32GB Samsung SLC SSD £80.49 at Novatech
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32GB Samsung SLC SSD £80.49 at Novatech

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Found 12th Feb 2009Made hot 12th Feb 2009
This is a continuation of yesterday's 64GB thread:
hotukdeals.com/ite…tec

Novatech have approx 100 of the 32GB available at £10 more than yesterday's price. After these are sold, its likely the next batch will go up considerably (from reading their forums, I don't have inside info but what i've read so far checks out and I have spoken to them on phone - very helpful lady!).

2.5" SATA Solid State disk suitable for Desktops and Laptops. (you will probably need a 2.5" to 3.5" bay adapter if fitting in a desktop case).

Various delivery options available including free.
Quidco 3% available (but didnt track for me!)

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Original Poster

next cheapest i can see is £172 at Microdirect
microdirect.co.uk/Hom…735

other places are up to £300 and beyond for this.

Crucial have one at £78.19 delivered with possible £4.75 quidco.

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Original Poster

yes but that drive has bad reviews:
tweaktown.com/rev…tml

the samsung has excellent reviews (can someone dig some up, I gotta go now!)

Are these not slower than the OCZ SSD drives ? (100MBs Read /80MBs Write)
novatech.co.uk/nov…30G (155MBs Read /90MBs Write)
Or am I missing something ..

[email protected];4360255

OCZ Solid Series are MLC drives.



Yea, I spotted that. But still, surely a faster read / write still means a faster drive, regardless of technology? Or am I still missing something ... :oops:

Basically, all MLC drives but two (Intel and OCZ Vertex) use a legendary JMicron onboard processor which causes all sorts of pausing problems when doing any multitasking.

I see.. I was eyeballin' the OCZ vertex on amazon.com. $130 for a 30GB one. Mmmm..

Think I might hold out for the OCZ vertex then. Twice the read/write speed of this drive.

Good deal, as it goes, but I can't understand why folk would want this while the prices are as they are.

Fair enough, buy them when they are similar prices to what HDD's are now maybe.

For this money, you could get a 320GB HDD, and have a fair bit of change. The performance of SSD, just doesn't warrant the extra expence in my opinion.

You could also get a 32GB SD card for £20 less than this.

Banned

Very good price for SLC SSD Card.

The others posted above are MLC based which are no where as good.

I read up on the OCZ Vertex, and it seems that it uses two of the old JMicron controllers together on the same drive in some kind of RAID configuration. There is also onboard memory added.

JMicron themselves say that the problem won't get completely fixed until their new part comes out in Q3 2009.

source - silentpcreview.com/for…t=0

Original Poster

heh.. these deals will never get hot here, too many people comparing them with SD cards or whatever

suggestion: keep your large hard drive for mass storage, games, movies etc. copy the OS partition to one of these (easier if your drive is already partitioned). have a very fast and reliable computer!

Smiff;4361758

heh.. these deals will never get hot here, too many people comparing them … heh.. these deals will never get hot here, too many people comparing them with SD cards or whatever :/suggestion: keep your large hard drive for mass storage, games, movies etc. copy the OS partition to one of these (easier if your drive is already partitioned). have a very fast and reliable computer!



Of course 'people' are going to compare SSD's to HDD's are SD cards. They are all storage.

Don't get me wrong. This is a good deal for a SSD. :thumbsup:

Just wouldn't buy one myself until you can get at least 160GB for about £50. Which will be quite a while away.

Original Poster

they do completely different jobs though. you can't run your computer off an SD card! and if you use these for your bulk storage, you're either an idiot or very very rich. i guess most poeple still think in terms of one hard drive per computer which is simpler but not necessary.

anyway.. they still have 50+ left for people who want them!

Banned

bigbigblue;4360006

Crucial have one at £78.19 delivered with possible £4.75 q … Crucial have one at £78.19 delivered with possible £4.75 quidco.]http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/partspecs.aspx?IMODULE=CT32GBFAB0



That drive stinks, and comes no where near as close to the Samsung.

If possible, how does one connect these to a standard PC? And what power connectors are required? Thanks.

Cold! gud price for SSD, but 32GB! too much of a compromise even if it is as fast as hell, don't thimk I'd be able to store too many of my HD movie rips on this thing

Crossbow;4362527

If possible, how does one connect these to a standard PC? And what power … If possible, how does one connect these to a standard PC? And what power connectors are required? Thanks.



Bog standard SATA connector. You just need a laptop SATA to desktop SATA + Power connector bracket/adaptor.

Something like this should do:

morecomputers.com/ext…SAT

Very, very tempted to get one for my o/s and primary games/apps - but I just know in 6 months time we will see drives so much better than this for a fraction of the price.

Still, the price of early adoption!

Voted hot.

Yet another poster who says ' it will be better and cheaper later' .
Yes, probably . Just keep waiting . You will never buy.

Twice the read/write speed of this drive.



Read / write speeds can be meaningless. What you should be interested in is the random read / write speeds ... Most SSDs are very slow when accessing lots of files on different areas of the disk. Someone else I'm sure will agree with me here.

I'd strongly advise you wait until SSDs are a bit more refined.

My friend got an acer with a 32gb SSD in. Really slow - not sure whether its faulty, but the cheap HDD from Asda was much quicker - completely pointless imo

Original Poster

spraint;4362621

Bog standard SATA connector. You just need a laptop SATA to desktop SATA … Bog standard SATA connector. You just need a laptop SATA to desktop SATA + Power connector bracket/adaptor.Something like this should do:http://www.morecomputers.com/extra.asp?pn=BRACKET25SAT



don't even need that.. just checked, they are as you say standard connectors with normal spacing so if you have a free SATA power connector (or spare Molex>SATA power adapter) and an ordinary SATA lead you're good to go. maybe tape the drive somewhere inside the case. great not having to worry too much about vibration etc

these drives are sexy looking things, almost a shame to hide them in the case

hard part will be setting up the alignment and OS correctly (especially if you use XP or Vista since they don't support SSDs that well.. too big a topic to get into here though!).

Thanks guys, much appreciated

Shall tape it outside the case then - that's if I ever get one.

Pure ****!!
Looks like Gibbo leaving OCUK has led to Novatech picking up some of their nasty bad habits ... such as offering a really good price, set tongues wagging and then mysteriously put the price up a notch or two to cash in a bit more.

Cold from me.

OK...sortin out storage for OS and main programs with a larger (slower) hard drive for media. would this be in any way better than say a WD 74Gb Velociraptor Sata 2 10k rpm for my OS...i get the impression no SSD is guna beat that hard drive without costin a lot more? i dont mind payin more £ per GB (aslong as its above 30GB) but am i guna get faster for around £120?

crofter;4363389

Pure ****!!Looks like Gibbo leaving OCUK has led to Novatech picking up … Pure ****!!Looks like Gibbo leaving OCUK has led to Novatech picking up some of their nasty bad habits ... such as offering a really good price, set tongues wagging and then mysteriously put the price up a notch or two to cash in a bit more.Cold from me.

Almost every retailer I know does this at some point - Amazon, eBuyer, Scan, etc, etc. And so do many deals on here that are expired - they run out of stock, only to return at a higher cost.

So by your yardstick of what's hot & what isn't, you'll need to vote almost every deal cold ;-). Try that, including posting a similar comment in every similar deal thread that goes this way, & see how unpopular that makes you

crofter;4363389

Pure ****!!Looks like Gibbo leaving OCUK has led to Novatech picking up … Pure ****!!Looks like Gibbo leaving OCUK has led to Novatech picking up some of their nasty bad habits ... such as offering a really good price, set tongues wagging and then mysteriously put the price up a notch or two to cash in a bit more.Cold from me.



What the hell?

He gave a heads up that there was a second batch coming in at a higher price and people still moan about it even though it's around 50% cheaper than anywhere else.

I vote you cold.

overclockers.co.uk/pro…910

Overclockers have crucial 32GB/64GB SSD drives on pre-order at £63 and £125 respectively. The description says SLC. I thought crucial ssd drives were MLC?

You also get 5 year warranty from crucial which does suggest it is SLC. Also does anyone know if they are using JMicron controllers?

edit: Poor write performance. They are SLC confirmed by the review though.

tweaktown.com/rev…tml

Some terrible performance here

tweaktown.com/rev…tml

tweaktown.com/rev…tml


Note that the well performing G.skill SSD is a rebadged Samsung SLC SSD.

Original Poster

oh wow just benchmarked one of these, its vastly faster than my HDDs.
reads between 135 and 165 MBs, burst rate 155MBs, access time 0.1ms. using HDtune (which probably isn't very accurate?)
now to see if this translates into real world improvement.. if it does, i'll be very happy

edit:
after setting offset to 128k and retesting:
slower start (?) but then a very steady 160MBs, burst rate is up to 187MBs - and most importantly CPU usage HALVED to 17%.
absolutely superb!

this is on a 3 year old old nForce3 system with Sempron 2Ghz.

Smiff;4364976

oh wow just benchmarked one of these, its vastly faster than my … oh wow just benchmarked one of these, its vastly faster than my HDDs.reads between 135 and 165 MBs, burst rate 155MBs, access time 0.1ms. using HDtune (which probably isn't very accurate?)now to see if this translates into real world improvement.. if it does, i'll be very happy :)edit:after setting offset to 128k and retesting: slower start (?) but then a very steady 160MBs, burst rate is up to 187MBs - and most importantly CPU usage HALVED to 17%.absolutely superb!this is on a 3 year old old nForce3 system with Sempron 2Ghz.



Is this in RAID? Otherwise these results seem wrong considering they are specced as 100MB/s read 80MB/s write. Also I believe the nforce 3 motherboard only uses SATA150 which peaks at 150MB/s which is actually impossible to achieve. Peak more realistically would be around 130MB/s.

Try the newest HD Tune

hdtune.com/

Original Poster

it was HDtune 2.10 (i see current is 2.55)
SATA2
not RAID, just a single drive.

just realised i should have defragged before copying the OS partition because you shouldn't defrag SSDs.. oops.
sorry its nForce 430 not 3. that machine is from 2005 though i think... it is SATA2 though.

I've been toying with the idea for about 2months and seen these are like £120+ on most other sites I've gone for one.

32GB is perfect for me as I want windows 7 and xp sp3 on it then steam installed and that's it. Everything else can go on my Raptor that I am currently using and then I have a 1TB WD for all my downloads etc.

Thanks OP

Original Poster

no problem, thank the guys on the 64GB thread.
(30GB is enough for me also, it happened i've used a 30GB partition for years anyway)
extremely glad i waited 2 weeks and didn't buy the OCZ solid

Xelon;4362586

Cold! gud price for SSD, but 32GB! too much of a compromise even if it is … Cold! gud price for SSD, but 32GB! too much of a compromise even if it is as fast as hell, don't thimk I'd be able to store too many of my HD movie rips on this thing


You clearly have no clue..... this isn't a drive for storing your HD movies on as a standard magnetic storage drive is just fine for that purpose, this is a drive for putting your operating system or games on so they run faster. Running a HD movie from an SSD will give precisely 0 improvement.

306maxi;4366686

You clearly have no clue..... this isn't a drive for storing your HD … You clearly have no clue..... this isn't a drive for storing your HD movies on as a standard magnetic storage drive is just fine for that purpose, this is a drive for putting your operating system or games on so they run faster. Running a HD movie from an SSD will give precisely 0 improvement.



I think what he is trying to say, is that once your OS is on the SSD, there will be little room left over for storing media, meaning that you'd have to then have additional external storage.

Most people store music, films, photos on their systems, so 32GB isn't enough, once you have the operating system on there.

A 32GB SSD is ok for those that want a robust, portable system for travelling, or for those that don't want to store much in the way of media.

You mention that games may run faster on SSD, but again, once you have an OS such as vista on there, you'd have very little left of formatted space for game installs.

Original Poster

ok now i'm booting off one, these drives are so fast. (couldn't boot last night because Drive Snapshot, which was recommended on the OCZ forums, was messing something up - Acronis worked first time). i haven't even optimised Windows XP in any way and its faster than any computer i've ever used.
as far as i'm concerned the time of affordable SSDs is here. no more waiting!
why they are much faster than spec (100/80?) i don't know but who's complaining? lol
there's even loads left. gogogo! i think i have enough for all my computers.

Omg, 64Gb back in stock for double the original offer price, now at £229inc vat!

novatech.co.uk/nov…64G

There's only 6 left at the time of posting but it's still not worth posting a deal thread on to get the cold voting :-D

Original Poster

buy 2 of these and RAID0 them. but hurry up, once people realise how fast they are they will go..

Please can someone help me, I need an adapter for one of these to mount it in my Dell XPS
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