A high spec 4G phone you can drop £91 @ Focalprice-  , 2GB ram 16GB rom 13MP camera
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A high spec 4G phone you can drop £91 @ Focalprice- , 2GB ram 16GB rom 13MP camera

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Found 4th May 2015
For those who are clumsy or want a tough phone without it being extra bulky:
Umi Hammer
it has a strong aluminum frame couple with a double glass screen ( including gorilla glass )
Check out the youtube videos of it smashing walnuts with the screen , hammering nails , being thrown at walls etc . Yet it looks just like most other 5" smart phones.
youtube.com/wat…HhQ

The specs are very good for under £100 even ignoring its durability - way better than Moto G specs :
Quad core 64 bit processor ( scores over 30k on Antutu )
2 GB Ram
16GB Rom
13Mp rear camera
dual sim
4G ( works on all UK 4G bands)
720p IPS screen resolution

Note this is shipped from China , so expect to wait a few weeks for delivery and if you are unlucky you may have to pay customs charges ( though most Chinese sellers declare a low value to avoid this ).

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Lol. Heat just for the description!

From China £91 + tax not worth!!!

Which App Store store do you use with this phone?

nwressell

Which App Store store do you use with this phone?



Google Play/Android

Heat for this phone

jkaczor26

From China £91 + tax not worth!!!



Just ordered one from coolicool. Never paid tax on a phone from them and this is around my 10th. Always choose free post and ask for post NL so it goes through Netherlands and it never gets stopped for tax. Once it reaches Heathrow it gets treated as special delivery. Tracked all the way too.

good phone
hot!!

Looks good, just feel a UK warranty is ideal incase it breaks (you never know with phones)

Few pounds cheaper at £87something via Geekbuying. Suppose it depends which Chinese supplier the buyer prefers. Do DX still offer customs charges insurance at about additional 1% of order cost? If so, DX would be my preferred supplier if they sold this model.
Edit: At time of edit, GB appears to have increased its price to more than FPs original price, and FP appears to have reduced its price to less than GBs original price. Go figure!.
Edited by: "Flipd" 5th May 2015

tempted by this one. fancied the idea of trying some weird Chinese phone for a while. less than a hundred quid may be worth the gamble

6.25% TCB too from Focalprice

bullerbug

tempted by this one. fancied the idea of trying some weird Chinese phone … tempted by this one. fancied the idea of trying some weird Chinese phone for a while. less than a hundred quid may be worth the gamble



Had a few umi phones and they are well made. Lest face it moSt phones are made over there anyhow. It's not so much they are cheap it's our phones are over priced. A lot of the phones are very vanilla android too but mostly on 4.4 which is not a bad thing as I tried lollipop on a moto g and prefer kit kat.

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submerged

Just ordered one from coolicool. Never paid tax on a phone from them and … Just ordered one from coolicool. Never paid tax on a phone from them and this is around my 10th. Always choose free post and ask for post NL so it goes through Netherlands and it never gets stopped for tax. Once it reaches Heathrow it gets treated as special delivery. Tracked all the way too.


How does this work?

This forum looks ad based.

This guy ends up throwing it against a wall to try and break it - youtube.com/wat…uyc

SaintofSouth

This forum looks ad based.



I think that's the general idea SaintofSouth! ~scratches head~

Good review here - interesting that in the AnTuTu benchmark test it comes out slightly slower than an LG G3.

youtube.com/wat…r2A

The EFox shop website and the Coolicool website appear identical except that when you alter the prices for Euros on each you get charged different prices - anyone know anything about this?

This is going to be hot.

submerged

Never paid tax on a phone from them and this is around my 10th. .



That doesn't sound promising

10th

I have the Umi Zero, the companies flagship phone and the last one they released before this.

If this phone is anything like the Zero, I'd say avoid it.

The Zero has a number of big issues that mean it's unusable as an everyday phone:

- Really poor battery life: 1 hour max of web browsing before it's fully drained
- Incorrect battery readings: the phone will normally shut down once it gets to about 30% remaining
- Battery swells: If you use the charger that's provided with the phone, the battery swells and forces the back of the phone off (shattering the glass in the process). Even using a 1a charger (on Umi's recommendation, mine has still swollen slightly but fortunately it's only raised the back a little bit
- Random reboots: it'll reboot at least once a day, some people report up to 10 reboots
- Poor WiFi: It'll drop out every minute or so for a couple of seconds
- Poor reception: trying to browse the web on mobile data is often impossible
- Heat issues: It gets really, really hot, especially when not on WiFi
- MAC issue: the phone keeps randomly assigning itself a new MAC address, this causes all sorts of issues

And that's just off the top of my head.

It's a shame because almost all of those issues are software problems. They've released at least 10 software updates in the 6 months the phone has been out and they still haven't fixed any of them. The phone itself is beautiful: really thin, fantastic screen, glass back etc.... But until Umi can sort out their problems, I wouldn't recommend them to anyone.

There was also a debacle where they promised everyone a Lollipop ROM for ages and when they finally released it, it turned out to be a heavily themed KitKat ROM that had been hacked to say it was v5.0 in the about software screen. They finally admitted it wasn't a real Lollipop ROM a few days later when a few people exposed them.

Edited by: "tappy" 6th May 2015

qwerta369

CommentHow does this work?



Exactly as I say. Mine has been shipped and if via post NL never gets taxed. Must be because it's coming from Netherlands so no checks but it works for sure.

tappy

I have the Umi Zero, the companies flagship phone and the last one they … I have the Umi Zero, the companies flagship phone and the last one they released before this.If this phone is anything like the Zero, I'd say avoid it.The Zero has a number of big issues that mean it's unusable as an everyday phone:- Really poor battery life: 1 hour max of web browsing before it's fully drained- Incorrect battery readings: the phone will normally shut down once it gets to about 30% remaining- Battery swells: If you use the charger that's provided with the phone, the battery swells and forces the back of the phone off (shattering the glass in the process). Even using a 1a charger (on Umi's recommendation, mine has still swollen slightly but fortunately it's only raised the back a little bit- Random reboots: it'll reboot at least once a day, some people report up to 10 reboots- Poor WiFi: It'll drop out every minute or so for a couple of seconds- Poor reception: trying to browse the web on mobile data is often impossible- Heat issues: It gets really, really hot, especially when not on WiFi- MAC issue: the phone keeps randomly assigning itself a new MAC address, this causes all sorts of issuesAnd that's just off the top of my head.It's a shame because almost all of those issues are software problems. They've released at least 10 software updates in the 6 months the phone has been out and they still haven't fixed any of them. The phone itself is beautiful: really thin, fantastic screen, glass back etc.... But until Umi can sort out their problems, I wouldn't recommend them to anyone.There was also a debacle where they promised everyone a Lollipop ROM for ages and when they finally released it, it turned out to be a heavily themed KitKat ROM that had been hacked to say it was v5.0 in the about software screen. They finally admitted it wasn't a real Lollipop ROM a few days later when a few people exposed them.



Sounds like my old iPhone, heat added lol

I need something like this. I'm always dropping my phone

Just got this message when k followed the link

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Edited by: "speedy2014" 6th May 2015

can anyone recommend where to buy a genuine lenovo lemo phone?

mittromney

can anyone recommend where to buy a genuine lenovo lemo phone?


I'm also looking at the Lenovo K3 note, looks superb for the price!

alonso

I'm also looking at the Lenovo K3 note, looks superb for the price!



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tawse57

The EFox shop website and the Coolicool website appear identical except … The EFox shop website and the Coolicool website appear identical except that when you alter the prices for Euros on each you get charged different prices - anyone know anything about this?



Most Chinese seller price use US$ and this is what they bill you in ( then paypal does the currency conversion at todays exchange rate) . If you select to show a different currency on the website it won't be exactly correct as they rarely use the true current paypal exchange rate.. So always compare the US$ price to find the cheapest supplier.

On 1949deal the price was $126.99 - they said that it was £79.82 in UK sterling ( when i selected to show prices in pounds ). When i bought it actually was £86.56 when paypal converted the US$126.99 into pounds. So their exchange rate was way out !

Need a new hammer. Hot.

alonso

I'm also looking at the Lenovo K3 note, looks superb for the price!



Beware of the 4G bands on that as it is primarily for the Chinese market. I'm looking at the Lenovo A7000 for my son, but it's currently only available in India, though there are a couple of Indian ebay sellers offering at about £110 + £9 shipping (down from a previous price of £160!).
Also looking at the Elephone P7000 which will be on sale shortly; there are flash sales going on which will bring it to about £110. Alternatively, Simply Electronics in the UK are selling it at £154 which is cheaper than the regular price through Chinese based sellers!

Website appears to be offline -

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Thanks for your support.

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tappy

There was also a debacle where they promised everyone a Lollipop ROM for … There was also a debacle where they promised everyone a Lollipop ROM for ages and when they finally released it, it turned out to be a heavily themed KitKat ROM that had been hacked to say it was v5.0 in the about software screen. They finally admitted it wasn't a real Lollipop ROM a few days later when a few people exposed them.


That is just shocking - how can you trust a company that lies so blatantly?

Unfortunately software is usually the sticking point with Android. There are just way too many bugs in standard Android (ask some Nexus users), and it takes a lot of time and effort to make it usable.

MrPuddington

That is just shocking - how can you trust a company that lies so … That is just shocking - how can you trust a company that lies so blatantly?Unfortunately software is usually the sticking point with Android. There are just way too many bugs in standard Android (ask some Nexus users), and it takes a lot of time and effort to make it usable.



5.1.1. is just about getting it right now with Lollipop. I wouldn't bother with Lollipop unless you have at least that version which is the latest.

I don't think 16GB 'ROM' is true.....

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Drummerboy

I don't think 16GB 'ROM' is true.....


Why ?
About 12GB free for the user is about right for an Android phone with 16GB storage ( and it has it as one full partition unlike a lot of Chinese phones ). This is what the reviews show .
Plus it has a microSD slot

MrPuddington

That is just shocking - how can you trust a company that lies so … That is just shocking - how can you trust a company that lies so blatantly?Unfortunately software is usually the sticking point with Android. There are just way too many bugs in standard Android (ask some Nexus users), and it takes a lot of time and effort to make it usable.



Android isn't the problem here. The problem is the layer that interfaces between hardware and Android (Kernel) is very poorly written. I just don't think Umi know what they're doing or how to fix the problems. There's been several updates but they've constantly failed to fix the problem.

The other problem is they've clearly used a very cheap and crappy battery. It's a baffling decision considering the phone uses a genuine Samsung screen (which is beautiful!) and a very good Sony camera. They should have just added a few extra $'s to the price and made the phone slightly fatter so they could use a proven battery.

At least on the Hammer you can replace the battery. That's a good start but I just wouldn't trust Umi to sort out any issues with the phone.

submerged

Exactly as I say. Mine has been shipped and if via post NL never gets … Exactly as I say. Mine has been shipped and if via post NL never gets taxed. Must be because it's coming from Netherlands so no checks but it works for sure.


right, but I think the confusion is if you're having it delivered to the UK how do you have it sent through NL first?

Just to add to comments re tax. Have never paid tax on phones etc that I have had from China. Found my Leagoo Lead 1 absolutely fine. Most things are made in China including many European branded phones.
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