4TB Western Digital WD40EFRX NASware 3.0 Internal Hard Drive £102.78 Sold by MercadoActual and Fulfilled by Amazon
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4TB Western Digital WD40EFRX NASware 3.0 Internal Hard Drive £102.78 Sold by MercadoActual and Fulfilled by Amazon

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Posted 3rd NovEdited by:"mihaiboc"
A very good drive for NAS and it's a cheepest it's ever been
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4gb?... what’s so special about it?
ourdevonfamily03/11/2019 20:24

4gb?... what’s so special about it?


Oh, it’s a typo... might want to change that to 4tb
This vs this?
anony_mous03/11/2019 20:52

This vs this?



To be honest I'm more a WD fan so I'm not the right person to ask
Decent price for not having to shuck.

I’m after bigger now as I’ve been using 4s in my server for the pst 8 years.
mihaiboc03/11/2019 21:01

To be honest I'm more a WD fan so I'm not the right person to ask


Same here.. team WD!
Maybe, but it's just not big enough for today.
If you have four sata conectors that's only going to give you 8 terabytes if mirrored which I think is small considering we are in the age of 4K films for instance.
A 4K film would be about 100GB in reasonable quality
I've got two 3TB drives in my NAS, a WD green and a Seagate I shucked from an external USB drive. It's been running fine for years, but a couple of weeks ago, the Seagate got a "failing" status. It's got 17000 bad sectors apparently. Is that a lot ?
I'm tempted to hold out and see what deals there are on black Friday.
Thanks OP bought it despite both my 4Tb WD Red drives failing within weeks of eachother on my Synology NAS.
neversay03/11/2019 21:47

Thanks OP bought it despite both my 4Tb WD Red drives failing within weeks …Thanks OP bought it despite both my 4Tb WD Red drives failing within weeks of eachother on my Synology NAS.


Wow... Power supply issue?.. it's too coincidental...
Sparco03/11/2019 21:41

I've got two 3TB drives in my NAS, a WD green and a Seagate I shucked from …I've got two 3TB drives in my NAS, a WD green and a Seagate I shucked from an external USB drive. It's been running fine for years, but a couple of weeks ago, the Seagate got a "failing" status. It's got 17000 bad sectors apparently. Is that a lot ?I'm tempted to hold out and see what deals there are on black Friday.


"Is 17000 bad sectors a lot?"
Edited by: "fishmaster" 3rd Nov
Both WD red and Ironwolf are decent drives. I think the Ironwolf has slightly longer spec average failure rate than The reds. I have 4 8tb Ironwolf in my NAS and it’s been nearly 4 years no issues.

But I am surprised about the HDD prices, my 8TB were £120 each at the time from ebuyer. How on earth has HDD gone up I prices....
RickyWong04/11/2019 00:44

Both WD red and Ironwolf are decent drives. I think the Ironwolf has …Both WD red and Ironwolf are decent drives. I think the Ironwolf has slightly longer spec average failure rate than The reds. I have 4 8tb Ironwolf in my NAS and it’s been nearly 4 years no issues.But I am surprised about the HDD prices, my 8TB were £120 each at the time from ebuyer. How on earth has HDD gone up I prices....


I think it's down to HDD's being comparatively more complex and expensive to manufacture compared to SSD's.
There's a lot more going on in a hard drive, the tolerances are incredible and a hard drive itself is made of a lot of raw material.

HDD's never seem to drop in price or follow Moor's Law in any way. 1TB-8TB have been at the same price point for many years now.
Whenever a new capacity is unveiled/released it doesn't knock a drive off it's price point like we get with other computer components, instead it just seems to be added to the lineup at a proportionate increase in price.
Everything from 1TB - 16TB seems to co-exist in the marketplace simultaneously and every year the family just keeps on growing.

Give it a few more years and SSD's will be able to challenge HDD's in £/GB.
Edited by: "FireOnAWire" 4th Nov
jouster03/11/2019 21:08

Decent price for not having to shuck. I’m after bigger now as I’ve been usi …Decent price for not having to shuck. I’m after bigger now as I’ve been using 4s in my server for the pst 8 years.


In the same boat!.. 8tb's seem to have come down a bit but its still going to be a kick in the teeth when i have to upgrade.
Trying to decide what to do with the 4's I'll be replacing, do people actually buy used drives? can't imagine it would be worth the hassle
Zapp8rannigan04/11/2019 09:46

In the same boat!.. 8tb's seem to have come down a bit but its still going …In the same boat!.. 8tb's seem to have come down a bit but its still going to be a kick in the teeth when i have to upgrade. Trying to decide what to do with the 4's I'll be replacing, do people actually buy used drives? can't imagine it would be worth the hassle


I don’t buy used drives but I did buy a 10aTb drive recently and shuck it giving me a 10TB drive for £140 which is a bargain

Gives me 12TB spare for now but as I’ve started ripping my UHD discs to my media server that will soon get swallowed up (around 50-60 GB per remixed rip.

Never thought I’d actually fill 100TB but it won’t be long now
jasee03/11/2019 21:32

Maybe, but it's just not big enough for today. If you have four sata …Maybe, but it's just not big enough for today. If you have four sata conectors that's only going to give you 8 terabytes if mirrored which I think is small considering we are in the age of 4K films for instance.A 4K film would be about 100GB in reasonable quality


A ripped 4K film is generally no bigger than 50GB if remuxed.

But yes 4GB can quickly get swallowed up.

That said, for many, ripping and storing can be a bit of a chore and it’s probably cheaper in the long run and definitely simpler to stream unless you intend on continuously upgrading drives every couple of years.
I think you could always use an external hdd connected through the NAS’s usb3 ports for the 4k movies.


I tend to keep important documents and pictures on a RAID configuration to keep them safe and at the moment 4TB are enough at the moment for my needs.
FireOnAWire04/11/2019 01:25

I think it's down to HDD's being comparatively more complex and expensive …I think it's down to HDD's being comparatively more complex and expensive to manufacture compared to SSD's.There's a lot more going on in a hard drive, the tolerances are incredible and a hard drive itself is made of a lot of raw material.HDD's never seem to drop in price or follow Moor's Law in any way. 1TB-8TB have been at the same price point for many years now.Whenever a new capacity is unveiled/released it doesn't knock a drive off it's price point like we get with other computer components, instead it just seems to be added to the lineup at a proportionate increase in price.Everything from 1TB - 16TB seems to co-exist in the marketplace simultaneously and every year the family just keeps on growing.Give it a few more years and SSD's will be able to challenge HDD's in £/GB.


My point is how is 8TB drives more expensive than They were 3 years ago. HDD technology in that platter size has not changed for nearly a decade. So I am baffled why things got more expensive. The only thing that has changed is the £ has tanked a lot since 2015.
jouster04/11/2019 10:06

I don’t buy used drives but I did buy a 10aTb drive recently and shuck it g …I don’t buy used drives but I did buy a 10aTb drive recently and shuck it giving me a 10TB drive for £140 which is a bargain Gives me 12TB spare for now but as I’ve started ripping my UHD discs to my media server that will soon get swallowed up (around 50-60 GB per remixed rip. Never thought I’d actually fill 100TB but it won’t be long now


Yowsers I thought my hoarding was bad I'm around 30tb on my plex server but my case doesn't have anymore room for my drives so I'm going to need to upgrade my 4's slowly one by one.

I've not shucked a drive before but I guess that might be the cheapest option now
Zapp8rannigan04/11/2019 11:39

Yowsers I thought my hoarding was bad I'm around 30tb on my plex server …Yowsers I thought my hoarding was bad I'm around 30tb on my plex server but my case doesn't have anymore room for my drives so I'm going to need to upgrade my 4's slowly one by one.I've not shucked a drive before but I guess that might be the cheapest option now


Haha. Yes I don’t do things by halves.

Self built 24 bay case.

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4TB drives were not big enough for me years ago. I've got two sets of (was) 4*4 in two media servers. I went to 8s as I ran out of space on one. The other is full. I don't have any 4K films. Most are true HD. All the sofware I have used is on there. I've a subject library ofbbooks I've always been interested in. Lots of ex.kindle stuff. Spoken plays. Pop & classical music.
Always shucked drives. The break point is about £19 per Terabyte so actually these aren't particularly good value. There's a lot of nonsense I think talked about particular colours of WD drives, I think
Edited by: "jasee" 4th Nov
jouster04/11/2019 12:11

Haha. Yes I don’t do things by halves. Self built 24 bay case. [Image]



If these are lots of files and directories, it must take an ago to sort through them remotely?
jasee04/11/2019 12:44

If these are lots of files and directories, it must take an ago to sort …If these are lots of files and directories, it must take an ago to sort through them remotely?


???
jouster04/11/2019 12:45

???



Well are you mainly running a media server or are they just local storage?
jasee04/11/2019 12:47

Well are you mainly running a media server or are they just local storage?


Yes it’s media storage for inside the home only.

I have a Synology NAS with a smaller storage pool that I use for Plex streaming in and out of the home
jouster04/11/2019 12:50

Yes it’s media storage for inside the home only. I have a Synology NAS w …Yes it’s media storage for inside the home only. I have a Synology NAS with a smaller storage pool that I use for Plex streaming in and out of the home



Ok, well my local network is only megabit, so that probably explains my problem. I use Servio
jasee04/11/2019 13:01

Ok, well my local network is only megabit, so that probably explains my …Ok, well my local network is only megabit, so that probably explains my problem. I use Servio


Ah yes that would have a huge impact. My hole home is wired with gigabit cat6 so speeds internally are never an issue.

I can stream to about 8 devices at once if needed (unlikely)
jouster04/11/2019 13:02

Ah yes that would have a huge impact. My hole home is wired with gigabit …Ah yes that would have a huge impact. My hole home is wired with gigabit cat6 so speeds internally are never an issue. I can stream to about 8 devices at once if needed (unlikely)



I really need to sort things out here, I know. There will never be fiber to the house. So I have three adsl lines. THe best hope is 4G but I need an external aerial, I've got a cheap yagi coming from China! Worth a try
jasee04/11/2019 13:14

I really need to sort things out here, I know. There will never be fiber …I really need to sort things out here, I know. There will never be fiber to the house. So I have three adsl lines. THe best hope is 4G but I need an external aerial, I've got a cheap yagi coming from China! Worth a try


Yeah we’re in the sticks and FTTP seemed like a pipe dream. Apparently it’s being installed next year sometime but I went with a WiFi system and get 1GB OTA. Its amazing
jouster04/11/2019 13:49

Yeah we’re in the sticks and FTTP seemed like a pipe dream. Apparently i …Yeah we’re in the sticks and FTTP seemed like a pipe dream. Apparently it’s being installed next year sometime but I went with a WiFi system and get 1GB OTA. Its amazing



Well, in practice, my neighbour only gets about 20 megabits with 4G for about £30 a month and it's variable down. Apparently we're too near the tranmitter something to do with the mushroom effect. It is only about half a mile away. Fiber to the cabinet won't be good enough soon.for lots more people.
But it's ridiculous that the majority of the country is going to have to resort to wireless. It is, after all microwave radiation.
Sparco03/11/2019 21:41

I've got two 3TB drives in my NAS, a WD green and a Seagate I shucked from …I've got two 3TB drives in my NAS, a WD green and a Seagate I shucked from an external USB drive. It's been running fine for years, but a couple of weeks ago, the Seagate got a "failing" status. It's got 17000 bad sectors apparently. Is that a lot ?I'm tempted to hold out and see what deals there are on black Friday.


Had to pull the drive out today. NAS was extremely slow, I think it was stuck trying to test the Seagate.
Ordered a 6GB WD My Book for £106. I think it has a WD Blue in it which will be fine for my needs.
These were listed on here a few weeks ago under £100. I remember because I was concerned about the drives not having warranty
yogi65948504/11/2019 15:46

These were listed on here a few weeks ago under £100. I remember because I …These were listed on here a few weeks ago under £100. I remember because I was concerned about the drives not having warranty


I guess you can't remove it without damaging the case, so no warranty might be the price you pay.
Sparco04/11/2019 15:59

I guess you can't remove it without damaging the case, so no warranty …I guess you can't remove it without damaging the case, so no warranty might be the price you pay.


Aren’t these internal drives with no case?
jasee03/11/2019 21:32

Maybe, but it's just not big enough for today. If you have four sata …Maybe, but it's just not big enough for today. If you have four sata conectors that's only going to give you 8 terabytes if mirrored which I think is small considering we are in the age of 4K films for instance.A 4K film would be about 100GB in reasonable quality


Very good points, though you're hard pushed reaching 100GB for a 4K film! 60GB is more the norm, and at H265 you can get well under those. Makes a big difference when you have 150+ films
yogi65948504/11/2019 17:21

Aren’t these internal drives with no case?


Deal is for a bare drive.


Liam_D04/11/2019 17:22

Very good points, though you're hard pushed reaching 100GB for a 4K film! …Very good points, though you're hard pushed reaching 100GB for a 4K film! 60GB is more the norm, and at H265 you can get well under those. Makes a big difference when you have 150+ films


I've only got about 30 4K films so far. They range from about 22GB to 80GB.
Sparco03/11/2019 21:41

I've got two 3TB drives in my NAS, a WD green and a Seagate I shucked from …I've got two 3TB drives in my NAS, a WD green and a Seagate I shucked from an external USB drive. It's been running fine for years, but a couple of weeks ago, the Seagate got a "failing" status. It's got 17000 bad sectors apparently. Is that a lot ?I'm tempted to hold out and see what deals there are on black Friday.


Your drive is fubar’d. If you value your data, get it swapped.
Out of stock in that particular vendor, but looks like a new baseline is there now, Amazon listing at £101.92
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