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3TB HGST Deskstar NAS 3.5" HDD, SATA III 6Gb/s, 7200rpm, 64MB Cache
3TB HGST Deskstar NAS 3.5" HDD, SATA III 6Gb/s, 7200rpm, 64MB Cache

3TB HGST Deskstar NAS 3.5" HDD, SATA III 6Gb/s, 7200rpm, 64MB Cache

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Currently selling for £101.16 at Scan - has been over a £100 for past few months at Amazon

Personally prefer Hitachi Deskstar NAS over the WD Red NAS drives - this will be my 3rd Deskstar NAS drive. Have owned 1TB and 2TB - never failed so far - just ran out disk space!

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Original Poster

Online backup company Backblaze recently published their real life hard drive failure rates from their data farm.

At the time of the report September 2014 they had 34,881 drives used to store over 100 petabytes of data

backblaze.com/blo…14/

Makes interesting reading and Hitachi HGST come out on top so far by a considerable margin.

Great drive, great price. Heat added

any idea on the warranty? Doesnt look OEM.
hgst.com/har…kit
says 3 years?

HOT! Must. Resist.

Good deal!

Heat added.
Just when my WD drive is due for delivery

HGST drives are reliable and have really good performance vs other comparable drives

I've owned three of these drives and two have been faulty out the box. Should rename it the deathstar

wilson650

I've owned three of these drives and two have been faulty out the box. … I've owned three of these drives and two have been faulty out the box. Should rename it the deathstar


verry droll

- was that true, or just for comedic effect?

I have had a faulty-on-arrival hgst drive.

Are these noisy as hell?

harry66

Makes interesting reading and Hitachi HGST come out on top so far by a … Makes interesting reading and Hitachi HGST come out on top so far by a considerable margin.


The following article is quite interesting too...

hardware.fr/art…tml

JoeSpur

Are these noisy as hell?


Can't comment on this particular model, but HGST drives generally have high vibration:
silentpcreview.com/art…tml
They'll also be louder than, say, a WD RED because these are 7200 rpm drives and the REDs are 5900rpm.

DonP

Can't comment on this particular model, but HGST drives generally have … Can't comment on this particular model, but HGST drives generally have high vibration:http://www.silentpcreview.com/article29-page2.htmlThey'll also be louder than, say, a WD RED because these are 7200 rpm drives and the REDs are 5900rpm.


Not a good choice for a HP MicroServer then...

JoeSpur

Not a good choice for a HP MicroServer then...


Exactly what i was thinking. I'm tempted by the reliability of the HGST drives so if I were building a NAS for a machine room then I'd go for them (although it doesn't say anywhere whether this high reliability applies to this line of drives) .
But since I'm building a FreeNAS N54L for a SOHO and later a DS380 or a node 304, I'll probably go for the WD REDs.
I RAID-Z2 and off-site backup, so REDs should be ok.

A really great drive for the price and only slightly 'nosier' than than 3TB WD reds we use.

Just for the love of god I implore everyone who might be reading this post to make sure you NEVER EVER buy and use a Seagate ST3000DM001 3TB drive for valuable data storage. Out of 500 Seagate 3TB drives that we fitted 67% of those drives failed and had to be returned in under 12 months I kid you not!! Okay they were the cheapest drives available at the time and Seagate used to be a good known reliable brand but after our experiences with them you very quickly learn why they dropped their warranty from 5 years down to just 1!

As I specify to customers daily, save yourself the stress and heartache and stick with hard drives made by Western Digital, Toshiba or HGST.

If you value your data spend that little bit extra and even though it's a lottery the chances are these brands will last a lot longer than anything made by Seagate.

Edited by: "mumjit" 14th Dec 2014

how does this compre to

how does this compare to WD my cloud 3tb? looking for NAS to back up my home PC and mobile devices. any suggestions greatly appreciated

Original Poster

deal_grabber

how does this compare to WD my cloud 3tb? looking for NAS to back up my … how does this compare to WD my cloud 3tb? looking for NAS to back up my home PC and mobile devices. any suggestions greatly appreciated


This is just a bare hard drive - albeit optimised for use in NAS devices. The My Cloud is a basic NAS unit with built in Hard drive.
You would need to buy a separate NAS unit to fit this Hitachi drive into.
If you want basic NAS features then the My Cloud maybe ok - although they tend to get loads of negative reviews on Amazon etc.
If you prefer something more featured and upgradable then invest in a separate NAS unit from Qnap, Synology etc.
I personally have a Qnap TS119+ which I have been using for a few years, currently fitted with a 2TB Hitachi which I will replace with one of these 3TB.

mumjit

As I specify to customers daily, save yourself the stress and heartache … As I specify to customers daily, save yourself the stress and heartache and stick with hard drives made by Western Digital, Toshiba or HGST.


I have never had a hard drive break my heart. X)

Buying HDDs from one of the three makes you mentioned doesn't mean that people can get complacent regarding backups though.
Edited by: "aceuk" 14th Dec 2014

HGST drives are absolute rubbish, I've no idea where this brand of drives has come from but I would waste my money. I repair computers and I've got a growing stack of failed drives I've had to replace for people. in my experience, Samsung are the most reliable drives, but, they also cost a lot more. I guess you get what you pay for.

good find though, sadly I will have to give it a miss.

GazmoSpazmo

HGST drives are absolute rubbish, I've no idea where this brand of drives … HGST drives are absolute rubbish, I've no idea where this brand of drives has come from but I would waste my money. I repair computers and I've got a growing stack of failed drives I've had to replace for people. in my experience, Samsung are the most reliable drives, but, they also cost a lot more. I guess you get what you pay for.good find though, sadly I will have to give it a miss.

I have exactly the opposite observation from the past 10+ years, when hgst were IBM with the only exception for the infamous deadstar series. Given a choice, I'd always pick HGST, then Samsung if can find any, then Toshiba which now is actually HGST in the large capacities. Seagate is a 100% no-no, have had so many failed (ata,sata,sas) that I wondwr how this brand is still on the market, currently having 2 x 3 TB the same model mentioned above in raid 1 failed at the same time in data recovery company truing to recover what's possible for some good £££.

mumjit

As I specify to customers daily, save yourself the stress and heartache … As I specify to customers daily, save yourself the stress and heartache and stick with hard drives made by Western Digital, Toshiba or HGST.


WD had some really bad drives in the past that caused incredible headaches, wasted time and stress for their users. Their customer support was also rubbish and would not fix the issue properly.

I have one of the older, but still infamous WD15EADS-00P8B0 drives (WD 1.5TB Green). They occasionally slow down to 100kb/s (!) read/write speed and freeze the OS, making the whole system unusable. It's a known problem of the whole drive revision and affects many customers (WD forum). WD did not care. They did not even admit their fault.

They offered some customers the SAME drive with the same problem as replacement. How bad is that? Others got a working replacement. I didn't figure out that the freezes were due to the drive until it was way too late. I used it as an external drive, so it didn't show up as prevalently. It was a headache to debug when I tried to use it as an OS drive.

I am now committed to never buy a drive from WD again, particularly as their customer support was so bad. I have the drive posted here and it performs nicely so far.

Original Poster

NorthLondonN1

£77.99 on novatech.co.uk … £77.99 on novatech.co.uk http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/harddrives-internal/sata3tbto4tb/Hitachi/HDS723030ALA640.html?#utm_source=affiliatewindow&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=PCPartPicker



That looks like the non NAS version.

Original Poster

jomay

WD had some really bad drives in the past that caused incredible … WD had some really bad drives in the past that caused incredible headaches, wasted time and stress for their users. Their customer support was also rubbish and would not fix the issue properly.I have one of the older, but still infamous WD15EADS-00P8B0 drives (WD 1.5TB Green). They occasionally slow down to 100kb/s (!) read/write speed and freeze the OS, making the whole system unusable. It's a known problem of the whole drive revision and affects many customers (WD forum). WD did not care. They did not even admit their fault.They offered some customers the SAME drive with the same problem as replacement. How bad is that? Others got a working replacement. I didn't figure out that the freezes were due to the drive until it was way too late. I used it as an external drive, so it didn't show up as prevalently. It was a headache to debug when I tried to use it as an OS drive.I am now committed to never buy a drive from WD again, particularly as their customer support was so bad. I have the drive posted here and it performs nicely so far.



Have had WD and Seagate drives fail on me several times over the years - never had a Deskstar or Travelstar fail on me yet.

harry66

That looks like the non NAS version.


The novatech drive is at least an OEM drive, whilst Amazon sells the retail package.

harry66

That looks like the non NAS version.



That's what I said in the other thread, but someone said it was, but I have since looked around the web, and this one the drive starts HDN, whereas the £77 one starts HDS. Looks like the HDS came out in 2011, while the HDN in 2014, and it even says here storagereview.com/hgs…iew that "The HGST Deskstar NAS is built on HGST’s 3.5-inch 7,200RPM Deskstar consumer drive platform". So they are different drives.

BTW, it's a fantastic price according to camel, they are usually more expensive than the WD Reds:
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Any idea how the HGST customer service compares to WD or Seagate in the UK, in the worst case that the drive fails and need a replacement

Original Poster

deepu25

Any idea how the HGST customer service compares to WD or Seagate in the … Any idea how the HGST customer service compares to WD or Seagate in the UK, in the worst case that the drive fails and need a replacement


With the WD Red - you can pay extra and get better warranty (check amazon for the different prices) - nothing similar on the HGST models. Cant comment on HGST turnaround times etc as I have never had to use the warranty.

Original Poster

Sold out from Amazon - next cheapest marketplace seller is £104.

What's the warranty on these - three years? The 7200rpm / 64MB version is £77.99 at Novatech, which still comes with two years' warranty. I used to buy cheap drives (mostly Seagate or Samsung) and thankfully they haven't failed yet, but I very much prefer the Toshiba / HGST drives for peace of mind. I've snagged three of the 3TB in various incarnations so far - could do with one more

harry66

Online backup company Backblaze recently published their real life hard … Online backup company Backblaze recently published their real life hard drive failure rates from their data farm.At the time of the report September 2014 they had 34,881 drives used to store over 100 petabytes of datahttps://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-update-september-2014/Makes interesting reading and Hitachi HGST come out on top so far by a considerable margin.



interesting stuff. so Hitachi seem to have improve massively

Back again at Amazon for pre-order at £85 delivered (£80 with the Mastercard £5 off PRICELES5 code)
"Back-ordered. Due in stock December 28 -- order now to reserve yours"
Edited by: "Offalot" 19th Dec 2014

Can't seem to get the code to work. PRICELES5, even though my MasterCard is being used. Can you use the code only once? As I have already purchased thru amazon with the code.

Bought 4 3tb drivers 2 doa went back to wd red 3tb working brill

This is now £104.34 on Amazon
Edited by: "avalon50" 20th Dec 2014

Original Poster

avalon50

This is now £104.34 on Amazon


That is from a marketplace seller.
The Amazon price is £85 but due back in stock 28th December (see the prices down the right hand side).

I got mine the other day, left my Qnap syncing my old 2TB for approx 36hrs and now the 3TB is swapped in.
Working Well!!
Edited by: "harry66" 21st Dec 2014
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