3D Printer Kit 220x220x200mm Printing Size Support Off-line Print With Dual Fans 1.75mm 0.4mm £139 @ Banggood
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3D Printer Kit 220x220x200mm Printing Size Support Off-line Print With Dual Fans 1.75mm 0.4mm £139 @ Banggood

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Found 6th Jan
3D Printer TRONXY® X8 Desktop DIY Kit 220x220x200mm Printing Size Support Off-line Print With Dual Fans 1.75mm 0.4mm Nozzle

139gbp, expedited delivery within 5-8 days for 1,94 gbp

Supports off-line printing, especially convenient when without the computer
- Dual fans design, for more cooling effect
- 220 x 220 x 200mm build volume
- High axis positioning accuracy
- Enhanced stability and reliability
- High-quality linear bearing system
- Simple control system, easily accessible adjust the printing speed at any time
- Fully compatible with the market PLA / ABS / HIPS / Wood / PC / PVC fiber
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If you're not an electrician and don't feel confident replacing wiring or installing some other bits of hardware, don't buy this.

For it to be reasonably safe you'll need to install a mosfet, and replace the wiring with better quality wiring, solder the components to make up for the cheap parts used that frequently burn out.

After you've done all that, there's still risks of other parts going wrong, and the money you save by getting a cheap chinese clone will be lost when (not if) it starts a fire. Maybe you'll be lucky and a part will just burn out, but no amount of money is worth risking your life or home with these fire hazards.

I've been part of a lot of these community groups, and the frequency I see users post about waking up, coming home from work, smelling smoke upstairs to find that something went wrong with it is scary.

These things are dangerous, if you want to experiment with this hobby get one from a genuine manufacturer (some of which are from china as well! They aren't all bad). For a bit more you can get the monoprice mini (which still requires a mosfet but would still be safer than this).
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do you think these were used to make the rabbit vibrator posted earlier today?
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teame.trevski1 m ago

do you think these were used to make the rabbit vibrator posted earlier …do you think these were used to make the rabbit vibrator posted earlier today?


Most likely :P
The price places it just above the UK import duty threshold of £136, so you might get stung for import duty as well as VAT.

If you choose EMS you WILL get stung for VAT.

Something odd; for most postal services, the Duty value is based on the purchase price alone, but HMRC website specifically mentions that EMS postal costs are included in the valuation; taking a lot of packages over the £136 threshold.

My parcel value was £101, plus £36 postage via EMS; taking me £1 over the threshold and costing me £52 in duty, VAT and handling charges.

NOT a happy bunny.
Not a particularly good deaI is a typical Prussa i3 clone of which there are plenty on fleabay around this price which are already in this country thus avoiding the possibility of import tax/handling VAT etc (the robbing bar stewards)
teame.trevski14 m ago

do you think these were used to make the rabbit vibrator posted earlier …do you think these were used to make the rabbit vibrator posted earlier today?


No, the Rabbits posted earlier were made by daddy bunny and mummy bunny
Gentle_Giant15 m ago

The price places it just above the UK import duty threshold of £136, so …The price places it just above the UK import duty threshold of £136, so you might get stung for import duty as well as VAT.If you choose EMS you WILL get stung for VAT.Something odd; for most postal services, the Duty value is based on the purchase price alone, but HMRC website specifically mentions that EMS postal costs are included in the valuation; taking a lot of packages over the £136 threshold.My parcel value was £101, plus £36 postage via EMS; taking me £1 over the threshold and costing me £52 in duty, VAT and handling charges.NOT a happy bunny.


vat threshhold is £18 for imports
The price on which duty and VAT is based is purchase price PLUS shipping cost. They are UK Customs rules. They are also the rules in most non-EU countries we ship to.
If you're not an electrician and don't feel confident replacing wiring or installing some other bits of hardware, don't buy this.

For it to be reasonably safe you'll need to install a mosfet, and replace the wiring with better quality wiring, solder the components to make up for the cheap parts used that frequently burn out.

After you've done all that, there's still risks of other parts going wrong, and the money you save by getting a cheap chinese clone will be lost when (not if) it starts a fire. Maybe you'll be lucky and a part will just burn out, but no amount of money is worth risking your life or home with these fire hazards.

I've been part of a lot of these community groups, and the frequency I see users post about waking up, coming home from work, smelling smoke upstairs to find that something went wrong with it is scary.

These things are dangerous, if you want to experiment with this hobby get one from a genuine manufacturer (some of which are from china as well! They aren't all bad). For a bit more you can get the monoprice mini (which still requires a mosfet but would still be safer than this).
Would you risk a delicate item like this being sent to you from China - I wouldn't.
Bilbo19681 h, 3 m ago

Would you risk a delicate item like this being sent to you from China - I …Would you risk a delicate item like this being sent to you from China - I wouldn't.


Its not delicate as it is a well packaged kit that will take a good 8 hours to assemble
Gentle_Giant1 h, 33 m ago

The price places it just above the UK import duty threshold of £136, so …The price places it just above the UK import duty threshold of £136, so you might get stung for import duty as well as VAT.If you choose EMS you WILL get stung for VAT.Something odd; for most postal services, the Duty value is based on the purchase price alone, but HMRC website specifically mentions that EMS postal costs are included in the valuation; taking a lot of packages over the £136 threshold.My parcel value was £101, plus £36 postage via EMS; taking me £1 over the threshold and costing me £52 in duty, VAT and handling charges.NOT a happy bunny.


I thought it was over £18 for vat! Is there a webpage that shows this please?
teame.trevski3 h, 32 m ago

vat threshhold is £18 for imports



Actually, the VAT threshold was quietly lowered to £15 over a year ago. HMRC

No, I am talking about import duty, where a fee is charged (and VAT added to it!!) for bringing higher value items into the UK. The actual fee is a percentage based on the tariff charts kept by HMRC, the problem being it is almost impossible for a non expert to work them out unless you have the exact HMRC product code.

If my parcel had been valued at £135 including postage, I would have paid £27 in VAT + £10.50 handling fee; as it was £1 over, I paid just over £40 in duty and VAT charges, + £10.50 handling fee.

Many items are duty rated at 0 - 5%, but some are rated at 50 -100%. If you dont realise the item you are buying is rated at 100%, the bill can be a bit of a shock. £136 value, plus £136 duty, plus 20% VAT = £326.40.

See the HMRC link above, and scroll down the page a bit.

Now, I am not saying 3D printers are rated at this, just that people be aware that they may face a much higher cost than expected.
CJ10453 h, 34 m ago

The price on which duty and VAT is based is purchase price PLUS shipping …The price on which duty and VAT is based is purchase price PLUS shipping cost. They are UK Customs rules. They are also the rules in most non-EU countries we ship to.



Not according the the HMRC website, parcel value + postage = Duty value only applies to certain carriers. I already knew this because I take custody of low value parcels that cost a bomb to post from China - and dont pay any VAT or duty on them, even though the shipping cost is over £100.
(The guy could save a fortune shipping it by boat and planning 3 months ahead, but he leaves it until the last minute and ships large volume, low weight and value parcels by air).
I have bought loads of things from the Chinese sites and was not charged a single penny in extra import/tax duty fees.Most recently was a Xaiomi Mi drone , over 300 notes , no duty . Previous items a few years ago was a xK Detect Drone ,over 200 notes , no import duties. I now use Aliexpress for most items and again never get stung with import duties.
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Epailes16 h, 12 m ago

If you're not an electrician and don't feel confident replacing wiring or …If you're not an electrician and don't feel confident replacing wiring or installing some other bits of hardware, don't buy this.For it to be reasonably safe you'll need to install a mosfet, and replace the wiring with better quality wiring, solder the components to make up for the cheap parts used that frequently burn out.After you've done all that, there's still risks of other parts going wrong, and the money you save by getting a cheap chinese clone will be lost when (not if) it starts a fire. Maybe you'll be lucky and a part will just burn out, but no amount of money is worth risking your life or home with these fire hazards.I've been part of a lot of these community groups, and the frequency I see users post about waking up, coming home from work, smelling smoke upstairs to find that something went wrong with it is scary.These things are dangerous, if you want to experiment with this hobby get one from a genuine manufacturer (some of which are from china as well! They aren't all bad). For a bit more you can get the monoprice mini (which still requires a mosfet but would still be safer than this).


Jesus Lord there's a fire!
Epailes6th Jan

If you're not an electrician and don't feel confident replacing wiring or …If you're not an electrician and don't feel confident replacing wiring or installing some other bits of hardware, don't buy this.For it to be reasonably safe you'll need to install a mosfet, and replace the wiring with better quality wiring, solder the components to make up for the cheap parts used that frequently burn out.After you've done all that, there's still risks of other parts going wrong, and the money you save by getting a cheap chinese clone will be lost when (not if) it starts a fire. Maybe you'll be lucky and a part will just burn out, but no amount of money is worth risking your life or home with these fire hazards.I've been part of a lot of these community groups, and the frequency I see users post about waking up, coming home from work, smelling smoke upstairs to find that something went wrong with it is scary.These things are dangerous, if you want to experiment with this hobby get one from a genuine manufacturer (some of which are from china as well! They aren't all bad). For a bit more you can get the monoprice mini (which still requires a mosfet but would still be safer than this).


Had mine for over 8 months. It's completely stock apart from a "Z" axis sensor, so it will automatically level the bed. Printed hundreds of items, with absolutely no issues what so ever. Half the people you hear with the horror stories can't have put it together correctly in the first place (Darwin at work).

So keep you frock on, and stop being such a drama queen.
Orbital21 h, 50 m ago

Had mine for over 8 months. It's completely stock apart from a "Z" axis …Had mine for over 8 months. It's completely stock apart from a "Z" axis sensor, so it will automatically level the bed. Printed hundreds of items, with absolutely no issues what so ever. Half the people you hear with the horror stories can't have put it together correctly in the first place (Darwin at work). So keep you frock on, and stop being such a drama queen.


"Darwin at work" Normal people won't even know if they've made a mistake, that's a bit of a nonchalant attitude to have for the potential for rooms to catch fire.

From my time it seems like 99.9% of them are fine, but 0.1% is too high a failure rate when it comes to fire.
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