ACER Aspire V Nitro (VN7-591G) 15.6" - 12GB, i5, SSD +1TB, Geforce 860m Laptop - Black Edition-  PCWORLD - £649.97
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ACER Aspire V Nitro (VN7-591G) 15.6" - 12GB, i5, SSD +1TB, Geforce 860m Laptop - Black Edition- PCWORLD - £649.97

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Found 28th Jul 2015
Branded gaming laptop for £649.97. I paid £739.95 for this on Sunday and it was an OK deal. Got a price match to this and it's a steal.

Windows 8.1 (free 10 upgrade)

Intel® Core™ i5-4210H Processor, dual core 4 threads, not an i7, but perfect for gaming

RAM 12 GB (8gb + 4gb)....odd config but plentiful

NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 860M (near enough identical to the 960m, with intel HD4600 for 2d)

15.6 matt 1080p IPS panel, inky blacks on this!

Hard drive: 1 TB & 60 GB SSD, boots like lightning as it's an m.2 SSD.....not massive but fine for windows and everything else. 1TB for storage

300mbps wifi, gives me 24.5 mb/s copying from my server.

Backlit keyboard, nice, in red and responsive.

4 speaker with Dolby. Now this surprised me. excellent sound for a lappy

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Nice find, just so you know, most i7 laptop processors are dual core/dual thread anyways Really nice spec for £650

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slayermatt

Nice find, just so you know, most i7 laptop processors are dual core/dual … Nice find, just so you know, most i7 laptop processors are dual core/dual thread anyways Really nice spec for £650



Cheers for the heads up on the i7, makes sense as on cpuboss, they seemed very similar.
I spent ages speccing up a lappy or looking for bargins. I originally had the following must-haves; i7, 860m(minimum) SSD+HD (not hybrid), and nothing ever came this close by a few hundred quid.

I already have the geforce clocked using msi afterburner. an extra 135mhz on the core and 350mhz on the memory. Crysis 3 is 60fps in 1080p on high which is impressive. Doesn't sound like a leaf blower either!

bozzy

Cheers for the heads up on the i7, makes sense as on cpuboss, they seemed … Cheers for the heads up on the i7, makes sense as on cpuboss, they seemed very similar.I spent ages speccing up a lappy or looking for bargins. I originally had the following must-haves; i7, 860m(minimum) SSD+HD (not hybrid), and nothing ever came this close by a few hundred quid.I already have the geforce clocked using msi afterburner. an extra 135mhz on the core and 350mhz on the memory. Crysis 3 is 60fps in 1080p on high which is impressive. Doesn't sound like a leaf blower either!



The gpu really clocks that high? According to this site notebookcheck.net/NVI…tml at ultra settings 1080 the gpu unclocked should only get 18fps.

is this an in store offer?

How does this laptop compare to this?
Is there a big difference?

- Windows 8.1
Intel® Core™ i7 4510U processor
16Gb RAM
1Tb Hybrid Hard Drive + 8Gb SSD
Dedicated Graphics: 4GB NVIDIA GeForce 840M
DVD-RW drive, 720p Webcam
Bluetooth™ 4.0 Wi-Fi
1x USB 3.0, 2x USB 2.0, HDMI, 2-in-1 (SD / MMC) card reader
W: 384mm x H:25.0 mm x D: 265mm, Weight: 2.5kg

Edited by: "JetFlash" 28th Jul 2015

not a bad piece of kit for the price

JetFlash

How does this laptop compare to this?Is there a big difference?- Windows … How does this laptop compare to this?Is there a big difference?- Windows 8.1Intel® Core™ i7 4510U processor16Gb RAM1Tb Hybrid Hard Drive + 8Gb SSDDedicated Graphics: 4GB NVIDIA GeForce 840MDVD-RW drive, 720p WebcamBluetooth™ 4.0 Wi-Fi1x USB 3.0, 2x USB 2.0, HDMI, 2-in-1 (SD / MMC) card readerW: 384mm x H:25.0 mm x D: 265mm, Weight: 2.5kg



i5-4210H > i7-4510U in everything other than power consumption.

860m > 840m no contest here. 840m for Sim city and Football Manager. 860m for GTA.

The i7 laptop has more RAM but you won't use this for gaming or much else. So basically this laptop is much better for gaming.

bozzy

Cheers for the heads up on the i7, makes sense as on cpuboss, they seemed … Cheers for the heads up on the i7, makes sense as on cpuboss, they seemed very similar.I spent ages speccing up a lappy or looking for bargins. I originally had the following must-haves; i7, 860m(minimum) SSD+HD (not hybrid), and nothing ever came this close by a few hundred quid.I already have the geforce clocked using msi afterburner. an extra 135mhz on the core and 350mhz on the memory. Crysis 3 is 60fps in 1080p on high which is impressive. Doesn't sound like a leaf blower either!


Yeah a friend has a gt 740m/dual core i7 dell model of some kind and despite having a 1080p screen it chugs along with most things at a reasonable quality. I think the x60m's are the sweet spot really - anything higher and the laptops tend to get bulky. Be tempted at one of these myself if i could stomach blowing £600+ on a laptop X)

hardstylemw

i5-4210H i7-4510U in everything other than power consumption.860m 840m … i5-4210H > i7-4510U in everything other than power consumption.860m > 840m no contest here. 840m for Sim city and Football Manager. 860m for GTA. The i7 laptop has more RAM but you won't use this for gaming or much else. So basically this laptop is much better for gaming.



That's what I was thinking. What about for photo/videos editing, would it still be better than the 16gb one? Do you think the 16gb one can handle editing at all?
Edited by: "JetFlash" 28th Jul 2015

hardstylemw

i5-4210H i7-4510U in everything other than power consumption.860m 840m … i5-4210H > i7-4510U in everything other than power consumption.860m > 840m no contest here. 840m for Sim city and Football Manager. 860m for GTA. The i7 laptop has more RAM but you won't use this for gaming or much else. So basically this laptop is much better for gaming.


The U variant really kills performance, those laptops aren't so much aimed at gamers as they are just daily drivers with the option to play low end games

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sodz8

The gpu really clocks that high? According to this site … The gpu really clocks that high? According to this site http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-860M.107794.0.html at ultra settings 1080 the gpu unclocked should only get 18fps.



Ultra kills my decent desktop at 1080p with a devils canyon 4690K and a 660ti OC. Crysis 3 on high, no blur and FSAA is hovering around 60fps, even in the rain at the start. Ultra is a joke when you justify the increase in visual quality vs the performance impact and should only be considered for bragging rights as it needs way more than 2gb vram to run....(980's etc)

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gavinmole

is this an in store offer?


Online and in-store.

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slayermatt

The U variant really kills performance, those laptops aren't so much … The U variant really kills performance, those laptops aren't so much aimed at gamers as they are just daily drivers with the option to play low end games


Agreed.

Bottlenecking is always round the GPU rather than the CPU, hence why I went for the 860 at this low price point. This i5 is a 2.9ghz (3.5 turbo) chip with slightly less cache than an i7's (it virtualy is an i7), but with hyper threading up to 4 streams, it easily holds it's own and is only going to slow up a bit in CPU intensive games such as Guild Wars 2.

got one of these reserved for pick up later, but wondering if this is better than the Lenovo one posted the other day? - hotukdeals.com/dea…974

Not planing on doing any gaming, just some photoshop editting, office work, browsing etc. Wondering which would be better suited for photoshop use...any ideas?

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MrClemente

got one of these reserved for pick up later, but wondering if this is … got one of these reserved for pick up later, but wondering if this is better than the Lenovo one posted the other day? - http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/lenovo-flex-2-dual-mode-laptop-intel-core-i7-16gb-ram-256gb-ssd-15-6-touch-screen-2250974Not planing on doing any gaming, just some photoshop editting, office work, browsing etc. Wondering which would be better suited for photoshop use...any ideas?



Depends on what factors you consider a priority....

The 14 inch model states its an IPS panel, and the 15 doesn't, so it may be a standard TN panel and not as good for colour replication / contrast and black levels as the Acer

The Core i7-4510U is about on a par...

16GB vs the 12GB on the Acer? You probably would never notice unless it's massive RAW images you are editing.

SSD is nice and big + quick, but there is no further storage for data, and 256GB will be eaten up quite quick.

Geforce 860 may be overkill, but the 640 CUDA cores will do the grunt work of the photo editing (and you can play a few games if you fancy it!

Touchscreen, not to my liking, but you may want / need it. The Acer doesn't have this.

Flexibility (folding)....up to you....just don't try bending the Acer that far if you get it!!!

Edited by: "bozzy" 29th Jul 2015

bozzy

Depends on what factors you consider a priority....The 14 inch model … Depends on what factors you consider a priority....The 14 inch model states its an IPS panel, and the 15 doesn't, so it may be a standard TN panel and not as good for colour replication / contrast and black levels as the AcerThe Core i7-4510U is about on a par...16GB vs the 12GB on the Acer? You probably would never notice unless it's massive RAW images you are editing.SSD is nice and big + quick, but there is no further storage for data, and 256GB will be eaten up quite quick.Geforce 860 may be overkill, but the 640 CUDA cores will do the grunt work of the photo editing (and you can play a few games if you fancy it!Touchscreen, not to my liking, but you may want / need it. The Acer doesn't have this.Flexibility (folding)....up to you....just don't try bending the Acer that far if you get it!!!




Thanks bozzy. Its really meant to be a desktop replacement, so flexibility, touch and power consumption arent a concern. Screen quality isnt a deal breaker as its nearly always going to be pluged into a monitor (though it would be nice to have a good enough screen for the occasional mobile use).

Was really the whole which is more powerful & quicker for heavy PS use. Editting large raw images would be about as intensive a workload as it gets for me.

With the processors both being fairly equal (i5-4210H ~ i7-4510U ), would the greater ram (16>12) and 100% SSD be more useful than just having the better GPU (860M > 840M)?

Mr Clemente you are in the same position as me that's why I posted the Flex originally - I'm pretty sure it is IPS too. I was wondering exactly the same as you re this new posting tho...an present I'm still erring on the Flex but any other comments or better deals would be welcome

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MrClemente

Thanks bozzy. Its really meant to be a desktop replacement, so … Thanks bozzy. Its really meant to be a desktop replacement, so flexibility, touch and power consumption arent a concern. Screen quality isnt a deal breaker as its nearly always going to be pluged into a monitor (though it would be nice to have a good enough screen for the occasional mobile use).Was really the whole which is more powerful & quicker for heavy PS use. Editting large raw images would be about as intensive a workload as it gets for me.With the processors both being fairly equal (i5-4210H ~ i7-4510U ), would the greater ram (16>12) and 100% SSD be more useful than just having the better GPU (860M > 840M)?



I would be amazed if you could ever tell the difference on the RAM, even editing RAW images, but I would have thought the 860m working in parallel with the i5 would butcher the slight better i7 in photoshop with all those CUDA cores.

The SSD's are both as quick as each other, so for editing you wouldn't notice much difference as long as the files you are working on are on 'C:' rather than the HDD.

Personally I would plum for the Acer as more futurproof with the SSD and the extra storage via good old fashioned platters (both of which could be upgraded). That said, the Lenovo might be able to take another drive if you can get a caddy and replace the DVD.

Here's how the processors stack up...
cpuboss.com/cpu…10H

V Helpful thanks :-)


rraymondo

Mr Clemente you are in the same position as me that's why I posted the … Mr Clemente you are in the same position as me that's why I posted the Flex originally - I'm pretty sure it is IPS too. I was wondering exactly the same as you re this new posting tho...an present I'm still erring on the Flex but any other comments or better deals would be welcome



Been bouncing back and forth between them, but after looking at CPUboss I am now starting to lean more towards the acer. Howerver, the reviews of this series of laptops is luke warm - trackpad being a major concern.

If I could get a small form kickass desktop that would also do the job. But to get the same or better spec, pre built is exspensive hard to find off the shelf. Overclockers do some nice small form stuff but their pricing is more than Im willing to pay

great spec for the price. should handle any game with ease.

Good price, but warmish to hot, I'd say, rather than hot.

For the 860m version of the Nitro V, its a good price as they've been selling at around £719 or thereabouts.

However, they've upgraded the specs of that model of the Nitro V and the revised model comes with the GTX 960m (about 10% faster) and a better IPS panel (the previous version was a bit dim and lacking a bit in terms of both contrast and brightness).

New version here (£719): saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.…tml

good find, great deal. GOOD GAMING LAPTOP

MrClemente

Been bouncing back and forth between them, but after looking at CPUboss I … Been bouncing back and forth between them, but after looking at CPUboss I am now starting to lean more towards the acer. Howerver, the reviews of this series of laptops is luke warm - trackpad being a major concern.If I could get a small form kickass desktop that would also do the job. But to get the same or better spec, pre built is exspensive hard to find off the shelf. Overclockers do some nice small form stuff but their pricing is more than Im willing to pay


Exactly in the same position as you. Need a small factor desktop with similar specs as I would be connecting it to a display. If you find something then please let me know

MrClemente

got one of these reserved for pick up later, but wondering if this is … got one of these reserved for pick up later, but wondering if this is better than the Lenovo one posted the other day? - http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/lenovo-flex-2-dual-mode-laptop-intel-core-i7-16gb-ram-256gb-ssd-15-6-touch-screen-2250974Not planing on doing any gaming, just some photoshop editting, office work, browsing etc. Wondering which would be better suited for photoshop use...any ideas?



I just checked, that one from John Lewis has £50 Cashback from Lenovo too.

What games will this laptop be able to run?

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Picard123

Good price, but warmish to hot, I'd say, rather than hot. For the 860m … Good price, but warmish to hot, I'd say, rather than hot. For the 860m version of the Nitro V, its a good price as they've been selling at around £719 or thereabouts.However, they've upgraded the specs of that model of the Nitro V and the revised model comes with the GTX 960m (about 10% faster) and a better IPS panel (the previous version was a bit dim and lacking a bit in terms of both contrast and brightness).New version here (£719): http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.MUVEK.001-Acer-Aspire-V-Nitro-VN7-591G_1742248.html



Cant argue with that, though there is no SSD and 4gb less RAM for 70 quid more (tow of my must have'). The screens fine though, you can go into the control panel and boost the gamma a bit if required.

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joemcc

What games will this laptop be able to run?



Anything current and at high settings. In a years or two you may have to lower the settings a bit, but that's not that bad. Future-proof for a while at least.

Nice price for a very capable laptop. I recently picked up the i7 version with the 960m and I've played arma, ark and some other recent games on high settings at around 60fps.

Only bad side I will mention is it get slightly hot right in the middle just below the screen.

if you watch a review most will mention this, apart from that it's great bang for your buck.

..and you're gaming on a 15" screen? oO

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Elevation

..and you're gaming on a 15" screen? oO



Aye.....

17 inch is too big on the lap, sweet spot for me is 15. I struggled with my mates Aorus 13 inch with a 3K screen and an 870m. That was just too small with a DPI too high to read things properly.

The other plus side is the high DPI means anti-aliasing is such a necessity.

bozzy

Aye.....17 inch is too big on the lap, sweet spot for me is 15. I … Aye.....17 inch is too big on the lap, sweet spot for me is 15. I struggled with my mates Aorus 13 inch with a 3K screen and an 870m. That was just too small with a DPI too high to read things properly.The other plus side is the high DPI means anti-aliasing is such a necessity.



Sweet spot for me is a 27" monitor

Great price for an 860m

went to a local store to have a play with the Acer, and I have to say that I'm pretty put off by it the screen is ok, but not particualry bright and not the best contrast either. Track pad is every bit as bad as some of the reviews mention. Passable for occasional use but you'll want to be using a mouse as much as possible. Build quality was also rather lackluster. It feels way cheaper than its priced. All things considered its only worth imo about the price its now listed at.

Also had a look at the lenovo flex 2 (albeit a slightly lesser spec than the one posted here). And whille it does feel very plastic,it feels nicer than the acer (at least to me). Screen was slightly brighter, with better contast - the glossy screen just felt nicer to look at than the matt finish on the acer. Trackpad was better too, although I wouldnt want to use it for any long periods of time either.

So the acer is out for me, which leaves the lenovo, and what to do :P... back to square one lol

Tha
t's bizarre MrClemente I also did the same during this pm and agree with you....I'm still unsure what to do...trouble is I think what we want doesn't really exist for the £wonga!

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MrClemente

went to a local store to have a play with the Acer, and I have to say … went to a local store to have a play with the Acer, and I have to say that I'm pretty put off by it the screen is ok, but not particualry bright and not the best contrast either. Track pad is every bit as bad as some of the reviews mention. Passable for occasional use but you'll want to be using a mouse as much as possible. Build quality was also rather lackluster. It feels way cheaper than its priced. All things considered its only worth imo about the price its now listed at.Also had a look at the lenovo flex 2 (albeit a slightly lesser spec than the one posted here). And whille it does feel very plastic,it feels nicer than the acer (at least to me). Screen was slightly brighter, with better contast - the glossy screen just felt nicer to look at than the matt finish on the acer. Trackpad was better too, although I wouldnt want to use it for any long periods of time either. So the acer is out for me, which leaves the lenovo, and what to do :P... back to square one lol



I wouldn't worry so much about the darker screen. If you go into the intel HD properties in the tray, you can nugde up the gamma and brightness just a touch and it makes a massive difference.

As for the track-pad, I hate them. I use a Logitech MX Anywhere (on here half price if you search) Never found one I like!

I have come from a really old Toshiba, and this feels so much better put together, I suppose it's what you are used to.

rraymondo

That's bizarre MrClemente I also did the same during this pm and agree … That's bizarre MrClemente I also did the same during this pm and agree with you....I'm still unsure what to do...trouble is I think what we want doesn't really exist for the £wonga!



Well im glad I did make the effort to have a play with both as was litrally about to plug the trigger on the Acer :O
I mean both are good machines and I dare say I'd be happy using either - but getting the absolute best bang for the buck is part and past of frequenting this site :P I take your point though, at this price point, just how much better does it get... If I had to get one right now this minute, it would be the lenovo. Havent found anything else that I think is better for the price. However, with win 10 hitting now im guessing partners are going to be bringing out all sorts of new hardware which will further push the price down on the old stuff. Plus with intel's skylake coming fairly soon, im pretty sure the prices are going to continue to tumble pretty quickly.

Ideally id like somthing like this johnlewis.com/hp-…329 but with more ram, SSD, better processor etc. Perfect formfactor/size, just lacking in grunt
Edited by: "MrClemente" 29th Jul 2015

JetFlash

That's what I was thinking. What about for photo/videos editing, would it … That's what I was thinking. What about for photo/videos editing, would it still be better than the 16gb one? Do you think the 16gb one can handle editing at all?


The 16 GB model may actually be better for video editing as the RAM will help with multi tasking. The processors are both capable.

Would I be able to get an extra 15% off with the UNiDAYS, currys pcworld student discount?
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