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£388 Fujitsu-Siemens AMILO Pi 3635 Core 2 Quad Q8200 Vista Home Premium ATI HD 4850 4GB RAM 1TB HDD DVD±RW (±R DL) BD-ROM £388 @ MISCO
£388 Fujitsu-Siemens AMILO Pi 3635 Core 2 Quad Q8200 Vista Home Premium ATI HD 4850 4GB RAM 1TB HDD DVD±RW (±R DL) BD-ROM £388 @ MISCO

£388 Fujitsu-Siemens AMILO Pi 3635 Core 2 Quad Q8200 Vista Home Premium ATI HD 4850 4GB RAM 1TB HDD DVD±RW (±R DL) BD-ROM £388 @ MISCO

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Be it school homework or home office tasks, from Internet surfing to watching Blu- RAyDVDs the highly versatile AMILO Desktop Pi 3635 is ideal for the whole family. IT has more then enough space with its 1TB HDD to store all your family pictures, holiday videos and personal data and 4GB Ram to watch your favourite movies with friends or listen to music fast and efficiently . The AMILO Desktop Pi 3635 is a perfect all-rounder at an affordable price..
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Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 / 2.33 GHz ( Quad-Core )
4GB RAM / 1TB Hard Disk Drive
Blu-Ray Reader, DVD RW Drive
ATI HD 4850 VGA, 2560 x 1600 Max Resolution Dual DVI, TV Out/HDCP and HDTV
*Includes DVI-HDMI Adapter
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit Edition
Microsoft Office 2007 60 Day try before you buy

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I'm not an expert but looks like a good deal to me with a pretty good graphics card.

Does anybody own one of these pc's? what are they like, psu power?

Bought one of these at end of january at £449 with £50 cashback (£399).

Plays all the latest games fine on high graphics settings and PC seems quiet in operation too.

Used the £35 upgrade to Windows 7 as well.

This was to replace an ageing Fujitsu Scaleo that was 6 years old and only had to replace the motherboard.

looks like an excellent budget games machine. hot from me

Interesting but can`t readily see what the delivery charges are.
What`s the cheapest upgrade to Windows 7 64bit cost ?

I can tell you you will not see better value than this .You cannot even buy the parts for that price.If you are after a very fast comp that can play all the latest games, not all at the highest settings but above PS3 and Xbox360's settings then this is for you.very very good value.

Bought one off eBay after I missed the last Misco deal - paid £350 including del and Win 7 upgrade.

At £388 this is a phenomenal price, and seeing how hot the last one got at £10/£60 more (depending on whether cashback is involved) I suspect this may get warm.

Mine is silent and a really nice machine, plays everything I've chucked at it so far (admittedly not loads!).

Good Deal - don't forget Quidco!

Not sure about the Guarantee tho'
'Warranty One year - carry in'
I suppose that means send back at your own expense!

And this is blueray player you can connect this to your HD TV easy and to a monitor at the same time if you required it to.

ahhhh tempted!! but Ive just picked up an acer Ferrari can't spend £800 on pc's in one month!voted hot though

can someone tell me what the mobo on this would be like for upgrading...id be keen to change the processor and gfx later on rather than splash out on a new pc.

cheers

graphics yes processor fast enough for a long time upgradable but not with the new i5/i7 chips

Good spec, no personal experience of quality, only downside seems to be lack of what some here call 'future proofing' and also if you want W7 that has to be factored into cost. Mosco must have a lot of these as it came up couple of months ago but with a cash back deal. Perhaps those who bought then could enlighten us.

Gez777;8246294

Good Deal - don't forget Quidco! Not sure about the Guarantee tho' … Good Deal - don't forget Quidco! Not sure about the Guarantee tho' 'Warranty One year - carry in' I suppose that means send back at your own expense!



These have a warranty with fujitsu. Just checked online on my serial:

"1 year Collect & Return Service, 5x9, valid in Europe, Africa and Middle East"

Mighty Anorak;8246364

Good spec, no personal experience of quality, only downside seems to be … Good spec, no personal experience of quality, only downside seems to be lack of what some here call 'future proofing' and also if you want W7 that has to be factored into cost. Mosco must have a lot of these as it came up couple of months ago but with a cash back deal. Perhaps those who bought then could enlighten us.



Enlighten you as to what? Ask away....


Bear in mind that as good as the i5/i7 ranges are, they are overkill for most users - quad core will fly through all games currently available, as well as processor intensive apps, and that will remain the case for several years yet (I retired my faithful 4 year old dual core to get this PC, which still coped admirably with the latest games).

As far as future proofing this is a mid/hi end comp at a budget price .Also computer tec has refreshes every 1-2years so something even on the most up to date comp would not be upgradable .Quality I personally have no experience of but it is a good brand.This comp is over kill for most users here and will last you a long time .Unless you are hardcore and in which case you would know what to buy and more over the cost!.

Has anyone tried to overclock the january version?

A bit worried cos afterall, if something seems too good to be true, it probably is. Wouldn't be surprised if the motherboard and ram prabably are very cheap stuff that cannot be overclocked.

Though a nice price! would prefer a higher end CPU, but hey that's just nitpicking.

Quicklite;8246485

Has anyone tried to overclock the january version? A bit worried cos … Has anyone tried to overclock the january version? A bit worried cos afterall, if something seems too good to be true, it probably is. Wouldn't be surprised if the motherboard and ram prabably are very cheap stuff that cannot be overclocked.Though a nice price! would prefer a higher end CPU, but hey that's just nitpicking.



This isnt a high end gaming rig, and yes I would agree it probably has a cheap MOBO and RAM - but, if you want to be able to tweak it in this fashion you are probably looking at the wrong machine.

IMHO (and only MHO), overclocking is overrated. You are talking here about a quad core machine, each running at 2.66GHz - why would you be desperate to tweak another 10% out of a machine that very little will even touch anyway?

I'll run a system analyzer on mine to see what mobo, ram, other detailed specs it gives.

BRB....

At that price range you are not looking at a overclocker I would be surprised if the bios supports it lol.

Dont buy this thinking you can upgrade it, and even though it has all singing all dancing headlines "quad core" and "4850" The mobo is probably dire, the PSU will be bare minimum if anything, the throughput from processor and memory will probably be crippled, will require a new mobo and probably case and PSU to get the most from it, then you have lost your OS licence also as OEM OS are licenced to the MOBO, good for what it is, but dont expect the best. I would wager that it is less than the sum of all of its parts.

OK guys here it is - sorry, its lengthy:

SiSoftware Sandra

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DIMM0 : Samsung M3 78T5663QZ3-CF7 ECB29F81 AssetTagNum0 DIMM Synchronous SDRAM 2GB/64BANK1 - DIMM1 : Samsung M3 78T5663QZ3-CF7 5BB7A280 AssetTagNum1 DIMM Synchronous SDRAM 2GB/64ChipsetModel : MSI MCP73 Host BridgeOEM Device Name : nVidia MCP73 Host BridgeRevision : K3Bus : Intel AGTL+Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 333MHz (1.33GHz)Width : 64-bitMaximum Bus Bandwidth : 10.4GB/sAPIC 1Version : 1.01Maximum Interrupts : 24IRQ Handler Engaged : YesEnhanced Support : YesMemory ModuleManufacturer : SamsungModel : M3 78T5663QZ3-CF7Type : 2GB DIMM DDR2Technology : 16x(128Mx8)Speed : PC2-6400U DDR2-800Standard Timings : 5-6-6-18 3-24-6-3Version : 1.02Date of Manufacture : 03 September 2009Memory DC Line : 1.80VTiming @ 400MHz : 5-6-6-18 3-24-6-3Timing @ 333MHz : 4-5-5-15 3-20-5-3Memory ModuleManufacturer : SamsungModel : M3 78T5663QZ3-CF7Type : 2GB DIMM DDR2Technology : 16x(128Mx8)Speed : PC2-6400U DDR2-800Standard Timings : 5-6-6-18 3-24-6-3Version : 1.02Date of Manufacture : 03 September 2009Memory DC Line : 1.80VTiming @ 400MHz : 5-6-6-18 3-24-6-3Timing @ 333MHz : 4-5-5-15 3-20-5-3Environment Sensors 1Model : Intel Core CPU [P0, C4, T100]Version : 23.10Mainboard Specific Support : NoTemperature Sensor(s)CPU 1 Temperature : 36.00°C tdSystem Bus(es) on Hub 1Version : 2.30System Bus 0 : PCISystem Bus 1 : PCISystem Bus 2 : PCIe 1.00 x16 2.5GbpsSystem Bus 3 : PCIe 1.00 x1 2.5GbpsSystem Bus 4 : PCIe 1.00 x1 2.5GbpsLPC Hub Controller 1Model : MSI MCP73 LPC BridgeOEM Device Name : nVidia MCP73 LPC BridgeRevision : K3ACPI Power Management : YesACPI Power Management Enabled : NoLPC Legacy Controller 1Type : Fintek F71882FG/F71883FGVersion : 0.41Number of Enabled Devices : 12Disk ControllerModel : MSI GeForce 7100/nForce 630iOEM Device Name : nVidia GeForce 7100/nForce 630iInterface : SATARevision : K3Specification : 1.10Maximum SATA Mode : G2 / SATA300Channels : 4In Use Channels : 2Port : G2 / SATA300Port : G1 / SATA150Audio DeviceModel : MSI MCP73 High Definition AudioOEM Device Name : nVidia MCP73 High Definition AudioRevision : K2Type : HD (High-Definition) AudioVersion : 1.00Number of In / Out / Bi-Directional Streams : 4 / 4 / 0Number of Serial Data Streams : 1Audio CodecModel : Realtek Semiconductor 888 High Definition AudioRevision : A2Version : 1.00Audio Channels : 14Audio DeviceModel : PC Partner Sapphire HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E Dual Slot FansinkOEM Device Name : ATI (AMD) HD48x0 audioRevision : A1Type : HD (High-Definition) AudioVersion : 1.00Number of In / Out / Bi-Directional Streams : 0 / 1 / 0Number of Serial Data Streams : 1Audio CodecModel : ATI (AMD) AA01hRevision : A1Version : 1.00Audio Channels : 2USB Controller 1Model : MSI GeForce 7100/nForce 630iOEM Device Name : nVidia GeForce 7100/nForce 630iRevision : K2Version : 1.00Interface : OHCIChannels : 10Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps) Legacy Emulation Enabled : NoUSB Controller 2Model : MSI GeForce 7100/nForce 630iOEM Device Name : nVidia GeForce 7100/nForce 630iRevision : K2Version : 2.00Specification : 1.00Interface : EHCIChannels : 10Companion Controllers : 1Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps) High (480Mbps) Addressing Support : 64-bitLegacy Emulation Enabled : NoFireWire/1394 Controller 1Model : 1396 VT6306 VIA Fire II IEEE-1394 OHCI Link Layer ControllerOEM Device Name : VIA VT6306 VIA Fire II IEEE-1394 OHCI Link Layer ControllerRevision : M1Version : 1.10Interface : OHCIEnhanced Support : NoSpeed : 400MHzSMBus/i2c Controller 1Model : nVidia MCP5+ SMBus 1Version : A.01Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : NoSlave Device Enabled : NoPEC Support : NoSMBus/i2c Controller 2Model : nVidia MCP5+ SMBus 2Version : A.01Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : NoSlave Device Enabled : NoPEC Support : NoExpansion Slot(s)PCI1 (1h) : PCI 32-bit +3.3V Shared PME Half-Length UsedPCI2 (2h) : PCI 32-bit +3.3V Shared PME Half-Length AvailablePort Connector(s)J1A1 - NULL : MouseJ1A1 - NULL : KeyboardJ2A2 - USB1 : USB / USBJ2A2 - USB2 : USB / USBJ4A1 - NULL : Parallel Port ECP/EPPJ2A1 - NULL : Serial Port 16550AJ6A1 - Audio Mic In : Audio / Mini-jackJ6A1 - Audio Line In : Audio / Mini-jackJ6B1 - AUX IN : Audio / CD-ROM Sound InputJ6B2 - CDIN : Audio / CD-ROM Sound InputJ6J2 - PRI IDE : ATAJ6J1 - SEC IDE : ATAJ4J1 - FLOPPY : Floppy DiskJ9H1 - FRONT PNL : 9 Pin Dual InlineJ1B1 - CHASSIS REAR FAN : NoneJ2F1 - CPU FAN : NoneJ8B4 - FRONT FAN : NoneJ9G2 - FNT USB : NoneJ6C3 - FP AUD : NoneJ9G1 - CONFIG : NoneJ8C1 - SCSI LED : NoneJ9J2 - INTRUDER : NoneJ9G4 - ITP : NoneJ2H1 - MAIN POWER : NonePerformance TipsNotice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.Warning 2507 : Mainboard has too few memory slots. Upgrading the memory may be difficult or expensive.Warning 2508 : All memory slots are full. Upgrading the memory may be difficult or expensive.Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.

If you have a clue what we are talking about and are interested in it ,then this is probably not the computer for you .lol

Oops - edited to remove the serials :-D

Soulreape;8246520

Dont buy this thinking you can upgrade it, and even though it has all … Dont buy this thinking you can upgrade it, and even though it has all singing all dancing headlines "quad core" and "4850" The mobo is probably dire, the PSU will be bare minimum if anything, the throughput from processor and memory will probably be crippled, will require a new mobo and probably case and PSU to get the most from it, then you have lost your OS licence also as OEM OS are licenced to the MOBO, good for what it is, but dont expect the best. I would wager that it is less than the sum of all of its parts.



The point is you don't and will not need to upgrade .Its a through away price.Try and duplicate what you get for the price then ,consider it a challenge.

double post

How does this compare to this one, similar spec but with Windows 7 Premium?

buyit247.com/esp…ail

MrShed;8246391

Enlighten you as to what? Ask away....Bear in mind that as good as the … Enlighten you as to what? Ask away....Bear in mind that as good as the i5/i7 ranges are, they are overkill for most users - quad core will fly through all games currently available, as well as processor intensive apps, and that will remain the case for several years yet (I retired my faithful 4 year old dual core to get this PC, which still coped admirably with the latest games).



Last time this came up I nearly brought one but for a few remarks that stuck in my mind such as Fujitsu are not customer friendly, the white parts get dirty, no way to add extra RAM to take advantage of W7 64bit, etc, etc. My main concerns are overall quality of components, noise and ability to play occasional hardware intensive game now or that may appear couple of months down the road.

Cheddar;8246568

How does this compare to this … How does this compare to this one?http://www.buyit247.com/esp-p1500-c2q-q8300-2x2gb-nvidia-gt220-lp-bd-combo-1000gb-w7prem64.html?utm_source=buyit247.com&utm_campaign=37f2a963db-Powerhouse3_12_2010&utm_medium=email



4850 will run all over that 220... It's not even gonna be funny lol.

This is definitely great value - but for me if each core runs at 2.33Ghz, in single threaded apps that's not much. Part of the beauty of C2 back then was its great overclockability. Even so it needs a half decent MB at least.

I made the mistake of owning cheap MB +E6300 already, with intention of OCing it way higher, but the bubble burst, need decent memory and MB to do that...

Cheddar;8246568

How does this compare to this one, similar spec but with Windows 7 … How does this compare to this one, similar spec but with Windows 7 Premium?http://www.buyit247.com/esp-p1500-c2q-q8300-2x2gb-nvidia-gt220-lp-bd-combo-1000gb-w7prem64.html?utm_source=buyit247.com&utm_campaign=37f2a963db-Powerhouse3_12_2010&utm_medium=email



Graphics card well over twice the speed than the one you looking at and the rest about on par.

Cannot see an option to upgrade to Windows 7?

Okie dokie.

- I work as a computer engineer, and in my experience, Fujitsu are generally pretty good at CS (used to have to deal with them on a daily basis). Certainly there are some horror stories, but the same goes for most manufacturers, and certainly online retailers of components.
- White parts getting dirty - certainly hasnt been an issue for me as of yet (purchased in Jan).
- RAM increase would indeed be tricky - there are only 2 DIMM slots and both are used (2x2GB). You could however replace both modules, as the mobo supports up to 16GB. 4GB is more than enough for the vast majority of uses though.
- I've been playing Arkham Asylum on full settings recently, and it performs with no issues whatsoever. Same for Just Cause 2.
- Noise - its virtually silent at low draw. Gets a little noisier when playing a game, but not loads.
- Component quality I cant comment on too much - but it has a warranty.

Hope that helps a bit.

geezer466;8246641

Cannot see an option to upgrade to Windows 7?



The upgrade expired end of Jan I believe.

The reason I'm kinda nitpicking about the cpu, is that my office has standard Q9550, paying something of lesser spec doesn't make sense. However, I guess most aren't as lucky, and this is a damn good piece of hardware for the bucks.

Mighty Anorak;8246595

Last time this came up I nearly brought one but for a few remarks that … Last time this came up I nearly brought one but for a few remarks that stuck in my mind such as Fujitsu are not customer friendly, the white parts get dirty, no way to add extra RAM to take advantage of W7 64bit, etc, etc. My main concerns are overall quality of components, noise and ability to play occasional hardware intensive game now or that may appear couple of months down the road.


4gb more than enough and it can be upgraded to 8/16gb if needed. Games wise all I can say is that in my experience this will be able to play most if not all games in some form for the next 3+ years .I can back this theory up.This is around 3x faster than a PS3 but don't let that fool you as a PS3 is a gaming system and the games are highly optimised for it ,that said that is part of my theory as to why it will be fine for the foreseeable future .

MrShed;8246644

Okie dokie.- I work as a computer engineer, and in my experience, Fujitsu … Okie dokie.- I work as a computer engineer, and in my experience, Fujitsu are generally pretty good at CS (used to have to deal with them on a daily basis). Certainly there are some horror stories, but the same goes for most manufacturers, and certainly online retailers of components.- White parts getting dirty - certainly hasnt been an issue for me as of yet (purchased in Jan).- RAM increase would indeed be tricky - there are only 2 DIMM slots and both are used (2x2GB). You could however replace both modules, as the mobo supports up to 16GB. 4GB is more than enough for the vast majority of uses though.- I've been playing Arkham Asylum on full settings recently, and it performs with no issues whatsoever. Same for Just Cause 2.- Noise - its virtually silent at low draw. Gets a little noisier when playing a game, but not loads.- Component quality I cant comment on too much - but it has a warranty.Hope that helps a bit.



Console ports Arkham Asylum and Just Cause 2 aren't exactly great benchmarks, considering this costs almost 4 times as much as an Xbox. Stick something like Crysis in it and see how it runs at 1080p on High Settings.

Its quiet because its not really powering anything worthwhile.

Its a micro ATX case, which means if you want to upgrade in the future you are going to have to buy new motherboard and PSU, or be very limited in your options. And the motherboard that is in it is awful.

If you have any kind of ability and want to upgrade at any point, build your own, seriously, this may look all shiny and cheap and thats exactly what it is, shiny and cheap like Argos diamonte rings.

And I dont know of any decent company that uses Fujitsu. Being a contractor I have been round a few companies.

Soulreape;8246718

Console ports Arkham Asylum and Just Cause 2 aren't exactly great … Console ports Arkham Asylum and Just Cause 2 aren't exactly great benchmarks, considering this costs almost 4 times as much as an Xbox. Stick something like Crysis in it and see how it runs at 1080p on High Settings.



I realise that, but I'm just giving an example of what I have tried.

A ridiculous statement to even comment on the price compared to an Xbox though, and you know it.


Its quiet because its not really powering anything worthwhile.



Hmmm...

Its a micro ATX case, which means if you want to upgrade in the future … Its a micro ATX case, which means if you want to upgrade in the future you are going to have to buy new motherboard and PSU, or be very limited in your options. And the motherboard that is in it is awful.



I dont believe it is a micro ATX case....

If you have any kind of ability and want to upgrade at any point, build … If you have any kind of ability and want to upgrade at any point, build your own, seriously, this may look all shiny and cheap and thats exactly what it is, shiny and cheap like Argos diamonte rings.



Thats not entirely true is it.

As stated above, it ISNT a high end gaming rig, it is what it is.

But SOME of the components certainly are high end - basically you are complaining about the mobo, PSU and perhaps the RAM. None of which are high end, but work - and work well.

And I dont know of any decent company that uses Fujitsu. Being a … And I dont know of any decent company that uses Fujitsu. Being a contractor I have been round a few companies.



Well, I know of quite a few, having been in the same boat.

You are entitled to your opinion, as we all are - but dont state it as fact when it is an opinion!

Soulreape;8246718

Console ports Arkham Asylum and Just Cause 2 aren't exactly great … Console ports Arkham Asylum and Just Cause 2 aren't exactly great benchmarks, considering this costs almost 4 times as much as an Xbox. Stick something like Crysis in it and see how it runs at 1080p on High Settings.Its quiet because its not really powering anything worthwhile.Its a micro ATX case, which means if you want to upgrade in the future you are going to have to buy new motherboard and PSU, or be very limited in your options. And the motherboard that is in it is awful.If you have any kind of ability and want to upgrade at any point, build your own, seriously, this may look all shiny and cheap and thats exactly what it is, shiny and cheap like Argos diamonte rings.And I dont know of any decent company that uses Fujitsu. Being a contractor I have been round a few companies.



You are missing the point it's £388 and a PC.To play the game at that res you just mentioned which is PC only so cannot be directly compared to a x360 or ps3, you would need a £300+ graphics card alone .The two games mentioned are perfect games for comparison ,you can play both at higher game settings and res than a 360 or a PS3.

And, I would invite you to build the same machine with components for anywhere near the same price....

Its not the best machine, but its not as expensive as better either! Its a lot of bang for your buck.

This is great value. The components may be a couple of years old but can still run modern games on high settings so that should give you an indication how overkill it is for your average user. Add-in the fact that it has a blu-ray reader, is less than £400 and quiet (according to someone else in this thread) and it's a great purchase.

To build the same system yourself you'd probably be looking at more than the cost of this (approximates):

cpu - £110
gpu - £70
ram - £40
motherboard - £30
hdd - £60
blu-ray - £50
case/psu - £20 *(wouldn't be good but probably on par with what you're getting here)

That doesn't include a keyboard/mouse, power cable or operating system.
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