but I'd be staggered if you get them all correct (chance alone means you'll get some right).

I thought Control4 was a home automation system. Could you please post a link to the hi-fi stuff, and the Triad amps. Cheers.
barbiegirl16/04/2018 16:41

Get a friend to come round and blindfold yourself. Play 10 tracks at 320 …Get a friend to come round and blindfold yourself. Play 10 tracks at 320 and FLAC version. From what you've said ('instantly noticeable') you will get 10 out of 10 correct when asked if it's 320 or FLAC. Sadly, I won't be there to witness it, but I'd be staggered if you get them all correct (chance alone means you'll get some right). I thought Control4 was a home automation system. Could you please post a link to the hi-fi stuff, and the Triad amps. Cheers.



control4.com/pre…ify

Yes Control4 is home automation and I use the controller as my Internet streaming server. That's not to say you need to though as there are plenty of good streaming servers you can buy. But I can guarantee you can tell the difference I install Home Cinema's and sound systems so I'm not saying I'm an expert but I will say I've heard enough sound systems to know what sounds good and what doesn't
Edited by: "kemik" 16th Apr 2018
After signing up and logging in, I'm only seeing 30 day free trial.
You can skip the captune app bit by going to tidal.com/cap…e90
I stream Tidal and the difference is night and day..if you can't tell the difference I'd see a doctor.
kemik2 h, 32 m ago

https://www.control4.com/press_releases/2017/09/06/control4-launches-triad-multi-room-audio-line-and-expanded-music-service-integrations-with-iheartradio-and-spotifyYes Control4 is home automation and I use the controller as my Internet streaming server. That's not to say you need to though as there are plenty of good streaming servers you can buy. But I can guarantee you can tell the difference I install Home Cinema's and sound systems so I'm not saying I'm an expert but I will say I've heard enough sound systems to know what sounds good and what doesn't


Looks like nice kit. Thanks for link. I'd still like to take the placebo / power of suggestion out of it and see you do it in a blind test. Maybe I don't have golden ears, but I don't hear any significant difference even on cans between the two. Someone posted "I'd see a doctor"; such hyperbole given that the general consensus is on a spectrum between either you can't hear any difference at all to if you have golden ears and top end kit there's a slight difference. Not much point discussing it if you seriously think there's that much difference.
I can only seem to find 30 day free trials
Just moved from Spotify, the quality is far superior, and I'll not be moving back
miffyl7 m ago

https://www.hotukdeals.com/comments/permalink/33647147


Yes I did that. But when I log in there are only options for 30 days free.
Love Tidal
Is Tidal compatible with Amazon Echo like Spotify and Deezer?
There are quite a few tests online to see if you can tell the difference with audio quality. Have a go and I think most people will fail miserably. At least you'll know if you are wasting your money by keeping the subscription.
3 months free is a no brainer though and obviously a good deal!
TBH I failed most flac tests. I use shure Se535 limited edition earphones and Bowers and Wilkins PX headphones wired on a quad Dac player. I think there's a bigger difference between wired and Aptx HD bluetooth than there is in decent mp3 and flac. I'd go wired every time despite my headphones and device having Aptx HD bluetooth. I don't care if my stream is Flac or good mp3.
I'm as guilty as the next man for wasting money but go for whatever floats your boat in life if you can afford it.
Porka91117/04/2018 17:18

There are quite a few tests online to see if you can tell the difference …There are quite a few tests online to see if you can tell the difference with audio quality. Have a go and I think most people will fail miserably. At least you'll know if you are wasting your money by keeping the subscription. 3 months free is a no brainer though and obviously a good deal! TBH I failed most flac tests. I use shure Se535 limited edition earphones and Bowers and Wilkins PX headphones wired on a quad Dac player. I think there's a bigger difference between wired and Aptx HD bluetooth than there is in decent mp3 and flac. I'd go wired every time despite my headphones and device having Aptx HD bluetooth. I don't care if my stream is Flac or good mp3. I'm as guilty as the next man for wasting money but go for whatever floats your boat in life if you can afford it.


The things a lot of people didn't realize is to really enjoy or at least able listen hi-res music requires good gears (speakers/headphones, dac, amp), good recorded albums, environment and a good pair of ears (perhaps with some training too...). If you think to fulfill all these are too complicated, then might as well just stick to mp3.
terencetcf18/04/2018 19:18

The things a lot of people didn't realize is to really enjoy or at least …The things a lot of people didn't realize is to really enjoy or at least able listen hi-res music requires good gears (speakers/headphones, dac, amp), good recorded albums, environment and a good pair of ears (perhaps with some training too...). If you think to fulfill all these are too complicated, then might as well just stick to mp3.


I don't really get what you mean by too complicated. I've pretty much got everything covered.
I don't get why people are chasing flac files and raving about bluetooth aptx HD. If a person is satisfied with bluetooth I'd recommend not bothering with flac. The difference for me is way bigger between wired and bluetooth than good mp3 and flac. Another bigger issue is the quality of the original recording of which nothing can be done about at consumer level
For me concentrating so hard to hear the tiny difference between good mp3 and flac kind of removes the pleasure of listening to the music and just enjoying it.
Edited by: "Porka911" 19th Apr 2018
Porka91119th Apr 2018

I don't really get what you mean by too complicated. I've pretty much got …I don't really get what you mean by too complicated. I've pretty much got everything covered. I don't get why people are chasing flac files and raving about bluetooth aptx HD. If a person is satisfied with bluetooth I'd recommend not bothering with flac. The difference for me is way bigger between wired and bluetooth than good mp3 and flac. Another bigger issue is the quality of the original recording of which nothing can be done about at consumer level For me concentrating so hard to hear the tiny difference between good mp3 and flac kind of removes the pleasure of listening to the music and just enjoying it.


What I want to point out is if you can barely hear the differences because of your ears or the gears you have, simply just enjoy what you have, MP3 isn’t by any means bad at all.

However, If you don’t mind to pay more, there is nothing wrong with flac or even SACD too, as long as you enjoy.
All I'm trying to point out is that when topics like this get discussed to death on hifi forums and the people who really care about music quality on the forums can't agree on this subject then flac is wasted on probably nearly all of the population and large parts of the remaining few are deluded anyway.
I'm probably the most fussy person I know when it comes to music and equipment. If Shure SE535's Ltd and B&W PX headphones on a quad dac player aren't enough then I guess flacs are even more pointless than I already thought they were.
It's simply a waste of money to most people and I encourage them to try the online tests before spending their money. If they can't spot the difference side by side then there's absolutely no chance they will truly tell the difference in real use.
There comes a point when sound quality is so good that audiophiles are playing spot the difference for the sake of it instead of enjoying the music.
Excellent thanks you - worked and great instructions
Didn't work for me
The comments in this thread are so annoying. Your hearing is YOUR hearing, I don't care if "insert named individual here" can't tell a difference between mp3 and 16/24bit lossless and neither should you because they aren't you.

Play your favourite songs on both formats and see if you can tell any difference. I've been with google play music for so long I'm locked in at the introduction price and hesitant to give it up. I've just got decent 35kHz active studio monitors and the difference is unreal to ME. Spotify sounds like crap, google doesn't cut it, 16/24bit lossless all the way for me now.

Trying to get great audio is a rabbithole, good luck.
Anyone know if it’s correct that Tidal won’t deliver Hi Res on the Android app, even on a high end phone with Quad DAC? I’d mostly be listening out and about. Thanks
steveyboy7930th May 2018

Anyone know if it’s correct that Tidal won’t deliver Hi Res on the Android …Anyone know if it’s correct that Tidal won’t deliver Hi Res on the Android app, even on a high end phone with Quad DAC? I’d mostly be listening out and about. Thanks


Mine shows hifi when I play through it.
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barmrest15th Apr

Even if that's not true, and I do have some doubts about it, what is …Even if that's not true, and I do have some doubts about it, what is certain is that at least 99% of people do not have the audio equipment to take advantage of this. FLAC is for archival purposes, not for streaming.


Fools and there digitally produced 2018 vinyl but hey ho. I'll stick with my pirated mp3s whilst these idiots get 2000 turntables, good luck getting your records and turntable on a train. An fool and his money are....
jamesdew16th Apr

A lot of this MP3 snobbery comes from the start of MP3 when the encoders …A lot of this MP3 snobbery comes from the start of MP3 when the encoders were no good and they really did sound significantly worse. I have some FLAC audio with a pretty decent sound system, sometimes I think I can tell but I'm really not that sure.


That's because people used lame instead of fraunhofer pain. You had to use l3enc and the high quality setting or you was wasting time. I have always laughed at these 4000 turntable vinyl officionadoes with their 'digital' 21st century vinyl. A fool and his money can always be parted. I'd rather take the normal 6 month deal I've binned the previous 6 month German deal. The only thing that stops me going streaming if there was an easy way of cueing up 2500 mp3s into a Spotify or tidal or Deezer playlist. I'm still not convinced I wouldnt be stranded if tidal went bust which is likely so I'll stick with pirate bay and tickle these streaming services
barbiegirl16th Apr

What political agenda is that then? Do enlighten the rest of us who …What political agenda is that then? Do enlighten the rest of us who thought they were just streaming services


Read about their past, their acquisition and target audience. I knew about it just from using the app. But I suppose not everyone's aware of all the things going on in the world's media and corporations these days.
Porka91119th Apr 2018

All I'm trying to point out is that when topics like this get discussed to …All I'm trying to point out is that when topics like this get discussed to death on hifi forums and the people who really care about music quality on the forums can't agree on this subject then flac is wasted on probably nearly all of the population and large parts of the remaining few are deluded anyway. I'm probably the most fussy person I know when it comes to music and equipment. If Shure SE535's Ltd and B&W PX headphones on a quad dac player aren't enough then I guess flacs are even more pointless than I already thought they were. It's simply a waste of money to most people and I encourage them to try the online tests before spending their money. If they can't spot the difference side by side then there's absolutely no chance they will truly tell the difference in real use. There comes a point when sound quality is so good that audiophiles are playing spot the difference for the sake of it instead of enjoying the music.


There comes a point when sound quality is so good that audiophiles are playing spot the difference for the sake of it instead of enjoying the music.

THIS. Well said. amazon.co.uk/dp/…r=1
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