5" Archos (re-badged as Alba) Android 6 Smartphone, Dual Sim, Sim Free £49.95 @ Argos
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5" Archos (re-badged as Alba) Android 6 Smartphone, Dual Sim, Sim Free £49.95 @ Argos

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Found 3rd Apr 2017
I'm sure this won't be everyone's cup of tea, but this seemed a good price for a reasonably specced (if you're not trying to run NASA from your phone) smartphone, particularly since it is unlocked AND dual sim.

It is bare-bones Android 6, so not full of bloatware and runs more than quick enough for my needs.
Battery life isn't the best I've had (usually around 65% after a day's use, with data left turned on), and it's only 3g.

It's sold as Alba but its actually a re-badged Archos.
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Battery life isn't the best I've had (usually around 65% after a day's … Battery life isn't the best I've had (usually around 65% after a day's use, with data left turned on)


oO Are you coming from an old Nokia?? X)
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jco83

oO Are you coming from an old Nokia?? X)



I used to get a week out of my 4" android phone with data turned off
ThanksForThat

I used to get a week out of my 4" android phone with data turned off


Ouch, specs are poor even for the money. 1gb Ram, 8gb internal. I'd be hard pressed to recommend this to anyone

It's sold as Alba but its actually a re-badged Archos.



Saying it's an Archos is no recommendation. I've bought quite a few Archos products in the past and they have either been riddled with bugs that they never fixed or they just died. Never again.
Edited by: "chrisgw3" 3rd Apr 2017
chrisgw3

Saying it's an Archos is no recommendation. I've bought quite a few … Saying it's an Archos is no recommendation. I've bought quite a few Archos products in the past and they have either been riddled with bugs that they never fixed or they just died. Never again.



​Beat me to it, would have been more of a selling point had alba made it. Archos easily some of poorest tablets I have ever used
Agree with the others Archos... run run away
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I guess it all depends what you're planning on using it for really. You don't need a gig of RAM to phone and text people. A quad-core processor and 1gb RAM is more than my old laptop. Each to their own of course, but there are still folk out there who just want a phone to ring people on, and when i was looking there wasn't a wealth of options when it came to dual sim, especially 3g dual sim, especially especially dual sim 3g smartphones
ThanksForThat

I guess it all depends what you're planning on using it for really. You … I guess it all depends what you're planning on using it for really. You don't need a gig of RAM to phone and text people. A quad-core processor and 1gb RAM is more than my old laptop. Each to their own of course, but there are still folk out there who just want a phone to ring people on, and when i was looking there wasn't a wealth of options when it came to dual sim, especially 3g dual sim, especially especially dual sim 3g smartphones



Why would you need 3g if you're only gonna ring and text people? You can polish a turd as much as you want, but it'll remain a turd.
ThanksForThat

It's sold as Alba but its actually a re-badged Archos.



So it it really just an MP3 player?
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Paddy_o_furniture

Why would you need 3g if you're only gonna ring and text people? You can … Why would you need 3g if you're only gonna ring and text people? You can polish a turd as much as you want, but it'll remain a turd.



Well, because Three only works on 3g. And that's probably one of the cheapest (if not the cheapest) for roaming, which is probably one of the main reasons for getting a dual sim phone (that and using it as a personal/work phone, obviously).

I knew this wouldn't be to everyone's tastes (fair enough), but it would be nice if rather than just saying "eugh that's rubbish", if they actually offered up a viable alternative (3g dual sim, sim free- smart or otherwise).
Edited by: "ThanksForThat" 4th Apr 2017
Archos = No no no no no.
Just No
Voted cold because you posted deal as Archos instead of Bush to avoid cold votes....
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Uridium

Voted cold because you posted deal as Archos instead of Bush to avoid … Voted cold because you posted deal as Archos instead of Bush to avoid cold votes....



Its not a Bush, its an Alba/Archos, not that being an Alba is any better than being a Bush?

Not that I'd try and avoid cold votes anyway, I'm not 4 years old.
Edited by: "ThanksForThat" 4th Apr 2017
Uridium

Voted cold because you posted deal as Archos instead of Bush to avoid … Voted cold because you posted deal as Archos instead of Bush to avoid cold votes....



OK ...Voted cold because you posted deal as Archos instead of Alba to avoid cold votes....
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Uridium

OK ...Voted cold because you posted deal as Archos instead of Alba to … OK ...Voted cold because you posted deal as Archos instead of Alba to avoid cold votes....



You see that bit in the title that says "re-badged as Alba", or the bit in the description that says "sold as Alba"..........

.....Apparently you didn't.
ThanksForThat

You see that bit in the title that says "re-badged as Alba", or the bit … You see that bit in the title that says "re-badged as Alba", or the bit in the description that says "sold as Alba"...............Apparently you didn't.




Yes...I also saw the title that begins.....'5" Archos'....and not '5" Alba'



Edited by: "Uridium" 4th Apr 2017
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Uridium

Yes...I also saw the title that begins.....'5" Archos'....and not '5" … Yes...I also saw the title that begins.....'5" Archos'....and not '5" Alba'



I guess its a quiet day on the trolling front.

I don't think there's anything that's particularly misleading or ambiguous about "5" Archos (re-badged as Alba)".
It certainly isn't "posted deal as Archos instead of Alba". I also tagged it both Alba and Archos, you know, just to make sure.
And do you know why I posted it as "5" Archos (re-badged as Alba)"? Because its a 5" Archos phone, re-badged as Alba.
Feel free to vote it down all you like if that's your thing, I couldn't care less.
Can you put 2 3G only sims in at the same time? i.e. both on stand by?
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Geemac

Can you put 2 3G only sims in at the same time? i.e. both on stand by?



Aye, both slots are 3g. And then you can set which is the primary for calls, texts and data independently (although they both stay on standby). I'm not sure if this is standard fare for dual sim- the last time I had one you had to turn the phone on and off again to switch sims!
ThanksForThat

You see that bit in the title that says "re-badged as Alba", or the bit … You see that bit in the title that says "re-badged as Alba", or the bit in the description that says "sold as Alba"...............Apparently you didn't.



​thanks for posting OP dont worry about the critics
ThanksForThat

Aye, both slots are 3g. And then you can set which is the primary for … Aye, both slots are 3g. And then you can set which is the primary for calls, texts and data independently (although they both stay on standby). I'm not sure if this is standard fare for dual sim- the last time I had one you had to turn the phone on and off again to switch sims!


How do you know both slots are 3g? On the majority of dual sim phones slot 2 is usually gsm (calls & texts) only. I can't find any info anywhere that supports this.
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Paddy_o_furniture

How do you know both slots are 3g? On the majority of dual sim phones … How do you know both slots are 3g? On the majority of dual sim phones slot 2 is usually gsm (calls & texts) only. I can't find any info anywhere that supports this.



I own it- both slots are labelled 2g/3g, and I've had (and used) my Three sim in both slots
ThanksForThat

I own it- both slots are labelled 2g/3g, and I've had (and used) my Three … I own it- both slots are labelled 2g/3g, and I've had (and used) my Three sim in both slots


I'm somewhat surprised but don't doubt you.
ThanksForThat

I own it- both slots are labelled 2g/3g, and I've had (and used) my Three … I own it- both slots are labelled 2g/3g, and I've had (and used) my Three sim in both slots



Are but have you used both slots at the SAME time with 3G sims? I had a twin sim phone where either slot would take 3G sim but, the other slot would revert to 2G
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Geemac

Are but have you used both slots at the SAME time with 3G sims? I had a … Are but have you used both slots at the SAME time with 3G sims? I had a twin sim phone where either slot would take 3G sim but, the other slot would revert to 2G



Hmmm.....Now then. When I got it I also bought the Three sim, and had that and my existing EE sim in at the same time while I waited for my number to port over to Three.

The definitely both worked at the same time, as I was getting texts in on both. And I definitely had the option to chose which was the default sim for what, including data.
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Also, I had my EE in slot 1 and the Three sim in slot 2 (Three sim was installed first while I transferred everything over from my old phone, then EE sim went in). Neither sim slot, no matter which order they were occupied, seemed dominant (other than the manual selecting of preferences in settings).

So i would yes, two (3g sims) simultaneously works.
I would almost guarantee that only one slot will work on 3g at any one time, the other slot will then only work on 2g. So you can't use two 3 sims, without a lot of hassle!!
they will both be '3G' slots but only one can be active for data access at any one time. therefore, in theory, one sim slot will always be '2G' - the one not used for data.

as they are both 3G capable, theoretically you shouldnt have any issues with 2 three sims.
Edited by: "adamspencer95" 5th Apr 2017
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If I remember/have time I'll try it tonight. I've only got the one Three sim, but i can stick the wife's EE sim and set that to priority for all (calls, data, texts), then see if I can still receive/send on the Three sim (which should ONLY work if its it on 3g).
If both slots are 3g and both sims are on standby, one would presume that it would just alternate between the two as required (having slot 1 set as priority for texts didn't stop slot 2 receiving them, it just meant I wasn't asked everytime I went to send one which sim I wanted to use- so by that token you'd think that even if slot 1 was set to priority for data, if a 3g call came in on slot 2 it would just switch over).
What you are describing sounds like the problem I have with my Doogee X5 Pro. When I have my Three PAYG SIM in it with my TalkMobile SIM everything works fine. However, if I swap the TalkMobile SIM out for my Three Data Reward SIM (ie 2 Three SIMs in there) only one of the SIMs then gets a signal (whichever one I specify in the phone's settings to use for data). It doesn't matter which SIM is in which slot or which SIM I specify for data, so it could be that only one slot operates at 3G, even though I think both are supposed to be 4G.
3guesses

What you are describing sounds like the problem I have with my Doogee X5 … What you are describing sounds like the problem I have with my Doogee X5 Pro. When I have my Three PAYG SIM in it with my TalkMobile SIM everything works fine. However, if I swap the TalkMobile SIM out for my Three Data Reward SIM (ie 2 Three SIMs in there) only one of the SIMs then gets a signal (whichever one I specify in the phone's settings to use for data). It doesn't matter which SIM is in which slot or which SIM I specify for data, so it could be that only one slot operates at 3G, even though I think both are supposed to be 4G.


I know from experience that the Doogee X5 pro only has 4g/data enabled on one of the sims. The 2nd slot is 100% 2g only which is why the 3 sim won't work in there as 3 has no 2g infrastructure.
Paddy_o_furniture

I know from experience that the Doogee X5 pro only has 4g/data enabled on … I know from experience that the Doogee X5 pro only has 4g/data enabled on one of the sims. The 2nd slot is 100% 2g only which is why the 3 sim won't work in there as 3 has no 2g infrastructure.



Thanks, confirms what I was beginning to suspect. Very annoying as I use a Three 1-2-3 PAYG SIM for calls and texts and wanted to use the free 200MB monthly allowance on the Three Data Reward SIM for data. I'm sure the handset was advertised as 4G on both SIM slots...
On these dual sim phones, both slots can be 3G/4G, however, as I said earlier, only one can be 3G/4G enabled at any one time. So it can still be advertised as "4G on both SIM slots", but they can't both get a 3G/4G connection at the same time. So you basically can't use 2 Three sims in the same phone.
adamspencer95

as they are both 3G capable, theoretically you shouldnt have any issues … as they are both 3G capable, theoretically you shouldnt have any issues with 2 three sims.



You will, because only one slot can be 3G enabled at any one time. The other will revert to 2G and therefore won't receive a signal on Three.
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well, its not a conclusive test (didn't have another active mini sim and the wife wouldn't let me butcher hers), but I put my old EE sim back in, switched the data priority and immediately lost signal on the Three sim, so I'm inclined to agree with everyone that it does in fact force one sim to 2g.
ThanksForThat

well, its not a conclusive test (didn't have another active mini sim and … well, its not a conclusive test (didn't have another active mini sim and the wife wouldn't let me butcher hers), but I put my old EE sim back in, switched the data priority and immediately lost signal on the Three sim, so I'm inclined to agree with everyone that it does in fact force one sim to 2g.



Thank you, it’s nice to have it confirmed in real life. So when the 2G network is switched off all current twin sim phones will become single sim phones
Reading up on this seems the 3G network could be switched off before the 2G network oO
Edited by: "Geemac" 6th Apr 2017
Benjimoron

You will, because only one slot can be 3G enabled at any one time. The … You will, because only one slot can be 3G enabled at any one time. The other will revert to 2G and therefore won't receive a signal on Three.



​are you therefore stating that a three sim wont work unless you have a 3G signal? because i can assure you it works on 2G as long as the phone is 3G capable
adamspencer95

​are you therefore stating that a three sim wont work unless you have a 3 … ​are you therefore stating that a three sim wont work unless you have a 3G signal? because i can assure you it works on 2G as long as the phone is 3G capable



The point being made is: You cannot put 2, 3 network sims in a 3G twin sim phone and have BOTH sims working at the same time not even for calls only. You can only get a 3G signal on 1 slot at a time
Geemac

The point being made is: You cannot put 2, 3 network sims in a 3G twin … The point being made is: You cannot put 2, 3 network sims in a 3G twin sim phone and have BOTH sims working at the same time not even for calls only. You can only get a 3G signal on 1 slot at a time



​yes, i think you are correct now. i was under the impression three still had a 2G agreement with another network which seems to have been revoked since i was last with three.
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