A Chinese made Macbook clone with promising specs @ Gearbest - £469.78
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A Chinese made Macbook clone with promising specs @ Gearbest - £469.78

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Found 26th Jan
Martian A8 256GB SSD Notebook

13.3 inch FHD IPS Screen DOS Intel Core i7 7500U 2.7GHz Dual Core 8GB RAM Camera Bluetooth 4.0

DOS?!

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Comes with Order 66 no doubt.

2520mA battery? My phone has a bigger one than that!

Gearbest. Have you seen the reviews? The price is decent for the specs.

Macbooks are made in China but yeah I'm sure this isn't close to that level

NO NAME machine without OS for £469 from Gearbest?!?! What the fool will buy this?

adamskiidu_44

2520mA battery? My phone has a bigger one than that!



You can't compare the energy capacity of batteries based on their charge for batteries of different applications without also knowing the voltage. Laptop batteries are normally higher voltage than phone batteries and so the amount of energy they store will also be greater.

Can't be a real clone unless promoted by blinkered trendy users who refuse to compare hardware specs with other laptops... :-)

adamskiidu_44

2520mA battery? My phone has a bigger one than that!



Except there's voltage to consider, basically a mAh rating is not energy storage.

My phone has a 3500mAh 3.7V battery, so 3.5Ah * 3.7 volts = 12.95 Watt hours, meaning if it's putting out a watt (1 joule of energy per second) it'll last 12.95 hours.

Meanwhile my laptop's battery is only 7560mAh but it's 7.4V, so 7.56Ah * 7.4V = 56Wh (roughly). Over 4 times the capacity of the phone battery despite being only a little over double the mAh rating.

DOS stands for "Disk Operating System".

As per Wikipedia:

A disk operating system (abbreviated DOS) is a computer operating system … A disk operating system (abbreviated DOS) is a computer operating system that can use a disk storage device, such as a floppy disk, hard disk drive, or optical disc. A disk operating system must provide a file system for organizing, reading, and writing files on the storage disk. Strictly speaking, this definition does not apply to current generations operating systems, such as versions of Microsoft Windows in use, while this definition is actually only used for older generations of operating systems.



DOS is a generic computer term and isn't to be confused with MS-DOS, obviously the name of their operating system.

The price is good but don't expect well received support by Gearbest and the possibility of import charges (minimal chance as reported by some users). I'd still pay the extra for an actual branded one like Xiaomi.
Edited by: "M0nk3h" 26th Jan

CampGareth

Except there's voltage to consider, basically a mAh rating is not energy … Except there's voltage to consider, basically a mAh rating is not energy storage.My phone has a 3500mAh 3.7V battery, so 3.5Ah * 3.7 volts = 12.95 Watt hours, meaning if it's putting out a watt (1 joule of energy per second) it'll last 12.95 hours. Meanwhile my laptop's battery is only 7560mAh but it's 7.4V, so 7.56Ah * 7.4V = 56Wh (roughly). Over 4 times the capacity of the phone battery despite being only a little over double the mAh rating.



​Yeah and the laptop probably uses more than 4 times the energy just in powering the screen so this calculation is a bit academic

gazdoubleu

​Yeah and the laptop probably uses more than 4 times the energy just in p … ​Yeah and the laptop probably uses more than 4 times the energy just in powering the screen so this calculation is a bit academic


I think you missed the point CampGareth was making, it was academic... He's trying to show you cannot compare batteries of differing voltage using their capacity in mAh - you need to look compare the energy each stores.

McHotpoon

I think you missed the point CampGareth was making, it was academic... … I think you missed the point CampGareth was making, it was academic... He's trying to show you cannot compare batteries of differing voltage using their capacity in mAh - you need to look compare the energy each stores.



​No I didn't miss it the overriding point as I see it from adamskiidu is that the battery is wholly inadequate regardless of the watt hours, amp hours, whatever.

DOS > Windows 10

Surely the relevant part which adamskiidu_44 missed is the voltage.
Gearbest do actually list it at 14.4V @2520mAh (i.e. 2.52Ah), so that's a 36.288Wh battery. Which isn't very good as the MacBook Air 13" has 54Wh battery. Presumably they are trying to compete with the Air as it has a faster CPU than current Airs but lower res screen than current Pros.

For god's sake, forget the blather about the battery, is this a good deal yes or no......no, end of.

gazdoubleu

​No I didn't miss it the overriding point as I see it from adamskiidu is t … ​No I didn't miss it the overriding point as I see it from adamskiidu is that the battery is wholly inadequate regardless of the watt hours, amp hours, whatever.


His point was his phone has a bigger one, which it does not??? And I'm sure that's what CampGareth was illustrating .... Not disagreeing that that battery may be inadequate for the hardware on offer.

It's a great super smashing fantastic deal...................for those Chinese

Too much money to risk on a product with effectively no warranty and that you could well be charged a lot more for in import tax.

martroy

For god's sake, forget the blather about the battery, is this a good deal … For god's sake, forget the blather about the battery, is this a good deal yes or no......no, end of.




NO DEAL pal!!! This would be worst of the worst purchase if someone goes for it!

Cemsezer did you really buy one of these yourself?

Rimi

NO NAME machine without OS for £469 from Gearbest?!?! What the fool will … NO NAME machine without OS for £469 from Gearbest?!?! What the fool will buy this?



​NAMED BRAND using parts worth about £200 to build laptop and ask to pay £1000 on retail. Both situations are in same level of insanity.

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NO1FAN

Cemsezer did you really buy one of these yourself?


I didn't.
But I don't understand why it went freezing either.

robcal

You can't compare the energy capacity of batteries based on their charge … You can't compare the energy capacity of batteries based on their charge for batteries of different applications without also knowing the voltage. Laptop batteries are normally higher voltage than phone batteries and so the amount of energy they store will also be greater.



​ you don't know what you are talking about.
voltage is irrelevant. Current draw is relevant.
mAh is derived from current and time, regardless of voltage. milliamps per hour.

cemsezer

I didn't.But I don't understand why it went freezing either.



Because there is no real deal here for many reasons

- It is coming from China so delivery time-frame of weeks to months (I've experienced both ends of the scale with gearbest as well as non delivery)
- Warranty is pretty much non existent, you have to send it back to them in China at your expense (you aren't covered by European law), it needs to be tracked which is more expensive again otherwise you risk the item not being received. Then if memory serves from reading their terms you have to pay the return shipping too (again add on the tracking cost)
- You need to add an OS, again not everyone is comfortable installing an operating system despite it being very easy and depending what you want it's another extra cost.
- All the reviews are 5 stars but all of them seem to ignore the issues they raise. The product reading the reviews fully does not seem to match the ratings they have given it.
- The risk of charges if it gets picked out by customs, ok not very likely but if you get stung this £470 laptop starts getting into the price range of laptops that are similar specs with none of these aforementioned down sides.

McHotpoon

His point was his phone has a bigger one, which it does not??? And I'm … His point was his phone has a bigger one, which it does not??? And I'm sure that's what CampGareth was illustrating .... Not disagreeing that that battery may be inadequate for the hardware on offer.


Do you have Aspergers? Can't you read something without a literal translation?

martroy

For god's sake, forget the blather about the battery, is this a good deal … For god's sake, forget the blather about the battery, is this a good deal yes or no......no, end of.


Don't go trying to use common sense and reason and suggest people simply vote hot or cold on a deal when there's a perfectly onerous and irritating argument in progress which will likely end up in tears, armchair warfare and a ban or suspension. There's a point to be made here and it's utterly imperative that someone proves they're right and everyone else is wrong, it's totally necessary to prove a point however trivial, pedantic or annoying it may appear to others.


Edited by: "spannerzone" 26th Jan

I've only had good experience with Gearbest - maybe just lucky.
However, you don't want to risk £469 on this without seeing proper reviews.
Gearbest reviews are pretty much all 4.5 starts irrespective of what the product is or how good it is.
If you've got that much money to waste, you may as well throw even more out and get the real thing.
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