55 inch LG 4k 10Bit LG tv HDR SJ model - £799 @ Richer Sounds
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55 inch LG 4k 10Bit LG tv HDR SJ model - £799 @ Richer Sounds

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Found 13th Nov
Seems like a good deal.
In the market so value thoughts

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Is there an Open University course on choosing a TV or maybe Professor Cox can help?
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Just read a review about this TV. Pretty good overall (especially for this price) but some weird default settings issues and poor motion handling would put me off. Heat for the price and Richer Sounds guarantee.

Only LG oleds are 10 bit . Out of their 2017 TVs . Had this confirmed in a email from LG today

8 bit + frc

It doesn't matter whether it has a 10-bit panel, the hardware that makes the big difference for HDR is colour gamut (where this does well) and contrast/local dimming (where this does badly).

Dazzman7239 m ago

Only LG oleds are 10 bit . Out of their 2017 TVs . Had this confirmed in a …Only LG oleds are 10 bit . Out of their 2017 TVs . Had this confirmed in a email from LG today


It is 10 bit RGB panel at 120Htz spec here displayspecifications.com/en/…adf so is the sj950 and the sj800 is 10 bit but RGBW panel at 120 Htz

Enet56 m ago

Just read a review about this TV. Pretty good overall (especially for this …Just read a review about this TV. Pretty good overall (especially for this price) but some weird default settings issues and poor motion handling would put me off. Heat for the price and Richer Sounds guarantee.


Nothing wrong with the motion handling according to this review rtings.com/tv/…500

BUCKUM232 m ago

It is 10 bit RGB panel at 120Htz spec here …It is 10 bit RGB panel at 120Htz spec here https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/ac33adf so is the sj950 and the sj800 is 10 bit but RGBW panel at 120 Htz

Did you not see attached email from LG ?

Is there an Open University course on choosing a TV or maybe Professor Cox can help?

Dazzman7237 m ago

Did you not see attached email from LG ?


avforums.com/thr…68/

Super UHD ones are 10 bit. Makes sense as they support dolby vision. 8bit + FRC only support hdr10.

Though, these days. Who knows what we'll get. Bet in some parts of the world this same model is using a different panel.
Edited by: "IronSoldier" 14th Nov

Hopefully good TV deals on Black Friday? Or is that just fantasy?

Tv's cost more then cheap cars now

BUCKUM21 h, 11 m ago

Nothing wrong with the motion handling according to this review …Nothing wrong with the motion handling according to this review http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/sj8500

I'm not an expert but I notice that this review talks about response time being related to motion blur which from what I have read in many reviews is not necessarily the case because motion blur can be caused by multiple factors.

Anyway the review I read said it has poor motion handling and not the best light management. This review says it has poor black levels.
Bottom line: Not bad for the price.
Edited by: "Enet" 14th Nov

Hard to know if the LG expert was just being a numpty or if he was correct.

Either way, be careful - another user reported previously that Richer Sounds charge a 15% restocking fee if you have to return for any reason - almost a whopping £120 lost if you need/want to return!

Splice5 h, 34 m ago

Tv's cost more then cheap cars now


Welcome to the 21st century. You are only 17 years behind now

Dazzman726 h, 26 m ago

Did you not see attached email from LG ?


On a earlier deal post someone had a email from lg saying the exact opposite to yours with regard to the sj series so looks like it depends who you talk to at lg anyway i think the above post from iron soldier with the avforum link sorts this out 10 bit

Standard price in John Lewis

Dazzman728 h, 0 m ago

Only LG oleds are 10 bit . Out of their 2017 TVs . Had this confirmed in a …Only LG oleds are 10 bit . Out of their 2017 TVs . Had this confirmed in a email from LG today

And there's the great con which all TV companies are doing and telling us it's 10 bit panels.

unidentified1 h, 53 m ago

Hard to know if the LG expert was just being a numpty or if he was …Hard to know if the LG expert was just being a numpty or if he was correct.Either way, be careful - another user reported previously that Richer Sounds charge a 15% restocking fee if you have to return for any reason - almost a whopping £120 lost if you need/want to return!


Buy over the phone then they can't as DSR protects you

Good thread here, LG customer service and technicians seem confused by what they offer on the SJ8 series. I’ve seen the 49 inch in person and say it matches up very well for picture quality against all the other brands. Definitely a contender, not sure this is a deal though, seems standard price since the 49 inch dropped to £649ish. Not sure Black Friday will bring these panels down further as I have had several sources indicate the deals will be at high end and maybe one or two low ends but not so much mid range.

avforums.com/thr…68/

I have this Tv, and I am very pleased with it, overall

I don't do any form of gaming, so can't help with that.

I watch standard TV through an aerial and Humax box. Found this helps as my wife likes a much brighter picture than me, so I can set the TV up for her viewing preferences, through the Humax and my slightly darker viewing preferences through the TV.

There is a definite improvement through the HD channels (although not as bigger difference as I thought, there would be).Biggest improvement in a picture over my own TV I have watched so far, was the Channel 4 coverage of the Brazilian Grand Prix, the colours and the sound were miles better than my old TV (I will have to see what the England match against Brazil is like). It is very poor with normal SD channels (worse than my 5 year HD Ready Sony did) but finding different settings for SD may help overtime?

Where this TV comes into its own for viewing is 10 Bit sources and streamed HD stuff,

Mad Max Fury Road was just stunning on this TV in 10 bit but TV speakers struggled with Atmos sound (unsurprisingly) so will need a soundbar or a way to remux the soundtrack to 5.1 but keep the picture quality , I was just in awe of the picture, it was really like being in a cinema with a smaller screen .

Also watching Suburra on Netflix and have been really impressed with the picture on that, along with Amazon webrip of Blue Planet II (way better than the BBC transmitted version) when watched on this TV.

The 4k upscaler does a great job on Bluray films and 1080p copies and looks almost 3D on somethings, very peculiar, but enjoyable to watch.

Setup was easy and took 20 minutes if that. The magic remote and webos on this is so easy to use and I can thoroughly recommend that also. My IPTV service works through the Matrix TV Browser (addon) so have dispensed with kodi

Couple of negative things. The edge lighting is slightly noticeable when black bars on the top and bottom of the TV picture, If picture is full screen picture not noticeable at all though, I know it would bug some people, but doesn't bother me. But it is there.

The screen is quite reflective and we can see the window on our front door reflected on the picture during the day and table light at night, so have had to move it., But in a Dark room no such problems and a 10 bit film is really like being in the cinema, just amazing.

This has to be RGB 10 bitpanel, I only have limited technical knowledge. But you you can't get Dolby Vision on anything but a true 10 bit panel and only LG Super UHD/Oled TV's and some Sony TV's with the X1 Extreme chipsets (when firmware updated) can offer this.
Edited by: "sotv" 14th Nov

sotv14th Nov

I have this Tv, and I am very pleased with it, overallI don't do any form …I have this Tv, and I am very pleased with it, overallI don't do any form of gaming, so can't help with that.I watch standard TV through an aerial and Humax box. Found this helps as my wife likes a much brighter picture than me, so I can set the TV up for her viewing preferences, through the Humax and my slightly darker viewing preferences through the TV.There is a definite improvement through the HD channels (although not as bigger difference as I thought, there would be).Biggest improvement in a picture over my own TV I have watched so far, was the Channel 4 coverage of the Brazilian Grand Prix, the colours and the sound were miles better than my old TV (I will have to see what the England match against Brazil is like). It is very poor with normal SD channels (worse than my 5 year HD Ready Sony did) but finding different settings for SD may help overtime?Where this TV comes into its own for viewing is 10 Bit sources and streamed HD stuff, Mad Max Fury Road was just stunning on this TV in 10 bit but TV speakers struggled with Atmos sound (unsurprisingly) so will need a soundbar or a way to remux the soundtrack to 5.1 but keep the picture quality , I was just in awe of the picture, it was really like being in a cinema with a smaller screen . Also watching Suburra on Netflix and have been really impressed with the picture on that, along with Amazon webrip of Blue Planet II (way better than the BBC transmitted version) when watched on this TV.The 4k upscaler does a great job on Bluray films and 1080p copies and looks almost 3D on somethings, very peculiar, but enjoyable to watch.Setup was easy and took 20 minutes if that. The magic remote and webos on this is so easy to use and I can thoroughly recommend that also. My IPTV service works through the Matrix TV Browser (addon) so have dispensed with kodiCouple of negative things. The edge lighting is slightly noticeable when black bars on the top and bottom of the TV picture, If picture is full screen picture not noticeable at all though, I know it would bug some people, but doesn't bother me. But it is there. The screen is quite reflective and we can see the window on our front door reflected on the picture during the day and table light at night, so have had to move it., But in a Dark room no such problems and a 10 bit film is really like being in the cinema, just amazing.This has to be RGB 10 bitpanel, I only have limited technical knowledge. But you you can't get Dolby Vision on anything but a true 10 bit panel and only LG Super UHD/Oled TV's and some Sony TV's with the X1 Extreme chipsets (when firmware updated) can offer this.



I agree with a lot of what you say... just thought i'd add my 2p worth for ppl.

i have a very similar model.. 55UJ750V and was initially pleased.. but. one major issue is in HDR mode for games, the black ghosting/clouding that happens is even worse... so Tomb Raider for instance is probably worse in HDr mode than the performance mode. .. eg every time gears of wars little loading thing is up half the screen goes grey instead of black..! its horrendous!
also had to assign the HDMI the xbox was on as "PC mode" to not get the input lag, as HDR game mode was very very dark for Forza Horizon 3... (the other HDR modes, vivid, standard etc looked much much better, the way its supposed to look!.. but had the input lag issues ) LG broke HDR game mode some months back and had no intention of fixing it.

if anyone is thinking of buying this for gaming or a lot of 4K/HDr content i would probably advise to go for a VA panel rather than IPS (such as this)

for other stuff like Tv and movies it generally is ok.. but there has been a few films it struggled with dark scenes., especially more noticable/worse if they have the black bars at top and bottom (like most will have!) when its struggling with the black contrast.. and again if in HDR mode its a bit more notiable.. otherwise HDR is great a lot of the time
it had a tough time when i was watching Man in High Castle on Amazon Prime in 4K/HDR with the dark scenes.. so bad i have had to exchange for a different tv.
Edited by: "neosalad" 28th Nov

unidentified3 h, 37 m ago

Hard to know if the LG expert was just being a numpty or if he was …Hard to know if the LG expert was just being a numpty or if he was correct.Either way, be careful - another user reported previously that Richer Sounds charge a 15% restocking fee if you have to return for any reason - almost a whopping £120 lost if you need/want to return!


Well the LG guy says it's 8 bit and Richer Sounds lists it (and sells it) as 8 bit. So you can't really moan when you get it home and it is indeed 8 bit!

Rich442 h, 0 m ago

Buy over the phone then they can't as DSR protects you


This Particular TV is an instore deal only.

Im a little disappointed with the 2017 range of LED TVs, I find the picture of LG TVs to be very dull, their OLEDs are outstanding but not so much on the LEDs.
Samsung TVs seem very washed out to me which is suprising as they are normally fantastic.
If I was to choose any LED under £1000, I would consider the Sony XE7 or XE8 models.
For me though, if you really want 10 bit and a TV that really performs then pay the extra and get an OLED.
Edited by: "GRSC" 14th Nov

They can call it 10 bit when it's 8 bit + FRC but it's not a true 10 bit really

sotv1 h, 57 m ago

I have this TV



Since you have this TV, maybe you can check for us...

Is there anything in the menus that would allow you to enable/disable Frame Rate Compensation (FRC)? Or maybe a Movie or Film mode or some mode that visibly alters the framerate?

neosalad2 h, 46 m ago

I agree with a lot of what you say... just thought i'd add my 2p worth …I agree with a lot of what you say... just thought i'd add my 2p worth for ppl.i have a very similar model.. 55UK750V and was initially pleased.. but. one major issue is in HDR mode for games, the black ghosting/clouding that happens is even worse... so Tomb Raider for instance is probably worse in HDr mode than the performance mode. .. eg every time gears of wars little loading thing is up half the screen goes grey instead of black..! its horrendous!also had to assign the HDMI the xbox was on as "PC mode" to not get the input lag, as HDR game mode was very very dark for Forza Horizon 3... (the other HDR modes, vivid, standard etc looked much much better, the way its supposed to look!.. but had the input lag issues ) LG broke HDR game mode some months back and had no intention of fixing it.if anyone is thinking of buying this for gaming i would probably advise to go for a VA panel rather than IPS (such as this)for other stuff like Tv and movies it generally is ok.. but there has bene a few films it struggled with dark scenes., especially more noticable/worse if they have the black bars at top and bottom (like most will have!) when its struggling with the black contrast.. and again if in HDR mode its a bit more notiable.. otherwise HDR is great a lot of the time


Yeah annoying as hell the hdr game mode tried everything to get this to look better but no luck been using hdr vivid as looks brilliant but that comes with the added lag issues while gaming

CoeK5 h, 26 m ago

Welcome to the 21st century. You are only 17 years behind now



What do you mean? My frind has a car looks kinda new cost cheaper then the t.v.

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+1 for 8bit

gopolog861 h, 17 m ago

Yeah annoying as hell the hdr game mode tried everything to get this to …Yeah annoying as hell the hdr game mode tried everything to get this to look better but no luck been using hdr vivid as looks brilliant but that comes with the added lag issues while gaming


Change the input icon to 'PC' to resolve lag issues

idontbyte5 m ago

Change the input icon to 'PC' to resolve lag issues


that seriously works? guessing you mean in the input settings? and keep the rest of the settings as they are?
Edited by: "gopolog86" 14th Nov

up to £849 now

Splice1 h, 28 m ago

What do you mean? My frind has a car looks kinda new cost cheaper then the …What do you mean? My frind has a car looks kinda new cost cheaper then the t.v.



I mean since LCD and plasma TV's in the 00's TV's have cost this much. So this isn't a new thing.

A car worth less than this TV is most likely a banger, this isn't even an expensive TV.

neosalad4 h, 51 m ago

I agree with a lot of what you say... just thought i'd add my 2p worth …I agree with a lot of what you say... just thought i'd add my 2p worth for ppl.i have a very similar model.. 55UK750V and was initially pleased.. but. one major issue is in HDR mode for games, the black ghosting/clouding that happens is even worse... so Tomb Raider for instance is probably worse in HDr mode than the performance mode. .. eg every time gears of wars little loading thing is up half the screen goes grey instead of black..! its horrendous!also had to assign the HDMI the xbox was on as "PC mode" to not get the input lag, as HDR game mode was very very dark for Forza Horizon 3... (the other HDR modes, vivid, standard etc looked much much better, the way its supposed to look!.. but had the input lag issues ) LG broke HDR game mode some months back and had no intention of fixing it.if anyone is thinking of buying this for gaming i would probably advise to go for a VA panel rather than IPS (such as this)for other stuff like Tv and movies it generally is ok.. but there has bene a few films it struggled with dark scenes., especially more noticable/worse if they have the black bars at top and bottom (like most will have!) when its struggling with the black contrast.. and again if in HDR mode its a bit more notiable.. otherwise HDR is great a lot of the time


Do you mean 55UJ750V or 55UH750V There is no 55UK750V Either way you can't compare to the SJ models as they have the new NANO CELL technology

gopolog861 h, 13 m ago

that seriously works? guessing you mean in the input settings? and keep …that seriously works? guessing you mean in the input settings? and keep the rest of the settings as they are?


Yeah it will turn off some post-processing that lags it up but you can still use HDR

woolymammoth86068 h, 24 m ago

And there's the great con which all TV companies are doing and telling us …And there's the great con which all TV companies are doing and telling us it's 10 bit panels.


That's like saying car companies are conning you because a 120bhp turbocharged engine isn't a 'real' 120 horsepower engine because it has to use a turbocharger. It's just a different way to acheive the same results and it's the output that matters.
sotv6 h, 45 m ago

This has to be RGB 10 bitpanel, I only have limited technical knowledge. …This has to be RGB 10 bitpanel, I only have limited technical knowledge. But you you can't get Dolby Vision on anything but a true 10 bit panel and only LG Super UHD/Oled TV's and some Sony TV's with the X1 Extreme chipsets (when firmware updated) can offer this.


You don't describe what you're seeing but it's far more likely the obvious benefits of the wider colour gamut (richer colours, more contrast) rather than the very subtle difference a 10-bit panel makes (less banding).

The 10-bit data in HDR and a 10-bit LCD panel are not equivalent, they're dealing with different ranges. HDR10's 10-bit data is used for the full 20,000,000:1 contrast range, while an IPS LCD panel like this can only deal with around 1200:1 of that however many bits you give it. Reproducing the rest of the HDR range has to be done through local dimming and wide colour gamut.
neosalad6 h, 37 m ago

I agree with a lot of what you say... just thought i'd add my 2p worth …I agree with a lot of what you say... just thought i'd add my 2p worth for ppl.i have a very similar model.. 55UK750V and was initially pleased.. but. one major issue is in HDR mode for games, the black ghosting/clouding that happens is even worse... so Tomb Raider for instance is probably worse in HDr mode than the performance mode. .. eg every time gears of wars little loading thing is up half the screen goes grey instead of black..! its horrendous!


That's LG's poor local dimming system, the 770/800+ models are better controlled in that area so it'll be less noticable on this model. It's still a long way from the standards of more expensive TVs though.


unidentified4 h, 48 m ago

Since you have this TV, maybe you can check for us...Is there anything in …Since you have this TV, maybe you can check for us...Is there anything in the menus that would allow you to enable/disable Frame Rate Compensation (FRC)? Or maybe a Movie or Film mode or some mode that visibly alters the framerate?


LG calls their motion interpolation TruMotion.

The FRC abbreviation is generally used for Frame Rate Control, which is a type of dithering that alternates colours between frames and nothing to do with creating frames or other motion.

EndlessWaves5 m ago

LG calls their motion interpolation TruMotion. The FRC abbreviation is …LG calls their motion interpolation TruMotion. The FRC abbreviation is generally used for Frame Rate Control, which is a type of dithering that alternates colours between frames and nothing to do with creating frames or other motion.



So is there a Motion Interpolation menu option on this particular TV then?

unidentified2 m ago

So is there a Motion Interpolation menu option on this particular TV then?


I'm not sure. I have a different 2017 LG which has it, but it's not part of this range.

I would definitely expect it to as I'm pretty sure it's a 120hz panel which would be pretty pointless without them.

sotv6 h, 56 m ago

I have this TV


Is there a Motion Interpolation option in the menus on this TV?

unidentified14 m ago

Is there a Motion Interpolation option in the menus on this TV?


Yes there is it is called TruMotion and your can turn it on and off through "Expert Room Settings" otherwise it is permanently on with every other preset setting as far as I know so far. But haven't tried every setting of the TV yet.
Edited by: "sotv" 14th Nov
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