A brief history of time - Audiobook £1.99 or £1 with 50% off voucher - Google Audiobooks
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A brief history of time - Audiobook £1.99 or £1 with 50% off voucher - Google Audiobooks

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Found 24th Jan
Not a bad price for a pretty good bit of text.

Either £1.99 sale price or there is a voucher for 50% off, so potentially get it for a quid
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Cold. Not narrated by Stephen Hawking.



Only kidding, heat added.
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RoosterNo14 h, 6 m ago

Well, when I was at school science was repeatable proof of how things …Well, when I was at school science was repeatable proof of how things worked... today its all "best guess" dressed up as facts. "Scientists" simply cannot utter the phrases "I may be wrong..." or "we simply don't know"They continually paper over gaping cracks in theories with increasing infeasible bull. Theories... THEORIES = made up stuff. Red shift is my pet hate, we cant explain it so we'll just make up "dark stuff" to explain as to how we must be right... Discuss...


Seems to work OK for religion not having any proof of any kind and it is theoretical physics after all. I think it is fascinating.
RoosterNo125th Jan

Well, when I was at school science was repeatable proof of how things …Well, when I was at school science was repeatable proof of how things worked... today its all "best guess" dressed up as facts. "Scientists" simply cannot utter the phrases "I may be wrong..." or "we simply don't know"They continually paper over gaping cracks in theories with increasing infeasible bull. Theories... THEORIES = made up stuff. Red shift is my pet hate, we cant explain it so we'll just make up "dark stuff" to explain as to how we must be right... Discuss...


Lol. Red shift or the Doppler effect is easily explained - it's even taught to 15 year olds. Because you can't grasp it doesn't make it made up.
RoosterNo125th Jan

Well, when I was at school science was repeatable proof of how things …Well, when I was at school science was repeatable proof of how things worked... today its all "best guess" dressed up as facts. "Scientists" simply cannot utter the phrases "I may be wrong..." or "we simply don't know"They continually paper over gaping cracks in theories with increasing infeasible bull. Theories... THEORIES = made up stuff.

Science has always worked like that. Newton tried to figure out why stuff falls down, and came up with a theory of gravity. Then experimentalists try to disprove the theory. If they can't, that theory becomes the de facto explanation until a better one comes along.

It's just that the frontiers of science are now getting so far away from everyday experience that the theories they have to come up with seem more and more bizarre. Like the 'many worlds' explanation of quantum mechanics. Is that the way the real world works? I doubt it, but it's a plausible theory that provides predictions - and unless we can show that some of those predictions are false, we have to accept it as a valid theory.
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Thanks just used my £2 credit. I have already read this but be nice to have someone read it to me.
Edited by: "deleted948549" 24th Jan
Cold. Not narrated by Stephen Hawking.



Only kidding, heat added.
They also have
Astrophysics for People in a Hurry by
Neil deGrasse Tyson for £1.99.
Excellent deal.

play.google.com/sto…JTM
Edited by: "polarbaba" 24th Jan
Unreadable, imaginary twaddle....
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RoosterNo115 m ago

Unreadable, imaginary twaddle....


Care to elaborate?
Crazy_Kate713 h, 55 m ago

Care to elaborate?


Well, when I was at school science was repeatable proof of how things worked... today its all "best guess" dressed up as facts.
"Scientists" simply cannot utter the phrases "I may be wrong..." or "we simply don't know"
They continually paper over gaping cracks in theories with increasing infeasible bull.
Theories... THEORIES = made up stuff.

Red shift is my pet hate, we cant explain it so we'll just make up "dark stuff" to explain as to how we must be right...

Discuss...
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RoosterNo14 h, 6 m ago

Well, when I was at school science was repeatable proof of how things …Well, when I was at school science was repeatable proof of how things worked... today its all "best guess" dressed up as facts. "Scientists" simply cannot utter the phrases "I may be wrong..." or "we simply don't know"They continually paper over gaping cracks in theories with increasing infeasible bull. Theories... THEORIES = made up stuff. Red shift is my pet hate, we cant explain it so we'll just make up "dark stuff" to explain as to how we must be right... Discuss...


Seems to work OK for religion not having any proof of any kind and it is theoretical physics after all. I think it is fascinating.
Crazy_Kate712 h, 25 m ago

Seems to work OK for religion not having any proof of any kind and it is …Seems to work OK for religion not having any proof of any kind and it is theoretical physics after all. I think it is fascinating.


Ooo, now THERE'S a live wire
In order to determine an unknown..... one must theorize a theoretical premise or framework for proof of concept.
"by theorize I mean explore to the best of your ability as many possibility's as possible with the idea of entertaining the most plausible for a given point in time"

Or another words ... Heat!
Edited by: "daoverseer" 26th Jan
RoosterNo125th Jan

Well, when I was at school science was repeatable proof of how things …Well, when I was at school science was repeatable proof of how things worked... today its all "best guess" dressed up as facts. "Scientists" simply cannot utter the phrases "I may be wrong..." or "we simply don't know"They continually paper over gaping cracks in theories with increasing infeasible bull. Theories... THEORIES = made up stuff. Red shift is my pet hate, we cant explain it so we'll just make up "dark stuff" to explain as to how we must be right... Discuss...


Lol. Red shift or the Doppler effect is easily explained - it's even taught to 15 year olds. Because you can't grasp it doesn't make it made up.
Pomrick2 h, 45 m ago

Lol. Red shift or the Doppler effect is easily explained - it's even …Lol. Red shift or the Doppler effect is easily explained - it's even taught to 15 year olds. Because you can't grasp it doesn't make it made up.


Perfectly aware of the Doppler effect.... but when applied to the expanding universe, I don't believe it... and the usual "you don't understand" is what's trotted out by pompous folk who can't read properly, or scientists.
RoosterNo16 h, 25 m ago

Perfectly aware of the Doppler effect.... but when applied to the …Perfectly aware of the Doppler effect.... but when applied to the expanding universe, I don't believe it... and the usual "you don't understand" is what's trotted out by pompous folk who can't read properly, or scientists.


So... You don't believe a commonly held theory based on the evidence. But that is somehow other people's fault. Do you just like being contrary? Do you believe the earth is flat too? You're not a creationist too are you??? Were dinosaurs even real???
They say ignorance is bliss, so you must be very happy indeed. Anyway, I've wasted enough time and know when someone is a lost cause. If you think that makes me either pompous or "unable to read properly" then so be it.
Night night.
"wasted enough time..." then goes on to write an essay !
Obviously likes the sound of his keyboard, than applying a little thought...
Expanding universe is a theory not proven fact.. keep watching Horizon, and swallowing their bs.
RoosterNo125th Jan

Well, when I was at school science was repeatable proof of how things …Well, when I was at school science was repeatable proof of how things worked... today its all "best guess" dressed up as facts. "Scientists" simply cannot utter the phrases "I may be wrong..." or "we simply don't know"They continually paper over gaping cracks in theories with increasing infeasible bull. Theories... THEORIES = made up stuff.

Science has always worked like that. Newton tried to figure out why stuff falls down, and came up with a theory of gravity. Then experimentalists try to disprove the theory. If they can't, that theory becomes the de facto explanation until a better one comes along.

It's just that the frontiers of science are now getting so far away from everyday experience that the theories they have to come up with seem more and more bizarre. Like the 'many worlds' explanation of quantum mechanics. Is that the way the real world works? I doubt it, but it's a plausible theory that provides predictions - and unless we can show that some of those predictions are false, we have to accept it as a valid theory.
RoosterNo12nd Feb

"wasted enough time..." then goes on to write an essay !Obviously likes …"wasted enough time..." then goes on to write an essay !Obviously likes the sound of his keyboard, than applying a little thought... Expanding universe is a theory not proven fact.. keep watching Horizon, and swallowing their bs.


I would give up, you are embarrassing yourself.
I'm assuming this will play on the Google Home?
Heat from me either way
RoosterNo124th Jan

Unreadable, imaginary twaddle....



I must admit it is hard going. Read it when I was 18, thirty years ago and didn't understand much of it. I stuck with the book though so while I don't understand the Maths, I now understand the theory.

I wouldn't say it's imaginary twaddle. It's based on observable evidence most notably the redshift of galaxies and the observable background hiss. Both of these are backed up with even more evidence.

I'm not happy with the Big Bang either but it's the best theory we have. It makes a lot more sense than 2 penguins walking from the South Pole to get into a boat which certain book tells us.

I think your either fishing or else a young Earth Creationist, so which is it?
GlentoranMark8 m ago

I think your either fishing or else a young Earth Creationist, so which is …I think your either fishing or else a young Earth Creationist, so which is it?


Deepak Chopra
I'm waiting for the abridged edition
"A very brief history of time".
Edited by: "jazid" 8th Feb
I wouldn't even get on these issues, physicists are still arguing about the standard model!. Higgs boson hasn't been observed either however the LHC is providing the right "smells" and it smells kinda ok so far.
Best to avoid such talk as at this point it's like religion, everyone has a point of view/bias/prejudice/favourite and if we stick to the well established observed facts , we should be fine.
Thought the deal was for Orbital's Wonky album at first. A much better listen.
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This is why I love the UK so much. The discussion going on here would be the opposite in my old country, one person would be defending science while all others would be attacking it.
RoosterNo12nd Feb

Perfectly aware of the Doppler effect.... but when applied to the …Perfectly aware of the Doppler effect.... but when applied to the expanding universe, I don't believe it... and the usual "you don't understand" is what's trotted out by pompous folk who can't read properly, or scientists.


Calls someone "pompous" whilst making the most pompous comment in the thread.
good find OP, got it free with google rewards credit
Edited by: "R37R0" 8th Feb
Picked up the softback copy in the works for a couple of quid. But still a nice find op.
Ps, I knew this post would have an interesting discussion. 😁

As for the book, it's hard going in places and some of it makes the mind boggle, but fascinating still.
GrumpyArab12 h, 41 m ago

This is why I love the UK so much. The discussion going on here would be …This is why I love the UK so much. The discussion going on here would be the opposite in my old country, one person would be defending science while all others would be attacking it.


Didn't think Muslims were against science, I thought it's just generally ignorant people, and they are everywhere ... You'll never have to travel far wherever you are in the world to find an ignorant person.
Thanks Op bought!
polarbaba3 h, 13 m ago

Didn't think Muslims were against science, I thought it's just generally …Didn't think Muslims were against science, I thought it's just generally ignorant people, and they are everywhere ... You'll never have to travel far wherever you are in the world to find an ignorant person.


I think modern Science debunks a lot of the core foundations of religous texts, so I guess it's paradoxical to have strong beliefs in both theism and science .



With regards to this book, is it really worth reading (like an Orwell novel), or is it just a sheep thing?
chuffedfox1 h, 52 m ago

I think modern Science debunks a lot of the core foundations of religous …I think modern Science debunks a lot of the core foundations of religous texts, so I guess it's paradoxical to have strong beliefs in both theism and science .With regards to this book, is it really worth reading (like an Orwell novel), or is it just a sheep thing?



Like I mentioned before if we stick to observed facts we should all be fine.

Everyone can believe in whatever other belief systems they want be it string theory or Buddhism.
Got for 99p, cheers OP!

I do some of the comments, "I don't understand, therefore its twaddle".... nice
chuffedfox8 h, 56 m ago

I think modern Science debunks a lot of the core foundations of religous …I think modern Science debunks a lot of the core foundations of religous texts, so I guess it's paradoxical to have strong beliefs in both theism and science .With regards to this book, is it really worth reading (like an Orwell novel), or is it just a sheep thing?



30+ years later, it's still relevant today. If anything, recent findings back up the Big Bang, not disprove it.

It's meant for the layman but a background in science knowledge helps. I'm not sure if Hawkins makes it clear enough how it all fits together (been ages since I read it.)

I didn't enjoy it first time around but I got my head round the facts eventually. It's worth a punt at £1, I'll buy it but may take me ages to get to as I've several Audible titles (inc 2 astronomy ones) plus I listen to a load of Podcasts.
GlentoranMark10 m ago

30+ years later, it's still relevant today. If anything, recent findings …30+ years later, it's still relevant today. If anything, recent findings back up the Big Bang, not disprove it. It's meant for the layman but a background in science knowledge helps. I'm not sure if Hawkins makes it clear enough how it all fits together (been ages since I read it.) I didn't enjoy it first time around but I got my head round the facts eventually. It's worth a punt at £1, I'll buy it but may take me ages to get to as I've several Audible titles (inc 2 astronomy ones) plus I listen to a load of Podcasts.


I have an Engineering Degree, but have become a bit more interested in general Science in recent years.

Not sure if I'd enjoy it more as a book or as an audiobook.
Cannot find the voucher.
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