4TB in your pocket next week! New Samsung M3 Slimline USB 3.0 Portable HDD £149.99 @ Amazon
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4TB in your pocket next week! New Samsung M3 Slimline USB 3.0 Portable HDD £149.99 @ Amazon

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Found 8th Jul 2015
The Samsung M3 Slimline 4 TB USB 3.0 Portable Hard Drive is being released by Amazon next week 14th July, so pre-order now. This looks like a good deal if you need to carry a lot of data in a small package. Also available from Italian seller Omegashop_Tech for £140.93 but their shop currently doesn't list shipping cost and is also currently unavailable.

The Seagate Backup Plus 4TB USB3.0 Portable Hard Drive is still £189.99 at Argos, but that is a double stack drive so nowhere near as slim as the Samsung.

As someone who films all over the world, this will be terrific in my backpack!

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Wow....didn't know these were going to be released for at least another 2+ years....

I don't need one but I want one.

I think maybe after some research not so good....These are SMR drives
Though maybe that was obvious if we think about it.
Still interesting though and ordered
Edited by: "robo989" 8th Jul 2015

Are these Samsung drives still native USB or is there a SATA drive inside the enclosure nowadays?
Edited by: "SUMMONER" 8th Jul 2015

SUMMONER

Are these Samsung drives still native USB or is there a SATA drive inside … Are these Samsung drives still native USB or is there a SATA drive inside the enclosure nowadays?

native USB

minted83

native USB


Mehhh...

Does this enclose a 2.5" sata?

read the thread, it's not that long, same questionn was answered the post before urs

think I'll try putting this inside my PlayStation 4

gdata

think I'll try putting this inside my PlayStation 4


not sure if that was sarcasm, but this won't fit in anything that takes a 2.5" HDD

wow, but unfortunately just a tiny bit too big to fit in a laptop, so even if they made a version with a sata connection instead of usb it wouldn't fit. hopefully they can shave a bit of space of and come up with a 9mm version. the first 2tb 2.5" drives were 12.5mm but then later 9mm came out so hopefully it's a matter of time. i still don't trust SMR as it's not been out that long for many people to have used it for long periods, but this is a decent price for a new drive

would this work as an external storage device for Xbox One? (to use as the main installation/game storage drive).
Is it "fast" enough to allow the games to load off it?

I do favour these portable types of drives and have several already. Does anyone know what warranty Samsung will give on this one....?

I can see here..

http://www.storagereview.com/samsung_m3_and_p3_portable_4tb_external_hard_drives_announced

that it lists three years.

But here it states their HD's have two years...

http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/warranty/

I must have missed the bit when Seagate got involved with Samsung.

dorito

would this work as an external storage device for Xbox One? (to use as … would this work as an external storage device for Xbox One? (to use as the main installation/game storage drive).Is it "fast" enough to allow the games to load off it?



Would be fine, when you install a game on an xbox one it is installed in segments...not loads of small files.
It's small files that kill smr performance and make it unseable for OS installing.

VimesUK

I do favour these portable types of drives and have several already. Does … I do favour these portable types of drives and have several already. Does anyone know what warranty Samsung will give on this one....?I can see here..http://www.storagereview.com/samsung_m3_and_p3_portable_4tb_external_hard_drives_announcedthat it lists three years.But here it states their HD's have two years...http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/warranty/I must have missed the bit when Seagate got involved with Samsung.



There's a P model and an M model different warranty.

dorito

would this work as an external storage device for Xbox One? (to use as … would this work as an external storage device for Xbox One? (to use as the main installation/game storage drive).Is it "fast" enough to allow the games to load off it?



You do not need to pay a premium for size/portability of the drive, if you have little/no intention of moving it.

For example:
Seagate Expansion 4TB USB 3.0 Desktop 3.5 inch External Hard Drive for PC & Xbox One
[ amazon.co.uk/Sea…BQ/ ]
Presently £99.99.

The 5TB capacity model is £119.98.

robo989

There's a P model and an M model different warranty.



According to the link I posted both the P and the M are offered three years warranty - the same. Colour and pattern design is the only noted difference between the two.

gdata

think I'll try putting this inside my PlayStation 4



You may find that even though it is 'slimline' the HDD inside is still too large to fit inside the PS4 bay

You'd be best buying: amazon.co.uk/Sea…VZ4 in my opinion. Fits inside the PS4 lovely and I've got every game I own installed, plus most of the PS+ games since launch and Ive got 1TB left.
Edited by: "vig1lante" 9th Jul 2015

The 2TB version is around £64 and getting cheaper, so you're kind of just paying an additional £28 for the convenience of having all the memory on one drive. Crazy how pricing works on memory devices.

I have one with me right now. If someone has questions, feel free to ask.

siliconbits

I have one with me right now. If someone has questions, feel free to ask.


Hi, what's the noise level like of the 4gb drive. I have the Seagate Expansion 2gb portable drive which is slightly noisier than my Toshiba, and I wondered if you have a smaller drive to compare with.

Edited by: "pet2000" 9th Jul 2015

vig1lante

You may find that even though it is 'slimline' the HDD inside is still … You may find that even though it is 'slimline' the HDD inside is still too large to fit inside the PS4 bayYou'd be best buying: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Seagate-Expansion-Portable-External-Drive/dp/B00ILALU9G/ref=pd_sim_sbs_147_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=0BXWVR586VVPX6498VZ4 in my opinion. Fits inside the PS4 lovely and I've got every game I own installed, plus most of the PS+ games since launch and Ive got 1TB left.




Would I be correct in assuming the drive inside the enclosure is 9.5mm SATA?

pet2000

Hi, what's the noise level like of the 4gb drive. I have the Seagate … Hi, what's the noise level like of the 4gb drive. I have the Seagate Expansion 2gb portable drive which is slightly noisier than my Toshiba, and I wondered if you have a smaller drive to compare with.


Very silent. And I am working in an empty house where the only noticeable sounds are the clock and the fridge/freezer. Don't have another drive to compare.

uni

wow, but unfortunately just a tiny bit too big to fit in a laptop, so … wow, but unfortunately just a tiny bit too big to fit in a laptop, so even if they made a version with a sata connection instead of usb it wouldn't fit. hopefully they can shave a bit of space of and come up with a 9mm version. the first 2tb 2.5" drives were 12.5mm but then later 9mm came out so hopefully it's a matter of time. i still don't trust SMR as it's not been out that long for many people to have used it for long periods, but this is a decent price for a new drive


I agree. I work in the industry and are seeing most of our high capacity drives coming in as SMR now. We definitely take a performance hit with SMR and I'm dreading the day we have to debug these drives.
This feels a little like the magnetic version of flash's TLC all over again :-(
I think I'll soon become a dinosaur and buy up many of the last remaining non-SMR drives to keep my servers hosting as long as possible with proven hardware.
Having said that, I did the same with light bulbs when we were not allowed to sell non-energy saving bulbs any more.
But to date, I have never plugged one of these old bulbs in :-) Perhaps as my eyesight fades, I'll use the bulbs to give me that extra bright and more realistic light I need :-)

- tonymac

midiman

Would I be correct in assuming the drive inside the enclosure is 9.5mm … Would I be correct in assuming the drive inside the enclosure is 9.5mm SATA?



I believe so. There are several "How to upgrade my PS4 HDD" articles which recommend buying this and ripping the drive out.

It fit in the PS4 perfectly and I used the 500GB back in the enclosure.

About time a portable 4TB drive is released.

I am not a fan of 3.5" drives except for in my NAS or a Server

robo989

I think maybe after some research not so good....These are SMR drives … I think maybe after some research not so good....These are SMR drives :(Though maybe that was obvious if we think about it.Still interesting though and ordered


If these are indeed SMR (and the TB per platter strongly hints at that being likely) then I won't be going near them.

SMR is really good for archiving (lots of TB/platter), but a portable archive isn't what most people will be buying this drive for. If you are going to be writing data frequntly, then SMR will requires other data around where the data you are changing is located to be rewritten to another part of the disk or it will be written over. I imagine this will have a potentially huge impact on the time it takes to complete write operations depending on how full your drive is and how much data is changing.

Does anyone know how a SMR drive responds to defragmentation in terms of time and increased read/write operations?

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cabbage10

https://www.thenetworkhardware.com/Hard-Drives/External-and-Internal-Hard-Drives/4TB-Hard-Drive/Samsung/HX-M401TCB/G



US$3080 - Wow..wonder if they price match! ;-)

Avoid made by Seagate!

I have a 2TB one of these less than 2 months usage and its stopped working. Looked into the warranty and it turns out that Samsung sold their HDD division to Seagate and only produce SD and SSD memory now. I have since found out that 3 of my friends have the same drive in varying sizes and all have similar problems with it. I've since had it replaced but will not trust it with my data, if anyone wants my 2TB (of course not for free) let me know.
Edited by: "Dcoz" 9th Jul 2015

Dcoz

Avoid made by Seagate!I have a 2TB one of these less than 2 months usage … Avoid made by Seagate!I have a 2TB one of these less than 2 months usage and its stopped working. Looked into the warranty and it turns out that Samsung sold their HDD division to Seagate and only produce SD and SSD memory now. I have since found out that 3 of my friends have the same drive in varying sizes and all have similar problems with it. I've since had it replaced but will not trust it with my data, if anyone wants my 2TB (of course not for free) let me know.



Samsung sold their HDD division to Seagate years ago.

shasnir

Samsung sold their HDD division to Seagate years ago.



That's my point! Had I known this I wouldn't have gone near it. I guess I should have done a bit more research first. I just thought if a hard drive says Samsung it should at least be made by them, what I silly world I live in eh? In regards to my dislike with Seagate, I spoke to our IT guy who has provided thousands of hard drives to different companies and he has told me that every single seagate drive he provided has failed within the first year. As they're so cheap people eat them up and he now gives out a disclaimer which is to expect issues with the drive and to have additional backups.

Dcoz

Avoid made by Seagate!I have a 2TB one of these less than 2 months usage … Avoid made by Seagate!I have a 2TB one of these less than 2 months usage and its stopped working. Looked into the warranty and it turns out that Samsung sold their HDD division to Seagate and only produce SD and SSD memory now. I have since found out that 3 of my friends have the same drive in varying sizes and all have similar problems with it. I've since had it replaced but will not trust it with my data, if anyone wants my 2TB (of course not for free) let me know.



Wait :-)
Don't worry to much about the legacy Seagate issues.
I work closely with the bugs associated with disks and can tell you without "disclosure" that the issues facing 300GB-4TB disks were long since resolved.
In truth, most of the different capacity disks all use the same firmware underneath and therefore suffer the same problems. Some of the different capacity disks are actually the same disk with a different configured geometry ;-)
So you get a prospective that their entire product range has a poor life expectancy.
But, check the online forums and you will find that at least 3 of the major issues have long since been addressed and are available as firmware updates.
I'm not allowed to tell you the issues due to a disclosure agreement, but simply update your drives at the most earliest convenience and allow them to live a normal life going forwards.
Two of the major issues will be completely eradicated. The third issue will reset your drives firmware counters and if there is indeed a real failure, it will report that in SMART.
So proactively do this and remember, like politicians, "they are all the same"

- tonymac
Edited by: "tony3" 9th Jul 2015

tony3

Wait :-)Don't worry to much about the legacy Seagate issues.I work … Wait :-)Don't worry to much about the legacy Seagate issues.I work closely with the bugs associated with disks and can tell you without "disclosure" that the issues facing 300GB-4TB disks were long since resolved.In truth, most of the different capacity disks all use the same firmware underneath and therefore suffer the same problems. Some of the different capacity disks are actually the same disk with a different configured geometry ;-)So you get a prospective that their entire product range has a poor life expectancy.But, check the online forums and you will find that at least 3 of the major issues have long since been addressed and are available as firmware updates.I'm not allowed to tell you the issues due to a disclosure agreement, but simply update your drives at the most earliest convenience and allow them to live a normal life going forwards.Two of the major issues will be completely eradicated. The third issue will reset your drives firmware counters and if there is indeed a real failure, it will report that in SMART.So proactively do this and remember, like politicians, "they are all the same" - tonymac




Do you suggest I give the replacement drive a true try again? I've avoided Seagate for years and have never had a similar issue with Western Digital. This is something I've heard from everyone I know who has ever purchased a Seagate drive.

4 terrabyte in your pocket, and another one smoking a cigarette.

Dcoz

he has told me that every single seagate drive he provided has failed … he has told me that every single seagate drive he provided has failed within the first year.



I dislike Seagate as much as the next person - wouldn't use one again no matter what the price - but that part has got to be a load of crap..

Edited by: "ianbeany" 9th Jul 2015

Dcoz

Do you suggest I give the replacement drive a true try again? I've … Do you suggest I give the replacement drive a true try again? I've avoided Seagate for years and have never had a similar issue with Western Digital. This is something I've heard from everyone I know who has ever purchased a Seagate drive.



If you have a drive for testing. Open the side of your computer case. Listen to the drive as you try to use it or as BIOS/EFI tries to probe it.
If you hear any kind of clicking or grinding, throw it away.
If you hear the classic spinning baring sound then you should give it a chance.
Google your drive vendor string STxxxxxAS etc and search for the most recent firmware.
Execute the firmware image update then bring your drive online.
Run your drive as a secondary device for a week or however as long as you can give it.
Gain the confidence back then use it as one of your main disks again.

Hope this helps

-tonymac

Samsung HDD, which is owned by Seagate, has unveiled two new external hard disk drives, the M3 Portable and the P3 portable that are the first 4TB hard disk drives in a 2.5-inch form factor. Both of them are USB powered as well which means that they don't need any external power supply units.

The new devices are slightly thicker than Samsung's existing 2TB designs and both drives use the new Spinpoint M10P drive which has the world's highest areal density. This is a 5-disk platter (800GB per disk) which explains the thickness.

Both models come with the AutoBackup personal backup solution, a new feature called SecretZone and Secure Drive for worry-free data security.

The two drives will launch in June in the US and should be available in the UK later this year. Expect both to sell for a premium; the 2TB models costs about £70 (about $110, AU$140) so double that amount would not be a surprise.

would never touch samsung hard drives ever again. I've had 5, and 4 of them broke within 6 months. absolute garbage

tony3

...I'm not allowed to tell you the issues due to a disclosure agreement, … ...I'm not allowed to tell you the issues due to a disclosure agreement, but simply update your drives at the most earliest convenience and allow them to live a normal life going forwards ... - tonymac



Seagate has not published any firmware since the Barracuda 1TB/platter days - and even then only for some disks ("N" not "C") so people ended up with different versions.
I'm really amazed that even their hybrid/SSHD drives don't need any updates at all - they must have got really good at writing firmware in the last years or so...
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